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« Reply #165 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 12:05:27 » |
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It's a shame I only got here after 11 pages... Anybody want a good analogist?
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Vi er best i verden! Vi er best i verden! Vi har slått England 2-1 i fotball!! Det er aldeles utrolig! Vi har slått England! England, kjempers fødeland. Lord Nelson, Lord Beaverbrook, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Clement Attlee, Henry Cooper, Lady Diana--vi har slått dem alle sammen. Vi har slått dem alle sammen. Maggie Thatcher can you hear me?
Your boys took a hell of a beating!"
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« Reply #166 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 12:07:34 » |
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Nope, but I'm full of shit
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Maverick
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« Reply #167 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:42:00 » |
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A really good analogy triseros and it does indeed explain things well. Thanks.
However it seems that although there could be construed to be a conflict of interest, there will be no further progress without his involvement.
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Barry Scott
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« Reply #168 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:00:28 » |
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It's not construing anything Maverick, there is a conflict of interest.
He has a an interest in things involved with STFC.These things are outside of STFC's control, yet have some degree of control, wanted or otherwise, over STFC. He can affect his own finances by being involved in a deal he has no right to be party to. He can construe anything he wishes to in being a middle man. He can manipulate the deal and control the deal to a degree which is better for him than it is for the club or it's directors. End of.
In many respects if he is involved nothing can be done till the contracts are signed, so to speak. If either party is unhappy with any part of any contract, nothing is signed.
The fact is, i suspect the trust wil allow him to the table, provided he signs an NDA. This though, as previously stated is against legal advice.
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« Reply #169 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:07:42 » |
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Yep ok Barry ... but that interest has been declared (if only by virtue of all the publicity!).
So all parties are aware of it and need to take it into account in any discussions.
If SSW gets ripped off in the deal at the expense of Mike D then that is between the two of them. The consortium just need to ensure that their legal team do a thorough job and also put the necessary caveats into any ensuing contract.
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« Reply #170 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:21:38 » |
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The way I see it and I'm trying to to remain as unbiased as I can given my pathological hatred of the board, is that the Consortium have been advised not to persue negotations with Diamandis for legal reasons.
REGARDLESS of those legal reasons, it would be foolish to ignore them and continue blindly into negotiations which could later become null and void due to supposed pending DTI investigations etc.
The only way around this that I can think of is by using a mediator, someone to act as a go-between and a buffer between the board (i.e. Diamandis) and the consortium (i.e. Wilks).
No idea who that would be, the first person that came to mind was Cliff Puffett.
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Maverick
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« Reply #171 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:27:37 » |
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Couldn't agree more Sonic - great idea ...... but!!
It seems that at this stage if the prospective deal is to get anywhere people have to accept that either discussions take place with him in the room .. or they walk away .. at least that is what the official statement seems to say.
Perhaps the first thing would be for a meeting to take place between all sides WITH Mike D in the room, and for that legal advice to be presented to STFC legal advisors .. with a view to agreeing a way forward from there?
Tortuous I know, but to overcome this hurdle then it seems the law needs to be agreed on.
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sonic youth
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« Reply #172 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:34:17 » |
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Sounds like a good idea, no official discussions or negotiations will take place but at least the club and the consortium will be able to discuss the reasons why they've been advised not to persue negotiations with Diamandis acting as adviser, without it being played out in public and no details being disclosed.
Whilst it would be foolish to go against the legal advice, it would be equally foolish to completely refuse to negotiate - meet each other halfway or something.
We all want progress.
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Maverick
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« Reply #173 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:36:42 » |
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See .. left to us sonic we can conquer the world!! .. if only the bastards would listen!!!   |
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Barry Scott
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« Reply #174 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 16:25:18 » |
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I'd like to see Diamandis say that he doesn't want to be involved. That would be a treat.
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« Reply #175 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 16:30:58 » |
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See .. left to us sonic we can conquer the world!! .. if only the bastards would listen!!!  Sonic and Maverick for Chairmen, erm, Chairpersons, erm, Chairpeople, erm, oh bollocks! |
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« Reply #176 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 19:20:23 » |
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Maverick, has the news of Bill Power getting involved in the consortium in any way changed your views of things ? I realise that the club would still need proof of finances, etc, etc.
It would be an interesting guage of how this news is met by someone not so convinced a change of ownership is the nest thing for the club.
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« Reply #177 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 21:16:22 » |
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With respect Lumps, I can't help thinking that you are going to look a bit of a tool when the truth does come out about how this football club has been run in recent years. And I quote you: I fucking knew this would get this reaction. It's absolutely fucking typical of the completely partisan way you lot have started to approach every issue at the club.
"Mark D and Bill P are perfect and totally blameless, the other lot are wankers" sums it up.
Even when Billl promised major investment in the club, then completely understanderbly as a result of his accident and health chose not to pursue it, leaving us financially a bit fucked, it had to be Mike D's fault.
Even when Bill pulled the, "I want my money back" thing, he was still a saint. When it was thought he might be able to get his money back because the terms of his investment hadn't been documented, ....still no criticism of either of them.
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red macca
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« Reply #178 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 21:34:05 » |
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With respect Lumps, I can't help thinking that you are going to look a bit of a tool when the truth does come out about how this football club has been run in recent years. And I quote you: I fucking knew this would get this reaction. It's absolutely fucking typical of the completely partisan way you lot have started to approach every issue at the club.
"Mark D and Bill P are perfect and totally blameless, the other lot are wankers" sums it up.
Even when Billl promised major investment in the club, then completely understanderbly as a result of his accident and health chose not to pursue it, leaving us financially a bit fucked, it had to be Mike D's fault.
Even when Bill pulled the, "I want my money back" thing, he was still a saint. When it was thought he might be able to get his money back because the terms of his investment hadn't been documented, ....still no criticism of either of them.
I've never seen a bunch of football fans be so one eyed. but in all fairness i suppose what lumps said is all in hindsight now is,nt it.i admit when i was in a bad mood the other week i said i doubted markd but then with all the shit in the press lately its hard to know who to believe,i hold my hands up and admit i was wrong and will trust better peoples judgement in future plus it is a stronger man who says sorry(sorry markd) |
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