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Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, November 18, 2022, 18:13:42
Wahay let’s fuckkng have it. Four games a day in the group stage, what a time to be working from home


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 18, 2022, 18:55:43
As long as your productivity dosen't suffer🤣


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 18, 2022, 20:09:52
USA 🇺🇸. USA 🇺🇸.  USA 🇺🇸
Let the games begin!!
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :clap: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Friday, November 18, 2022, 20:11:05
Wahay let’s fuckkng have it. Four games a day in the group stage, what a time to be working from home

If it was the summer, and not being held in Qatar, I would be exceptionally jealous.

As it is, I will have no issue making my year 9 class work all the way through our lesson as the game kicks off. Sad times.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 18, 2022, 20:13:55
I see that in addition to the last minute beer ban, the paid shills have been told that they're not not getting paid. A bit funny, but more worrying that the organisers just feel they can renege on any agreement at any time.

Sadly it still all feels wrong to me. Wrong time, wrong place. Will watch some games I'm sure, but would usually be full on world cup fever and can't say I'm that up for it at all. Really feel for my Welsh friends that *this* is the one world cup they make.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, November 18, 2022, 20:14:37
As long as your productivity dosen't suffer🤣

If he works for any government agency you’ll not notice any difference.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Friday, November 18, 2022, 20:28:32
Have very little interest for this WC and the same must be the same for a lot of others judging by the lack of flag draped houses.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 18, 2022, 20:54:42
I have popped some St George's Cross bunting up on the front porch (yes, very American - think Stepford Wives, that is where I live, and I love it!).  I am sure the locals probably think it is some funky new Christmas guff for decorating the house.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, November 18, 2022, 21:22:41
I have popped some St George's Cross bunting up on the front porch (yes, very American - think Stepford Wives, that is where I live, and I love it!).  I am sure the locals probably think it is some funky new Christmas guff for decorating the house.

You’ll be fine as long as a jumped up privileged Labour MP doesn’t see it. Especially if you’ve a white SUV parked outside. God forbid anyone thinks you’re a ‘far right fascist republican’ voter. With a subscription to Horlocks guilty secret.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, November 18, 2022, 22:11:45
Oooop. LL has had a beer.

Not in my thread. Good vibes only


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, November 18, 2022, 22:12:06
Good vibes and anti-Qatar/fifa vibes only


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 18, 2022, 23:48:27
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
be fine as long as a jumped up privileged Labour MP doesn’t see it. Especially if you’ve a white SUV parked outside. God forbid anyone thinks you’re a ‘far right fascist republican’ voter. With a subscription to Horlocks guilty secret.

when do you go on holiday, and how long for?


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 18, 2022, 23:50:46
I work with lots of Welsh people. so don't you fucking dare lose England.

Poor old Southgate. Our second most successful manager yet seems pretty much hated.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 05:15:49
Who's the most hated as there's a few candidates 😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 05:40:46
Apart from their first game England KOs are 11pm here. Not sure I can be arsed to stay up to 1.00am to watch.

I genuinely hope the tournament falls flat on its face. Shame on FIFA for this one.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 07:22:23
You’ll be fine as long as a jumped up privileged Labour MP doesn’t see it. Especially if you’ve a white SUV parked outside. God forbid anyone thinks you’re a ‘far right fascist republican’ voter. With a subscription to Horlocks guilty secret.

What is your obsession with talking about Horlock?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 09:06:39
New three lions is good imo


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 09:56:20
 :clap: :clap: :clap:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRBLAHjkTo


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 11:51:23
Infantino might just be worse than Blatter. What a speech.

On the pitch, any predictions?

Think this will be a South American win, maybe Argentina. Not sure on golden boot but maybe Jamal Musiala as an outsider if it's not a Neymar/Messi.

Hope England have a respectable semi final exit. I don't want us to win this one, which I get is hubristic but I'll be really annoyed if the one win in my lifetime is this mess of a tournament.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 12:38:41
If England play to their obvious potential then a Quarter or Semi final place is on the cards.

We seem to be playing quite plodding possession based passing football lately though and not creating the chances we were only 2 years ago, we also look like conceding goals whenever the opposition attack (sounds like watching Swindon!).

If the planets are aligned then yes we could progess easily to the semis, but, personally I just dont see where the goals are coming from at the moment.

Brazil or Argentina to win it though.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 12:39:55
 really can't wait now

France to win


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 12:48:56
New three lions is good imo

Four lions?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 12:51:44
Brazil for me just think they will adapt to the heat plus have many quality players if they all click.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 13:05:28
 has there ever been a world cup where brasil have not been favourites ?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 13:11:53
In 2010 Spain were 4/1 favourites with Brazil second at 9/2. In 2018 Germany were the favourites at 9/2 with Brazil just behind at 5/1


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 13:13:52
has there ever been a world cup where brasil have not been favourites ?
I don't think so, even in 1966 they were 9/4 favourites with England 2nd on 9/2.

Although they have won 5 of the 21 previous World Cups they could be considered as under achievers also having been outright favourites in (AFAIK) every World Cup, they have only finished as losing finalists once as well.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 13:14:23
Really have not one ounce of excitement for this years World Cup.
Excitement levels complete zero so far


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 13:15:33
In 2010 Spain were 4/1 favourites with Brazil second at 9/2. In 2018 Germany were the favourites at 9/2 with Brazil just behind at 5/1
Equal favourites Jim.

Quote
England's odds to win the World Cup have been shortened following their favourable draw in Cape Town.

Fabio Capello's men are 11/2 (from 6/1) second favourites to win the trophy after being drawn against Algeria, Slovenia and USA in Group C. Spain and Brazil are joint favourites at 9/2.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 19, 2022, 13:16:36
Really have not one ounce of excitement for this years World Cup.
Excitement levels complete zero so far
TBH they are for me too mate, trying to get enthused but its not working yet.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 13:39:03
At least you get running water even if it is brown. Not bad for £175 per night🤣

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/63691286


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: tans on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 13:48:49
Be sods law that it is the one world cup nobody gives a fuck about and England end up winning it


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 13:55:51
I will celebrate it if we do. No worries


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 15:02:03
BBC starting coverage with the politics of the situation. Fair enough really. Infantino brought it up yesterday.

Plenty of time for the football later.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 15:49:22
Already a dodgy VAR decision. No reason for that goal to be wiped off.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 16:43:11
can't remember a worse opening game to any world cup

Equador aren't great, but pretty comfortable against this Sunday league (definitely not pub) team.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 17:03:51
Equador are far superior but still a hard watch along with Dion Dublins rambling.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 17:20:12
has there ever been a world cup where brasil have not been favourites ?

2002 when they won nobody was really talking about them winning it. All anyone could say was France or Argentina, neither of which made it past the groups.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 17:26:50
Qatar, as host nation, are devoid of any footballing ability which shows up the corrupt decision to award the tournament to them.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 17:29:52
Qatar, as host nation, are devoid of any footballing ability which shows up the corrupt decision to award the tournament to them.

Whilst your point about corruption is a fair one.
Not sure who hosts the WC has ever been decided on that nation being good at football.

I mean if the infrastructure is there then that Nation could / should be able to host.

Obviously that point doesn’t really work here.


…but…like you have F1 race tracks in countries that don’t even have any professional drivers representing them


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 17:35:19
Qatar beat Japan and South Korea in winning the Asia Cup. Not sure what that says about the standard of Asian football at the moment, but it's not promising.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 17:36:31
South Africa are the only host nation not to get out of their group.

No host nation has ever failed to win a group game.

Tournament football is a month long competition, Grand Prix is a one day thing. There is supposed to be a legacy from hosting a WC.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 18:21:00
That was a poor start to the tournament


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 18:37:32
That was a poor start to the tournament

Oh I don’t know. First get, first win thanks William Hill 😉😁


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Sunday, November 20, 2022, 18:43:21
I doubt Qatar will even score a goal. What a crap start and “fans” streaming out after half time.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 09:28:27
Let's hope England turn up and concentrate on the football.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: tans on Monday, November 21, 2022, 09:33:13
I see they have bottled wearing the armband due to threats of a booking


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, November 21, 2022, 09:44:32
Kind of understandable though, can you imagine if Kane got booked for it and then picked up a 2nd card later in the tournament to miss a knockout game?

Its a tournament in a shit country at a shit time of the year but i don't care now........it's football time


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 21, 2022, 10:08:10
I see they have bottled wearing the armband due to threats of a booking

I see the bookies had voided betting on Kane being 1st booked last night.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 10:10:58
You can't take the booking for that.

FIFA's true colours showing once again. Don't upset those holding the cheque book.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 21, 2022, 11:54:24
You can't take the booking for that.

FIFA's true colours showing once again. Don't upset those holding the cheque book.
100%, if that happens it blatantly again shows the corruption in FIFA.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 11:56:57
4-3-3 Pickford, Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw, Bellingham, Rice, Saka, Mount, Sterling, Kane.

Quite like that to be honest. I know Foden should be a key part of the team but he's never quite showed his City form for England to my memory. Glad to see we're not doing 3 at the back against a defensive side (no parallels to Town there!) and think there's probably an argument for that being the best central midfield in the tournament with France's injuries. 23, 23 and 19 as well. Bodes well for the future.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 21, 2022, 11:58:37
Who knew the goalkeeper is classed as the last man even if there is a defender behind him ref - Equador's disallowed goal for offside🤔


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:05:31
Who knew the goalkeeper is classed as the last man even if there is a defender behind him ref

Everyone, since forever.  Its always been '2 defending players' when the ball is kicked.



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:07:24
Everyone, since forever.  Its always been '2 defending players' when the ball is kicked.



I'll hold my hands and say that rule had passed me by😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:08:35
Everyone, since forever.  Its always been '2 defending players' when the ball is kicked.



Not everyone, the BBC pundits didn't understand the rules.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:10:40
Not everyone, the BBC pundits didn't understand the rules.

Pundits often don't seem to understand the rules, particularly when analysing VAR calls, they just talk about what they'd *like* the rules to be, which obviously has nothing at all to do with the refereeing calls on the day. It's a strange thing in football punditry where a lot of them seem to have no interest at all in learning the rules.

It's why in theory a referee on the panel would be helpful, although as Peter Walton proves weekly on BT, in reality they haven't got a clue either!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:23:45
Not everyone, the BBC pundits didn't understand the rules.

I thought it was more that it never looked anywhere near in doubt that there were 2 players at least level. VAR didn't really help with absolutely no info at the time and then a bit later a weird player graphic with no context whatsover as to where anyone else stood.

(I have seen an angle that shows it in a different light, I don't think they showed it at the time)

Its pretty much impossible to play football at any level and not know the rule.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:32:59
Mason mount singing Queen in the national anthem...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:34:49
Enormous fan of the winter world cup featuring a referee called Claus.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:38:52
Maguire rugby tackled.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: molepar on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:39:54
Mason mount singing Queen in the national anthem...
I spotted that too!  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:44:42
easily done!

even when we were singing it at the CG for the very reason Charles was king, it came out "qwing"


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:45:33
they've killed their own keeper

edit: wow, carrying on. that can't be right can it?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: molepar on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:50:47
easily done!

even when we were singing it at the CG for the very reason Charles was king, it came out "qwing"
Very true but we aren’t being filmed close up and broadcast to the nation! Doesn’t look like the Iran keeper is fit to continue!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:54:12
he's off.

that should have happened by protocol not left to the player


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:54:51
they've killed their own keeper

edit: wow, carrying on. that can't be right can it?

Fuck sake, how much injury time we gonna have at the end of the first half here.

Is it Jenas on co coms, getting right on my tit ends!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:02:12
I can see them using the Crewe playbook here


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:04:40
I can see us using the Swindon playbook here


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:09:47
goooooooooooooooal


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:10:15
Game on


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:18:24
goooooal #2


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:19:36
Great goal


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:21:30
gooooooal #3

win your first game, that's good enough


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:22:36
Keep em coming
14 mins injury time  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:22:44
into injury time...

14 minutes of


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:23:14
into injury time...

