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Title: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 08:10:12
Presuming this could well be off.

If not - piece of piss, 4-1.


Title: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 08:19:57
I think it'll be on. provided they put the covers on. One assumes Carlisle isn't snowed in.

it's not been that cold and the snow was very melty .

1-1


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 08:43:13
Covers went on Tuesday I believe. Temperature is hitting double figures today and with the rain you’d imagine the snow will be gone by the end of the day.

3.1 win.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 09:51:06
1-0 Town


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 09:56:51
It's mild  ???


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 09:59:57
reckon there will be goals in this one. Has to be said old Paul Simpson is doing a fine job with the Cumbrians, I don't think anyone fancied them to do well and he's got them firing without much of a fuss.

I think we'll come out on top in a 5 goal thriller, 3-2.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 10:15:17
https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59342.msg1693385#msg1693385 (https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59342.msg1693385#msg1693385)

This was the pre-season predictions average, with the gap from current reality in brackets

1   Bradford City (+4)
2   Mansfield Town (+6)
3   Stockport County (+3)
---------------------------
4   Northampton Town (Spot on)
5   Crawley Town (+18, lols)
6   Leyton Orient (-5)
7   Tranmere Rovers (+5)
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8   Salford City (-1)
9   Swindon Town (+2)
10   Doncaster Rovers (+3)
11   AFC Wimbledon (+4)
12   Gillingham (+9)
13   Walsall (+1)
14   Grimsby Town (+2)
15   Crewe Alexandra (+2)
16   Carlisle United (-14)
17   Newport County (+1)
18   Sutton United (-9)
19   Stevenage (-16)
20   Rochdale (+5)
21   Colchester United (-1)
22   Hartlepool United (spot on)
---------------------------
23   Harrogate Town (-4)
24   Barrow (-14)

Generally we did a pretty good job of those predictions, but certainly got Carlisle, Stevenage, Barrow and, in the other direction, Crawley, very wrong.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 10:31:06
Carlisle are regarded as the 2nd best team in the league by many managers and journos and theyr current league position backs that up.

They have won 3 on the bounce and should by no means be under estimated just because they are Carlisle.

In the away game they looked ok but beatable, we played much more of the football than them but they had more shots than us, as you would expect for a home side.

The have won 4 more games than us and lost 3 less.

they have only suffered 1 defeat in 5 games, a large 4-0 home defeat to Mansfield but since then they have beaten Colchester at home 1-0, won 5-2 at Crawley and beaten Grimsby 2-0 at home, they are a decent side.

It appears that if you keep Kristian Dennis quiet then you have a chance, he has scored 18 goals and got 4 assists so far witht he next highest scorers only on 5 apeice.

I would be happy with a draw tomorrow in front of 9,215 with 485 coming down the M6.

Here with the benefit of hindsight are some interesting comments posted after the away game at Carlisle. Some are spot on and some so very wide of the mark, its interesting reading.

Carlisle were shite.

That's what makes it more worrying. A team like that is opening us up time and time again.

More worryingly Lindsey thought they were a good team.

You can Lindsey can both get to fuck on that. You're on another planet, they're atrocious.

Come off it, we are three league games into a season.
You have no clue how good Carlisle are in relation to the rest of the division.

Get it into your thick skulls - We are going to struggle this year as we don't have the money to be competitive in the transfer or loan market.

This will be the season we expected last year. We will be battling at the bottom. Staying up will be a good result.

We also came away from a potential relegation rival with an away point.  

Maybe Carlisle do deserve a bit of credit for ‘tearing us apart’ sure we probably contributed to that but let’s not forget 7 days ago we restricted Salford to absolutely fuck all with 10 men. Carlisle had plenty of chances and they couldn’t all be down to us fannying around. Maybe they are a good side? Maybe they are a decent striker away from being a top 5 team in this league?

Carlisle under Paul Simpson is a good side at this level, they like Salford will be up there.  

Paul Simpson's record for Carlisle, starting last season with a team that was in relegation trouble:

18 Pl.   9W 2D 7L:   ppg: 1.61 (not including today's draw)

Would suggest 72 points over a season and just outside the playoffs based on last season.

Their starting 11 wasn't that hit by injuries, so it was a decent away point against a decent side.  

Interesting that tomorrow we are likely to only be playing at most 4 of the starters from the away game in Hutton, Wakeling, Brynn and Williams with the rest either injured, suspended or left the club.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 10:42:27
I would be happy with a draw tomorrow in front of 9,215 with 305 coming down the M6.
Not Friday yet PV!

Carlisle had sold 370 as of Tuesday AM, so imagine they’ll push 500 with pay on the day.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 10:44:00
Not Friday yet PV!
Fucks sake I have no idea what the day is :D

Changed my away guess accordingly :)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 10:47:29
https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59342.msg1693385#msg1693385 (https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59342.msg1693385#msg1693385)

This was the pre-season predictions average, with the gap from current reality in brackets

1   Bradford City (+4)
2   Mansfield Town (+6)
3   Stockport County (+3)
---------------------------
4   Northampton Town (Spot on)
5   Crawley Town (+18, lols)
6   Leyton Orient (-5)
7   Tranmere Rovers (+5)
---------------------------
8   Salford City (-1)
9   Swindon Town (+2)
10   Doncaster Rovers (+3)
11   AFC Wimbledon (+4)
12   Gillingham (-9)
13   Walsall (+1)
14   Grimsby Town (+2)
15   Crewe Alexandra (+2)
16   Carlisle United (-14)
17   Newport County (+1)
18   Sutton United (-9)
19   Stevenage (-16)
20   Rochdale (+5)
21   Colchester United (-1)
22   Hartlepool United (spot on)
---------------------------
23   Harrogate Town (-4)
24   Barrow (-14)

Generally we did a pretty good job of those predictions, but certainly got Carlisle, Stevenage, Barrow and, in the other direction, Crawley, very wrong.

That thread makes amusing reading, despite the moaning looks like Town are over performing compared to what people expected.  ;) :D

I think it'll be on. provided they put the covers on. One assumes Carlisle isn't snowed in.

Can't comment on Carlisle itself but there feck all in south Cumbria and no suggestion of snow on the M6 so should be fine, up here its all been east coast affected.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 10:51:51
Gills should be +9


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 13:36:44
Carlisle are regarded as the 2nd best team in the league by many managers and journos and theyr current league position backs that up.

They have won 3 on the bounce and should by no means be under estimated just because they are Carlisle.

In the away game they looked ok but beatable, we played much more of the football than them but they had more shots than us, as you would expect for a home side.

The have won 4 more games than us and lost 3 less.

they have only suffered 1 defeat in 5 games, a large 4-0 home defeat to Mansfield but since then they have beaten Colchester at home 1-0, won 5-2 at Crawley and beaten Grimsby 2-0 at home, they are a decent side.

It appears that if you keep Kristian Dennis quiet then you have a chance, he has scored 18 goals and got 4 assists so far witht he next highest scorers only on 5 apeice.

I would be happy with a draw tomorrow in front of 9,215 with 385 coming down the M6.

Here with the benefit of hindsight are some interesting comments posted after the away game at Carlisle. Some are spot on and some so very wide of the mark, its interesting reading.

Interesting that tomorrow we are likely to only be playing at most 4 of the starters from the away game in Hutton, Wakeling, Brynn and Williams with the rest either injured, suspended or left the club.
Sorry. I was going through the menopause at the time! 🤭


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 13:57:01
I see the Sir Thomas Broadbent lot are now doing the stadium announcement stuff. Hopefully the speakers in the DRS aren’t working this weekend either.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 14:13:58
I see the Sir Thomas Broadbent lot are now doing the stadium announcement stuff.

Are they? Is this a one off or ongoing?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 14:16:42
Are they? Is this a one off or ongoing?


https://twitter.com/T_STBL/status/1633823193780871169

Seems like it's ongoing.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 14:20:25
Er OK.

I don't mind Hanners but for whatever reason never really got into the STBL stuff.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 14:55:47
Reece Devine out injured again, 12-16 weeks. Shame for the lad however we might have to look at cutting our losses with that one.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 14:56:18
Reece Devine out injured again, 12-16 weeks. Shame for the lad however we might have to look at cutting our losses with that one.

He has another year on his contract. Sounds like he'll be struggling for pre-season even, which is really tough.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 14:58:17
He has another year on his contract. Sounds like he'll be struggling for pre-season even, which is really tough.

I know we do but we can't have a player constantly injured, perhaps a pay off.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 15:05:24
Swindon 1 Carlisle 2 Att: 9,280 (550 Cumbrians)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4G4qg8pWGfc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-iTwCqXdwtI


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 15:09:01
Was he as injury prone for all his previous clubs?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: bluebry on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 20:59:35
Ok Carlisle fan here.
We (the team, not me as I haven't enough pennies to get that far South) coming down to your gaff in a fairly confident mood, so if we turn up then it should make a very interesting game. If we don't turn up then we can make the Dog and Duck reserves look like world champions.
Don't think you need to worry too much about Christian Dennis, as he is unlikely to start, but will almost certainly be on the bench. However his replacement 'Joe Garner' is an absolute pest and will keep your defenders busy for as long as he's on the pitch. We have two wonderful central midfielders in Callum Guy and Owen Moxon, and when they tick, the team tick's.
At the back we have the old warhorse Paul Huntington, who's still decent despite his advancing years, Captain Fantastic Morgan Feeney, and central defender, wing back, midfielder, striker 'he can play anywhere' 'John Mellish', Simpson once said of him, " I really think he himself hasn't a clue what he's going to do next", expect marauding runs, super intelligent link up play, general commanding of the ball.......................and some complete comedy moments, that's our John, and we love him to bits for it.
Have a happy (but not to happy) day on Saturday and may the best team, that plays in 'very' dark blue win?????
Actually a 1-1 draw and I'll be well happy.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, March 9, 2023, 21:04:20
Was he as injury prone for all his previous clubs?

The 20-year-old full-back would have had lots more minutes in League Two had it not been for a hamstring issue – missing most of February and all of March.

That was for his loan at Walsall


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Friday, March 10, 2023, 08:45:24
What are we thinking in terms of lineup?

                                                         Brynn

                              Minturn              Brewitt            Clayton   

Hutton                                                                                         Tomlinson

                                   Cain                               McEachran

                                                       Williams

                                            Austin                   RHM


On a side note, how long is Harries out for? Not sure I've heard him even mentioned by Morris since he came in.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:04:39
What are we thinking in terms of lineup?

                                                         Brynn

                              Minturn              Brewitt            Clayton   

Hutton                                                                                         Tomlinson

                                   Cain                               McEachran

                                                       Williams

                                            Austin                   RHM


On a side note, how long is Harries out for? Not sure I've heard him even mentioned by Morris since he came in.

I think that's a good team and should have enough about it to get a result. But I think that each week so 🤷


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:06:44
On a side note, how long is Harries out for? Not sure I've heard him even mentioned by Morris since he came in.

IIRC it was around now he was expected to recover, but unlikely to see him this season. Not heard an update either.

With your team, my worry would be its a bit soft through he middle, I'm often wrong though. But I can't see an obvious way to fix it. Maybe swap Wlliams for Cain and put Kadji holding in an effort to protect the back 3? Less inventive but we'd have options to go for it more on the bench.

Based on the Orient game lineup we could go:

             Wakeling       Austin        RHM

Williams         Kadji        McEachran         Hutton

          Tomlinson        Clayton          Minturn

                            Brynn


Not sure Willo provides enough left side cover though (could swap with Wakeling :) ).





Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:17:25
Other than when he did a passable job filling in at the back, I haven't seen anything in Kadji. A first touch like Thor's hammer, very sloppy in possession and I suspect Morris was fuming with his marking for the goal on Saturday when he seemingly totally switched off.

I thought McEachran would be a pure fancy Dan, tippy tappy sort but he's got a nice bit of bite and has done some solid dirty work.

My only thought with my suggested XI would be perhaps Brewitt would move forward a touch and sit as a bit more of a DM, which may help with the issue you've highlighted.

In terms of squad planning I'm never quite sure why we allowed Lyden to walk. Seemingly happy to stick around through his rehab and well worth a short term deal from when he got fit in presumably January time through to the end of the season.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:17:36
What are we thinking in terms of lineup?

                                                         Brynn

                              Minturn              Brewitt            Clayton    

Hutton                                                                                         Tomlinson

                                   Cain                               McEachran

                                                       Williams

                                            Austin                   RHM


On a side note, how long is Harries out for? Not sure I've heard him even mentioned by Morris since he came in.
I think Minturn will be a good CB and had a decent game on Saturday but we need to go easy with him, hes 1 league game into his career and I would have him on the bench as back up.

For me, being at home, we need to be more attacking than the 352 formation and should be going 433 or 442. But, it seems Morris prefers the 352/532 style.

I would go with. (assuming they are all fit).

