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« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 17:37:07 » |
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Dont you get it?.....we dont need to sell...we need our best players to make the Championship....what is the point of a million in the bank but one good player gone.
Its time to sit on the talent we have. We dont need to take risks on outgoing or ingoing players.....also it dosn't make sense to sell to another club in the league you are in...it will come back to bite you in a lot of cases.
Exactly. For the first time in the club's history, we don't need to sell players. Players are more important than cash at this point in time. In 12 months time when the investors are looking for a bit of a return, it may be different, but for now, we don't need to 'cash in'. And I'm loving every second.
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« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 17:45:54 » |
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I disagree. I don't care how good a player is, there should always be a price at which an asset is saleable. The price we've today seen isn't too far wide of what I consider decent business.
Ritchie is good, don't get me wrong, but as was proven while Caddis was injured, Ritchie was not the same player without Caddis. He needs Caddis to make the space and divide the oppositions defence, which gives him the opportunities required.
What I'm getting at, is I think Caddis is more crucial and Ritchie, although possessing game changing ability and match winning potential, is not irreplaceable (at the right price).
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« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 17:52:49 » |
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So what would you sell Caddis for  Personally i wouldn't sell him....the great teams of Swindons past have been sold on....this could be one such team. Lets keep them all.
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« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 17:56:25 » |
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« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 17:59:09 » |
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So what would you sell Caddis for  Personally i wouldn't sell him....the great teams of Swindons past have been sold on....this could be one such team. Lets keep them all. Once again I say 'exactly'. For once let's see what we can do with a decent squad which is kept intact.
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« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 18:00:49 » |
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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 18:02:25 » |
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So what would you sell Caddis for  Personally i wouldn't sell him....the great teams of Swindons past have been sold on....this could be one such team. Lets keep them all. Don't get me wrong, I'm just playing devil's advocate, I'd love the team to remain together. However, It's a bit like (theoretically) paying £800k for Matt Tubbs - it would make me feel quite uneasy. I think turning down bids of around £1m for Ritchie is similar and I also find it quite disconcerting. We might have money, but I don't see having it as a reason for not receiving money when it makes business sense - our books have to balance one day. And I'd sell Caddis for around the same, but I'd find justifying it a lot harder. 
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« Reply #67 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 18:21:54 » |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm just playing devil's advocate, I'd love the team to remain together. However, It's a bit like (theoretically) paying £800k for Matt Tubbs - it would make me feel quite uneasy. I think turning down bids of around £1m for Ritchie is similar and I also find it quite disconcerting. We might have money, but I don't see having it as a reason for not receiving money when it makes business sense - our books have to balance one day.And I'd sell Caddis for around the same, but I'd find justifying it a lot harder.  Yes, but not just yet 
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« Reply #68 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 19:04:08 » |
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From another point of view no club in our division would pay that kind of money unless it expected that it would make some kind of profit from the deal at some point or they have ambitions which would mirror ours such as prem/champ football. Either way it makes no sense to sell, in the event that he is destined for ultimate football greatness then a club from the Prem/Cham will be in for him soon enough and with this news we've created a good starting point in the auction
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« Reply #69 on: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 04:37:39 » |
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ritchie probably is worth close to that figure, yes. caddis is probably same ball park. together you can add that much again because of their understanding.
i wouldn't sell either of them right now because i really think we'd have to come up with close to half the money we'd take to find a player close to being able to fit in with our regime and style.
it really is a case of the sum equalling more the parts and given we don't have to sell why should we have to and spend time and money trying to get an adequate replacement in?
also, going along with barry's argument, or against... ritchie looked good with caddis, not so much without - i'd argue that our left hand side wasn't as good as our right so having caddis injured balanced that out... i digress... we don't know how well caddis could work with a replacement, what we do know is that together we have a dynamic right hand side that, along with ferry can cause opposition no end of trouble.
is 900,000 ritchie's market value? close to, yes. is it the worth he has to the side? no.
as people have said, now's the time for building a team, let's do that
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« Reply #70 on: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 15:53:09 » |
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I don't think Ritchie is particularly slow and you dont HAVE to have pace to be a good wingers you need a good delivery and footballing brain.....which Ritchie does have 90% of the time.
Chris Waddle and John Robertson never had much pace about them but did well.
I would rather have a Ritchie in the team....who can run with a ball and cross it (often on the cut in) and also shoot than I would have a Macnamee who could dribble with the ball half the time, couldnt cross and got a nose bleed when he was in a shooting position.
And he only had one leg.
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