14 minutes of

Essentially 3-0 up after 31 minutes, which you'd have to say will do.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:26:08
into injury time...

14 minutes of

How much we should have had Saturday…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:35:57
Pretty decent so far from England.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:37:04
that'll do pig, that'll do.

it may 'only' be Iran. But we have more gears and we've done what needs to be done


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:38:17
Iran have had 46 accurate passes this half, compared to England's 366  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:39:35
it may 'only' be Iran. But we have more gears and we've done what needs to be done

I remember only Algeria, only Costa Rica and only USA...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:02:24
Buzzing after that first half

It is going to be a great world cup for england


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:11:46
Ffs, shit defending


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:20:28
Another well taken goal.


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:38:30
you can't tell much from this game, but it's worth pointing out that Iran are a world top 20 team.

24 minutes (total) injury time in the game. Blimey


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:41:19
Boring, boring England  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:43:00
you can't tell much from this game, but it's worth pointing out that Iran are a world top 20 team.

24 minutes (total) injury time in the game. Blimey
Should have had that much on Saturday


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:45:48
I cashed out 3-0, was debating 4-0 at £200 + when the cunts suspended the offer, seconds later Iran scored. Still with my wedge on a win and my return on cash out I’m level. I also had 5-0 and 6-0.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:47:10
Weak penalty decision


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:47:28
Love that they've VARed this after ignoring the one on Maguire that was a full bear hug...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:48:35
What the...

Give that but ignore Maguire's? VAR causes as many problems as it solves


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:51:24
Yet more proof that VAR isn’t working.

Fortunately the two mistakes so far haven’t influenced the results, but later in the tournament they might.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:56:23
Should have had that much on Saturday

For each half.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: molepar on Monday, November 21, 2022, 14:59:38
Good performance. Shame about conceding 2. Zero consistency with the VAR. Bellingham clearly has a bright future and he speaks well with maturity. Think the score line flattered Iran.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, November 21, 2022, 15:05:41
Too early to say yet, but I wonder if the timing of the WC will be more of a marginal gain for England than other sides given the number of domestic games played after a long season.

England looked anything but jaded today.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, November 21, 2022, 17:43:27
Is Johnny starting!?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: tans on Monday, November 21, 2022, 18:02:01
Is Johnny starting!?

No


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 18:02:29
It would be a surprise if Jonny played a minute at this WC. He's there for the vibes.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:10:16
USA look decent, Wales look shite.

Red card incoming sometime I reckon.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:14:00
Get in!!!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:15:19
Wales are lucky that it’s only 1-0, it’s OK having Bale in the team but he’s hardly touched the ball.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:17:58
so we beat USA.
Iran beat Wales

that would be perfect


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:19:25
Quote from: Godd002
Get in!!!

I've got a vision of you running around your house shouting U-S-A, U-S-A

That's what they get for leaving out Johnny Williams


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:26:24
Pulisic is the best player on the pitch.   Not sure that has ever been said when the US is playing     Finally developing real players


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:29:46
Get in!!!

😁


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:32:37
USA are lacking a good forward and play a little too frenetically to challenge the big boys - means they give possession back too easily against better teams.  Way better than Wales though.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: welshred on Monday, November 21, 2022, 19:39:05
Bake doesn’t look anywhere near fit, neither does Ramsey. Can’t find a pass. No physical presence up top. Would do far worse than getting Jonny on.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:05:56
Bake doesn’t look anywhere near fit, neither does Ramsey. Can’t find a pass. No physical presence up top. Would do far worse than getting Jonny on.

The real stars of this team are long past their best. Hope they do well, but the next generation really isn't at the same level at the moment.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:17:14
perfect result if it stays like this


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:28:57
The complete lack of ability or desire of the USA to control a game has made it quite fun though


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:37:30
We were poor tonight. Yanks the better team. Will take a point though. Bale was frustrating, but again pulls it out the bag.


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:41:28
Wales were the better team in the second half to be fair.

Ramsay and Bale look a little off it. Which is good for England


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:45:28
Wales were the better team in the second half to be fair.

Ramsay and Bale look a little off it. Which is good for England

Ramsay and Bale have looked off it for about 3 years.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Monday, November 21, 2022, 20:46:53
It would be a surprise if Jonny played a minute at this WC. He's there for the vibes.

We should have arranged a look a like to go to the WC and kept Williams in SN1


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, November 21, 2022, 21:38:28
Wales we’re fortunate to only be a goal behind at half time, but looked much the better team in the second half and deserved the draw


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Monday, November 21, 2022, 23:10:12
Sargent is a better forward than he showed.   The moment intimidated him.  I think England will come out against US Friday and win easily.  They will be wales for sure.  So probably comes down to goal differential for US and wales to move on


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 00:08:11
Sargent is a better forward than he showed.   The moment intimidated him.  I think England will come out against US Friday and win easily.  They will be wales for sure.  So probably comes down to goal differential for US and wales to move on

Think you’re right. Second place is up for grabs.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 00:22:36
USA looked like world beaters in the 1st half and really should have been out of sight on the score board.
That said, Wales could and possibly should have won it in the 2nd half.
Really enjoyed the game and a very good result for England.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 06:23:16
Pulisic is the best player on the pitch.   Not sure that has ever been said when the US is playing     Finally developing real players

He'll be getting out the frustrations of Zack Wilson's performance on Sunday.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 07:48:28
Tell you what books my piss. Not just the WC but any kind of ‘event’ that’s covered by the media, the only thing they can think of doing is going to so-and-so’s old school to listen to a bunch of excruciating brats singing some pathetic song in their screechy voices.

#grumpyoldtwat#


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 08:05:17
you've been watching the BBC haven't you Aud .

Did smirk when they kid said he's supporting England, but was made to wear a Wales shirt and sing the song.

Can't blame him really, on TV and with his classmates.

it's a bit thing for Wales to be fair, might be another 60 odd years to the next one


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 08:08:19
Oh, yes. The BBC. The perpetuators. Their never ending obsession with primary schoolchildren to bolster a new story.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 08:25:57
Ah see what you mean, kids at Gareth Barry's former school singing along with the PE teacher and story's about him :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 08:41:00
Ah see what you mean, kids at Gareth Barry's former school singing along with the PE teacher and story's about him :girlgiggle:

They should ask the kids if they know of any involvement between Gareth and investment at STFC.

:)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 08:51:13
so today

Argentina v Saudi Arabia (10, ITV)
Denmark v Tunisia (1, ITV)
Mexico v Poland (4, ITV)
France v Australia (7, BBC)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 09:37:34
Go Saudi  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 09:47:24
Go Aussie! Does Luongo still play?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:07:29
I'm only following via text updates so haven't seen what the Argentina penalty was awarded for but from what I have read, that's the second penalty that VAR has now awarded for grappling/shirt pulling in the box from a set piece. I'm hopeful that because of these awards that there will be less of this kind of thing happening - McGuire could also have had a penalty yesterday (looked 50/50 to me) but it looks like a dangerous precedent for defenders going forward now.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:09:12
I'm only following via text updates so haven't seen what the Argentina penalty was awarded for but from what I have read, that's the second penalty that VAR has now awarded for grappling/shirt pulling in the box from a set piece. I'm hopeful that because of these awards that there will be less of this kind of thing happening - McGuire could also have had a penalty yesterday (looked 50/50 to me) but it looks like a dangerous precedent for defenders going forward now.

Yes, the Argentinian penalty was for holding in the box.

Both those that have been given were much less of a foul than the one on Maguire


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:11:45
Three offside goals for Argentina, is Thomas Dossevi involved in their set up?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:27:31
Isn't the normal corrupt approach to under report crowds?

The official attendances of each game at the World Cup so far.
Qatar vs Ecuador - 67,372 (Stadium capacity = 60,000)
England vs Iran - 45,334 (Stadium capacity = 40,000)
Senegal vs Netherlands - 41,721 (Stadium capacity = 40,000)
USA vs Wales - 43,418 (Stadium capacity = 40,000)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:37:06
Isn't the normal corrupt approach to under report crowds?

The official attendances of each game at the World Cup so far.
Qatar vs Ecuador - 67,372 (Stadium capacity = 60,000)
England vs Iran - 45,334 (Stadium capacity = 40,000)
Senegal vs Netherlands - 41,721 (Stadium capacity = 40,000)
USA vs Wales - 43,418 (Stadium capacity = 40,000)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20489180/qatar-world-cup-announce-67000-fan-attendance-stadium-60000/


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:47:52
Well, this is a little bit funny. I'd prefer my plucky underdogs not to be representing sociopathic oil barons, but beggars can't be choosers.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:50:35
Well, this is a little bit funny. I'd prefer my plucky underdogs not to be representing sociopathic oil barons, but beggars can't be choosers.
The USA played yesterday ;)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:52:11
That wasn't supposed to happen.

Plenty of time for Argentina yet though. Is it just the 3 disallowed goals? Its on in the background so no idea if there was any contraversial VAR descisions..


Holy fuck. What a goal from the Saudi man. 2-1


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:52:13
Holy fuck.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:53:01
Haha


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:01:32
Starting to enjoy this world Cup  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:02:54
This is throughly entertaining


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:20:42
I predict at least 10 minutes of injury-time. Shame we didn't have this ref against Crewe!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:30:31
8 minutes of added time, come on you Saudis!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:32:19
Saudi players smiling on the pitch😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:32:33
 :pint:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:32:40
78 minutes of added on time so far in 5 games!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:34:16
Time to have a visible clock on display like Rugby Union.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:34:31
"Every trick in the playbook is being used" as the replay shows a player taking a flying knee to the face. Not ideal timing on an otherwise fair comment!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:38:21
Time to have a visible clock on display like Rugby Union.

That stops everytime there is fannying around with free kicks, corners, etc thus ensuring that 45 mins of actual football happens


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:42:53
Nice!! Well done Saudi's  :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:43:12
Fuck you Maradonna and your hand of God you Argie fucks, you were all beaten by the hand of Allah!

That has to be one of THE biggest upsets in World Cup history, fair play to the Saudis, ignore the politics and religion (yes despite my first comment but Diego started that one!) this is what all cups are about, the plucky underdog biting the big boys on the nuts.

This rightly can enter into this prestigious lot.

https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/soccer/news/biggest-world-cup-upsets-ranking-top-10-results-history/cr0fwtyq5kamkyzpbqxhyjj0


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:48:29
Herve Renard is absolute tournament magic.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:49:28
That was an absolute defensive masterclass from the Saudi’s.

Let Argentina have the ball deep. They won every header going and when they needed to put their foot through it they absolutely fucking booted the living daylights out of it (take note Swindon)

Although it was offside in the build up that header off the line was immense.


…I know the debate about Ronaldo and Messi is endless but I’ve always felt Ronaldo has a much more galvanising effect on the players around him where as Messi just struts around trying to be Messi.

If it wasn’t for the fact he’s so short - you could have mistaken him for Iandolo today.

Glad I stayed up to watch that


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:51:11
It's great isn't it.
Can't think of any scenario where Argentina v Saudi Arabia would be of interest to non-partisan fans other than at a world cup.
Well deserved win in the end.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:52:13
Let's hope Mexico beat them in their next game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:53:29
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
 :oops:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:53:58
Let’s also not lose sight of the fact Saudi Arabia are ranked 31 places below Iran - who we despatched with ease yesterday


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 12:01:37
fair fucks. The Saudis were excellent in the second half.

Will Argentina go out? I doubt it. But makes them sweat a bit


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 12:05:29
Let’s also not lose sight of the fact Saudi Arabia are ranked 31 places below Iran - who we despatched with ease yesterday

Doesn't that just prove that the ranking system is bollocks, Iran, USA and Wales all top 20 and to date all looked pretty useless.

Iran yesterday made RSA look like Brazil today.

fair fucks. The Saudis were excellent in the second half.

Will Argentina go out? I doubt it. But makes them sweat a bit

I was dipping in and out of it, but once they got a foot in the game they looked incredibly organised and strong, on the top of the high quality shit housing as the game went on.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 12:42:15
That was an absolute defensive masterclass from the Saudi’s.