                       Brynn
Hutton    Brewitt   Clayton    Tomlinson
     McEachran  Williams      Cain
Wakeling         Austin               RHM


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 10, 2023, 10:09:51
Can't comment on Carlisle itself but there feck all in south Cumbria and no suggestion of snow on the M6 so should be fine, up here its all been east coast affected.

So B'Witched were right and we should blame it on the weatherman, nothing forecast but a couple of inches of snow here today, but roads seem OK so should be no barrier to the marauding hoards from Carlisle.

They will be smarting as well having been dumped out of the Cumbrian Cup the other night by Workington Reds!  ;)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 10, 2023, 10:38:11
Other than when he did a passable job filling in at the back, I haven't seen anything in Kadji. A first touch like Thor's hammer, very sloppy in possession and I suspect Morris was fuming with his marking for the goal on Saturday when he seemingly totally switched off.

I thought McEachran would be a pure fancy Dan, tippy tappy sort but he's got a nice bit of bite and has done some solid dirty work.

My only thought with my suggested XI would be perhaps Brewitt would move forward a touch and sit as a bit more of a DM, which may help with the issue you've highlighted.

In terms of squad planning I'm never quite sure why we allowed Lyden to walk. Seemingly happy to stick around through his rehab and well worth a short term deal from when he got fit in presumably January time through to the end of the season.
Lyden has been, and still is, injured at Orient.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Friday, March 10, 2023, 10:40:48
Listening to the LSpod not-presser ep and they're talking to a Carlisle fan who said "we don't mess around with at the back, we can play football but we get rid when we have to, don't play for the sake of it, which you see a lot of teams do at this level. Crawley were trying that against us the other week, which is why we went in 4-0 up at half time."

Thought a few on here (myself included!) might rather like that.

Interesting insights actually - Carlisle attacking heavily down the left (good luck Hutton) in particular.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Laddy in Red on Friday, March 10, 2023, 11:43:48
It was an interesting episode of the pod. Employing a decent press sounds ominous though. RHM has given us more of an out than previously though so maybe, just maybe we won't be giving it away in our own third quite as much.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, March 10, 2023, 14:16:18

Interesting insights actually - Carlisle attacking heavily down the left (good luck Hutton) in particular.

If that's something we expect them to do on Saturday then it could give Morris good reason to go for an asymmetrical formation, more attacking on the left e.g. with Tomlinson, Williams and Wakeling and more defensive on the right.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:12:13
We’ve played the current top 8 sides 12 times so far - only losing twice. Yet we’ve been beaten by some right old crap - Crawley, Colchester, Newport, Harrogate, Crewe etc. Just winning 3 of those would have seen us within spitting distance of the autos.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:19:17
The quandary of football.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:21:14
We're comparing against small clubs on paper and fanbase when in reality there's not much between the quality of players


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:21:22
Is the the debut of the Tom Broadbent lot taking over on the mic?

Interesting to see how this pans out.  

Like a virgins first time shagging, I expect plenty of enthusiasm but ultimately a lot of disappointment.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:57:53
We’ve played the current top 8 sides 12 times so far - only losing twice. Yet we’ve been beaten by some right old crap - Crawley, Colchester, Newport, Harrogate, Crewe etc. Just winning 3 of those would have seen us within spitting distance of the autos.

The quandary of football Swindon Town.

FIFY - I know I've said this loads of times but my old man started going in the 1940's and he says it was even the same then!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 10, 2023, 17:06:01
... the Tom Broadbent ...virgins..

Miquotearama


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, March 10, 2023, 17:53:26
.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXtQxPU0Jo


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, March 10, 2023, 18:06:02
We’ve played the current top 8 sides 12 times so far - only losing twice. Yet we’ve been beaten by some right old crap - Crawley, Colchester, Newport, Harrogate, Crewe etc. Just winning 3 of those would have seen us within spitting distance of the autos.

Just goes to show that consistency it would seem goes greatly unnoticed but has a greater say in the final table than is realised.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, March 10, 2023, 21:45:50
Crewe 4 Salford 3  :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Friday, March 10, 2023, 22:15:55
.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXtQxPU0Jo

He comes across well, dare I say, even likeable for an ex piss stain wanker


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 05:37:27
Fjortoft the younger on Co-comms today.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 05:44:45
He comes across well, dare I say, even likeable for an ex piss stain wanker

Yes seems a very genuine guy considering his past😀


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:01:15
Fjortoft the younger on Co-comms today.
Excellent, he was very tactically aware and speaks very well, obviously educated and fairly eloquent.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:05:27
Excellent, he was very tactically aware and speaks very well, obviously educated and fairly eloquent.
Looking forward to listening to him today given what was said about his previous appearance in the commentary box. On that occasion, I was stuck with the other teams comms.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:06:57
Quite apart from being insightful, his accent is fascinating.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:08:38
Quite apart from being insightful, his accent is fascinating.
It sounded almost Irish to me but was a mix of American, Scottish and Norwegian!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:28:36
Markus was excellent on co comms for the Sutton game, very articulate like his old man. I agree that his accent definitely sounds Irish...


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:31:00
Markus was excellent on co comms for the Sutton game, very articulate like his old man. I agree that his accent definitely sounds Irish...
I would happily have him on every game, his insights into defending come from a good grounding in coaching and very insightful. And yes he does have a unique accent.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:58:07
I would happily have him on every game, his insights into defending come from a good grounding in coaching and very insightful. And yes he does have a unique accent.
Agreed mate


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:03:01
Agreed mate
You watching today mate or just a listener?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:05:43
Markus was excellent on co comms for the Sutton game, very articulate like his old man. I agree that his accent definitely sounds Irish...
Also, gave a sly little dig to Rich from LSPOD re. Khan, which was amusing and also shows he's invested in the fanbase


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:06:49
shows he's invested in the fanbase
Yes but he doesnt join in with "we love you Swindon, we do" as Anthony Grant does when on comms ;) :D


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:18:29
It's a shame he never got to play for Town...


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:21:41
You watching today mate or just a listener?
Just listening today mate


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:23:11
Just listening today mate

Where you located UK or over seas🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:30:57
Where you located UK or over seas🤔
Adje lives in France, or as near as dammit ;)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:38:59
Adje lives in France, or as near as dammit ;)

Cheers JJ 😀


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:42:41
Cheers JJ 😀
Its ok Adje, I will wash my mouth out for suggesting such a thing :D


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:44:30
Its ok Adje, I will wash my mouth out for suggesting such a thing :D

As long as he's not pals with Emmanuel Macron🤣


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:52:07
Markus was excellent on co comms for the Sutton game, very articulate like his old man. I agree that his accent definitely sounds Irish...

29 year old free agent defender!
Why haven’t we signed him up…


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:54:40
Height of 6ft 4 would have been a big asset in league 2


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:58:14
Its ok Adje, I will wash my mouth out for suggesting such a thing :D
🤣 Well,I'm nearer to France than Swindon to be fair!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 13:59:39
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8YJTGXwAMfNzU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Ides of March on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:00:50
No Tomlinson 🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:01:20
Fuck sake. What’s wrong with Tomlinson now.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:01:25
Wakeling LWB from the start? Or Clayton LB?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:01:31
Wakeling at left wingback🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:02:08
Disappointed Tomlinson isnt fit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:02:53
Town defender in being injured shocker


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:03:15
Must have been a training injury or illness because he looked by far the most mobile getting on the coach after the game last week,everyone else looked fucked!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:04:05
Wakeling at Left Wing Back. Christ alive.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:04:07
Although good to see Lavinier back


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:05:54
Although good to see Lavinier back
100% this.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:09:14
Lavinier is so versatile (similar to Tomlinson) I have a feeling Lavinier could come on 2nnd half to replace Wakeling if he is indeed playing at LWB.

Personally I think Lavinier looks better in midfield even than at fullback, Spurs played him in midfield regularly for the U23s so he knows what is expected there.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:13:44
Just the 4 left backs injured then.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:25:00
Just the 4 left backs injured then.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8gl7YWwAAGsN9?format=png&name=900x900)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:27:53
Anyone arriving early in the hope of some quiet  contemplation is going to be disappointed with Hanners on the mic.
Not sure that the 1000 or so in the stadium have been whipped into a frenzy just yet.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:46:30
According to Carlisle fans their Joe Garner up top is a right bastard of a player.  Must be knocking on a bit now mind.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:47:42
Anyone arriving early in the hope of some quiet  contemplation is going to be disappointed with Hanners on the mic.
Not sure that the 1000 or so in the stadium have been whipped into a frenzy just yet.

Just arrived, it’s all a bit embarrassing. He’s singing on the mic.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Trashbat? on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:49:30
Screeching on the mic


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:49:38
Can I be the first to say, Hanners on the microphone is unbearable.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:50:01
Just arrived, it’s all a bit embarrassing. He’s singing on the mic.

Have we binned off the usually stadium announcer for someone ‘looking for experience’ ?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:50:59
According to Carlisle fans their Joe Garner up top is a right bastard of a player.  Must be knocking on a bit now mind.

Joe Garner and Paul Huntingdon. Some deeply unwelcome memories of those two.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:52:33
Joe Garner and Paul Huntingdon. Some deeply unwelcome memories of those two.

Garner has always been a dirty bastard!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:52:34
According to Carlisle fans their Joe Garner up top is a right bastard of a player.  Must be knocking on a bit now mind.
Older than Charlie!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:52:38
Just arrived, it’s all a bit embarrassing. He’s singing on the mic.

It’s fucking horrific.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: normy on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:52:58
I don't remember us playing well with three at the back this season( stand to be corrected) so feeling a bit negative.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:54:12
I don't remember us playing well with three at the back this season( stand to be corrected) so feeling a bit negative.

I think we've been quite a bit better at three at the back since Morris arrived, and I didn't like it earlier in the season. You need someone in that three to be able to carry the ball out of defence though - FBT could do it, Tomlinson did it well last week. We'll have to see if Brewitt or Clayton can do it this week, I'd rather not see Minturn trying it!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:56:26
It’s fucking horrific.
He just loves the sound of his own voice!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Ides of March on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:56:59
That was unbearable to listen to. He’s tried to get about four chants going and not a soul joined in. Not the greatest start for Hanners


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 14:58:40
To be fair, it's the first time he's done it. He'll improve.

We are a *very* short team today by the way.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:01:17
I heard 30 seconds of Hanners in the background on the radio.

Please don’t.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:02:01
Early shout, but is the camera worse than usual? Feel like the frame rate is lower, video looks pretty choppy and don't think it's the internet connection.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:02:12
Ankle injury for Tomlinson


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:02:42
That Fjortoft accent is definitely unique.

…swear there is a hint of Jamaican in there!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:04:35
Poor atmosphere at the moment.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:04:42
Clayton(?) got retaliation in first on Garner!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:05:44
Clayton(?) got retaliation in first on Garner!

I did wonder🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:07:26
Their keeper flapped at that corner!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:08:16
Brynn with a good low take from the cross.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:08:56
This game feels like it will have goals in it... so lump on the 0-0!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:08:59
Rushian’s getting more and more dangerous.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:09:02
RHM twist and turns the defender inside out but his shot is too wide, a great chance after a lovely break and pass by Williams.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:09:56
Brewitt climbs high to head a corner clear.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:10:26
Yellow for their number 8.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:11:10
RHM really lively so far.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:12:52
Brewitt and Clayton linking up well at the back so far.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:16:17
Poss pen that?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:16:29
One day I’m going to count how many times Jonny falls over during a game.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:16:36
Not sure I think he made a lot of it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:16:49
One day I’m going to count how many times Jonny falls over during a game.
You will lose count :)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:17:21
Wakeling on a yellow....worrying!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:17:29
Evened up the yellow cards


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:17:36
Brewitt certainly doesn't look rusty so far, which is good.

Austin and RHM playing a little bit like Kane and Sterling do for England sometimes, with the faster, smaller man ahead and the more traditional centre forwarding playing a little deeper. I don't think that's a bad idea against the big, strong CBs.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:18:27
Thought his yellow was a bit harsh TBH.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:19:05
Easy claim by Brynn from the FK.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:21:34
We’re playing some really nice stuff here.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:22:34
We’re playing some really nice stuff here.
Its an end to end entertaining game so far.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:23:06
Fjortoft explaining why Swindon would pass it around at the back and what the potential upside of it is, rather than just bemoaning it, instantly puts him into the top few co-comms we've had this season!

We're playing really rather well here. My only concern is that I don't think Morrisball suits Charlie Austin at all - or would suit any other traditional centre forward. Our attacking gameplan needs mobility, almost more than anything else. He'd love a Jerry Yates, you think.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:26:18
Have we binned off the usually stadium announcer for someone ‘looking for experience’ ?
Shades of Pete Lewis?🙂


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:27:38
Willo has also been more effective so far than for a few games.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:29:21
Willo has also been more effective so far than for a few games.
He is certainly lively altho being closed down very quickly at times.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Laddy in Red on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:30:12
Anonymous Austin so far. RHM our best forward since his return.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:30:33
He is certainly lively altho being closed down very quickly at times.

