Simon Pieman
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« Reply #30 on: Thursday, November 16, 2006, 19:48:54 » |
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I don't agree with the death penalty because it clogs up the courts. Seems to me the person killing the convicted is a killer themselves. Fucked up morals if you ask me. Unless they're executing blacks or jews of course.
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pumbaa
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« Reply #31 on: Friday, November 17, 2006, 02:00:59 » |
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I rather witness a good stoning to be honest, Life of Brian stylee. But if they have to hang him, so be it.
Bet it'll be on Pay Per View :?
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« Reply #32 on: Friday, November 17, 2006, 08:58:18 » |
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The problem here is taht it'll be perceived as "victor's justice" and therefore revenge no matter how he is tried.
If (and its an almighty if) we gave the Iraqis anything from this fuck-up, it was a chance to deal with Saddam as they see fit.
I personally think its nothing to be proud of, nor worth all the lives lost.
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millom red
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« Reply #33 on: Friday, November 17, 2006, 19:48:58 » |
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Oh and by the way, you CAN still hang in this country for high treason if im not mistaken.( You are mistaken sir. That punishment was abolished in 1998 (the year of the Calderwood man marking Ronaldo out of the opening match of the world cup) I do believe. I'm sure you are wrong janaage. I beleive the actual description is "a crime against the person of the monarch" ie if you DO the queen! It might have been binned in Scotland but i'm sure that in England, it still applies. Cheers, Millom |
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f it dont need fixing....dont fuckin break it
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janaage
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« Reply #34 on: Friday, November 17, 2006, 19:56:17 » |
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Millom, not trying to be argumentative fella but in last Sunday's Independant was an article about capital punishment, gave details of interesting facts about hangings etc.
In said article it stated that in 1998 hanging was finally formally ended in Britain as the last crime that you could be killed for "hanging for treason" or whatever you wanna call it was abolished. Didn't mention the bitch from london. But they did say that there was nothing you could do in the uk that you could be legally hung for.
I didn't realise until I read it, as I love the Independant I'm sticking to what they say.
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janaage
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« Reply #35 on: Friday, November 17, 2006, 19:56:51 » |
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I rather witness a good stoning to be honest, Life of Brian stylee. But if they have to hang him, so be it.
Bet it'll be on Pay Per View :? Are there any women here??? |
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millom red
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« Reply #36 on: Friday, November 17, 2006, 20:14:51 » |
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I rather witness a good stoning to be honest, Life of Brian stylee. But if they have to hang him, so be it.
Bet it'll be on Pay Per View :? Are there any women here??? You are right janaage, just checked the law society site and indeed it was abolished in 1998, however, crimes against the monarchy can still be punished by hanging on the isle of mann, and the channel islands at the discretion of the govmt so long as said govmt's are in agreement. Good debate tho!  Millom |
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f it dont need fixing....dont fuckin break it
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« Reply #37 on: Saturday, November 18, 2006, 02:28:35 » |
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Read bit's of this thread and thought I'd throw my 2 pence coin with rocky on the heads side into the ring.
There's a few things about post and pre war iraq that I guess most people know, however bad Saddam Hussein was, the majority of iraqi's are worse of now than they werer before. Mr. Hussein hadn't commited any major atrocities that we know about whilst the weapon inspectors were still there pre-war.
Not that any of that really matters. He had been a bit of a cunt before all that. But if the iraqi's want to start again and put the past behind them, is hanging the former leader a good place to start, probably not.
Of course it doesn't really matter. We've backed up the American's going in there and the effort to install democracy, the problem being that they weren't aloud to vote for the wrong people. Oh dear.
I'm completely talking random shit now and have forgotten my point, I'm sure it was good though.
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herthab
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« Reply #38 on: Saturday, November 18, 2006, 06:47:46 » |
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Not sure if Americas version of Democracy is much of an improvement for most Iraqis............
Whatever your views on Saddam (Mine are that he was a power mad, genocidal maniac) you're missing the point.
Hanging may not be part of the legal system here, but whats that got to do with it?
He was sentenced in an Iraqi court. I would imagine the legal system over there is somewhat harsher than ours, so to try and evaluate whether it is just or not, without first putting it into the context of their punishments, is foolish.
If the death penalty is used over there (And it is) Sentencing a man who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people (No, not Bush and Blair) to a life sentence would not make any sense to the Iraqis.
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pumbaa
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« Reply #39 on: Saturday, November 18, 2006, 15:04:59 » |
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Also remember the death penalty is still alive and kicking (no pun intended) in the one remaining world superpower. Including Ohio, where I live :shock:
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