Let Argentina have the ball deep. They won every header going and when they needed to put their foot through it they absolutely fucking booted the living daylights out of it (take note Swindon)

Although it was offside in the build up that header off the line was immense.


…I know the debate about Ronaldo and Messi is endless but I’ve always felt Ronaldo has a much more galvanising effect on the players around him where as Messi just struts around trying to be Messi.

If it wasn’t for the fact he’s so short - you could have mistaken him for Iandolo today.

Glad I stayed up to watch that
Not having a go, but do you have to keep putting the boot into Iandolo.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 13:18:12
Doesn't that just prove that the ranking system is bollocks, Iran, USA and Wales all top 20 and to date all looked pretty useless.

Iran yesterday made RSA look like Brazil today.

I was dipping in and out of it, but once they got a foot in the game they looked incredibly organised and strong, on the top of the high quality shit housing as the game went on.

I thought Iran out qualified Saudi Arabia?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 14:12:28
I thought Iran out qualified Saudi Arabia?

No idea, the way they played yesterday I was not convinced some of the Iran players had actually played football before.

But they are a lot braver than many players in their convictions https://twitter.com/NasimiShabnam/status/1594798580983799818


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 14:39:48
Interesting article about the extra time in games being so large.

https://www.90min.com/posts/why-is-there-so-much-injury-time-at-the-world-cup/partners/35681


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 15:07:54
Fuck you Maradonna and your hand of God you Argie fucks, you were all beaten by the hand of Allah!

That has to be one of THE biggest upsets in World Cup history, fair play to the Saudis, ignore the politics and religion (yes despite my first comment but Diego started that one!) this is what all cups are about, the plucky underdog biting the big boys on the nuts.

This rightly can enter into this prestigious lot.

https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/soccer/news/biggest-world-cup-upsets-ranking-top-10-results-history/cr0fwtyq5kamkyzpbqxhyjj0

Fucked my accumulator well and truly. Messi's shite  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 16:25:19
Last 3 halves have been very dull


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 17:19:36
Last 3 halves have been very dull

At least United have sacked Ronaldo to give us some afternoon content.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 17:34:52
lewanflopski

mwhahaha..feel my punnage


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 17:35:56
Quote from: Nemo
At least United have sacked Ronaldo to give us some afternoon content.

not sure which party will be happier tbh


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 18:47:00
Get in, Aussie!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 19:13:13
that didn't last long enough.

I didn't realise it has been 3 years since luongo was last capped, and has yet to play for boro


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 20:11:42
that didn't last long enough.

I didn't realise it has been 3 years since luongo was last capped, and has yet to play for boro

Out of contract in a few weeks - sign him up!

Obviously we can't afford him but we can guarantee that he'd walk into this team and he's mates with Gladders.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 21:24:44
Absolutely no chance.

He couldnt wait to fuck off the last time he was here anyway


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 21:47:54
Unfashionable pensioner, understudy in his squad for Euro footballer of the year and "golden boot" , quietly steps in to win match and equal his country's all time scoring record.  


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 07:47:35
Today's games

Morocco v Croatia 10am, ITV
Germany v Japan 1pm, BBC
Spain v Costa Rica, 4pm, ITV
Belgium v Canada, 7pm, BBC


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 08:19:47
Absolutely no chance.

He couldnt wait to fuck off the last time he was here anyway

Talented footballer in wanting to progress in his chosen career shocker!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 11:09:29
Talented footballer in wanting to progress in his chosen career shocker!

Its a strange one isn't it though, joined Boro in September but seems to have been so unfit that even after c.3 months not considered fit enough to get into the team, spose if he train swell and then plays his arse off in the couple of post world cup games for Boro I would imagine they will offer him an extension anyway.

Whatever happens can't see him dropping another 2 divisions.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 11:27:45
Morocco fans seem to be having a great time watching this game, can't say I feel the same.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 11:33:24
Gave this on a work enforced miss. Seems like a good thing.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 11:34:31
Work getting in the way🤣


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:05:41
Talented footballer in wanting to progress in his chosen career shocker!

Ways of going about it though. See Simon Cox for ways of keeping your head down, performing and doing it with class.

Luongo and Kasim were too giant bags of shite from the moment they started getting international call ups.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:05:56
Morocco fans seem to be having a great time watching this game, can't say I feel the same.

Wasn't a classic. Let's see what mood ze Chermans are in.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:10:34
Luongo and Kasim were too giant bags of shite from the moment they started getting international call ups.
Very often is the way when a player gets called up for the 1st time at a smaller club, they have their heads turned and want some of the wages and lifestyle of the team mates.

Luckily Joniesta was already an established player so hasnt been affected the same, although he is a massively humble and very nice chap.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:24:10
Ways of going about it though. See Simon Cox for ways of keeping your head down, performing and doing it with class.


The Simon Cox who inspired this classic?

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:43:04
yyyyyyeeer

booooooo, offside


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:44:00
The Simon Cox who inspired this classic?

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0

i looked at page 1. then this comment scared me and didnt want to read any more:

broke through on the right,had pook inside in acres and decided to carry on running with the ball and lost it


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:44:39
Quote
The Simon Cox who inspired this classic?

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0 (https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0)
And after 1 mediocre football trophy performance.

Fred was right at the time. Cox was pre-moaning in case he didn't get picked. Hence the reaction

it just happened to be very wrong a week or two after, and Cox didn't need to knock the managers door thereafter


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:45:23
The Simon Cox who inspired this classic?

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0

Not like Swindon fans to write someone off.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 12:48:56
What is with this stupid whistle from the crowd in the Germany vs Japan game?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 13:50:15
German kit is lovely, isn't it?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:03:14
Not like Swindon fans to write someone off.
Not all of us wrote him off so early ;)

I dont think he will come back to us on loan but I would love to be proved wrong the guy is class at this level.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:14:09
iiiii'm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMww


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:20:19
Oh boy. This start to the tournament feels like it's come straight out of an England fan's dream!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:20:44
Hell of a touch and finish.

And where were the Germans? Frankly, who cares.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:25:00
Hell of a touch and finish.

And where were the Germans? Frankly, who cares.

I'm sure they will equalise in the 12th minute of injury time!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:26:42
I'm sure they will equalise in the 12th minute of injury time!

Ha, there are only 7 minutes. They'll equalise in the 7th minute. Jokes on you


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:30:41
Fucking 'ell, not been watching but just checked score.....


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:34:48
WOW!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:36:44
Christ fahrt am Rad.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:42:24
There has been some stinkers of course but it's been a really enjoyable spectacle on the pitch so far. Long may it last.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:44:48
Again, a deserved win.
Germany looked sluggish. Caught out by a long ball.
Musiala looks a player.

Time for a tea ceremony.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 14:49:49
England score six
Argentina lose to Saudi
Germany lose to Japan

Somewhere, there is an England fan with a lamp who has gone much too early here...


There has been some stinkers of course but it's been a really enjoyable spectacle on the pitch so far. Long may it last.

Has there been a "good" game yet? It's all crackers or stinkers. Maybe US v Wales was alright?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 15:03:56
England score six
Argentina lose to Saudi
Germany lose to Japan

Somewhere, there is an England fan with a lamp who has gone much too early here...


Has there been a "good" game yet? It's all crackers or stinkers. Maybe US v Wales was alright?

Great point. I guess US v Wales wasn't a cracker, but it was one of those games that was intriguing even though it wasn't a cracker.

Oh, and whilst I think about it, I love McCoist as a co-commentator as much as I dislike Hartson.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 15:34:09
Spain have the right answer for national anthems - music, no words.

Costa Rica - not so much. Way too long.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 15:37:51
Spain have the right answer for national anthems - music, no words.

Costa Rica - not so much. Way too long.

One of only 4 national anthems with no words.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 15:41:01
Be interesting what they claim the attendance of this Spain Costa Rica game is, seem to be a fair few empty seats.  


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 15:56:30
There’s a dreadful trumpeter somewhere in the crowd.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 15:57:56
Spain doing their job a bit better than Argentina or Germany - so far.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 17:34:59
Spain doing their job a bit better than Argentina or Germany - so far.

To be fair, absolutely anyone could put loads past Costa Rica. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25285354)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 17:46:59
To be fair, absolutely anyone could put loads past Costa Rica. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25285354)
To be fair absolutely anyone should be scoring loads against Saudi. Never that easy


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 17:48:34
um, Germany are under pressure big time.

Japan will surely get 6 points.

Remind me, is it head to head that counts in group?

edit: nope. goal diff in world cup. Booo


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 18:08:10
The Simon Cox who inspired this classic?

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0

…one of my favourite threads ever


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 18:18:31
What is Vincent Kompany doing in Qatar as a pundit.
Has he given the Burnley players the month off? Are they not training or has he just got his coaches doing it?
Strange.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 18:55:12
um, Germany are under pressure big time.

Japan will surely get 6 points.

Remind me, is it head to head that counts in group?

edit: nope. goal diff in world cup. Booo

Spain will probably beat Germany 4-0 on Sunday.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 19:59:53
a draw would do tbh


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 20:23:12
Canada very unlucky but just missing that bit of quality


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 22:18:37
What is Vincent Kompany doing in Qatar as a pundit.
Has he given the Burnley players the month off? Are they not training or has he just got his coaches doing it?
Strange.

Not all managers take training to be fair. But you'd expect them to be there and observe.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 23:52:23
Not all managers take training to be fair. But you'd expect them to be there and observe.

In this day and age it’s probably all recorded.
He could have even been watching via a live link


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 07:48:36
Today we have

Switzerland v Cameroon 10am, ITV
Uruguay v South Korea 1pm BBC
Portugal v Ghana 4pm ITV
Brazil v Servia 7pm, BBC


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 08:47:40
Today we have

Switzerland v Cameroon 10am, ITV
Uruguay v South Korea 1pm BBC
Portugal v Ghana 4pm ITV
Brazil v Servia 7pm, BBC

Potentially the best day so far?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 09:06:51
Not all managers take training to be fair. But you'd expect them to be there and observe.

Imagine the players will be having 1-2 weeks off and Kompany won't be there in Qatar for the whole tournament.

It was worth him being there just for his Ronaldo comment!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 09:20:12
Quote from: Abrahammer
It was worth him being there just for his Ronaldo comment!

definitely


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 09:28:25
Potentially the best day so far?

That's 4 0-0 then :)

Have to say I'm not that bothered by today, Brazil are worth a look I suppose :) But we've had some crackers so far that 'on paper' looked pointless - thanks Japan and Saudi - so who knows.

Very much looking forward to Sunday's Spain v Germany - OK, who isn't. Outside of Germany anyway.

Got a morbid curiosity on how Qatar will stand up v Senegal tomorrow too. And Wales v Iran. And there's some other team colony playing England. Tomorrow looks great to me.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 09:51:57
Think this one could be a good game.

Two probably even matches teams both of whom might fancy themselves for second place in the group if they win.

A draw probably helps neither


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 10:07:35
Imagine if USA were to beat England that would potentially make the Wales game a must win.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Boy About Town on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 10:24:40
Imagine if USA were to beat England that would potentially make the Wales game a must win.

Lay off the pipe Jimmy


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 10:26:44
Lay off the pipe Jimmy

A couple of shock results so far🤣


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 11:15:15
It’s about time England beat the USA in the World Cup, haven’t managed it in the last two attempts


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 11:21:12
I agree it's about time England beat them :pint:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 11:23:19
29 Jun 1950  USA v England L 0-1 FIFA World Cup
08 Jun 1953  USA v England W 6-3 International Friendly
28 May 1959 USA v England W 8-1 International Friendly
27 May 1964 USA v England W 10-0 International Friendly
16 Jun 1985  USA v England W 5-0 International Friendly
09 Jun 1993  USA v England L 0-2 US Cup
07 Sep 1994 England v USA W 2-0 International Friendly
28 May 2005 USA v England W 2-1 International Friendly
28 May 2008 England v USA W 2-0 International Friendly
12 Jun 2010  England v USA D 1-1 FIFA World Cup
15 Nov 2018 England v USA W 3-0 International Friendly

TBF we have a pretty decent record vs the US overall in international games.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 11:37:01
'Meh' first game. Didn't think Cameroon showed enough 'joie de v'ivre' to get anything out of that game. I fancied the Swiss to surprise many before the WC.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 11:44:10
What is Vincent Kompany doing in Qatar as a pundit.
Has he given the Burnley players the month off? Are they not training or has he just got his coaches doing it?
Strange.

