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Lumps

« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, November 28, 2007, 11:51:23 »

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So if he plays the same formation then he can't possible be any better? If a manager plays 4-4-2 is it impossible for him to do any better than any other manager playing 4-4-2? I think the loss to Croatia had less to do with formation and more to do with picking a goalkeeper with no experience in a game anywhere near this big, having never played a competitive game for England before. Unsurprisingly he was clearly very nervous and put in one of the most inept performances in England's history.


Go back to the Croatia game thread and count the number of posts that slag Maclaren off for playing 451. There's a few that insist that anyone that doesn't play 442 with an English team is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to manage a pub team.

I'm just pointing out that if people think like that then they shouldn't get all excited by the special one. He after all is the man who played Cole, Lampard and SWP in exactly the same formation and positions for Chelsea.

I think it's bollocks as I said at the time. For me you lost because 3 out of 4 of your defence just weren't good enough to be playing international football, and without Rooney you're almost completely lacking ideas going forward in open play.
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red macca

« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, November 28, 2007, 12:27:15 »

The difference being maclaren did not know how to impliment the 4-5-1 formation did he .

None of those players wanted to play for him, mourinho  is a different kettle of fish the nation will be behind him from day one which has not happened since Terry venables probably
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, November 28, 2007, 12:52:58 »

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So if he plays the same formation then he can't possible be any better? If a manager plays 4-4-2 is it impossible for him to do any better than any other manager playing 4-4-2? I think the loss to Croatia had less to do with formation and more to do with picking a goalkeeper with no experience in a game anywhere near this big, having never played a competitive game for England before. Unsurprisingly he was clearly very nervous and put in one of the most inept performances in England's history.


Go back to the Croatia game thread and count the number of posts that slag Maclaren off for playing 451. There's a few that insist that anyone that doesn't play 442 with an English team is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to manage a pub team.

I'm just pointing out that if people think like that then they shouldn't get all excited by the special one. He after all is the man who played Cole, Lampard and SWP in exactly the same formation and positions for Chelsea.

I think it's bollocks as I said at the time. For me you lost because 3 out of 4 of your defence just weren't good enough to be playing international football, and without Rooney you're almost completely lacking ideas going forward in open play.


Fair point, I just ignore most of that stuff, there's nothing wrong with 4-5-1 when played well.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, November 28, 2007, 12:54:35 »

4-5-1 = the sack
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, November 28, 2007, 19:06:20 »

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You do realise that he'd play a defensive minded 451/433 formation, in exactly the same way, and probably with the same personnel that SM did against Croatia and you all slagged him off for?


Agreed. Lets get Houllier in.
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