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Title: Sol Brynn
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, December 30, 2022, 16:59:39
I have been told that his season long loan still is a season long loan. In addition to that he will be available in the summer.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Qunk on Friday, December 30, 2022, 17:03:25
Would be great if we could keep him. Between him and Benda they are our best keepers since Fodders


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 30, 2022, 17:14:21
Let’s get it done in January if we can.
Probably have a few suitors come the summer if he’s available for free


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 30, 2022, 17:19:57
Let’s get it done in January if we can.
Probably have a few suitors come the summer if he’s available for free

Agreed and surely fits our 'model'. Can see him going for big money in the future.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Friday, December 30, 2022, 17:57:44
Assuming the original post is correct, we just need to hope nobody else has seen him play and he doesn't realise how good he is.

Then we might be in with a chance.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 30, 2022, 18:03:30
Presume we’ll need to get promoted to sign him. He’s obviously aware he’s capable of playing higher than L2.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, December 30, 2022, 18:11:01
Assuming the original post is correct, we just need to hope nobody else has seen him play and he doesn't realise how good he is.

Then we might be in with a chance.

Only repeating what I was told. Don’t shoot the messenger.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Boeta on Friday, December 30, 2022, 18:12:22
Presume we’ll need to get promoted to sign him. He’s obviously aware he’s capable of playing higher than L2.

There's not that many first team goalkeeper spots going in pro football.

If you can get one and the money is right, you'd be wise to take it.

Benda is playing for Swans now but spent 2 years sitting on the bench. Not all talented keepers will want to or benefit from that risk of being at a higher club


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, December 30, 2022, 18:14:14
Also goalkeepers tend to get better with age so could return to a bigger club in a few years.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, December 30, 2022, 19:19:30
your not benching brynn. hes no.1.
player of the season award and team of the year. there you go

I get most player predictions (yates/adebayo etc) wrong so il wack this in.

If he's out of contract does that mean clubs can speak to him now?

He is absolutely our model and why we need loan players. Its nice to have your own players but you will miss out on players of a higher calibre if you don't use the system. Fine balance required.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, December 30, 2022, 20:43:48
If he's available for a reasonable amount of money, it would be stupid not to buy him on a nice long contract. Be amazed if you don't make a profit down the line.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Nemo on Friday, December 30, 2022, 20:51:01
The only thing is that you just don't make money on goalkeepers. Our best keepers of the last 15 years or so (Foderingham, Vigs) all left on frees. Don't think we've sold a keeper for money since Mildenhall (well, Ward, but think that was fairly nominal).

Trying to think of a keeper sold for big money from the lower leagues and I'm coming up with a complete blank. Google tells me Paolo Gazzaniga from Gills to Southampton for £3m in 2012/13 - had no idea he was ever at Gillingham! Nobody else over £1m ever - Hart from Shrews was less, as was Joe Lewis.

I'd still go for him though!


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, December 30, 2022, 21:52:46
The only thing is that you just don't make money on goalkeepers. Our best keepers of the last 15 years or so (Foderingham, Vigs) all left on frees. Don't think we've sold a keeper for money since Mildenhall (well, Ward, but think that was fairly nominal).

Trying to think of a keeper sold for big money from the lower leagues and I'm coming up with a complete blank. Google tells me Paolo Gazzaniga from Gills to Southampton for £3m in 2012/13 - had no idea he was ever at Gillingham! Nobody else over £1m ever - Hart from Shrews was less, as was Joe Lewis.

I'd still go for him though!

i would say times have changed though. whilst goalkeeper transfers aren't as common for example those fees for the players mentioned would have been massive in todays market.

Foderingham ultimately left because he was too good for us but just by him playing for us we nearly made it to the championship and he would have stayed i'm sure. doing really again for sheffield utd this season


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: DMC on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 08:34:17
Pretty certain Boro have told him he is part of their plans next year


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 08:40:35
Got 18 months left on his contract


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Lardy Cake on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 09:12:21
I did note that when asked what his long term ambitions were in his recent interview he said he hoped he would be Middlesborough's number within a year. Can't blame him for being ambitious, he has the talent and he clearly thinks his future is with his parent club.
I have a feeling it's going to be a bit like last season where we are unable to keep our better loan players. At least we went out of the FA Cup early this time.   


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Laddy in Red on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 09:15:24
Hometown club, can't see him wanting to leave, especially now they're on the up.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Batch on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 09:29:51
Quote from: Lardy Cake
I have a feeling it's going to be a bit like last season where we are unable to keep our better loan players. At least we went out of the FA Cup early this time.   