The BBC seem to have a cast of thousands punditing out there so I wonder whether he is only out there for  short while?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 11:55:27
Huge fan of Uruguay having two centre-backs aged 36 and 35. No substitute for experience. Godin has 160 international caps!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 12:25:25
Huge fan of Uruguay having two centre-backs aged 36 and 35. No substitute for experience. Godin has 160 international caps!

South Korea's back line are all called Kim! And they have another one on the bench. It will be interesting to see how the commentators differentiate.

1   Kim Seung-gyu
15 Kim
4   Kim
19 Kim Young-Gwon
3   Kim



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 12:28:24
Done a treble of S. Korea, Portugal and Brazil - 8/1


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 14:17:58
TBF we have a pretty decent record vs the US overall in international games.

Overall yes, but a draw & a defeat in our two World Cup matches


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 14:18:43
Of what I’ve seen of Uruguay & Korea it’s been a bit shit


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 14:40:43
Some of the 0-0s haven't been that bad. That one was though.

Now, from one talented side with a statue up front living off his reputation... to Portugal, who I'm sure will be very different.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 15:10:58
Some of the 0-0s haven't been that bad. That one was though.

Now, from one talented side with a statue up front living off his reputation... to Portugal, who I'm sure will be very different.

The official stats said there were zero shots on target, the first time ever since these stats began, the worst previously was Portugal v Ivory Coast which had 2


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 15:27:25
Of what I’ve seen of Uruguay & Korea it’s been a bit shit

I watched the last ten minutes and the wash up...look like i saw the best of it!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 15:40:01
Kane declared fit, apparently (edit: oh, 6 hours ago)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63738269


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 16:15:54
It’s been very poor fare so far today. Much as it usually is in first games at a WC.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 16:37:52
@jj, all that is well and good, but we are on ITV tomorrow therefore a good record means nothing


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 16:50:42
come in Ghana. Can't stand Portugal


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 16:55:26
soft penalty


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 16:56:27
soft penalty

So soft.

JoJo would have saved it.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 17:07:18
They just mentioned Jojo on comms. Ghana now level. Lovely stuff.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 17:14:58
soft penalty

His other skills may be diminishing, but his ability to fall over remains one of the best of all time.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 17:33:40
What an ending. The Ghana player that snuck behind the 'keeper needs better studs.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 17:34:15
I enjoyed it! Ghana so nearly mugged the Portugal keeper at the end there. shame


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 17:34:48
I enjoyed it! Ghana so nearly mugged the Portugal keeper at the end there. shame

Slipped at the vital moment! That would have been hilarious!!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 19:23:55
I only ever watch Brazil in the World Cups and they are usually up their as favourites and always regarded as a top team in the world but I swear it’s been about 20 years since they last had a top quality team.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, November 24, 2022, 20:07:15
20 minutes later and Brazil score such a Brazil like goal.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 02:04:45
I..
I believe…..
I believe that we will….
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!

Go USA!!!!

 :clap: :clap:




Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, November 25, 2022, 05:27:54
I..
I believe…..
I believe that we will….
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!

Go USA!!!!

 :clap: :clap:




Belated Happy Thanks Giving Day. Sorry I cannot be as charitable about tonight’s game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, November 25, 2022, 05:47:43
I..
I believe…..
I believe that we will….
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!

Go USA!!!!

 :clap: :clap:




I unironically love this chant

You won’t though. I feel it’s going to be between you and the welsh on GD as to who gets through


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 09:19:40
Wales Iran, draw please.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 09:52:47
That looked a mile offside in real time.

Edit: and it was.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:03:26
I..
I believe…..
I believe that we will….
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we will win!

Go USA!!!!

 :clap: :clap:



Too much Thanksgiving turkey methinks!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:07:23
They need their cheerleaders😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:09:06
Wales have their backs to the wall.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:12:19
Wales have their backs to the wall.

Need to get Jonny W and his massive smile on to lift the team!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:12:26
Jonny will be back by next Saturday at this rate, Wales looks awful.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:14:44
I've only seen the second half and Wales have been really poor.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:16:42
Need to get Jonny W and his massive smile on to lift the team!

They're saving him for the must win game v England!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:21:59
That is such a red card, top comedy reffing. He's absolutely Schumachered it.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:22:31
It didn't need to go to VAR😀

vuvuzela's are making a lot of noise!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:30:25
Quote from: Jimmy QuitMoaning
I've only seen the second half and Wales have been really poor.

they were more competitive in the first half, but Iran very unlucky not to win this


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:31:25
Considering Wales have been pretty crap and overrun in midfield all game, why take a midfielder off?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:31:37
Maybe the heat has sapped their energy.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:32:22
Considering Wales have been pretty crap and overrun in midfield all game, why take a midfielder off?

It's not like Ramsey has done anything. Think the logic is they'll only score now on the counter or from a set piece, so the quick lads + Moore are essential. Don't think you can play with 10 including Bale and Ramsey, so one of them had to go.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:33:57
Oh my, get in :pint:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:34:44
Quote from: Batch
they were more competitive in the first half, but Iran very unlucky not to win this

or, indeed, not


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:35:18
Cruel on Wales, but Iran have absolutely deserved the win.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:36:48
 :pint: :pint: :pint:

Taffs won't be laughing in the changing rooms🤣


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:38:27
That 6-2 looks alright, doesn't it?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:40:21
Ah well. At least Joniesta will be back a bit earlier.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:41:06
Ah well. At least Joniesta will be back a bit earlier.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5Se-9XAVE


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:42:15
Wales arguably playing with 10 before the sending off with Bale on the pitch.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:43:00
JW on the first flight back to England, please. TIA.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:43:37
Karma boyos, remember the celebrations by the Wales squad when England lost to Iceland.

Not laughing quite so much now then 😂


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:44:30
Wales arguably playing with 10 before the sending off with Bale on the pitch.

I thought that Iran fully deserved that and their talismen of Bale and Ramsey were exceptionally poor. Ramsey at least got involved, but most of what he did was bad and Bale was just non-existent.

Hartson called Bale a genius in the last game, he was definitely a dunce in this one.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:46:38
Oh boyo


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:50:22
Hartson called Bale a genius in the last game, he was definitely a dunce in this one.

The strange thing with Bale is they talk about him like he is some sort of veteran, he really isn't that old, albeit I suspect much like Michael Owen as a huge part of what was so special about his game was pretty much purely his pace and once that's gone he is pretty average on a world stage.

Iran looked like a different team compared with when they played us, good on 'em!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:50:51
Karma boyos, remember the celebrations by the Wales squad when England lost to Iceland.

Not laughing quite so much now then 😂


Ah let's be fair, that was pretty funny. We've all laughed at Saudi beating Argentina and Japan beating Germany, gotta take our own hits too.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:55:29
be nice if jonny came on as part of the 5 subs in the last game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 11:58:20
After today's performance he may have  a chance of starting.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 12:06:16
I thought that Iran fully deserved that and their talismen of Bale and Ramsey were exceptionally poor. Ramsey at least got involved, but most of what he did was bad and Bale was just non-existent.

Hartson called Bale a genius in the last game, he was definitely a dunce in this one.

Bale all but retired as a top level footballer a few years back.
Once he was massively out of favour at Madrid he just treated as a nice long holiday.

He should have got straight out gone after regular game time.

Then once he was finally out of for contract he moved to a retirement league.
Sure he’s lost some of his pace but he always had a bit more to him than that.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 12:13:05
Joe Allen, Ramsay and Bale are past it, legs wise. Age is but a number

They deserve to play in the world cup for getting them there though. And imagine the flack for taking them off.

Wales aren't done, especially if we beat USA and qualify so we can blood some squad players at some point on Tuesday. But it's out of their own hands. 

I don't think the group is done yet


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 12:14:51
Ah let's be fair, that was pretty funny. We've all laughed at Saudi beating Argentina and Japan beating Germany, gotta take our own hits too.

If it was piss taking from the fans then I’d agree, the players not so much so.

Would we find it as amusing if there were videos of England players celebrating this result on social media?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 12:31:33
Joe Allen, Ramsay and Bale are past it, legs wise. Age is but a number

They deserve to play in the world cup for getting them there though. And imagine the flack for taking them off.

Wales aren't done, especially if we beat USA and qualify so we can blood some squad players at some point on Tuesday. But it's out of their own hands. 

I don't think the group is done yet
There is zero chance of Southgate and/or the England players taking it easy v Wales.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 12:35:10
There is zero chance of Southgate and/or the England players taking it easy v Wales.

But every chance of England fucking it up v. Wales or the USA for that matter.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 25, 2022, 12:53:04
If it was piss taking from the fans then I’d agree, the players not so much so.

Would we find it as amusing if there were videos of England players celebrating this result on social media?
No absolutely, but I would think the Welsh and Scots would revel in such pisstaking activities, maybe even the Irish too. Shows a lack of respect IMO.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 13:22:42
I'm normally sad when the host nation go out. it detects from the atmosphere of the competition.

But Qatar are shit and their fans add nothing. see ya


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 13:24:07
I have a distrust of anyone who wants other home nations to do well. including players

what you have to understand that as well as small man syndrome, Wales have an inferiority


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 13:43:04
There is zero chance of Southgate and/or the England players taking it easy v Wales.

Win tonight and we’d be through.

He’d definitely rest players and I guess look at where we’d end up depending on if we finish first or second in the group.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 13:50:40
If we beat the USA it’ll take a massive defeat by Wales plus an Iran win v USA for England not to finish top.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 13:53:10
Is it head to head or GD first.

Even more reason to rest players against Wales.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: jevs on Friday, November 25, 2022, 13:58:29
I have a distrust of anyone who wants other home nations to do well. including players

what you have to understand that as well as small man syndrome, Wales have an inferiority

Only compared to England's massive superiority complex batch. I support both but the amusing way England fanatics don't recognise that they're the biggest underachievers in world football since Spain had some success tickles me. We're a classic case of all the gear, no idea: world's richest clubs, huge support, massive grounds, first pro league in the world etc. Can't buy a win against a higher ranked team & still banging on about 66 which took both home advantage & helpful refereeing


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, November 25, 2022, 14:00:01
Gonna be on a plane for the England game - Just reading up on BA WiFi to see if I can stream it on IPTV.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 14:07:02
Is it head to head or GD first.

Even more reason to rest players against Wales.
Goal difference


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 14:49:20
Only compared to England's massive superiority complex batch. I support both but the amusing way England fanatics don't recognise that they're the biggest underachievers in world football since Spain had some success tickles me. We're a classic case of all the gear, no idea: world's richest clubs, huge support, massive grounds, first pro league in the world etc. Can't buy a win against a higher ranked team & still banging on about 66 which took both home advantage & helpful refereeing

We're not the biggest underachievers in world football, we've gotten pretty much what we have deserved. The helpful refereeing reference is bollocks too.


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 14:50:33
Quote
Only compared to England's massive superiority complex batch. I  
I didn't say it was a complex ;)

if we can't take the piss out of our own principality, what's the point.

lived in Wales for a bit, they give as good as they get!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 14:56:53
We're not the biggest underachievers in world football, we've gotten pretty much what we have deserved. The helpful refereeing reference is bollocks too.

The irony is that had the FA not been such a bunch of tossers in the early years England would likely have more than one World Cup, as they were actually one of the best teams in the World before they could be bothered to enter the tournament.

England were almost unbeatable at home until they got a footballing lesson by Hungary in 1953.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 15:34:24
Right. Time to head off to the bar.