Although he's been able to use that to do people on the turn or just take the hit and get a free kick - action and reaction.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:30:34
Bloody Carlisle player should have been booked for that dive.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:30:52
Brewitt sounds decent


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:31:30
Brewitt is pretty dominating in the air.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:31:49
That was a bit naughty by Brewitt, very Branco-esque not-quite-an-elbow but not far off!

Set pieces look our biggest worry here, they are a lot bigger than us.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:32:19
Brewitt sounds decent

He looks decent too


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:33:11
He looks decent too

I can only go on what I'm hearing on the radio😀


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:33:21
Hopefully Brewitt / Clayton will be able become established. It certainly bodes well as that pairing is better than anything Conroy related we've had over the past few seasons


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:33:45
They are beginning to impose their game on us a bit now.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:34:34
Hopefully Brewitt / Clayton will be able become established. It certainly bodes well as that pairing is better than anything Conroy related we've had over the past few seasons

They've played together for 32 minutes, and in a three with Minturn, rather than as a pair. It's a promising start for sure, but a long way to go.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:35:26
Brewitt sounds decent
Thank fuck for that!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:36:32
Minturn did well up against the speedy Patrick.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:37:24
RHM is too isolated. Charlie looks to be playing much too deep behind him.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:38:14
Austin seems to be sat almost in an attacking midfield position trying to release RHM at every opportunity, I would rather he was more advanced though.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:38:30
RHM is too isolated. Charlie looks to be playing much too deep behind him.
:)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:38:32
Referee seems to have decided that we're looking for fouls too much and we're not going to get any more, which is a worry.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:39:16
Very good defending by Cain there in the box.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:39:46
First time hearing Fjortoft Jr as last time I had the other teams coms. He is an excellent commentator, I have to say.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:40:08
RHM cuts inside and tries a shot but he is closed down too fast and its cleared.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:40:31
Fjortoft really is such an insightful commentator. 


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:40:44
It’s 100mph from both teams, neither seem to have got settled yet.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:41:05
I'm impressed with Fjortoft's knowledge of league 2 players.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:42:08
Garner is a fucking whinger.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:42:30
Game is definitely getting a bit of edge.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:43:24
Garner is definitely on his period.
Corrected.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:44:35
Corrected.

Not just him, we've just seen Jonny Williams kick off at someone and he's hardly first to every scrap!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:45:26
My God our long throw ins are utterly pathetic.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:45:48
RHM misses a great chance as his header goes wide.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:47:22
For a 0-0 its pretty entertaining despite the amount of clear cut chances.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:47:41
My God our medium throw ins are utterly pathetic.

FIFY


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:48:06
RHM misses a great chance as his header goes wide.
That could have been the chance!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:48:32
Good, entertaining first half between two well matched sides with contrasting approaches. No goals, but no lack of interest.

Will be watching the second half on delay as I'm popping out now, the MoM thread will be a little delayed until I've finished watching as live.

Come on Town.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:49:03
HT 0-0


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:52:06
We need to have a conversation at how utterly useless Austin is. At least in our current side.

His passing is sloppy, touch heavy and can't put himself about the pitch. Drops too deep and then isn't in the box.

I know he'll score if he gets a chance but if he doesn't he's almost a waste of a position.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:53:27
Enjoyed Brewitt that half, marshaling defence, winning headers, decent vision as well as clearing lines when needed. Also niggling away at Garner which has been lovely to watch.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:53:56
"Sweet Caroline"???
How innovative


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:54:33
Enjoyed Brewitt that half, marshaling defence, winning headers, decent vision as well as clearing lines when needed. Also niggling away at Garner which has been lovely to watch.
Good to hear


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:54:54
Like the look of Brewitt so far. Very aggressive in the tackle, decent in the air and can play a little bit too. McEachran is fucking mustard. Unbelievable touch for this level.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 15:55:31
Enjoyable, entertaining and exciting first half.

MotM so far is Markus Fjortoft! Excellent commentary.

Brewitt looks to be a good signing.
Minturn has been solid.
RHM has been a handful, but panicked when offered a gilt edged chance.
McEachran busy in midfield.

Carlisle look strong and very dangerous. One of those situation where you think we are playing as best we can, while the opposition are biding their time and waiting to pounce.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:05:17
I know we don't have many options but I am not a huge fan of Wakeling at LWB, we need his pace up front, I would take Austin off and get Lavinier or Shade on and push Wakeling further forward.

Playing so deep Austin is almost going through the motions.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:06:23
Att: 9,330 (558 Norverners)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:07:50
RHM thro from a good pass from Wakeling, saved but hes just offside.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:09:00
Morris Out


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:09:03
Att: 9,330 (558 Norverners)

Swindon 1 Carlisle 2 Att: 9,280 (550 Cumbrians)😀

I'll move up the prediction league but would have preferred a Town win!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:09:12
That’s a bit of a goal


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:09:38
0-1


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:10:12
Austin nearly scored an OG in the build up.

Unstoppable finish though from 20 yards.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:10:21
Sucker punch😡


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:10:27
Austin balls up?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:10:36
Absolute schoolboy stuff that. At set pieces of we keep leaving number 22 on his own to pin Brynn and now it’s cost us.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:12:44
Not a great three minutes for Charlie Austin


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:12:50
Carlisle have got a full kit wanker in their fanbase..


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:12:50
Austin balls up?
The corner came in and he headed it onto the bar accidentally the ball came out and the carlisle player hit an unstoppable finish into the top corner. Not anyones fault but also could have been blocked.

Austin heads wide unmarked.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:13:52
That’s a real shame. Not sure we have an equaliser in us today, but hope I’m wrong.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: welshred on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:14:42
That was a fucking sitter.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:15:44
That’s a real shame. Not sure we have an equaliser in us today, but hope I’m wrong.
I think we do but we need to press them more. Austin needs subbing asap.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:16:28
Austin lucky that was just a yellow that was a wild swipe.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:17:22
Austin is crap.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:18:01
Austin is crap.
Harsh, he is crap in this system today though and looks uninterested.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:18:46
Stick Jeffers on and get him up alongside Murphy


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:18:53
Let’s get Wakeling up front.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:20:03
Seems like the stage is set for Adeloye or Jephcott


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:20:23
Let’s get Wakeling up front.
And Austin, I know we have many injuries but the changes in formation for Austin and Wakeling havent worked today yet.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:20:49
Wakeling felled right on the edge of the box, a little lucky.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: welshred on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:21:30
Cain looks completely out of his depth.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:21:58
McEachran good FK saved.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:23:12
Fuck me the rhetoric has changed on here re Austin today..  i despair with some of our fans sometimes, i really do..


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:23:42
Fuck me the rhetoric has changed on here re Austin today..  i despair with some of our fans sometimes, i really do..
He is by no means a poor player but has has had a very bad off day, we all have them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:24:29
Minturn, Austin and Cain off.

Shade, Lavinier and Darcy on.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:25:09
4 at the back with Lavinier at LB.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:25:28
Darcy is an interesting one 🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:25:56
Jephcott really not fancied is he?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:26:42
Not like he’s scored many goals


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:26:54
He is by no means a poor player but has has had a very bad off day, we all have them.

Agree, and that is a valid point which is fair enough, but the way the comments from the sheep on here follow that discussion is ridiculous..


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:27:21
Agree, and that is a valid point which is fair enough, but the way the comments from the sheep on here follow that discussion is ridiculous..
Agree.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:27:33
Morris trying something different quickly again, but I don't think we've done too badly. Austin and RHM should have done better with chances and theirs was a screamer.

We're still in this.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:27:52
Minturn unlucky there. Played well I thought.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:28:35
Morris trying something different quickly again, but I don't think we've done too badly. Austin and RHM should have done better with chances and theirs was a screamer.

We're still in this.
We are by no means out of this, they are not a patch on Orient as a team and definately dont have as good a defence or keeper as Orient have.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:28:53
Morris trying something different quickly again, but I don't think we've done too badly. Austin and RHM should have done better with chances and theirs was a screamer.

We're still in this.

Not convinced we have a goal in us.
We’ve been toothless all game.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:29:02
What was that booking for?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:29:44
Minturn unlucky there. Played well I thought.
I thought he was a little poor at times today, gave the ball away a few times, but then again thats standard for Town defenders. He did a few good thing too mind you and didnt look out of place.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:31:53
Wakeling wins a corner, when we are more direct through the middle we look dangerous.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:33:18
Williams looks a little off the pace this half, giving away a few easy passes, he had a decent first half but not so much this half.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:33:47
Sounds like we're having a good go at it


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:34:04
Sounds like we're having a good go at it
We arent giving up for sure.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:35:11
Anyone seen Sandro at the game?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:36:38
Not convinced we have a goal in us.
We’ve been toothless all game.

Biggest issue is we've had decent enough chances and missed them. Austin should have buried his and RHMs was a tougher but he messed his up equally as bad.

Against 2nd in the league chances like that aren't ten a penny.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:37:12
Wakeling low shot just wide.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:37:23
Shade


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:37:34
Carlisle have turned into a very niggly dirty side under Simpson - not necesserily a criticism, we should do more of it ourselves..


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:38:23
1-1


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:38:31
Get in there


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:38:31
1-1 Shade


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:38:55
Fucking good subs there


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:38:58
Thats been coming.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:39:05
When it's too warm...

Get in!

The Shaddeeeeeeeee!

Come on!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:39:10
Booooom


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:39:17
Fucking good subs there
And the change of tactics.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:39:40
Let’s go for it and try and get the three points!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:39:48
Jephcott on for Wakeling.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:40:00
Jeff on!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:40:53
Shade has really looked up for it since he came on, chasing everything, slightly lucky finish...again, but it went in.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: welshred on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:41:24
Lets get the win then.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:41:30
At least a point each vs the top two would be pretty great given our injury crisis. I'd settle for a point here but three would be incredible.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:42:11
At least a point each vs the top two would be pretty great given our injury crisis. I'd settle for a point here but three would be incredible.
Absolutely it would be.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:42:16
In the Shade, in the Shade!

(Not quite a cannonball)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:45:09
In the Shade, in the Shade!

(Not quite a cannonball)
Not sure Shade has ever cleanly hit any of his goals for us yet!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:46:00
Shade booked for a silly foul, he should have done much better with the pass to Lavinier.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:46:06
Not sure Shade has ever cleanly hit any of his goals for us yet!
King of the Shank


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:46:50
Hutton mistake gives away a corner.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:47:31
Shocking corner by them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:47:51
Brewitt has looked decent.

Morris/Brand are already proving capable of doing much better just with February/March free agency than Lindsey/Ralph can do with an entire summer.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:48:48
Darcy tries a shot from wide, poor effort. Easy save.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:49:19
5 mins added time.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:49:44
5 added. C'mon


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:49:48
McEachran down injured now.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:50:09
McEachran down injured now.

Sigh


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:50:34
Sigh
Hes up again but limping.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:52:50
If only Hutton had put a cross in like that with Austin in the middle.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:53:43
Morris Out


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:01
Ffs


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:19
Corner to them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:34
Bollocks


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:40
Ffs, pissed about with it at the back, at the death. Concede a corner and guess what... Town concede a corner again. Ffs Town  :crash:


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:43
If only Hutton had put a cross in like that with Austin in the middle.

Lucky to have players on the pitch in semi familiar positions at the moment. We might get back to a Hutton/Austin combo when we have some players fit. I've forgotten what it's like.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:46
1-2 FFS


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Lemis on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:54:54
We ended playing for the draw, and ending up gifting them the win as a result


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:55:45
Bunch of useless pricks, absolute brain deeds. Yet again absence of leadership on the pitch is telling!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:55:48
We ended playing for the draw, and ending up gifting them the win as a result

Thing is Carlisle were playing for the draw as well !!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:56:02
Piss poor game management, again!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:56:26
FT 1-2


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Ides of March on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:56:30
I’m absolutely baffled by those last five minutes. Why oh why when a team is so clearly content with a point, would you piss about at the back, show zero intent to go forward and instead invite pressure on yourselves?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:57:03
Rubbish.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:57:17
What a flipping disaster! 😢


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:57:39
Stop going for it after we scored. Got what we deserved


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:57:59
Season over


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: welshred on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:58:05
Piss poor game management, again!