This time though we only have FBT and Brynn as key loans. And I'm hopeful of keeping Brynn for the season

Brennan would be less of a loss simply because he's behind MacDonald and Clayton unless Lindsey insists on playing 3 at the back.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 11:34:49
Hometown club, can't see him wanting to leave, especially now they're on the up.
Well, yes and no.

I’m sure if Middlesbrough go up there’s no way Brynn would be their No. 1. And I’d hazard a guess that if they go might close but fall short, he won’t be in the next Championship season.

If we don’t go up, he’ll be loaned out to a L1 club to progress.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Lardy Cake on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 12:54:10
Just had a look at Middlesbrough's current stock of goalkeepers.
Their current first choice is American Zac Steffen who is on a season long loan from Man City. Second choice is ex Northampton Town keeper Liam Roberts who signed for them at the start of this season and has made 5 appearances so far. Luke Daniels, ex Brentford, is 18 months into a two year contract and would seem to be their third choice keeper but he hasn't made any appearances for them as yet. It appears that ex QPR keeper Joe Lumley was well out of favour last season and was loaned out to Reading for the season but he seems to be doing much better having appeared 22 times for them already this season.

With that sort of competition I can only see Sol Brynn being loaned out again next season to a League One club.
Bearing in mind how many players from our squad last season are now playing in higher leagues I do wonder how much better our player retention would be if we actually got promoted.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 13:11:02
I dont think we have a snowballs chance in hell of signing Sol Brynn on a perm deal.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 13:32:24
He must be on the radar of big league one clubs.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:16:47
I dont think we have a snowballs chance in hell of signing Sol Brynn on a perm deal.
Nor do I.

But, its quite reassuring that we have been able to either loan or obtain some pretty good keepers in the last few years. The only anomaly being Kovar and a few of the other 6-7 that year. Having said that, some were quite good!


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: DiV on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:21:13
I dont think we have a snowballs chance in hell of signing Sol Brynn on a perm deal.

Thought the same about Fods all those years ago.
Ultimately I guess it depends on how his parent club rate him.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:30:22
Nor do I.

But, its quite reassuring that we have been able to either loan or obtain some pretty good keepers in the last few years. The only anomaly being Kovar and a few of the other 6-7 that year. Having said that, some were quite good!
I draw your attention to these stars of the last 4/5 years at Swindon in goal to add to Kovar.
Reice Charles-Cook, Stuart Moore, Joe Fryer, Connal Trueman & Manny Idem.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:31:27
Thought the same about Fods all those years ago.
Ultimately I guess it depends on how his parent club rate him.
I don't think Fods was as highly regarded by Palace as Brynn is by Middlesborugh TBF, but yes stranger things have happened.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:37:10
I draw your attention to these stars of the last 4/5 years at Swindon in goal to add to Kovar.
Reice Charles-Cook, Stuart Moore, Joe Fryer, Connal Trueman & Manny Idem.
I was thinking more Vigouroux, Benda, McCormick, Travers, Wollacott & Ward.

Some better than others, but all were perfectly adequate lower league keepers at the time. You could potentially put Lee Camp in there as well, but, I think he was a significant step down on the other 6.


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: DiV on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:45:27
I don't think Fods was as highly regarded by Palace as Brynn is by Middlesborugh TBF, but yes stranger things have happened.

I can’t imagine, you or I (or anyone) have any idea how well regarded Fods was at Palace 11/12 years ago or how well regarded Brynn is a ‘boro right this second…


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:45:51
I was thinking more Vigouroux, Benda, McCormick, Travers, Wollacott & Ward.

Some better than others, but all were perfectly adequate lower league keepers at the time. You could potentially put Lee Camp in there as well, but, I think he was a significant step down on the other 6.
The ones you mention are definately decent keeper but the ones I mentioned cannot be classed as anywhere near good enough for even Confernce level!

You win some you badly lose some!


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:47:40
How's JoJo doing at Charlton or is he still injured🤔


Title: Re: Sol Brynn
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, December 31, 2022, 14:51:31
I can’t imagine, you or I (or anyone) have any idea how well regarded Fods was at Palace 11/12 years ago or how well regarded Brynn is a ‘boro right this second…
Going by scout reports which are available to see if you know the right people and through the PFSA scouting network database, Palace coaches at the time had suggested that Fods was not tall enough to become a decent keeper.

At Boro their manager Wilder recalled him from QotS last season to put him on the bench for some games and to see if he was progressing as good as he appeared to be in Scotland during his loan spell which suggests they rate him high enough to be 1st reserve keeper(at that time).