Table booked - check
Pizza ordered - check
Mythos well stocked - check
Taxi booked - check

Kalispera!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, November 25, 2022, 16:10:03
Only compared to England's massive superiority complex batch. I support both but the amusing way England fanatics don't recognise that they're the biggest underachievers in world football since Spain had some success tickles me. We're a classic case of all the gear, no idea: world's richest clubs, huge support, massive grounds, first pro league in the world etc. Can't buy a win against a higher ranked team & still banging on about 66 which took both home advantage & helpful refereeing

helpful refereeing?  :fishing:

been screwed over many more times than benefitted! still angry at Sol Campbells header ruled out for nothing.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, November 25, 2022, 16:16:59
All I ever hear from Welsh/Scottish/Irish is that England are hated because of arrogance, when its just a bullshit excuse to justify xenophobia. At least just say its a local rivalry thing and you don't want to see us do well. If you ask most England fans if you think we'll win it, they'll say its more hope than expectation.

Robbie Savage: "Iran are probably one of the worst teams, they are dreadful"
Mark Hughes: "hopefully we'll already be qualified by the England game anyway"
Sorba Thomas: "We don't fear England. Why can't we be the ones to knock them out."
Kieffer Moore: "Can't wait to knock out England."

Talk about making a dick of yourselves Wales.

They'll be up for the game with us, so we'll need to be as well no matter what the result tonight, but I hope we fucking pump the cunts. They remind me of Bristol City with their misplaced arrogance. I suppose they're almost Welsh.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 16:23:01
helpful refereeing?  :fishing:

been screwed over many more times than benefitted! still angry at Sol Campbells header ruled out for nothing.

I was watching MOTD top 10 World Cup goals with Lineker, Shearer & Richards and Michael Owens goal from that game got a mentioned and Shearer (who ‘fouled’ the keeper) talked about this (and they showed it) I forgot just how fucking soft it was.

Was a ‘Golden Goal’ as well


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 16:31:35
Has Nigel de Jong deliberately come dressed as the twins from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 17:28:36
Holland started well but have been a bit disappointing.

still, getting out the group is all that matters at this stage.

We've never been the USA in a world cup. Expecting a very close game. We caught Iran cold, but that's a one off


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 17:35:06
Hosts going out on Day 6 of the tournament is a bit funny.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:08:25
is Godd002 in the house?

Hopefully your guys are Thanksgiving turkeys and suffer a black Friday

(yeah, I know, I know. But i the opportunity won't come up again)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:34:11
Let's fucking do this.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:35:34
Form aside, not sure about Maguire starting five days after a head knock.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:39:44
is Godd002 in the house?

Hopefully your guys are Thanksgiving turkeys and suffer a black Friday

(yeah, I know, I know. But i the opportunity won't come up again)


We had a pipe break under the house last week so they had to break through the cement.  Now we are trying to put it all back together so wife is making me work.  So just now getting game on


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:41:03
Like watching town atm


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:41:55
I’m at a pub having lunch fucking wankers have it on 1 tv.  Fuckers


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:49:21
Not looking very positive right now.  :doh:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:50:50
Form aside, not sure about Maguire starting five days after a head knock.

He was ill.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:52:00
Holland started well but have been a bit disappointing.

still, getting out the group is all that matters at this stage.

We've never been the USA in a world cup. Expecting a very close game. We caught Iran cold, but that's a one off

Thought Ecuador were very good tbf.

Think they would provide tough opposition in the next round - should that be the outcome


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:56:03
Any Swindon flags spotted?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:58:20
 :zzz:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, November 25, 2022, 18:58:39
Well this is thrilling


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:03:32
US will score soon. I don't quite know what we are doing.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:05:12
More rewarding trying to spot flags. A bit turgid.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:06:05
US will score soon. I don't quite know what we are doing.

Nothing. Literally nothing


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:07:45
one paced and early promise down the right gone.

USA should be 1-0 up... and have just hit the bar


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:08:06
It's coming. Useless at the moment.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:08:17
Boring Southgate tactics England need to up their game or risk getting beat.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:09:12
one paced and early promise down the right gone.

USA should be 1-0 up... and have just hit the bar

We need to use the left side as well😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:09:36
It's like walking football for the over 50s  :suicide:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:16:15
Fucking wake up😡


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:18:19
Static and zero challenges, wtf is going on?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:19:17
Southgates tactics & lack of inspiration!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:19:41
We put the ball in the box. Yay


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:20:08
Perhaps we're trying to get Wales back in the tournament!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:20:14
The way this is going, England will do well to get a draw.

Hopefully they will improve in the second half


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:20:43
The way this is going, England will do well to get a draw.

Hopefully they will improve in the second half


Now let these English lads have a day off.  It’s ok!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:20:47
1 min added says it all.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:21:27

Now let these English lads have a day off.  It’s ok!

We have so far  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:23:26
I’m sure England will come back out balls out but I am hoping to keep this game within 1 goal.  I think that gives the USA a chance if they take care of Iran


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:24:26
Not a great half but a few of you have the lost the run of yourselves here. US are playing well, but as we saw v Wales it's hard to press like that for the whole 90.

Few tweaks needed but we've shown that they're vulnerable down the wings. That Musah looks handy.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:25:30
Not denying the US have done OK, but we are so static.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:26:29
we look dodgy down our left ourselves.

USA are half decent and always going to be hard to break down.

But there wasn't much urgency or movement from ourselves first 10 and last 1 aside.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:26:39
Not a great half but a few of you have the lost the run of yourselves here. US are playing well, but as we saw v Wales it's hard to press like that for the whole 90.

Few tweaks needed but we've shown that they're vulnerable down the wings. That Musah looks handy.

It's the lack of excitement that concerns me.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:27:36
I still see a 2-0 win for England but hoping for a 2-1 or 1-0


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: oxonrobin on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:29:02
Fairly uninspiring half that.

I’m sure he must have had his moments, but I cannot remember Mount having a decent game against any sort of half-decent opposition for a long time. Saka poor for him as well so far.

Not being brave enough in the right areas for me. Too easy for the US.

Come on England, make me look stupid in the second half!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:32:05
One extreme to the other isn’t it.

Last game it was all ‘it’s coming home’ and now it’s all ‘boring, overrated England’ & ‘Southgate out’

Not a great half. USA look good to be fair. Draw wouldn’t be a disaster over all.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:32:28
Booked a table in Bath for the football tonight, the Kiwi girl I met 3 years ago that took my heart was there, same pub, haven’t seen her since.

Only came out for the game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:34:13
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: oxonrobin on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:36:31
One extreme to the other isn’t it.

Last game it was all ‘it’s coming home’ and now it’s all ‘boring, overrated England’ & ‘Southgate out’

Not a great half. USA look good to be fair. Draw wouldn’t be a disaster over all.

Unfortunately due to work I didn’t see that one. So my opinion of England in this tournament comes from that 45 only, and it won’t last long if we play like that.

With all due respect our group draw has been incredibly kind to us. England player for player are a cut above, just playing so, so far below the sum of our parts.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:42:21
'It's not been a massive improvement'

It's been three minutes Lee.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:46:34
8 mins and he ain't wrong


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:49:25
Pass amongst yourselves boys.....remind you of anyone!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:50:50
Tv is going off soon. Fucking shit.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:51:42
We need Pep or Klopp to give them a team talk


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:52:14
come on Lindsey, make some changes


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:52:51
Backs against the wall😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:54:36
An hour of this is enough for me, off back to the County.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:55:21
Bring on Louie Reed  ::)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:57:19
Bring on Louie Reed  ::)

Too early for that, wait until we get a free kick after the 90th minute


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:58:08
Yep.... this team/match is crying out for Jordan Henderson 🤣

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:58:36
Yep.... this team/match is crying out for Jordan Henderson 🤣

Sent from my SM-A125F

Best to play safe😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: oxonrobin on Friday, November 25, 2022, 19:58:44
“Jordan Henderson taking his bib off” that is a bit of a Louis Reed type sub actually!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:00:46
Bring on Louie Reed  ::)

https://youtu.be/WDP7_h4wkgw


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:12:40
All the boring sideways & backwards passing has to come from Southgate


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:22:16
Its not very good is it.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:27:43
Utter shit.

USA better team for large parts


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:28:09
Hope Gareth watches it back this evening😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:28:53
Woulda loved a win but a draw keeps us alive.   Hope England gets their shit together against wales and USA does the same against Iran


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:29:11
Dull as dishwater, not one for the viewing public at all but looked like England set out to not lose and to conserve energy. On those terms, it's probably a success, same as the Scotland game in the Euros. It's frustrating to watch as a viewer of course, but that just felt like zero risk football knowing a draw was fine for the qualification. Beat Wales and it's all forgotten.

Not a disaster, but a bit of a shit Friday night.

Thought that young lad Musah looked a real player. Certainly the better 19 year old mid on the night, although Bellingham has credit in the bank.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:29:26
Utter shit.

USA better team for large parts

Exactly that :clap: boring keep ball tactics scared to take players on


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:29:39
At least the ITV group game is out of the way


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:29:51
USA quick, energetic, bright

England dull, drab, lacklustre


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:30:36
Just like Gareth!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:34:03
Just like Gareth!

Thanks Jim!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:34:43
Hope Gareth watches it back this evening😀

Fucking deserves to.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:34:49
Is does make you wonder if they had the “don’t lose” mentality.



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:35:14
Thanks Jim!

 :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: oxonrobin on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:35:14
Did England try and win that?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:36:08
Fucking deserves to.

Yep now's the time once the tournament is over.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:36:16
Just like Gareth!

Same Gareth who has taken us to a final and a semi final in the last two tournaments.

Wind it in


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:36:54
Did England try and win that?

No. We should have put the group stages to sleep tonight, not the fans


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:37:08
Is does make you wonder if they had the “don’t lose” mentality.



Of course they did. And it's probably not wrong if you play the odds, putting in extra effort to win every group game doesn't really benefit you in the long run. Not fun to watch though of course.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:37:33
Dull as dishwater, not one for the viewing public at all but looked like England set out to not lose and to conserve energy. On those terms, it's probably a success, same as the Scotland game in the Euros. It's frustrating to watch as a viewer of course, but that just felt like zero risk football knowing a draw was fine for the qualification. Beat Wales and it's all forgotten.

Not a disaster, but a bit of a shit Friday night.

Thought that young lad Musah looked a real player. Certainly the better 19 year old mid on the night, although Bellingham has credit in the bank.

Yeah, this.

Not great to watch but that result will do. Puts us all but through. No injuries, no suspensions etc


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:37:36
Same Gareth who has taken us to a final and a semi final in the last two tournaments.

Wind it in

You wind it in I'm entitled to my opinion


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:44:13
Same Gareth who has taken us to a final and a semi final in the last two tournaments.

Wind it in

Ffs 😂😂😂


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:45:27
You wind it in I'm entitled to my opinion

Yes, you are - and I’m perfectly entitled to tell you your opinion is rubbish if I want too.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:45:55
Ffs 😂😂😂

Did those two things I mentioned not happen?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:46:40
Yes, you are - and I’m perfectly entitled to tell you your opinion is rubbish if I want too.

As if I will listen to you and your mate.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:48:14
As if I will listen to you and your mate.

Yeah, that works for me - never read or reply to my posts again. Thanks.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:48:23
Yeah, this.

Not great to watch but that result will do. Puts us all but through. No injuries, no suspensions etc

I wasn't at all impressed tonight but your right. That point takes us all but through. We will have to be much much better in the knock outs. I wonder if Southgate is saving Foden for the knock outs. To have not brought him on at all in either game is a little baffling.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:48:29
Hope Gareth watches it back this evening😀

A cowardly negative boring twat that has exciting players on the bench and refused to make changes earlier.
How the twat starts Mason Mount and keeps him on is criminal.

Schooled by the USA.
Ffs no wonder I stick my head in the sand following Swindon and not that.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:49:10
Yeah, that works for me - never read or reply to my posts again. Thanks.