This. Horrendous play when the ball was at Brynn's feet.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:58:14
As 'nice' as our football may be at times, it appears useless in this division - a division in which we will be getting somewhat more practice for the foreseeable future


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Ides of March on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:58:52
Stop going for it after we scored. Got what we deserved

Agreed but I don’t understand why one bit. We have nothing to lose, Carlisle actually had something to protect in their bid for top 3. We’re a mid table side at home, who have just equalised with absolutely all to play for. Why on earth does that result in us sitting back? It’s such a Swindon thing.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:59:14
Why did we stop playing after the equaliser?! Very naive last 5 mins, and the winner was avoidable. Annoying.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 16:59:42
Why did we stop playing after the equaliser?! Very naive last 5 mins, and the winner was avoidable. Annoying.
Exactly this.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:00:41
So tired of their need to pass the ball around in our own box and then giving it away.  Just send the fucking ball away when there is only minutes left and regroup.  No reason that corner should have been given up.  


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:00:48
Season over

It was over after Doncaster


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:02:13
It was over after Doncaster

No wrong but they keep giving us hope just to stomp down on our balls!!   Damn it


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:02:15
Work towards next season....

Get rid of the Large amount of dead wood...

Get rid of Sandro

And startcagain with the team Morris and Brand want


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Ides of March on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:02:40
We play very nice football for the most part, every year. Every season we get plaudits for how well we play, but we always lack game intelligence and nous on how to win. Would be acceptable in L1, but when it keeps happening in L2, it’s so demoralising. Year after year we seem to have a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:02:59
Overall entertaining match except last minute. 


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:08:08
We play very nice football for the most part, every year. Every season we get plaudits for how well we play, but we always lack game intelligence and nous on how to win. Would be acceptable in L1, but when it keeps happening in L2, it’s so demoralising. Year after year we seem to have a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
That’s where we need experience, thanks Sandro! 🤬🤬🤬


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:09:26
Work towards next season....

Get rid of the Large amount of dead wood...

Get rid of Sandro

And startcagain with the team Morris and Brand want

Wasnt in the stand today according to some bloke on twitter


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:10:10
Didn't realise John Barnes was on co-comms?!  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:14:40
Yeah fuck Sandro & his shitty ‘always play it out from the back’ tactics he sets us up to play.

How much experience does a professional player need before they know when to just kick the fuck out of the fucking ball and send it 50 fucking yards in the other fucking direction.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:17:03
Just finished the game. Fucking fuck. We were so good at playing it out from the back all game, it really did work - just not having the situational awareness to realise the 95th minute when it's the absolute last phase of play is just not the time to do it.

We were good today, the result is a gut punch but that was a good performance with a lot of hope for our future in it.

I think Morris takes us up next season. This feels very Wellens' first season, putting something together but a few players need to come in and a few need to go out.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:18:11
Three points from today:
1) How the hell does Cain get a start?
2) We have a manager who knows how to make subs
3) Losing to beefy L2 sides at unmarked set pieces will keep us in this division forever


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:20:58
We just need to stop trying to be so bloody clever.... On and off the pitch.

Stop dicking around with it at the back... It's not big and it's not clever.

Forget about this stupid money ball approach to recruitment (suspect that may have already happened, I certainly hope so) and get rid of the Paddy Power wannabe... everything he touches turns to shit.

Forget about our wonderful possession stats... in fact forget about stats altogether. We're not in the Goddamn Champions League, we're in Division 4.

Let's go back to basics and do what needs to be done to get out of this God forsaken hell hole of a division...

 And another thing!!!! I said after last week that Charlie shouldn't be captain. Just stick him up front, tell him to get the ball in the damn net and not worry about anything else... Let's just keep it simple and we can get out of this league (not this season obviously!)



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:21:49
How much experience does a professional player need before they know when to just kick the fuck out of the fucking ball and send it 50 fucking yards in the other fucking direction.
TBF thats how Carlisle defended most of the game.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:22:08
Some of our fans obsession with Sandro is bizarre.

Blaming him for on field matters is embarrassing and a poor attempt at trying to fuel your narrative.

Morris coaches the team. If they're pissing about with it at the back it's because he's telling them to. Besides, you don't need to be 32 years old to have game management. Or a bit of common sense for that matter.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:22:56
The "dicking around at the back" went really, really well all game and set up most of our fluid attacking moves. It went horribly wrong at the end, and the 95th minute was not the time to do it, but watch out for the baby when chucking all that bathwater around.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:27:17
Fjortoft (talking sense):
- McEachran is important. Has a good touch and a nasty side too
- Austin compensates for the lack of experience, which is why he's been dragged deep. Seems to feel he has to help all across the field, which takes away from his game
- Swindon needs to diversify the type of players it has. Need to recruit a bit of difference amongst the players, so that you can have a plan A and B. That way you can bring a different type of player on and adapt your style to the needs in the game.
- Brewitt shouldnt be one of the most experienced player when coming on for a debut
- Carlisle are in a different stage of their process. They have a spine and have recruited well. Swindon aren't in the same stage of team development as them this season
- Named Brewitt and MotM
 


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:27:19
TBF thats how Carlisle defended most of the game.

Yep. Most passes from a Carlisle player was about 25. McEachran had 79 and Clayton 69. More than Carlisle's total squad passes. Think Town had close to 400 passes.

Just fucked up at the end but there were plenty of positives against probably one of the better sides, with imo the best manager in this division.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:31:18

Morris coaches the team. If they're pissing about with it at the back it's because he's telling them to.


I don't think it's even a Morris problem in the 95 min. It's purely an on field decision in the final moments of the game. Town had played relatively well but gave a gift at the end due to a poor decision making.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:33:47
I don't think it's even a Morris problem in the 95 min. It's purely an on field decision in the final moments of the game. Town had played relatively well but gave a gift at the end due to a poor decision making.
I agree on that. One moment of madness cost us the point.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:34:49
Tiredness kicks in so concentration lapses


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:37:45
Agree with those defending the playing out from the back which was making us opportunities all game. The problem was only doing it poorly in the last minute. That doesn’t negate all that went before.

And I don’t get the hate for Sandro - he must have had an influence in bringing in some or most of Hutton, Lavinier, Khan, Clayton, Wakeling, Brewitt, RHM who’ve all performed decently.



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:40:27
Morris:
- If you gift the opposition an opportunity from nowhere to let them sling the ball into the box to their big lads then you will get punished
- Playing out when there is only 30 secs to go I don't know.
- There were players shouting to get it forward. We wanted to win the game!
- Poor
- Clayton shouldn't have passed it back to Brynn
- Caught between wanting to have a pop at the lad and wanting to praise them for the way they turned things around after the mistake for the first goal
- When you have a young group you can get these types of moments
- We were a threat at the other end of the pitch
- If you make those type of mistakes you have to take it on the chin
- The only problems in the 2nd half were of our own making
- Not sure their defender has scored a goal like that off his weaker foot before!
- Torn out how to react to the team. Wanted to have a pop at them, but also wants the team to know that there was some good stuff.
- Still wants to address the poor bits.
- Tough to take but thats football
- Changes: The 3 that came on made an impact.
- But there were limits of what Morris could do. Knew that Lavinier couldn't come on earlier
- Tomlinson freak injury from blocking a ball yesterday. Has a swollen ankle. Dont know how long out for.
- Wanted to take Wakeling off earlier to save him, but couldn't
- Brewitt: Did some good bits. Showed some composure on the ball. Some nice paces. Hasnt played so was rusty. Slotted in well.
- Elements Morris is pleased with but areas that must improve
- Austin: The chance he got in the second half you would have thought he would have scored. Elements of his game that he won't be pleased with. He was doing his best for the team.
- Brand: Pleased. Between the EFL and whatever legalities whatever had to be done. Its frustrated Morris, but he's pleased its done.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:42:42
Fjortoft:
- Morris doesn't want to slaughter them. Coaching them to play out from the back means that he can't slaughter them for doing it. However, he needs the players to realise that the game sometimes dictates that you do things differently
- He wants to coach the team to find that balance


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:43:00
Agree with those defending the playing out from the back which was making us opportunities all game. The problem was only doing it poorly in the last minute. That doesn’t negate all that went before.

And I don’t get the hate for Sandro - he must have had an influence in bringing in some or most of Hutton, Lavinier, Khan, Clayton, Wakeling, Brewitt, RHM who’ve all performed decently.


But they don’t work as a unit do they, hence we find ourselves 12th in league 2 so in terms of building a squad it’s poor. We lack leadership and game management at key moments and struggle to create chances, too many players are too alike.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:45:13
But they don’t work as a unit do they, hence we find ourselves 12th in league 2 so in terms of building a squad it’s poor. We lack leadership and game management at key moments and struggle to create chances, too many players are too alike.

I guess it's hard to work as a unit when we don't have a settled side and players playing out of position. We need stronger  players in for next season both mentally and physically.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:46:13
I do like the cut of Morris' jib post match, analyses the game better than anyone since Wellens has. I'm optimistic about our chances of getting promoted under him, but I do think it'll be next season rather than this.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:48:29
I think this seasons gone as it's hard to see us winning 8/9 games on the spin so really preparing for next season and hope that Sandro & Morris can highlight the players they need and sign them early in the summer.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:49:35
But they don’t work as a unit do they, hence we find ourselves 12th in league 2 so in terms of building a squad it’s poor. We lack leadership and game management at key moments and struggle to create chances, too many players are too alike.

I don’t know how you can put game management at the TD’s door. I agree we’re three or four experienced heads off being a promotion team but surely the manager should be held principally responsible for who he needs to play his brand of football. And I’m not sure we struggle to make chances - we’re much more threatening now than under Lindsey, in good part due to Sandro recruits RHM, Lavinier, Wakeling, Shade, Hutton.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:54:48
But I think it’s only three or four experienced heads off being promotion team. And I’m not sure we struggle to make chances - we’re much more threatening now than under Lindsey, in good part due to Sandro recruits RHM, Lavinier, Wakeling, Shade, Hutton.
But those lack of 3 or 4 experienced heads are exactly the type of player that Sandro refused to sign hence it’s on him. Hopefully the rumours are true and he is outta here!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:56:34
It's not all bad piss stains now only 3 points away from bottom four and no new manager bounce today😀


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:58:14
But those lack of 3 or 4 experienced heads are exactly the type of player that Sandro refused to sign hence it’s on him. Hopefully the rumours are true and he is outta here!

Agreed, it's imperative that the spine of the team needs to be made up with experience for next season along with emerging talent.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 17:59:28
But those lack of 3 or 4 experienced heads are exactly the type of player that Sandro refused to sign hence it’s on him. Hopefully the rumours are true and he is outta here!

Refused to sign? Think you’re giving Lindsey an extremely easy ride there. Do you think Sandro will also refuse to sign the type of player Morris identifies this summer? Lot of people seem to know a hell of a lot about the internal workings of the club.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: donaldslovehild on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 18:11:36
Some of our fans obsession with Sandro is bizarre.

Blaming him for on field matters is embarrassing and a poor attempt at trying to fuel your narrative.

Morris coaches the team. If they're pissing about with it at the back it's because he's telling them to. Besides, you don't need to be 32 years old to have game management. Or a bit of common sense for that matter.
Totally this, we actually have 6 or 7 outstanding young prospects, more than I can remember in recent years. Developing 'assets' secures the future of the club and, but for being ravaged by injury, we would definitely be in the mix. Boo your own players, savage a guy trying to do his job. WTF, ashamed to be associated with some of the posters on here. The concept of being a 'supporter' seems to have been lost on many.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 18:20:20
Totally this, we actually have 6 or 7 outstanding young prospects, more than I can remember in recent years. Developing 'assets' secures the future of the club and, but for being ravaged by injury, we would definitely be in the mix. Boo your own players, savage a guy trying to do his job. WTF, ashamed to be associated with some of the posters on here. The concept of being a 'supporter' seems to have been lost on many.

And you are agreeing with a poster that said that Austin is crap an hour ago.  I haven't seen anyone really questioning the model of developing assets, more questioning the decision maker of that model.  I for one agree with the model, but for it to work you have to get the other side of it right, which is 1.) to make sure you have enough players in certain positions to be able to cope with injuries and suspensions 2.) be willing to be flexible with the model at times when needed and required.  All of the teams that have been successful with the model have introduced it over time and in a sensible way - we went in two footed with it and have paid the price in terms of recruitment this year..


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: donaldslovehild on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 18:33:55
And you are agreeing with a poster that said that Austin is crap an hour ago.  I haven't seen anyone really questioning the model of developing assets, more questioning the decision maker of that model.  I for one agree with the model, but for it to work you have to get the other side of it right, which is 1.) to make sure you have enough players in certain positions to be able to cope with injuries and suspensions 2.) be willing to be flexible with the model at times when needed and required.  All of the teams that have been successful with the model have introduced it over time and in a sensible way - we went in two footed with it and have paid the price in terms of recruitment this year..
You make some very good points and mistakes have been made regarding adequate cover for injuries. Can't agree that no one is questioning the model though and I don't believe I inferred Austin was crap.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 18:43:13
You make some very good points and mistakes have been made regarding adequate cover for injuries. Can't agree that no one is questioning the model though and I don't believe I inferred Austin was crap.

