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magic8ball

« on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 17:24:46 »

What the hell are the Liverpool fans singing?

Something to do with the first 6 minutes of the game?
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 17:27:20 »

Think it was 'justice for the 96' in relation to the 96 people who died at Hillsborough.
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magic8ball

« Reply #2 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 17:32:29 »

Ahhh.

Was wondering what Liverpool fans possibly had to complain about!
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 17:36:05 »

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In April 1989, the single biggest controversy during MacKenzie's reign occurred, later described in a Sun editorial in 2004 as "the most terrible mistake in our history", during the aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster, a deadly crush which occurred during an F.A. Cup semi-final at Hillsborough football stadium in Sheffield which claimed the lives of 96 Liverpool fans. The Sun printed the front-page headline "The Truth", with three sub-headings, "Some Fans Picked Pockets of Victims", "Some Fans Urinated on the Brave Cops" and "Some Fans Beat Up P.C. Giving Kiss Of Life". The accompanying article claimed that ticketless and drunken Liverpool F.C. fans were responsible for the disaster, having supposedly tried to fight their way into the stadium by rushing the turnstiles and attacking policemen outside the ground. Further specific allegations were made that during the disaster itself Liverpool fans inside the stadium had stolen wallets and other items from the dead, had urinated over policemen and the bodies of dead fans, that they had beaten policemen attempting to save the lives of other fans and had sexually abused the body of a dead girl after shouting "throw her up and we'll fuck her" to policemen moving her body. The sources for these allegations were stated to be anonymous police officers and a Conservative MP from Sheffield who wasn't actually present at the game. The article was accompanied by graphic photographs showing Liverpool fans, including young children, choking and suffocating as they were being crushed against the perimeter fences surrounding the terraces - this was widely condemned as severely inappropriate[14].

The coverage and the allegations caused intense uproar on Merseyside (where The Sun was boycotted, with public burnings of the paper organised and many newsagents refusing to stock it at all) and widespread criticism and condemnation from many commentators. The Press Council described the allegations unequivocally as "lies". The official government enquiry into the disaster dismissed the allegation that drunken Liverpool fans had been responsible for the disaster and concluded that inadequate crowd control and errors by the police had been the cause of the disaster. Various investigations conclusively disproved most if not all of The Sun's allegations - when clothing from each of the victims was recovered, none had any trace of urine other than those who had been found to have wet themselves during the crush (this also not surprisingly occurred with some fans who survived having been pulled from the terraces); all wallets, items of jewellery and significant personal possessions of each of the victims was quickly accounted for (thus disproving the allegation of pick-pocketing); no female victim was found to have been sexually abused; and while it has been established that a small number of Liverpool supporters verbally abused policemen who they apparently held responsible for the disaster, no policeman has ever come forward to claim that he was physically attacked by a fan. Some weeks after the disaster, Joan Traynor, who lost two sons in the disaster, was asked by ITN for permission to film the funeral of her sons. Traynor refused and publicly requested that the media respect her family's privacy with regard to the funeral. ITN and all other British media outlets did indeed respect Mrs Traynor's wishes with the exception of The Sun. Kelvin MacKenzie sent photographers to the funeral who clambered over a wall at the cemetery and took numerous photographs of the family laying the two boys to rest before eventually being chased away. The following day photographs of the family at the funeral appeared on the front page of The Sun. Mrs Traynor was said to be deeply upset about the intrusion at the funeral and the subsequent publication of photographs of her and her family on the front page of the same paper which had printing the aforementioned allegations about the disaster itself[15].

Prior to the publication of The Sun's initial article, a number of local newspapers in Yorkshire published very similar allegations (such as The Sheffield Star and The Yorkshire Post)[8]. It has since emerged that many British national newspaper editors were offered the same story from the same sources the day before The Sun article was published (including Andrew Neil at Murdoch's The Times) but while many national newspapers printed allegations about Liverpool fans being responsible for the disaster, only MacKenzie and his counterpart at The Daily Star were prepared to print the more outlandish allegations about theft and abuse of dead bodies, with many editors feeling that the claims sounded dubious. Furthermore, the other national papers which printed coverage claiming Liverpool fans to be responsible for the disaster, including The Daily Star, apologised the day after publication, whereas The Sun did not. In their book about the history of the Sun, Peter Chippindale and Chris Horrie wrote: "As MacKenzie's layout was seen by more and more people, a collective shudder ran through the office [but] MacKenzie's dominance was so total there was nobody left in the organisation who could rein him in except Murdoch. [Everyone] seemed paralysed, "looking like rabbits in the headlights", as one hack described them. The error staring them in the face was too glaring. It obviously wasn't a silly mistake; nor was it a simple oversight. Nobody really had any comment on it, they just took one look and went away shaking their heads in wonder at the enormity of it. It was a classic smear."[16] Murdoch for his part ordered MacKenzie to appear on BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend in the aftermath of the controversy to apologise. MacKenzie was quoted on the programme as saying: "It was my decision and my decision alone to do that front page in that way and I made a rather serious error". In 1993 he told a House of Commons National Heritage Select Committee that: "I regret Hillsborough. It was a fundamental mistake. The mistake was I believed what an MP said. It was a Tory MP. If he had not said it and the chief superintendent (David Duckenfield) had not agreed with it, we would not have gone with it." In 1996, MacKenzie again discussed the matter on Radio 4 but this time claimed: "The Sun did not accuse anybody of anything. We were the vehicle for others."

Sales of The Sun on Merseyside have never recovered, costing News International several million pounds a year,[17] despite a belated full page apology by the newspaper in 2004.

MacKenzie sensationally reignited the controversy himself in 2006 when he was quoted as claiming that The Sun's allegations about Liverpool fans were actually true after all and that he had only apologised because he was forced to by Rupert Murdoch (see below).
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Scot Munroe

« Reply #4 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 18:00:07 »

Good game. Great goal by Rosicky. I think they were singing " 6 minutes for the 96"
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Amir

« Reply #5 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 18:13:53 »

No, it was definately "justice for the 96".

I remember well turning the tv over and wondering what the hell was going on, and Forest(?) fans booing because they thought it was fighting.  A catalogue of errors and circumstance led to the tragedy.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 18:56:04 »

Come on you Scouse twats I had a £5 at 29/4 at half time for 2-2
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 19:15:13 »

useless cunts Crying
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:28:51 »

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
useless cunts Crying


 Soapy Tit Wank

I hope Spurs beat those Welsh Cunts tomorrow.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:30:36 »

Sam

Did you just have an "Ultra" moment ?
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:31:12 »

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Sam

Did you just have an "Ultra" moment ?


Yep  Sad
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:32:07 »

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What the hell are the Liverpool fans singing?

Something to do with the first 6 minutes of the game?


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« Reply #12 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:32:30 »



How did the house hunting go ?

are you going to be my new neighbour ??     Beers  Beers
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:36:02 »

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How did the house hunting go ?

are you going to be my new neighbour ??     Beers  Beers


Went well, but not in Stratton. Had an offer accepted on a place in Westlea.

Just need to find a bloody mortgage and conveyancer now, oh joy  :|
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, January 6, 2007, 21:41:15 »

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How did the house hunting go ?

are you going to be my new neighbour ??     Beers  Beers


Went well, but not in Stratton. Had an offer accepted on a place in Westlea.

Just need to find a bloody mortgage and conveyancer now, oh joy  :|


Speak to Macca and Bushey mate.

They will sort you out !!   Beers
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