Same here mate no time for slimed digs


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:51:45
Did those two things I mentioned not happen?

Maybe we should have a National holiday with the other football giant Croatia.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:54:12
I wasn't at all impressed tonight but your right. That point takes us all but through. We will have to be much much better. I wonder if Southgate is saving Foden for the knock outs. To have not brought him on at all in either game is
a little bit baffling.

Quite frankly one poor group game is not likely to define our tournament.

The people going overboard about how poor England were tonight (and they were) and how rubbish they are and how Southgate is a poor manager - were the same people who peddled the same wrist slitting crap over a equally crap 0-0 draw with Scotland in the Euros. The same people who a week later were singing ‘footballs coming home’


Ultimately footballs a results business & Southgate has absolutely delivered when it’s matter so far - so no doubt in my mind people should be off his back for this tournament.

If we balls it up, then yeah let’s reassess but for now I think Southgate has done enough to be given the benefit of the doubt.

A lot of people lack the ability to take anything past or future into their thoughts - it’s all right here right now…and yes the game was dull but who fucking cares. No one in their right mind supports England (and Swindon for that matter) to be entertained. We support them because we want them to win.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 20:57:47
Quite frankly one poor group game is not likely to define our tournament.

The people going overboard about how poor England were tonight (and they were) and how rubbish they are and how Southgate is a poor manager - were the same people who peddled the same wrist slitting crap over a equally crap 0-0 draw with Scotland in the Euros. The same people who a week later were singing ‘footballs coming home’


Ultimately footballs a results business & Southgate has absolutely delivered when it’s matter so far - so no doubt in my mind people should be off his back for this tournament.

If we balls it up, then yeah let’s reassess but for now I think Southgate has done enough to be given the benefit of the doubt.

A lot of people lack the ability to take anything past or future into their thoughts - it’s all right here right now…and yes the game was dull but who fucking cares. No one in their right mind supports England (and Swindon for that matter) to be entertained. We support them because we want them to win.

Every opinion as good as the next.
Tonight sums up the England Manager.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:01:25
Every opinion as good as the next.
Tonight sums up the England Manager.

It does, as someone who prioritises results ahead of performances. I get why people don't love it, and maybe with the talent level we have now, we don't need it. But top managers don't manage at international level these days, so who else gets the job? Can be sure that it wouldn't be a Pep, Klopp, Tuchel figure, even Potter has a better club gig now.

Would you take a Brendan Rogers? A Frank Lampard? Gerrard?  It doesn't feel like a deep pool of options.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:05:58
My point was it was against USA not Brazil and as well as they played we didn't go after them like a Klopp or Pep side would. All we hear through the media is how talented we are we'll give us someone in charge who wants to let them express themselves.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:08:58
My point was it was against USA not Brazil and as well as they played we didn't go after them like a Klopp or Pep side would. All we hear through the media is how talented we are we'll give us someone in charge who wants to let them express themselves.

And who is that?

I'm not for one second saying that today was any good, but we scored six goals literally one game ago. We didn't go for the kill, but we didn't need to, and if we had and got caught out or someone tore a hamstring, we'd have been far worse off than we are just taking the draw. It was a dull, mechanical, joyless decision, but it wasn't trying to win and failing.

We did of course try Kevin Keegan, England manager, and it didn't go very well.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:09:23
 Christ- nil nil is not the end of the world


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:11:05
My point was it was against USA not Brazil and as well as they played we didn't go after them like a Klopp or Pep side would. All we hear through the media is how talented we are we'll give us someone in charge who wants to let them express themselves.

This. That was totally unacceptable with the talent at disposal.
The fact that it wasn’t working and how late it was left to make the changes against lesser opposition sums up who we have in charge.
Deserves all the shit tomorrow morning coming to him.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:11:38
Quite frankly one poor group game is not likely to define our tournament.

The people going overboard about how poor England were tonight (and they were) and how rubbish they are and how Southgate is a poor manager - were the same people who peddled the same wrist slitting crap over a equally crap 0-0 draw with Scotland in the Euros. The same people who a week later were singing ‘footballs coming home’


Ultimately footballs a results business & Southgate has absolutely delivered when it’s matter so far - so no doubt in my mind people should be off his back for this tournament.

If we balls it up, then yeah let’s reassess but for now I think Southgate has done enough to be given the benefit of the doubt.

A lot of people lack the ability to take anything past or future into their thoughts - it’s all right here right now…and yes the game was dull but who fucking cares. No one in their right mind supports England (and Swindon for that matter) to be entertained. We support them because we want them to win.

Coz you never moan  ::)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:11:43
If you're happy watching that shite carry on but can't see those tactics going far in the competition but hey happy to be proved wrong.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:12:24
You are honestly the thickest cunt with regards to football I’ve ever known.

Love to meet you at the County ground


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:12:47
You are honestly the thickest cunt with regards to football I’ve ever known.

It’s called an opinion. We don’t always agree.
Show some respect and class Mate. No need for that.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:13:33
   I feel very sorry for those who seem to think that England have some sort of devine right to roll over all opposition


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:14:16
And who is that?

I'm not for one second saying that today was any good, but we scored six goals literally one game ago. We didn't go for the kill, but we didn't need to, and if we had and got caught out or someone tore a hamstring, we'd have been far worse off than we are just taking the draw. It was a dull, mechanical, joyless decision, but it wasn't trying to win and failing.

We did of course try Kevin Keegan, England manager, and it didn't go very well.

Add to that - that Iran are a decent side and likes of Germany and Argentina came unstuck against teams who rankings wise are worse than Iran.

I’d get the negativity if both games had been like tonight - but they haven’t been.

Plus the US have a decent team and despite football still being far from the most known/popular sport over there - it’s still huge, getting bigger and better. Just purely playing the population percentages the have a massive pool to pick from in theory.

They aren’t a minnow and I’m not sure why a lot on here and treating them as such.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:14:40
Christ- nil nil is not the end of the world

That is years supporting Swindon Mate.
Not digging but laughing ☹️😇


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:35:11
Love to meet you at the County ground

Post deleted?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 25, 2022, 21:58:49
By who?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Friday, November 25, 2022, 22:47:05
On reflection, it was a shit game and every team plays shit games, as we well know.

However, what pisses me off is that I had high expectations for both home-country games today and they were both awful. So it must be my fault for forgetting that games rarely live up to your hopes. At least BT didn't show any rugby tonight so nothing was lost.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 00:03:38
By who?

Quaqmire


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 06:10:12
Why are people getting so het up over a dull England performance? God knows there’s been enough of them before.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 06:16:58
Why are people getting so het up over a dull England performance? God knows there’s been enough of them before.

Just like watching Swindon play.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 06:31:38
I don't really remember us ever flying through the group stage

I think Wales need to win 4-0 for us not to qualify. if they do that then we deserve to go out


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 09:04:30
You can see it now, Wales are going to beat England 1-0.

England qualify for the second phase & Wales go home on a high


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 09:06:51
You can see it now, Wales are going to beat England 1-0.

England qualify for the second phase & Wales go home on a high

Haha, I literally just said something similar in a chat group.

As long as we're in the knockouts that's all that matters. It's from then on that Southgate earns his money.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 09:07:05
More importantly could Jonny Williams be available for Saturday?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 09:33:25
Why are people getting so het up over a dull England performance? God knows there’s been enough of them before.
Hot and cold, great performance just a few days ago then that shite.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 09:51:08
It's all about progression into the knock out stage.

Goes to show though that even teams at elite level struggle against an intelligent press & well thought out defensive set up.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 11:10:02
It's called "group management" I believe. And Southgate is good at it.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 11:19:28
..oh,and if yer darling Brazil had put in a performance like ours against Iran,everyone would've been all over it. Always get far more comments after a perceived poor performance it seems


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 11:24:53
Just like watching Swindon play.
MacGuire and Stones' repeated interpassing was great for possession stats.  68% at half time.  Like watching paint dry.  They made Harries and Brennan look positively Brazilian.

Rice is a good shield but they needed someone like last season's Reed to move England forward.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 12:54:09
The start of the Poland v Saudi Arabia games is very like the start the USA made. They are very energetic and skilful.

I reckon the traditional footballing nations are going to have to accept that the supposed also ran nations have caught up immensely - and in some cases overtaken them.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 13:23:04
Why are people getting so het up over a dull England performance? God knows there’s been enough of them before.

For me it was a clear sign that we have absolutely no chance of getting near winning this competition.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 13:27:30
For me it was a clear sign that we have absolutely no chance of getting near winning this competition.

was it different to the 2nd game in Euro 2020 when we drew to Scotland?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 14:48:55
Didn't see the first game but the Australian win should be counted as something of an upset?

Much better from Poland.
A solid Pot B team for qualifying but making up the numbers in recent tournaments.
A far cry from the glory days of the 1970's.

Have to admire the approach of the Saudis.
This group is wide open.

Much more difficult for the Saudis to buy their way to WC glory.
Did read mention of a possible 2030 joint bid from Greece, Egypt & Saudi Arabia.
Not for me.
For the 100th anniversary of the WC there are much more worthy symbolic venues if they are up for it.

Second appearance by the Brasilian ref if I'm not mistaken & still no sign of Oliver or Taylor.

And finally, Matty Cash's perfect coifeurre is a thing of great envy.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 16:40:38
Do you think we will ever get another World Cup during our lifetime 😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 19:36:20
Think this will be a South American win, maybe Argentina. Not sure on golden boot but maybe Jamal Musiala as an outsider if it's not a Neymar/Messi.

Get a load of this idiot.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, November 26, 2022, 22:11:34
MacGuire and Stones' repeated interpassing was great for possession stats.  68% at half time.  Like watching paint dry.  They made Harries and Brennan look positively Brazilian.

Rice is a good shield but they needed someone like last season's Reed to move England forward.
Rice is perfect if played the correct way like he is for West Ham. Shoehorning people like Mount in is what is messing things up. We have no creativity apart from the front 3 on a consistent level, fullbacks were horrific yesterday as well, shades of Rob Hunt get forward then turn back


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 10:34:18
Luke Shaw was a strange one at United he bombs forward at every opportunity it's as if Southgate had told him not to attack past the half way line.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 10:42:37
Must have been a hell of a pass to get an assist for our first goal against Iran from inside his own half?

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Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 10:45:39
I see what you've saying😀 but imagine what chances he could create by attacking in the opposition's half and supplying crosses onto the box.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 10:59:00
Which both Shaw and Trippier did against a frankly dreadful Iran (who played like a differentteam against Wales), an outlet which was then very succesfully nullified by an organised USA team who had obviously done their homework.

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Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 11:02:10
Against a very well organised team that Southgate didn't seem to want to change tactics/personnel to change things.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 11:25:54
So far, the teams that had a great first game seem to be having a really duff second one. What price Germany to beat Spain I wonder?

Over half way through the second round and only France have two wins.


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 11:30:45
Against a very well organised team that Southgate didn't seem to want to change tactics/personnel to change things.
Fine so it's all down to Southgate then, who you replacing him with?

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Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 11:49:08
Garner?


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 12:19:25
Fine so it's all down to Southgate then, who you replacing him with?

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So it's not down to the tactics then? and the USA players are too good for the likes of Shaw and the rest of the the players to have a plan B and work out how to get behind them? For the record I would go foreign again as there are no English candidates I can think are suitable and would go for Thomas Tuchel after the World Cup is over.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 13:06:01
was it different to the 2nd game in Euro 2020 when we drew to Scotland?

I do not recall that game to be honest.

Looking back at our knockout route to the final at Euro 2020, we played Germany (in a shambles), Ukraine, Denmark. The standard at a World Cup is higher and I would bet that Italy would have beaten Scotland.

It could be just a blip, or a tactical bit of not losing, but nevertheless it was a dire performance and not befitting of a side that has the potential to win against really good opposition.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:27:44
Belgium 0 Morocco 2😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:36:21
wow! I had to go out at half time but they were on top second part of first half.