Nobody has questioned that we need to develop assets at this club, which is what your original point referred to, and I didn't infer that you inferred that Austin was crap - the poster you quoted stated it about an hour into the matchday thread.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Gloucester Reds on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 18:59:28
New poster so don’t shoot me !!!
Work rate and effort today 100% can’t be faulted.
Lack of experience obvious but out of the experienced players - Charlie shouldn’t be captain, shouldn’t be dropping back and doing donkey work - his role is to put the ball in the net with the others supplying the service to him.
Johnny Williams sorry needs to man up - his reputation for spending every other second on his ass is costing us big time and he is failing to help the youngsters. Knuckle down and stop being a billy big bollocks.
We were out on our feet in injury time- lack of fitness caused by the appointment of the glorified PE teacher at the start of season as manager/head coach. However, that plus players having to play out of position doesn’t excuse the basics I learnt at under 9s level (45 years ago) that you mark at corners.
It was obvious where it was going, Brynn should have taken everyone out to claim the ball but stood there and the guy at the back post had the freedom of Wiltshire to head it in. As poor and inconsistent as the referee was (still concussed from the Grimsby game ?) he wouldn’t have punished Brynn for barging through the blockers to get a ball in the six yard box. Chances are a challenge on the defender by marking him wouldn’t have led to the goal and given us the draw we deserved.
This season has gone and recruitment for next season is critical with the prices going up. I will renew for the 45th consecutive season but I know a lot of casual fans who are picking and choosing games and another lot of season ticket holders who won’t renew if we don’t get it right.
It’s the managers job to choose the players not a bloody data analyst - I would still say the same if we were not in the position we are now. Crap division with crap grounds and teams - we need to get out of it


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 19:00:20
Totally this, we actually have 6 or 7 outstanding young prospects, more than I can remember in recent years. Developing 'assets' secures the future of the club and, but for being ravaged by injury, we would definitely be in the mix. Boo your own players, savage a guy trying to do his job. WTF, ashamed to be associated with some of the posters on here. The concept of being a 'supporter' seems to have been lost on many.
We need to develop players yes, the way we’ve done it this season however isn’t the way to do it and has for large parts been a disaster. The best way of developing players is to have them learn playing alongside more experienced players and then kick on, other than Austin we don’t have anyone that the younger players will learn anything from on the pitch. The core of the team needs to be street wise and regular 6 or 7 out of 10 performers as inexperienced players will invariably blow hot and cold.

Experienced heads would have pulled rank at the end today and told our backline there is one minute left and not do anything stupid, and for set pieces would help organise things. It’s not a coincidence the last 3 goals we’ve conceded have been set pieces with 2 of them free headers, our organisation at them is poor.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 19:09:12
Totally this, we actually have 6 or 7 outstanding young prospects, more than I can remember in recent years. Developing 'assets' secures the future of the club and, but for being ravaged by injury, we would definitely be in the mix. Boo your own players, savage a guy trying to do his job. WTF, ashamed to be associated with some of the posters on here. The concept of being a 'supporter' seems to have been lost on many.

6 or 7 outstanding prospects? Would love to know who they are?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 19:21:15
6 or 7 outstanding prospects? Would love to know who they are?

Not including Brynn who isn't contracted to us, I think it's fair to say that Clayton, McEachran, Lavinier and Wakeling are terrific prospects, and if you were being generous you could include Cain (on reputation rather than performances for us), maybe RHM although he's pushing it age wise. I don't think there's a lack of potential in our squad at all, it's just unbalanced.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 19:49:46
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vNkfU8UkmQ0


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 19:57:19
New poster so don’t shoot me !!!
Work rate and effort today 100% can’t be faulted.
Lack of experience obvious but out of the experienced players - Charlie shouldn’t be captain, shouldn’t be dropping back and doing donkey work - his role is to put the ball in the net with the others supplying the service to him.
Johnny Williams sorry needs to man up - his reputation for spending every other second on his ass is costing us big time and he is failing to help the youngsters. Knuckle down and stop being a billy big bollocks.
We were out on our feet in injury time- lack of fitness caused by the appointment of the glorified PE teacher at the start of season as manager/head coach. However, that plus players having to play out of position doesn’t excuse the basics I learnt at under 9s level (45 years ago) that you mark at corners.
It was obvious where it was going, Brynn should have taken everyone out to claim the ball but stood there and the guy at the back post had the freedom of Wiltshire to head it in. As poor and inconsistent as the referee was (still concussed from the Grimsby game ?) he wouldn’t have punished Brynn for barging through the blockers to get a ball in the six yard box. Chances are a challenge on the defender by marking him wouldn’t have led to the goal and given us the draw we deserved.
This season has gone and recruitment for next season is critical with the prices going up. I will renew for the 45th consecutive season but I know a lot of casual fans who are picking and choosing games and another lot of season ticket holders who won’t renew if we don’t get it right.
It’s the managers job to choose the players not a bloody data analyst - I would still say the same if we were not in the position we are now. Crap division with crap grounds and teams - we need to get out of it


Cracking first post that.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 20:33:47
A properly winding gut punch today. Brynn just had to put his foot through it...

That said, the improvement in a few short weeks has been massive. Organisation, commitment, desire etc all on show today. Morris will take us up, either by fluke this year (never stop dreaming!) or we'll steamroller the league next season.

The bones are there if we can just add a bit of grit and experience. A horrible, elbows in your ribs, 6ft 2inch target man would have made a massive difference this season just so that you can go long as a plan B or late in a game and have a chance of holding it up. Austin is a penalty box poacher, a brilliant one, but not more than that and on days like today where it is a midfield battle he is never going to add much, nor when we pump it long. I can't understand why we didn't do more low whipped crosses when they clearly had such a height advantage...

Anyway, really positive signs. I was gutted for the team. And if McEachran and Brewitt are indicators of the Morris/Brand rolodex than we have plenty to look forward to. I thought the latter was really good on debut today.

Definitely no Sandro in the directors box for what it is worth!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 20:47:13
I do like the cut of Morris' jib post match, analyses the game better than anyone since Wellens has. I'm optimistic about our chances of getting promoted under him, but I do think it'll be next season rather than this.

Agree. Its a gut punch losing that in the final seconds, but he gives me confidence for the future. So does parts of our play today.

Frustrating.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pookemon on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 20:47:36
We concede goals from corners but never score them.  Been the case for years.
Until we realise that a team full of midgets wont win league 2 we will stay there forever


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 20:57:54
Excellent post and glad that someone else gets it that the overall height of the team is too small making us vulnerable at that the back and no threat up front from corners and set pieces


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 21:02:30
lack of fitness caused by the appointment of the glorified PE teacher at the start of season as manager/head coach.

 :D

Careful. Some think its a coincidence.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: bluebry on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 22:01:13
Ok Carlisle fan here so please don't shoot me, and I watched it on a dodgy box, so opinions may differ from people that were actually there, but anyway here are my opinions??
I thought that overall both teams were on an even keel, midfields winning the day with limited offensive actions (by both sides) most of the game.
We, looked comfortable after we scored, and it wasn't until our management made a couple of (in my opinion) baffling substitutions that looked like it was going to change the game. Because shortly after that Swindon started to take control and it was no surprise when they equalized, I was then fearing the worst as suddenly you were all over us, only a winner for the home side was in my thinking, although secretly hoping for a draw (which was the best I could hope for at that stage).
However rather than 'us' trying to win it it looked like Swindon were trying to 'give it away', completely senseless playing from the back which slowed the impetus down and allowed us to get a foothold back in the game, completely baffling!!!!!! At that stage surely a bit of "lets chuck the ball in the box at all costs" which would have at least kept us down in our own penalty box, and at the very least the game would have ended in a draw. Not sure why on earth lower league managers think they can play 'out from the back' with the limited players at their disposal.
Anyway thanks for the 3 points and it's gone a long way from erasing that dreadful performance at our place last season 0-3, but at least that 'dreadful performance' led to Simmo (our king) getting the Carlisle job.
Personally I think you may still get in the play-offs (and I'm not trying to be nice) as there seems to be a bit of quality there. Just hope if you do then you don't play us, as it may be a completely different game. As a poster said on an earlier thread "just stop fucking about at the back". 


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pookemon on Saturday, March 11, 2023, 22:05:48
We won't - it's the Swindon way and why we have slowly headed downwards for decades.  Worked for Hoddle but very few since.

Wish you all the best as could do with some southern teams in this league next year.



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 01:26:50
We didn’t deserve to win that, but didn’t deserve to lose. However… if you let the biggest bloke on the pitch, wearing number 9, stand at the far post for a free header in the six yard box, you’ve got issues. Forget how it came about, that’s basics.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: dogs on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 02:25:44
Ok Carlisle fan here so please don't shoot me, and I watched it on a dodgy box, so opinions may differ from people that were actually there, but anyway here are my opinions??
I thought that overall both teams were on an even keel, midfields winning the day with limited offensive actions (by both sides) most of the game.
We, looked comfortable after we scored, and it wasn't until our management made a couple of (in my opinion) baffling substitutions that looked like it was going to change the game. Because shortly after that Swindon started to take control and it was no surprise when they equalized, I was then fearing the worst as suddenly you were all over us, only a winner for the home side was in my thinking, although secretly hoping for a draw (which was the best I could hope for at that stage).
However rather than 'us' trying to win it it looked like Swindon were trying to 'give it away', completely senseless playing from the back which slowed the impetus down and allowed us to get a foothold back in the game, completely baffling!!!!!! At that stage surely a bit of "lets chuck the ball in the box at all costs" which would have at least kept us down in our own penalty box, and at the very least the game would have ended in a draw. Not sure why on earth lower league managers think they can play 'out from the back' with the limited players at their disposal.
Anyway thanks for the 3 points and it's gone a long way from erasing that dreadful performance at our place last season 0-3, but at least that 'dreadful performance' led to Simmo (our king) getting the Carlisle job.
Personally I think you may still get in the play-offs (and I'm not trying to be nice) as there seems to be a bit of quality there. Just hope if you do then you don't play us, as it may be a completely different game. As a poster said on an earlier thread "just stop fucking about at the back". 

Shut it


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 06:59:05
Is zonal marking at corners a bit too boutique for L2?
They had the man free at the back post all game, just needed to get the delivery right which eventually they did.

I like to see the centre forward get involved in games so no problem with Austin dropping deep. Some of the short range contributions were good but the attemps at longer passing less so.
Better to contribute than be isolated for most of the game as has been the case recently.

Not really happening for Cain at the moment & not through want of trying.
Maybe it's taking time to settle in, but hopefully he'll be fine.



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: donaldslovehild on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 07:37:28
Nobody has questioned that we need to develop assets at this club, which is what your original point referred to, and I didn't infer that you inferred that Austin was crap - the poster you quoted stated it about an hour into the matchday thread.
No problem.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pookemon on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 08:31:27
Thought we played well, 2nd half in particular and we are definitely improving under Morris.   Players didn't deserve to get booed off.

But we created our own problems again.  Gave them an opportunity to press and yet another free header followed.

This season has been a fuck up from the start, the scattergun approach to recruitment, think we now have 34 players on the books, and the appointment of lyndsey were baffling.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 08:46:16
From my perspective reading most of the posts we can all see the issues prior to the game (Sandro, Lyndsey etc) and of course the cluster fucks during yesterday’s game particularly the last few minutes.

I felt a degree of sympathy for Austin yesterday but one man cannot do it all on his own. Minty, well done lad. George played well infact there were a lot of positive performances just not all at the same time during the game. Second half was obviously a better half whereby we took the game to them but even that petered out and was not consistent enough to win the game. Clearly as has been mentioned the winning goal was a fucking gift. Which has been symptomatic of our season. Consistently inconsistent.

There are green shoots and it would seem that Morris and Brand have had some effect on that. I’m still optimistic of an auto finish (fading fast) all be it in third place and realistically more likely a play off spot but by Christ we need to get a shift on starting on Tuesday away at Warsaw.


Title: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 08:49:24
what happened on the winner then. saw the 'highlights' and bugger all context to the corner.

son #2

" It was an embarrassing game at the end

 We had a goal kick at the end and we did what we do best

Play it short'


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 08:49:32
I honestly think if we had walked away from game yesterday having lost 1-0 that most people would have felt less unhappy, the fact we had fought so hard to get back in the game got our equaliser and then gifted them the opportunity to sneak the win so late was just so irritating


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 08:59:41
Thought we played well yesterday, especially second half. The football is a lot better under Morris, McEachran is a real steal and he ran the show the second half. Think we'll fall up short this season, as injuries, Lindsey, and a lack of appropriate recruitment will cost us. We're still lacking tactical nous, to piss around with it at the back in the final 2 mins having fought hard to earn a point against a pretty decent outfit was just naïve and I'm glad Morris addressed that at the final whistle.

Hope that's Jephcott's last game for us, he was absolutely useless - I'd rather see Adeloye given a run-out, as he may also prove to be useless too but I've seen enough from Jephcott now to think he's nowhere near good enough. 


