Animal Libertation Movement - Channel 4

[Foggy]

well said foggy.  That is the only thing I have ever agreed with you on!!

sod babies ron dodgers - who wants those???

Yeahhh ,that has made my day  

[Ben Wah Balls]

Thinking of it ethically using the theory of utilitarianism if animal testing saves more peoples live than animals are tested on then it must be good for it will cause the greatest happiness, even if you consider an animals life as important as a humans. Ergo, animal testing for medical reasons is ethically right.

Not for cosmetic reasons though. Personally I only thing medicines should be tested on amimals, not cosmetics but if animal testing helps find drugs that save lives then it is worth doing as well as testing on humans.

[McLovin]

How about testing cosmetics on animals that are already mutated through medical testing?

[ron dodgers]

sod babies ron dodgers - who wants those???

yeah - see what you mean - don't use much eyeliner myself - I suppose you can get it tatooed on.

[Piemonte]

How about testing cosmetics on animals that are already mutated through medical testing?

   good plan.

I want to buy some specifically "tested on animals" hairgel

[STFCBird]

hair gel is actually monkey jizz

[Piemonte]

cool, I'll start eating it too then

[adje]

I think most of them just like to cause mischief. Nothing to do with the animals really, just a good excuse.

What a twat thing to say.

The same was said about the picket lines during the minors strike.

Utter utter wank.

When did kids go on strike Yeovil?

[flammableBen]

It only takes a few idiots to lead a legitamate group with strong beliefs to extreme acts. It's unfair to then paint all those people with the same nasty brush.

For example the nazi's. Not everybody who hates jews is that bad.

[sonic youth]

as ben says, people seem to automatically assume that anyone who believes in animals rights is an extremist terrorist wankercuntscrote. which isn't true.

i'm torn on the subject, i abhor animal cruelty and i don't like the thought of animal testing - but is it a neccessity? if i was in a position where a member of my family or a friend was seriously ill and opposition to animal testing prevented them from possibly making a recovery, then what choice do you have? totally hypothetical i know, but still.

there's a big furore about the animal research laboratories being built in oxford at the minute, i was going to go along to a protest but i'd probably end up wanting to twat the activists and kneecap the pro-test protesters.

i fucking hate fox hunting. it winds me up when i see people with those fucking 'unjust ban' car stickers and stuff. bunch of toffs.

[Whits]

Sorry Larwood but there was nothing normal about those people interviewed last night . Im not going to go into to much detail but i have had dealings with these Activists and they are not pleasant people.

i've had the same thing. not due to animal testing but another type of activists and its fucking horrible being on the other end of it. I understand the meaning of the message but digging up graves and threating people is not the way to go about it.

Most animal campaigners are probably ok, its just a few that make them look like wankers.

[Turbo]

Im all for animal testing both comsmetic and medical as long as its done in the most humane way possible.

(Cue bricks coming through my window any moment now...)

[Simon Pieman]

as ben says, people seem to automatically assume that anyone who believes in animals rights is an extremist terrorist wankercuntscrote. which isn't true.

i'm torn on the subject, i abhor animal cruelty and i don't like the thought of animal testing - but is it a neccessity? if i was in a position where a member of my family or a friend was seriously ill and opposition to animal testing prevented them from possibly making a recovery, then what choice do you have? totally hypothetical i know, but still.

there's a big furore about the animal research laboratories being built in oxford at the minute, i was going to go along to a protest but i'd probably end up wanting to twat the activists and kneecap the pro-test protesters.

i fucking hate fox hunting. it winds me up when i see people with those fucking 'unjust ban' car stickers and stuff. bunch of toffs.

*Are you a vegetarian then sonic (not accusatory just wondering)?

*I reckon everyone on this forum has used/knows someone who has used medicine tested on animals, even unwittingly. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I do wonder if people research this type of thing before using the medicine? I'm also pretty certain that most of the cancer treatments are tested on animals, and cancer affects us all sometime in our lives and that's just an example. This is why it's such a dilemma.

*When I originally posted my initial view, I didn't mean your run-of-the-mill protestor type, just the extremists. Considering the programme was about extreme activists I thought people would gather this but I was evidently wrong

 :roll:

[DMR]

My cynical input is that until someone volunteers their fucking baby, you're going to have to put up with it. Sorry.

[sonic youth]

i am a vegetarian as of very recently.

if i was in the hypothetical situation i mentioned, then i'd want the medication regardless of whether it was tested on animals or not. i can cope with medical testing, but cosmetics is just sheer pointless.

i wasn't accusing you either, nor anyone in particular, but it's one of those things that has become a huge over-generalisation.