What a win for them


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:36:43
Belgium 0 Morocco 2😀

Imagine the meltdown over here if we had lost to Morocco.

It looks like their “Golden Generation” is going to be as successful as ours was


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:39:52
Imagine the meltdown over here if we had lost to Morocco.

It looks like their “Golden Generation” is going to be as successful as ours was

Was just discussing the parallels between ours and Belgium’s ‘golden generation’ with the pub landlord. On paper both that England team’s and Belgium’s are/were phenomenal, but neither ever managed to create fear in the opposition.


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:42:54
Fine so it's all down to Southgate then, who you replacing him with?

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I think so Yes. I am unsure who to replace him with if we do not do well but someone braver.

Do you not think it is his fault he is not playing players like Foden and playing Mount and not looking at players like Tomori but selecting players like Dier?


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:43:25
So it's not down to the tactics then? and the USA players are too good for the likes of Shaw and the rest of the the players to have a plan B and work out how to get behind them? For the record I would go foreign again as there are no English candidates I can think are suitable and would go for Thomas Tuchel after the World Cup is over.

Interesting. Three good English managers in the PL at the moment all with better records at club level than Southgate.
I suspect that Southgate will call time with England after this tournament but don't think that the FA will look outside of England. Didn't go so well on the last 2 occasions but we'll see.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:48:27
Imagine the meltdown over here if we had lost to Morocco.

It looks like their “Golden Generation” is going to be as successful as ours was

Fair point, I can still remember the outrage when we lost to Sweden under Taylor


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:49:15
Southgate is our most successful manager since 66.

Yet I doubt he'll be thought of as fondly as Bobby Robson.

I kind of feel the same, but I can't put my finger on why


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:06:05
Southgate is our most successful manager since 66.

Yet I doubt he'll be thought of as fondly as Bobby Robson.

I kind of feel the same, but I can't put my finger on why

A lot of it is due to Social Media I think.

Remember the press pretty much hounded Robson out of the England job before the 1990 World Cup


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:09:47
Well that puts the Moules amongst the Frites.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:13:26
Shame Japan lost, good result for Germany. Let's hope Spain do the business later.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:23:15
Interesting. Three good English managers in the PL at the moment all with better records at club level than Southgate.
I suspect that Southgate will call time with England after this tournament but don't think that the FA will look outside of England. Didn't go so well on the last 2 occasions but we'll see.

But none of them in their right mind would take the England job, money likely only marginally better, the associated media ball ache and supporters calling for their head two games into a competition where to date they haven't lost.

Sad to say but if we are going down the English manager route it's going to be a Bruce or similar after a last pay day or much as with Southgate an appointment from within? One option slightly ouside that criteria option might be Rodgers, as the gloss seems to have gone at Leicester.

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Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:28:18
Southgate is our most successful manager since 66.

Yet I doubt he'll be thought of as fondly as Bobby Robson.

I kind of feel the same, but I can't put my finger on why
If it hadn't been for the glorious failure at italia 90 I don't think Robson would have been looked back on that fondly, plus what he did post England (and being a genuinely great bloke) got his reputation up again.

Remembering the 88 Euros and aftermath I think Robsons legacy has been rather rose tinted by many fans and the media in more recent years.



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Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:29:35
But none of them in their right mind would take the England job, money likely only marginally better, the associated media ball ache and supporters calling for their head two games into a competition where to date they haven't lost.

Sad to say but if we are going down the English manager route it's going to be a Bruce or similar after a last pay day or much as with Southgate an appointment from within? One option slightly ouside that criteria option might be Rodgers, as the gloss seems to have gone at Leicester.

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I have a feeling Eddie Howe might.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:32:42
I can see the wealthy Newcastle owners looking for a bigger profile manager in the near future which may give Howe the opportunity to manage England if the circumstances are right.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:36:13
But none of them in their right mind would take the England job, money likely only marginally better, the associated media ball ache and supporters calling for their head two games into a competition where to date they haven't lost.

Sad to say but if we are going down the English manager route it's going to be a Bruce or similar after a last pay day or much as with Southgate an appointment from within? One option slightly ouside that criteria option might be Rodgers, as the gloss seems to have gone at Leicester.

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If England want to win something - then the next manager should be Mourinho.

The football wouldn’t be pretty and the same people moaning about Southgate would be moaning about Mourinho but he’s a winner.

Not many English managers are.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 15:48:59
If England want to win something - then the next manager should be Mourinho.

The football wouldn’t be pretty and the same people moaning about Southgate would be moaning about Mourinho but he’s a winner.

Not many English managers are.
If he wins and they moan then fuck em. The last 12 months haven't been great though unfortunately, fans need more than a 6-2 against Iran to get excited probably


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:11:01
If he wins and they moan then fuck em. The last 12 months haven't been great though unfortunately, fans need more than a 6-2 against Iran to get excited probably

Granted the last 12 months haven’t been great but thus far Southgate has delivered good showings in the major tournaments.

Enough to be cut some slack against a very organised, high energies US side. In a game we didn’t *really* need to win…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:12:30
Canada v Croatia is a cracking game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:14:36
Granted the last 12 months haven’t been great but thus far Southgate has delivered good showings in the major tournaments.

Enough to be cut some slack against a very organised, high energies US side. In a game we didn’t *really* need to win…
He does but i don't think he should be above being called out for poor selection too. People wanting him gone shouting etc are just stupid but he needs a good competition in my opinion still.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:17:18
It will be interesting to see how England perform tomorrow evening as Wales have nothing to lose and will probably attack from the start.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:26:19
He does but i don't think he should be above being called out for poor selection too. People wanting him gone shouting etc are just stupid but he needs a good competition in my opinion still.

Definitely. Agree on that.

We keep putting in those types of performances and we will go out and Southgates time will be up, no doubt.

Which was no doubt said after the 0-0 with Scotland.

Nemo used the phrase ‘group management’ we gotta hope that’s what is was…
Selection (and subs) weren’t great but if it means someone like Foden is fresher for the knockouts then no harm done.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:35:56
 i am not coming out with anything ground breaking by saying that international football is a lot more competitive than it was in the good old days .  And history tells us that England didnt win that much in the good old days either.

I am sure that England will go on to have a good tournament - and maybe get to the last 8. 


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:52:22
It will be interesting to see how England perform tomorrow evening as Wales have nothing to lose and will probably attack from the start.
What are they playing wales at tomorrow? The world Cup game is Tuesday?

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Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:52:31
It will be interesting to see how England perform tomorrow evening as Wales have nothing to lose and will probably attack from the start.

It's on Tuesday night Jim. Tomorrow is the last of the 4 games at 10,1,4 and 7.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 16:56:40
My mistake gents it's definitely Tuesday.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 17:38:02
Croatia clinical after going a goal down so early.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 17:43:27
My mistake gents it's definitely Tuesday.

No worries Jim. So much football on at the moment it's an easy mistake to make!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 18:14:34
No worries Jim. So much football on at the moment it's an easy mistake to make!

No Gareth! You're meant to call JQ a daft cunt and not budge one iota or be accepting that we all make mistakes  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

JQ you daft cunt*






*Only joking matey. Promise  ;)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 18:33:11
No Gareth! You're meant to call JQ a daft cunt and not budge one iota or be accepting that we all make mistakes  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

JQ you daft cunt*






*Only joking matey. Promise  ;)




No worries Bamboo I know you don't have any malice in you🤣  How you doing these days miss your content!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 19:20:48
Spain trying to walk it in.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 19:29:30
Germany well organised but missing a decent forward.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 19:53:19
Spain look a bit ragged.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 19:54:39
Get in  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 20:25:36
 ::)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 21:00:53
Germany and Spain to go through then. Nearly but not quite a shock.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 21:15:35
Japan to win  ;)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 10:05:37
Love the Cameroon celebration there, although I suspect there's about to be ten bookings! Also nice to remember Rigobert Song.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 28, 2022, 11:03:32
Like the second Cameroon goal!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 11:04:40
Like the second Cameroon goal!

Brilliant wasn't it? And the Serbian third This is a cracker of a game.

Edit: fucking hell this is great.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 28, 2022, 11:06:56
Wow!

Serbia defending far too high. Aboubakar is loving it!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 11:11:34
Wow!

Serbia defending far too high. Aboubakar is loving it!

Well, most of Serbia are defending very high. Nobody seems to have told the right back!

It's a bit like running the line for my club team up here, three defenders stepping up nicely and one has dozed off and played everyone onside.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 28, 2022, 11:29:59
Well, most of Serbia are defending very high. Nobody seems to have told the right back!

It's a bit like running the line for my club team up here, three defenders stepping up nicely and one has dozed off and played everyone onside.

Reminds me when I ran the line for our lot years back, the gobby prick left back was moaning that I wasn't flagging rather missing that whilst the back 4 were keeping a decent line, the slow midfielder coming out 3 yards behind them was playing everyone onside.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:15:44
BBC Commentary team getting cross at the flag staying down for an offside and letting the play continue to the shot before flagging... when that exact protocol changed the result of the last game because the assistant thought Aboubakar was offside for Cameroon's second. And why yes, it is Jonathan Pearce, of course it is.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:54:52
Some really entertaining games today!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:57:27
Some really entertaining games today!

Indeed. Better than the dross from Friday.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:57:42
South Korea playing crossing-and-headers is certainly playing against type!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:58:11
South Korea playing crossing-and-headers is certainly playing against type!

Those two defenders though  :doh:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:59:30
BBC Commentary team getting cross at the flag staying down for an offside and letting the play continue to the shot before flagging... when that exact protocol changed the result of the last game because the assistant thought Aboubakar was offside for Cameroon's second. And why yes, it is Jonathan Pearce, of course it is.

I totally understand why it's done, the Aboubakar incident the case in point as to why it's done in the way it is. And on the otherside of the coin I also understand why people don't like it, sometimes the striker is clearly miles offside and they play on for so long that it appears to be pointless. Can you imagine if a player was to get injured badly in such a scenario? I guess that's why the pundits aren't keen.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 28, 2022, 14:04:59
2 good games today so far


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 14:38:57
Suspect the Korean manager will be having a bit of time off here.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 28, 2022, 14:39:26
Suspect the Korean manager will be having a bit of time off here.

What was he so irate with the referee for? Ah because he blew the whistle before they had a chance to take a corner. The time was over by 30 seconds so was probably correct.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Monday, November 28, 2022, 14:45:56
I fully accept that everything about a World Cup in Qatar is wrong but there is one caveat to that. I am not missing the sight of England "fans" taking over bars and cafes singing about the IRA and throwing furniture at people who wander past. It may be old age but the lack of alcohol is not necessarily a bad thing.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 28, 2022, 14:50:05
The idiots may not have travelled to Qatar but have made it to Tenerife🤣

https://www.independent.ie/videos/england-and-wales-fans-clash-in-tenerife-ahead-of-their-world-cup-game-next-tuesday-42175426.html


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 28, 2022, 15:05:40
More Judy than Punch.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 28, 2022, 15:11:03
Normally is 😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 28, 2022, 15:21:37
fecking eeedjuts.

I guess not that unusual at the Veronicas though.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 28, 2022, 15:27:21
Not even sure they can be called football thugs when they are nowhere near a game😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 16:22:28
Can always rely on Switzerland to bring the mood down.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 28, 2022, 17:29:43
I've not yet seen an outstanding team over 90 minutes Spain the pick of the bunch for me but only in patches.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Monday, November 28, 2022, 17:42:56
I've not yet seen an outstanding team over 90 minutes Spain the pick of the bunch for me but only in patches.

From what I have seen so far, the World Cup winner will come from Spain, Brazil or France. They have been a class apart so far. Will be interesting to see how they cope in the knock out stages as most teams will just sit back against them and hope to score a goal on the break.

I’m not a major fan of cup football for that reason as you can have a favourable draw or just play ultra defensive and go far in a tournament.

If I had the choice of watching Swindon win the premier league or champions league in my life time then the premier league wins all day long.