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: kaufman on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 09:15:56
The big takeaway for me was I’ve full confidence in Morris and Brand to evaluate this squad, keep, get rid, or replace any player and we will be stronger than even last year. I won’t be gutted about any player leaving. Morris even in his short stint seems the real deal. Sandro has to be given credit for getting him in. Of course this is the appointment he should have made in the bloody first place.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: derbystfc on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 09:35:24
The big takeaway for me was I’ve full confidence in Morris and Brand to evaluate this squad, keep, get rid, or replace any player and we will be stronger than even last year. I won’t be gutted about any player leaving. Morris even in his short stint seems the real deal. Sandro has to be given credit for getting him in. Of course this is the appointment he should have made in the bloody first place.

I think it was Clem that made the push for Morris, same as for Austin too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 09:35:26
Feel that for as much of a sucker punch that late winner was, can't help but feel there are some parallels with Wellens 18/19 season where it's becoming evident we are much better coached and there is something good to build on.

Feel that regardless who is DOF come the summer, there will be a few 25-31 year old signings to help us build on what we have.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 09:50:47
Feel that for as much of a sucker punch that late winner was, can't help but feel there are some parallels with Wellens 18/19 season where it's becoming evident we are much better coached and there is something good to build on.

Feel that regardless who is DOF come the summer, there will be a few 25-31 year old signings to help us build on what we have.

Some street-wise needed in the team too. That 22 for them was a right prick but you could see he was rattling a few of our players. Teams don't win leagues / get promotion by being nice, and we definitely need a bit of steel in the team.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: kaufman on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 09:55:12
I think it was Clem that made the push for Morris, same as for Austin too.

Sandro held the initial meeting with Morris and his agent at a golf club. He didn’t put him off.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 10:01:31
Sandro held the initial meeting with Morris and his agent at a golf club. He didn’t put him off.

Thank fuck for that.
It would not surprise me to see Sandro still here start of next season if Morris and Brand believe in the recruitment model. The model works, what didn’t IMHO was a combination of budget, Lyndsey and maybe Sandro’s algorithms. Surely M & B will have a bigger and more experienced input and that should lead to better signings, better preseason and a more solid start wherever we are come August.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DMC on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 10:23:46
Not that i think he will be but if he is still here next season then i personally will not be renewing. I have seen and heard enough to think he is not cut out for the job. I think he ends up getting the right things done because he is told after much back and forthing just do as he is told, all just my opinion but for me i will not be renewing if he is here next season. That said i will be amazed if he is here next week let alone next season


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 10:47:15
I think it was Clem that made the push for Morris, same as for Austin too.

Why do you think this?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 10:59:48
When I weigh it up, we've matched the top two for football with a weakened squad but as others have said we lack a touch of steel. Ability wise we are as good as any team in this division and I still have hope of a top 7 finish. We are capable of beating every team put in front of us. One observation,I think Darcy is better than Cain


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DMC on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:03:41
Why do you think this?
Morris said it again his preview yesterday that the Brand deal was complete because the 'right' people are involved now, added to Austin saying in every single interview that it would not have been done if Clem didn't step ini can see why he thinks it


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: derbystfc on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:05:54
Why do you think this?

Purely from comments from Morris in the press conference when he was unveiled, and what Austin said when he signed.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:12:44
When I weigh it up, we've matched the top two for football but as others have said we lack a touch of steel. Ability wise we are as good as any team in this division and I still have hope of a top 7 finish. We are capable of beating every team put in front of us. One observation,I think Darcy is better than Cain
Absolutely.

Personally I thought Darcy was as bad as Cain yesterday when he came on, constantly giving the ball away.

For me Khan is a better footballer than both of them put together and only 2 more games and he will return. Just hope he can sort his head out from making stupid challenges and losing his temper so easily and he will be an automatic starting player ahead of Cain and Darcy.

If we can get Tomlinson and FBT fit again with the return of Lavinier and Khan thats a pretty strong side, I would play Lavinier in front of Hutton too who has become really poor at doing what he does best since deadline day it seems. Hes down to 1 or 2 decent crosses per game rather than the 4 or 5 he used to deliver.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:20:00
Purely from comments from Morris in the press conference when he was unveiled, and what Austin said when he signed.

We know Austin was Clems signing - he out right said that.

Seen nothing to prove Sandro was bypassed with Morris.



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DMC on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:22:54
We know Austin was Clems signing - he out right said that.

Seen nothing to prove Sandro was bypassed with Morris.


Yeah nothing been said publicly as such apart from the little hints as of late. Soon see i suppose


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:30:40
Fuck me the rhetoric has changed on here re Austin today..  i despair with some of our fans sometimes, i really do..

I get where you are coming from, but as our talisman he was very poor yesterday. First half he played like he had been in the pub all morning. I said it in the MOM thread but I'm not sure he suits how JM is setting up but I guess we can't NOT play him so it's a bit of a conundrum.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 11:59:18
There were definitely enough positives from yesterday to suggest that under Morris and Brand we've definitely got a good chance of having an exciting season next season. I think they have implemented a good balance of possession  and more direct play. It was a very even game up until Carlisle's freak opener. JM made the changed and we controlled the play earning a well deserved equaliser and we should have gone on to earn at least a point. He said last week, if you aren't going to win, at least make sure you don't lose.

The last minute of the game was just odd. It seemed that Brynn seemed a bit confused at how to see out the game. My preference would have been for him to go long and wide, we maybe get a nick off a Carlisle defender and we get a long throw chance into their box. To do what we did, and then defend the corner the way we did was absolutely horrific. Standard how not to close out a game 101.

A real shame, but positive signs under this management duo given what they are doing with the rag tag of squad we have. This summer and next season are going to be cracking I reckon.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DMC on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:00:09
In his defence he is a 33 year old man who was bought in to be a target man and play a bit part and get on the end of crosses. He has no been effectively been asked to run his bollocks off for most of the game whilst hepburn murphy fails to trap cement and Williams throws himself to the ground every 5 minutes.

He is the only one dropping deap to try make it happen from that front 5 . Just leave him up the top of the pitch


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:01:58
In his defence he is a 33 year old man who was bought in to be a target man and play a bit part and get on the end of crosses. He has no been effectively been asked to run his bollocks off for most of the game whilst hepburn murphy fails to trap cement and Williams throws himself to the ground every 5 minutes.

He is the only one dropping deap to try make it happen from that front 5 . Just leave him up the top of the pitch

Fair points. He did have a free header which you would expect him to at least get on target, just an off day for him really. Next chance he gets he will bury


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:03:46
We need to remember we've just played the top two sides in the middle of a full blown injury crisis. Morris is having to shuffle a pretty sparse hand. He'll know that Austin is a last 12 yards poacher, so lets see how we go when a few more players are back. I've written this season off, largely as a result of our bizarre January, so if we somehow sneak in at the death then it will be a bonus but there are green shoots clearly coming through in the last 4 games.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:06:45
Quote from: DMC
In his defence he is a 33 year old man who was bought in to be a target man and play a bit part and get on the end of crosses. He has no been effectively been asked to run his bollocks off for most of the game whilst hepburn murphy fails to trap cement and Williams throws himself to the ground every 5 minutes.

He is the only one dropping deap to try make it happen from that front 5 . Just leave him up the top of the pitch

it's no coincidence both Austin and Jephcott have struggled to make chances. We don't play to their strengths enough.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:08:05
Absolutely.

Personally I thought Darcy was as bad as Cain yesterday when he came on, constantly giving the ball away.

For me Khan is a better footballer than both of them put together and only 2 more games and he will return. Just hope he can sort his head out from making stupid challenges and losing his temper so easily and he will be an automatic starting player ahead of Cain and Darcy.

If we can get Tomlinson and FBT fit again with the return of Lavinier and Khan thats a pretty strong side, I would play Lavinier in front of Hutton too who has become really poor at doing what he does best since deadline day it seems. Hes down to 1 or 2 decent crosses per game rather than the 4 or 5 he used to deliver.
Yes mate I agree Khan is better than both but in the meantime I think Darcy offers more than Cain has shown so far


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:27:42
Yes mate I agree Khan is better than both but in the meantime I think Darcy offers more than Cain has shown so far
Cain has been so disappointing so far, hes shown some great touches of class at times and then gives away possession with sloppy passes straight after, he blatantly has talent but through whatever reasons he has yet to grab any game and show why we signed him.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:29:03
This is where  Morris/Brand’s coaching expertise should come to the fore.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:34:31
I really don't get the Darcy hype, think he's miles off it personally


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:34:50
so how was the pre match in stadiim build up then

Seems hanners has deactivated his Twitter after negative feedback.

personally I'm not comfortable when when group starts to exert influence in the club and others excluded, but at the end of the day  he was just trying to liven up the match day atmosphere.

missed what actually happened on Twitter mind, seems a massive shame


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:38:01
The usual reaction nowadays when people have an outlet for their bile. A harmless bit of fun gets a shedload of personal vitriol, no doubt from those who would never get off their lardy arses to do anything.

Social media at its worst.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:39:20
Appreciate one swallow doesn't make a summer but I wonder, given how good he looked yesterday, if in time Brewitt could slot in as DM? Apparently he does play there too. Could add much needed physicality in our midfield. That said you've got to think that unless he is the bionic man he is going to struggle to push out another 90 mins on Tuesday from a match fitness perspective.

Cain was actually okay for me at the defensive side yesterday, getting stuck in, but was very sloppy in possession. Darcy looks good when we have the wind in our sails but goes MIA when it is a L2 slugfest, which it is most weeks!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:42:05
Regarding Hanners;

If he has actually received abuse on social media, that is absolutely 100% not ok.

However, if he has deactivated just because a large portion of the fan base thought yesterday was cringe and embarrasing then he needs thicker skin i'm afraid.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:45:27
Appreciate one swallow doesn't make a summer but I wonder, given how good he looked yesterday, if in time Brewitt could slot in as DM? Apparently he does play there too.

Clayton can play there too.

Definitely long term ideas as we have to play whoever is fit at CB at the moment.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:49:27
I really don't get the Darcy hype, think he's miles off it personally
Not by any means saying he's the answer to our problems,just that I think he's better than Cain. But,as stated,Khan tops the pair of em for me


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:53:30
Definitely medium term thinking at best, but every good Swindon team I can remember has had a nasty bugger in midfield. Grant, McCormack, Douglas in recent times and plenty more going back further. It has been completely lacking this year and Khan absolutely isn't that man. If nothing else he doesn't have the temperament to be a horrible s***house!
As much as I like Clayton though, I feel his decision making speed is better suited to defence than midfield. A touch ponderous at times... Still one of our better performers this year and plenty to build on there.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:57:00
I haven’t seen any abuse as such on social media towards Hanners, but I did see ALOT of ‘make it stop’ type tweets. Myself included in that.

I understand the process behind it and trying to get some kind of atmosphere going, but unfortunately it sounded like someone had given a drunk person a bloke, and attempting to start a Harry McKirdy chant to wind the Carlisle fans up was just pathetic.

The atmosphere does need improving, but I don’t personally think that’s the way to do it. If Hanners wants to start chants, he can do that in The Town End without a microphone.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 12:58:25
Its definitely needed at this level.

Brewitt/Clayton/FBT may even work as a back three next season.

But we absolutely need to be looking at a tough tackling midfielder with experience to help the younger players next season. Not just recruiting short kids who are good technically and then playing them behind the more attacking players and hoping for the best.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:02:06
This is where  Morris/Brand’s coaching expertise should come to the fore.

Indeed with all the squad where necessary.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:08:40
so how was the pre match in stadiim build up then

Seems hanners has deactivated his Twitter after negative feedback.

personally I'm not comfortable when when group starts to exert influence in the club and others excluded, but at the end of the day  he was just trying to liven up the match day atmosphere.

missed what actually happened on Twitter mind, seems a massive shame
I wouldn’t message him directly as I assume some have done but at the same time it seems to have gone full circle on Twitter where you can’t criticise it and he should be thanked and applauded regardless.

I walked into the ground with a rendition of him singing “oh Harry McKirdy” it was just ridiculous. It was an embarrassing experience and was picked up by the Carlisle fans as sounding like a drunk guy had picked up the microphone.

Hanners seems a nice guy but he is another that seems to think he is the voice of the fans and that will always rub some up the wrong way. His mission to make Caddis manager was a case in point, he seemed a bit off when everyone else didn’t seem to share his enthusiasm.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: derbystfc on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:11:19
We know Austin was Clems signing - he out right said that.

Seen nothing to prove Sandro was bypassed with Morris.



Only hint's as said, which why I said 'I THINK', not 'I KNOW'


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:19:42
I wouldn’t message him directly as I assume some have done but at the same time it seems to have gone full circle on Twitter where you can’t criticise it and he should be thanked and applauded regardless.

I walked into the ground with a rendition of him singing “oh Harry McKirdy” it was just ridiculous. It was an embarrassing experience and was picked up by the Carlisle fans as sounding like a drunk guy had picked up the microphone.

Hanners seems a nice guy but he is another that seems to think he is the voice of the fans and that will always rub some up the wrong way. His mission to make Caddis manager was a case in point, he seemed a bit off when everyone else didn’t seem to share his enthusiasm.

Personal abuse is absolutely not acceptable and having listened to the Tom Broadbent lounge podcast a couple of times, when I heard he was going to be doing the pre-match thing i didn't personally think it was a good idea, but I know a lot of people love his enthusiasm. It seems yesterday was just a case of getting carried away. The Carlisle fans/Harry McKirdy thing I think was a poor idea and if you are willing to stand in the middle of a pitch with a microphone in front of 10,000 people you have to expect some feedback. (not the ropey microphone kind)

Absolute fair fucks to him for having the cojones to do it and hopefully the occasion hasn't affected his mental health too much and he goes back to fronting the podcast that I know many fans enjoy.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: donaldslovehild on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:21:35
Only hint's as said, which why I said 'I THINK', not 'I KNOW'

It's called 'making stuff up'.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:28:30
Really disappointed to see about Hanners. I found it cringey and awkward yesterday but at least he was trying. Could have had some genuine constructive feedback and it was good to get the kids involved with pre-match build-up. Still nobody deserved the abuse he was getting - our fans really do question me sometimes.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: tans on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:30:43
I wouldn’t message him directly as I assume some have done but at the same time it seems to have gone full circle on Twitter where you can’t criticise it and he should be thanked and applauded regardless.

I walked into the ground with a rendition of him singing “oh Harry McKirdy” it was just ridiculous. It was an embarrassing experience and was picked up by the Carlisle fans as sounding like a drunk guy had picked up the microphone.

Hanners seems a nice guy but he is another that seems to think he is the voice of the fans and that will always rub some up the wrong way. His mission to make Caddis manager was a case in point, he seemed a bit off when everyone else didn’t seem to share his enthusiasm.

There seems to be some troll who has appeared that is arguing with everyone over eveything! Most bizarre


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:32:57
I'm glad I missed the Hanners thing. He seems a decent bloke but it also seems cringey. Bad all round.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:35:20
There seems to be some troll who has appeared that is arguing with everyone over eveything! Most bizarre
‘Mark Stewart’. Would love to know who he really is as he clearly has too much time on his hands as it’s just relentless.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: kirky69 on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:36:36
With our injury problems and inability to defend crosses in to our box, particularly (but not exclusively) from corners, a play off finish now seems unlikely and my thoughts turn to next season.

With a decent coaching set-up now in place, I believe we have the makings of a decent group of young players most of who will have benefitted from a seasons experience at league 2 level.

The current players who are either contracted or who I would seek to get signed up at least for a further season are- Hutton, Lavinier, Minturn, Tomlinson, Clayton, Blake-Tracey, Brewitt (admittedly based on evidence of only 1 game), McEachran, Khan, Wakelin, Hepburn-Murphy.

Happy for following to be released: Darcy, Iandolo, Adeloye, Shade, Williams (contentious i know just feel he is too lightweight), Aguair, Roberts, Harries, Baudry, Cain, Devine ( too injury prone).

I suspect this will be Austins last season but would be a good influence if he wants to carry on as a squad option or part coaching role.

No interest in signing Jephcott or any of the other loanees, unless Brynn became available, which is highly unlikely.

Would need to then focus on recruiting a group of experienced players who add physicality, particularly to spine of the team i.e Goalie, Centre half, Central defensive midfielder and centre forward. Get the recruitment right and we may have  shout at automatics next time season.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:49:35
"Tom Brewitt admitted to deliberately injuring a team-mate in a bid to make his Liverpool debut
He faced competition from Dan Cleary for a starting spot in Jurgen Klopp's team
The 23-year-old said he would try and 'hurt' his team-mate in training sessions
Brewitt reveals he left Cleary on crutches for two weeks following his 'bad tackle"

Perhaps he's the "nasty" player we've been lacking!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:57:03
"Tom Brewitt admitted to deliberately injuring a team-mate in a bid to make his Liverpool debut
He faced competition from Dan Cleary for a starting spot in Jurgen Klopp's team
The 23-year-old said he would try and 'hurt' his team-mate in training sessions
Brewitt reveals he left Cleary on crutches for two weeks following his 'bad tackle"

Perhaps he's the "nasty" player we've been lacking!
Was covered in the transfer rumours last week mate, hes 7 years older now though so probably grown up a bit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 13:59:08
Personal abuse is absolutely not acceptable and having listened to the Tom Broadbent lounge podcast a couple of times, when I heard he was going to be doing the pre-match thing i didn't personally think it was a good idea, but I know a lot of people love his enthusiasm. It seems yesterday was just a case of getting carried away. The Carlisle fans/Harry McKirdy thing I think was a poor idea and if you are willing to stand in the middle of a pitch with a microphone in front of 10,000 people you have to expect some feedback. (not the ropey microphone kind)

Absolute fair fucks to him for having the cojones to do it and hopefully the occasion hasn't affected his mental health too much and he goes back to fronting the podcast that I know many fans enjoy.

This.

Don’t doubt the blokes intentions or his passion for STFC.

…but…I guarantee that if any other club had a fans podcast host trying to get chants going pre-match we’d all be calling it tinpot. I am surprised Sandro hasn’t had the blame for it though.

I get that atmosphere is an issue but there is only one way around that - and that’s to win football matches. Which we don’t do.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:01:07
Win football matches, play bigger teams / rivals who bring big away support which generates a decent atmosphere.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:02:38
Most players make mistakes at some point in their career, and I suspect he regrets this interview too. I'll judge him on how he performs and he massively exceeded expectation levels on first showing. Hard to think of many better individual defensive showings this year, which tells a story too! Here's hoping he continues to do well.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:03:46
Win football matches, play bigger teams / rivals who bring big away support which generates a decent atmosphere.

Completely agree. Hard to create an atmosphere with 72 away Harrogate fans. In recent years best atmosphere has been Plymouth, Exeter and Crewe home games where away attendances were decent and a lot on the line.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:04:41
Completely agree. Hard to create an atmosphere with 72 away Harrogate fans. In recent years best atmosphere has been Plymouth, Exeter, Crewe and Port Vale home games where away attendances were decent and a lot on the line.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:07:30
With our injury problems and inability to defend crosses in to our box, particularly (but not exclusively) from corners, a play off finish now seems unlikely and my thoughts turn to next season.

With a decent coaching set-up now in place, I believe we have the makings of a decent group of young players most of who will have benefitted from a seasons experience at league 2 level.

The current players who are either contracted or who I would seek to get signed up at least for a further season are- Hutton, Lavinier, Minturn, Tomlinson, Clayton, Blake-Tracey, Brewitt (admittedly based on evidence of only 1 game), McEachran, Khan, Wakelin, Hepburn-Murphy.

Happy for following to be released: Darcy, Iandolo, Adeloye, Shade, Williams (contentious i know just feel he is too lightweight), Aguair, Roberts, Harries, Baudry, Cain, Devine ( too injury prone).

I suspect this will be Austins last season but would be a good influence if he wants to carry on as a squad option or part coaching role.

No interest in signing Jephcott or any of the other loanees, unless Brynn became available, which is highly unlikely.

Would need to then focus on recruiting a group of experienced players who add physicality, particularly to spine of the team i.e Goalie, Centre half, Central defensive midfielder and centre forward. Get the recruitment right and we may have  shout at automatics next time season.

Thoughts?

I think Darcy & Shade have done enough to show there is something there and they would be worth giving another year (think they are both contracted anyway) before we make a definitive decision one way or the other.

Cain has only just got here so can’t see him going anywhere.

Austin & Williams really depends on Morris plans (if he’s still here) because I think you have to play to their strengths.

Austin needs to be in the box. So if you want to seriously press from the front it probably needs to be a 433 but we clearly want to use wing backs. Or you go 4231 and have Austin as the one and get the 3 behind him to do the leg work. Williams is probably best as the #10 in a 4231 as well. He isn’t a wide forward in a 433, he isn’t an out and out CM in a 433. He isn’t a winger for a 442 either.

He interesting to see if 352 is what Morris wants to play or whether 352 is what Morris had decided is the right way to go with who is available.

I’ve always thought it’s a shit formation tbh


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:11:04
Anyone read this

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/03/11/total-football-doesnt-work-in-league-2-our-view/


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:17:39
Only had to read the title.

Play to win. Doesn’t matter how.
This narrative that you have to play football a certain way is bollocks.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:25:08
…but…I guarantee that if any other club had a fans podcast host trying to get chants going pre-match we’d all be calling it tinpot. I am surprised Sandro hasn’t had the blame for it though.


You should blame Jody Morris as some sort of clever parody. Would be peak comedy that.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:29:40
Anyone read this

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/03/11/total-football-doesnt-work-in-league-2-our-view/

FGR won the league doing it last season didn't they?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:31:40
FGR won the league doing it last season didn't they?

Yes they did but had a settled team. What about this season?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:32:46
Yes they did but had a settled team. What about this season?

Completely irrelevant to my response to the article which you raise Jimmy.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:34:15
Mildly interesting fact - Ronan Darcy has the most appearances for us of any outfield player this season (if you add up starts and sub appearances) with 36 - 15 off the bench. He's been involved in every game apart from Harrogate and Carlisle right at the start of the season and then Plymouth in the PJT.

I remember last season being very "excited" by Jayden Mitchell-Lawson making more appearances as a sub in a single season than any Town player in history, ending up coming on 24 times. Both Shade (18 so far) and Darcy (15) have a decent shot at beating that his season.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:34:56
Completely irrelevant to my response to the article which you raise Jimmy.

I didn't pass judgment on the article just passed it was about STFC.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:40:10
I didn't pass judgment on the article just passed it on as that article was about STFC.

You've stated a few times that we need to sign bigger, more physical players, play in a certain way to get out of league 2 and so I assumed that article was to back up what you have been saying?

Only last season a team who were closer to playing 'total football' won the league easily. I guess I disagree with the article.

More than 1 way to skin a cat. :)


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 14:45:40
You've stated a few times that we need to sign bigger, more physical players, play in a certain way to get out of league 2 and so I assumed that article was to back up what you have been saying?

Only last season a team who were closer to playing 'total football' won the league easily. I guess I disagree with the article.


Are you sure they won the league easily as I thought they nearly blew it at the end!

Yep I stick with what you've quoted in my opinion we need to sign a few more bigger physical players who will give us experience, height for both penalty areas as we very rarely score from set pcs and concede too easily then it's up to the coaching to work out the best system to get results and not just mess around at that back and take chances because nearly every other team does. Play a passing game but in the right areas is what I want to see plus how often have teams bullied us this season because our team has been too lightweight?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: adje on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 15:09:41
Was covered in the transfer rumours last week mate, hes 7 years older now though so probably grown up a bit.
Aah, missed that!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 15:22:40
Not sure I'd want to see a team full of 6ft plus skinheads like one or 2 outfits in L2 but I understand the sentiment.

Grant wasn't the tallest & there will be technically good midfielders on the market this summer who can also have a dig at the opposition if required.

FBT is good in the air & a threat at set pieces but not a giant. Clayton handy as well & Brewitt.

Given the right coaching a smallish, mobile & technically very good midfield unit will run rings around most opponents in this league.
One moment in the first half yesterday when I think it was George, Cain & Williams who played through the Carlisle midfield with a couple of passes.
Could be exciting times on the horizon if Morris can imprint that on the squad.
Lot of work yet to do mind.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 16:20:46
Just a few older experienced additions throughout the squad to help the younger players!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 16:43:43
Last 2 games against the leaders and the 2nd. Conceded 3 goals - all from corners.

Not that I know much about coaching but I’d suspect that really shouldn’t be a too difficult thing to negate.

Orient created very few chances, likewise Carlisle. Cut out the basic errors and there you go!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 17:11:50
You can get out of this league playing a variety of styles.

A simple fix to our issue with defending set pieces is simple. Be better on the ball, play more in the oppositions half and then as a result we'll concede less set pieces and therefore give away less opportunities.

We don't need to be 'good' at that element of the game. Our problem is we concede too many and eventually one of them go in.



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 17:15:26
Something needs to change as we were messing around at the back under Williams, Garner & Lindsey!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 17:51:24
You can get out of this league playing a variety of styles.

A simple fix to our issue with defending set pieces is simple. Be better on the ball, play more in the oppositions half and then as a result we'll concede less set pieces and therefore give away less opportunities.

We don't need to be 'good' at that element of the game. Our problem is we concede too many and eventually one of them go in.



A simpler fix would be to learn how to defend set pieces


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 19:06:26
A simpler fix would be to learn how to defend set pieces

Yeah it's that simple. Why doesn't everybody just learn how to defend set pieces and then there won't be any scored ever in the Football League. Good idea.

We are a small side. It's always going to be a weakness in our game. We favour technical players over physical ones. it's not going to change.

Can we improve on set pieces. Yes. But the easier and much more simple solution is just to keep the ball away from our own goal. We conceded 18 corners combined vs Orient and Carlisle. That's asking for trouble with our squad no matter how much we practice them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: derbystfc on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 19:20:55
It's called 'making stuff up'.

Not really, its called forming and opinion on the information given, its called critical thinking


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Trashbat? on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 19:35:28
Bugger me, just looked on twitter. What is this outpouring of grief for that monstrosity before the game.

Anyone saying they didn’t enjoy it is being crucified, no wonder the club get away with so much shit. They are creating a cult of personality around it that wards off any negative feedback.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 19:56:26
Anyone saying they didn’t enjoy it is being crucified, no wonder the club get away with so much shit. They are creating a cult of personality around it that wards off any negative feedback.

Standard behaviour.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:02:10
Bugger me, just looked on twitter. What is this outpouring of grief for that monstrosity before the game.

Anyone saying they didn’t enjoy it is being crucified, no wonder the club get away with so much shit. They are creating a cult of personality around it that wards off any negative feedback.
It has gone way too far the other way now.

I’m not sure if my morals are out of whack or something but I don’t think there is anything wrong with expressing the opinion that it was embarrassing or cringe or of course the Carlisle fans taking the piss out of it. All this should have been expected, if he was expecting a universal pat on the back it was never going to happen.

If someone has made it personal they need calling out but that isn’t really what I’ve seen.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:12:48
Can someone explain what happened for those of us who weren't there yesterday.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:19:37
Can someone explain what happened for those of us who weren't there yesterday.
Hanners did the pre match stuff over the PA before the match, I think it’s fair to say it’s been divisive amongst fans in how it has been received, personally I thought it was embarrassing and feel that’s a valid opinion to have considering I walked into him singing “oh Harry McKirdy”

He’s now deleted his Twitter with the belief that he’s been hounded off it by a section of our fans. If it really has got personal then that’s our of order but if it’s because of people just tweeting it was embarrassing or cringe then I don’t really see what’s wrong with that, people are allowed to express an opinion, it’s not really insulting.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Trashbat? on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:21:03
Yes I agree, if someone made it personal that is out of order. But as you say, I didn’t see that I saw people calling it for what it was.

I actually think the club as always by their own inaction have ended up putting him in this position. They should know their fanbase and be able to create a pre-match atmosphere themselves.

The problem with expecting Hanners to do it, is that he has the ear of probably about 1000 fans through TSTBL, however there were probably 8000 people there yesterday who didn’t have a clue who he was. So they just thought he was a random who had got hold of the microphone. The old chap behind me who has been going for years kept shouting “shut up”

There is a huge amount that could be done to change the atmosphere before a game, but I can’t say I have seen the club even attempt to deviate from the usual playlist or entertainment to test the waters.

In fairness I think they did a good job engaging the youngsters yesterday. But the fans they need to get onside are the middle age to older fans. These are the ones booing and generally fed up with what is on offer. I don’t think the club is doing anything to connect with these people at all, yet that is realistically the bulk of their recurring season ticket holders.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:25:59
Hanners did the pre match stuff over the PA before the match, I think it’s fair to say it’s been divisive amongst fans in how it has been received, personally I thought it was embarrassing and feel that’s a valid opinion to have considering I walked into him singing “oh Harry McKirdy”

He’s now deleted his Twitter with the belief that he’s been hounded off it by a section of our fans. If it really has got personal then that’s our of order but if it’s because of people just tweeting it was embarrassing or cringe then I don’t really see what’s wrong with that, people are allowed to express an opinion, it’s not really insulting.

Cheers theakson I didn't know what had happened.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:42:35
Hanners did the pre match stuff over the PA before the match, I think it’s fair to say it’s been divisive amongst fans in how it has been received, personally I thought it was embarrassing and feel that’s a valid opinion to have considering I walked into him singing “oh Harry McKirdy”

He’s now deleted his Twitter with the belief that he’s been hounded off it by a section of our fans. If it really has got personal then that’s our of order but if it’s because of people just tweeting it was embarrassing or cringe then I don’t really see what’s wrong with that, people are allowed to express an opinion, it’s not really insulting.

I get this is the social media age and what not and this question isn’t aimed at you or anyone in particular.

But do people have to express their opinions? Just because people have the platform to doesn’t mean they should / have to. Like yeah peoples prerogative to find it cringe and embarrassing but do they really have to then post tweets to that effect? Couldn’t they have just kept their opinion to themselves?

I get that makes absolutely no sense seen as I’m positing it on a forum which is the archaic version of social media and we’ve all been critical of the players and plenty of others down the years in the public domain.

I barely know Hanners but surely he’s not stupid enough to think that whatever he did would have appealed to absolutely everyone? He must have known there would be differing opinions and they would be voiced….he’s also aware that Harry McKirdy doesn’t play for us and cost us a spot at Wembley !!


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:46:27
The ‘self appointed fans spokesman’ reputation never usually ends well does it, see Jay/GW Reds.

I only caught a few minutes of it, the Mckirdy crap aside I think it would have been fine if he didn’t join in with every chant and just let the crowd finish it off. Instead, it was like they’d pulled a drunk out of the CGH in an attempt to drum up some atmosphere.

To be fair, we are mid table in League 2 in what is likely to be one of our most forgettable seasons of all time, so I really don’t think the place is going to be bouncing pre-match regardless of what entertainment is on offer. In fact, I can probably count on one hand where there has been an atmosphere pre-match at the CG in recent years - Doyle’s return v Exeter, PV play offs the two that immediately come to mind…


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Trashbat? on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 20:49:20
Funnily enough I was only thinking about Jay and the GWR reds earlier. They have disappeared off the face of the planet, anyone know what happened? I recall seeing someone say at the start of the year they had a messy break up or something.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 21:21:08
Like many I have my own pre-match routine that doesn't see me into my seat until about 10 mins before kick off. A quick blast of Republica and I'm 'Ready to Go'. Not sure who is moaning about a lack of pre-game atmosphere. The occasion dictates that, and Harrogate at home (for example) ain't an occasion. Fair play to this chap for having a go but it is a hell of an ask to do something like that for any period of time without a fairly rigid programme of interviewees, presentations, games on the pitch etc. You'd have to be an expert level presenter to be simply be 'man with microphone' without it turning into a bit of a ramble. As I say, I missed it, but I'm never going to mock a well intentioned effort to make it better for everyone.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 12, 2023, 22:02:23
Having read the previous posts about ‘Hanners’ et al I now know what I witnessed yesterday. I don’t normally get into the ground before 14.50 so arriving at 14.35 was a nice surprise. I have no idea who this ‘Hanners’ chap is nor did I notice him until he was walking along the town end somewhere between 10-5 mins before the players came out. However, as the good Dr. mentioned it did seem the club had dragged out a pissed up stoner from the CG Hotel aided and abetted by a couple of impressionable kids. In my defence your honour, the two blokes in front of me stand up from the moment they get to their seat until virtually the ref blows his whistle so I see very little of what goes on, especially at half time. However on this occasion I needed to stretch my legs so stood up to see this ‘Hanners’ and the Cpl of kids before sitting down and thinking Jesus fucking Christ how embarrassing. On reflection I see what the club was trying to do but please, can they kind of refine it a bit? Personal abuse is not clever however.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, March 13, 2023, 06:15:59
Or just employ a professional stadium presenter on an ad hoc basis. You get what you (don't) pay for.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, March 13, 2023, 08:03:35
Not quite sure what the point of Hanners deactivating his personal twitter account is if he's just going to log into his podcast one and like all the comments supporting him.



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, March 13, 2023, 08:06:52
That newly appearing Troll, Mark Stewart, is now trying to denigrate and humiliate Vic Morgan.

Honestly, what’s the point in just spitting bile.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Monday, March 13, 2023, 08:23:13
Not sure if it's been mentioned but Clem's close agent associate Craig Moore was sat alongside him at the game. Whenever Craig has popped a pic of him and Clem together before, it's been around the time of appointments (Summer managerial search, January managerial search). It's probably just mere coincidence, or may add some credence to some of the Sandro murmurings.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 13, 2023, 08:36:54
Quote from: Pericardinho
Not quite sure what the point of Hanners deactivating his personal twitter account is if he's just going to log into his podcast one and like all the comments supporting him.

if he's getting personal abuse on his account I can understand it.

I'd imagine more than one person has access to the STBL account.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, March 13, 2023, 08:49:43
if he's getting personal abuse on his account I can understand it.

I'd imagine more than one person has access to the STBL account.

I mean, yeah, but I still think it's him.

This whole thing is a bit silly now anyway. People are entitled to call it Cringe, Embarrasing, Tin Pot etc. The same way people are entitled to praise him for trying something different.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, March 13, 2023, 08:59:23
But it’s different to say it’s cringe as a general post but, imo, it’s not acceptable to personally post shit directly.

Real piss boiler.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: tans on Monday, March 13, 2023, 09:07:11
Not sure if it's been mentioned but Clem's close agent associate Craig Moore was sat alongside him at the game. Whenever Craig has popped a pic of him and Clem together before, it's been around the time of appointments (Summer managerial search, January managerial search). It's probably just mere coincidence, or may add some credence to some of the Sandro murmurings.

SdM was nowhere to been seen saturday


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Monday, March 13, 2023, 09:12:49
SdM was nowhere to been seen saturday
I don't think he was at the Harrogate game either.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: DiV on Monday, March 13, 2023, 09:17:27
Out looking at players for next season …


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, March 13, 2023, 09:29:06
The faint ripple of derision in the TE as Carlisle scored the winner says it all.
For those that were grasping on to the last crumbs of hope that we could somehow sneak into the Playoffs...the game was up. Its mid table this season, like it or not.

My view is that i thought they were a better side but we seemed to match them in the first half.

Superb strike for the first goal after Key Stone Cop defending.

Notched a goal goal after Austin misses a sitter and looked on course for a well earned point (we do, however, need wins) and we fucking blew it big time.

I managed a village side in the Salisbury and District league and even i know how to see out the last few minutes/seconds of a game.
What makes it more painful is that we KEEP FUCKING DOING IT!!
STOP!!

When you need to bang it long or out....do it FFS!

Season has gone and its a shame as i was hoping we could kick on from last season. We had goodwill, good attendances and we fucked it up.

Credit to Carlisle for bringing good numbers like that, even though they are doing well.

Thats me missing due to holiday...back for the Mansfield game on Good Friday.

Its all a bit meh...



Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 13, 2023, 09:41:29
Particularly annoying that we have conceded unmarked headers from corners two week in a row.

I guess the top 2 are the top 2 because they have something about them though. So maybe they deserve some credit for creating space.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, March 13, 2023, 09:48:52
Particularly annoying that we have conceded unmarked headers from corners two week in a row.

I guess the top 2 are the top 2 because they have something about them though. So maybe they deserve some credit for creating space.

Defo a very good side.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Power to people on Monday, March 13, 2023, 13:19:22
SdM was nowhere to been seen saturday

Fixing the macro's in his spreadsheet for next season's U-23 team perhaps


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: RobertT on Monday, March 13, 2023, 13:39:29
Out looking at players for next season …

Wouldn't have thought so, he has never framed his role that way and we do still have a Scout.  Most clubs use freelancers for scouting anyway, I think.  Sandro will be the one identifying the talent for someone to then go and watch and then be the person negotiating with the various parties if we agree to sign a player.  He has zero experience in actual scouting though, even less than he has for the role he does do.

Knew a scout once upon a time, for Everton.  He was a PE teacher in Birmingham so they would use him to identify the youth talent at the school level.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: tans on Monday, March 13, 2023, 14:50:18
I heard  Les Caffrey has gone from the club recently by all accounts, not sure how true that is mind


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, March 13, 2023, 14:55:37
I used to like a pint of Caffreys.

I wonder if this and maybe the demise of Sandra was what Whelan was alluding to a few weeks ago. Hardly earth shattering, though.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, March 13, 2023, 15:00:51
Particularly annoying that we have conceded unmarked headers from corners two week in a row.

I guess the top 2 are the top 2 because they have something about them though. So maybe they deserve some credit for creating space.

Consistency.


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, March 13, 2023, 15:09:14
I used to like a pint of Caffreys.


Off topic but that bloody stuff used to give me a god awful thick head, can you actually get it anywhere any more?


Title: Re: Swindon v Carlisle
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 13, 2023, 15:13:34
Off topic but that bloody stuff used to give me a god awful thick head, can you actually get it anywhere any more?
Tasted like someone drank a pint of beer and spat it back into the can afterwards.