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 28, 2022, 17:45:59
Good post my sentiments exactly.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 28, 2022, 17:48:47
From what I have seen so far, the World Cup winner will come from Spain, Brazil or France. They have been a class apart so far. Will be interesting to see how they cope in the knock out stages as most teams will just sit back against them and hope to score a goal on the break.

I’m not a major fan of cup football for that reason as you can have a favourable draw or just play ultra defensive and go far in a tournament.

If I had the choice of watching Swindon win the premier league or champions league in my life time then the premier league wins all day long.



League 2 or the Wiltshire Trophy are probably a bit more realistic.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Monday, November 28, 2022, 18:36:33
 I have really enjoyed the world cup .  Some interesting games and upsets. you can also have a good laugh at those who think they know a lot more than experienced managers and professionals


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 28, 2022, 18:55:40
From what I have seen so far, the World Cup winner will come from Spain, Brazil or France. They have been a class apart so far. Will be interesting to see how they cope in the knock out stages as most teams will just sit back against them and hope to score a goal on the break.

I’m not a major fan of cup football for that reason as you can have a favourable draw or just play ultra defensive and go far in a tournament.

If I had the choice of watching Swindon win the premier league or champions league in my life time then the premier league wins all day long.



Interestingly, I love cup football for exactly the same reason. The best team doesn't always win, and everyone (well, nearly everyone) has a bit of hope. Obviously wouldn't turn my nose up at Town reaching the PL but we'd have no chance over a season. In this world cup, England look the 5th or 6th best team so far, but there's still a chance.

I guess it just comes to whether you want a 'fair' result in which case leagues tend to be right almost every time, or are fine with plenty of luck being involved.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, November 28, 2022, 20:12:52
Watching some of Portugal v Uruguay & hoping Portugal lose as Ronaldo is such an unlikeable cunt, and then remembering that Suarez (who is even more of a cunt) plays for Uruguay.

It’s like trying to choose between the piss stains & slave traders


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 28, 2022, 20:23:12
soapy tit wank. good analogy


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, November 28, 2022, 20:43:40
Never a handball. The rules for handball have become ridiculous. Earlier in the tournament a volley smashed at a defender from just over 2 yards away was also given.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 07:59:33
Today is the today. For us Taff's, it's more about the performance. Very very unlikely to go through, but stranger things have happened.

Think England are certainly beatable but not by 4 goals.

We need to drop Ramsey. Will Southgate make changes? I don't think. Maybe 1 or 2 but nothing major.

For England, not sure which team is preferred in the next round.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 08:57:32
Play like we did on Friday then I don't see much point in progressing in this tournament.

On a side note,Cardiff v Leeds in the FA Cup too  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 09:14:57
With the second round of fixtures complete, I think it gives a lot of context to England's uninspiring performance vs the US - only three sides (Brazil, France, Portugal) have two wins from two, and I think there are issues with all those sides. Spain look the best team so far, and yet dropped two points to Germany who got beaten by Japan who in turn were beaten by Costa Rica. It just seems that the fast turnarounds are causing some fairly unpredictable results, it'll be really interesting to see if the final round of fixtures sees the best teams really assert themselves or not.

As for today's games, Group A at 3pm - Ecuador vs Senegal is essentially winner goes through, loser goes out, with Netherlands playing Qatar meaning they really should top the group.

Then Group B at 7pm - on paper, almost an identical set up as Group A as Iran v US should be two relatively evenly matched sides going head to head for second. The Wales/England rivalry factor certainly adds a complication though. I'm not an England fan who dislikes the Welsh at all, I wish they could somehow progress along with us, but dispassionately, this isn't anything like the Wales team of four years ago who really could have given a good account of themselves. England should win comfortably, but it doesn't always work that way.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 09:15:23
Think England are certainly beatable but not by 4 goals.

That's my thought, the Welsh *always* raise their game against us. ABE. But 4 goals, if that happens then something extraordinary unexpected must have happened - sending offs, penalties, etc. At least IMO

Play like we did on Friday then I don't see much point in progressing in this tournament.

Thing is, we've struggled through group stages before and picked up in knockout football. Nothing I saw v USA suggests that could happen, and yet we put 6 past Iran - so where do we lie?

I suggest closer to the USA game  based on recent form. But I don't know.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 09:31:41
With the second round of fixtures complete, I think it gives a lot of context to England's uninspiring performance vs the US - only three sides (Brazil, France, Portugal) have two wins from two, and I think there are issues with all those sides. Spain look the best team so far, and yet dropped two points to Germany who got beaten by Japan who in turn were beaten by Costa Rica. It just seems that the fast turnarounds are causing some fairly unpredictable results, it'll be really interesting to see if the final round of fixtures sees the best teams really assert themselves or not.

As for today's games, Group A at 3pm - Ecuador vs Senegal is essentially winner goes through, loser goes out, with Netherlands playing Qatar meaning they really should top the group.

Then Group B at 7pm - on paper, almost an identical set up as Group A as Iran v US should be two relatively evenly matched sides going head to head for second. The Wales/England rivalry factor certainly adds a complication though. I'm not an England fan who dislikes the Welsh at all, I wish they could somehow progress along with us, but dispassionately, this isn't anything like the Wales team of four years ago who really could have given a good account of themselves. England should win comfortably, but it doesn't always work that way.

Looking even further ahead, let's assume we finish top of the group and avoid the Dutch (who haven't been that great themselves either) we face either Ecuador or Senegal. Based on what i've seen I think i'd rather play Senegal, I think Ecuador could be tricky. If we turn up then we 'should' be good enough to beat either side and progress into the 1/4 finals.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 09:37:56
Looking even further ahead, let's assume we finish top of the group and avoid the Dutch (who haven't been that great themselves either) we face either Ecuador or Senegal. Based on what i've seen I think i'd rather play Senegal, I think Ecuador could be tricky. If we turn up then we 'should' be good enough to beat either side and progress into the 1/4 finals.

Thoughts?

Is Valencia fit? Ecuador* look a much poorer side without him on the pitch.

* I assume I am not the only one who has to say Ecuador in this style whenever I say it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQlVww0zKo


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 09:45:30
Is Valencia fit? Ecuador* look a much poorer side without him on the pitch.

* I assume I am not the only one who has to say Ecuador in this style whenever I say it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQlVww0zKo

haha - you are not alone!

Enner Valencia is a real menace. I've read he has recovered from his injury but will be watching today and without wishing injuries on players I agree that he would be a big miss from that side.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 10:04:35
Looking even further ahead, let's assume we finish top of the group and avoid the Dutch (who haven't been that great themselves either) we face either Ecuador or Senegal. Based on what i've seen I think i'd rather play Senegal, I think Ecuador could be tricky. If we turn up then we 'should' be good enough to beat either side and progress into the 1/4 finals.

Thoughts?

In theory Ecuador or Senegal are beatable, but then it's brick wall territory with a probable run of France in the quarters, Germany/Portugal in the semis and Spain/Brazil in the final.

That Spain/Brazil quarter looks absolutely delicious.

Whatever happens, it's hard to see an easy route to the final. Which is how it should be!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 14:02:49
Jesus was it 24 years ago, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/63788467


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 14:06:33
I am glad the game is on the beeb, and not the shit ITV. Cannot stand some of those pundits and co-commentators.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:17:24
I am glad the game is on the beeb, and not the shit ITV. Cannot stand some of those pundits and co-commentators.

Just Dixon and Matterface who are terrible, no? It's odd that ITV are using them as their A team when Champion/McCoist and Hutchinson/Townsend are much more enjoyable. Studio pundits I haven't seen much of.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:22:45
As it stands, the Netherlands win group A and Senegal will go through as runners-up.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:22:55
Prefer the BBC commentators but ITV have better pundits.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:26:44
Just Dixon and Matterface who are terrible, no? It's odd that ITV are using them as their A team when Champion/McCoist and Hutchinson/Townsend are much more enjoyable. Studio pundits I haven't seen much of.

Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with that re your analysis of the commentators. I hate the buildup/punditry etc so turn on just in time for the anthems and then kick off and then go and find something to do for 20 minutes over half time.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:36:27
Won't be easy for England should they meet Senegal.
I had Senegal down as an outside bet to make good progress but that was before they lost Mané.

Their fans are great.
Slap a coat of red & white paint on 4D and the gang and maybe they could do a similar job in the Town End.

Andros Townsend has done a good job on co-comms so far.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:40:54
I had red and white face paint on at the Sunderland play off game, ended up blending in and I looked flushed/embarrassed  :-[


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:43:40
I was wearing my "we are Ozzie's red & white army" T shirt😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 16:06:24
Ecuador and Senegal now 1-1

Edit - now Senegal 2-1.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 16:07:30
Ecuador and Senegal now 1-1

I went to the loo and missed two goals!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 16:08:33
Prefer the BBC commentators but ITV have better pundits.

Sam Matterface is a an abomination of the commentator.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 16:10:39
Sam Matterface is a an abomination of the commentator.

He waffles on & on! Enjoy listening to Keane, Neville & Souness and who dosen't enjoy looking at Laura😜


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 16:32:14
If you are bored this is worth a read, sounds like it was absolutely mental! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1930_FIFA_World_Cup


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 16:51:34
If you are bored this is worth a read, sounds like it was absolutely mental! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1930_FIFA_World_Cup

Good to know that FIFA has always been a shambles.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 17:37:24
Four changes for England. Foden, Rashford, Henderson and Walker in for Saka, Sterling, Trippier and Mount.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 18:42:47
 :zzz:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 18:51:12
 buzzin- cant beat matches like  this


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 18:53:59
WE WANT CHANGES!!!

Four changes for England. Foden, Rashford, Henderson and Walker in for Saka, Sterling, Trippier and Mount.

:zzz:

NO THOSE CHANGES!!!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 18:55:09
See the US are doing similar to us in the Iran game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 18:57:02
Not sure Wales are looking for that four goal win they need here.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 18:59:26
I want to comment but I don't want to jinx it ..


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:00:47
Wales to win 1-0 and the others draw.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:03:00
 I have been enjoying festive world cup football. Maybe winter world  cups should be the thing in future


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:06:20
Gripping stuff🤣


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:06:54
Maguire with the most shots  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:07:49
I have been enjoying festive world cup football. Maybe winter world  cups should be the thing in future

It’s definitely been different.

I mean - I’ve found because it isn’t summer and it isn’t hot that it’s easier (with a family) to watch the games whilst it’s dark, cold and people don’t want to go out.

I’ve also enjoyed the pallet cleanser from the domestic season but that’s probably influenced by our last two performances.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:08:51
Whilst obviously the domestic season isn’t on during the summer - there is a lot more going on with manager and player movement than there is now…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:09:23
Jonny warming up


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:09:28
I have watched more matches than I would normally do when the sun is shining and there are better things to do


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:09:34
I've seen my first Town flag of the tournament - extreme right on right-hand side.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:10:18
Quote from: Steak supper
 I have been enjoying festive world cup football. Maybe winter world  cups should be the thing in future

nope

clashes with proper football.
didn't give is a summer bridge between seasons


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:10:40
I've seen my first Town flag of the tournament - extreme right on right-hand side.

I'll wave next time.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:13:16
Epic injury time incoming... and the joy of the thoughts of Jenas on the concussion protocol again.

Much as the US game I think if we get a goal we win this easily.

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:13:47
I've seen my first Town flag of the tournament - extreme right on right-hand side.
Must be Legends Lounge.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:14:08
If that had gone in that was goal of the tournament stuff.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:16:49
Go USA


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:20:52
Bring on Crawley away.
This is shite.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:21:27
Bring on Crawley away.
This is shite.

Reign it in Dukey😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:23:01
Marcus Rashford is so nearly a good footballer. He's so involved and everything just seems to go 5% wrong at the very end. It's quite frustrating.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:25:39
didn't think that was too bad tbh. much better than USA game


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:26:57
I always wonder what not too bad means😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:27:01
 Nowhere near as bad a half as some would lead you to believe


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Shizzle on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:27:19
Bring on Crawley away.


So you can watch some more possession football without any end game?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:27:45
Don't watch much PL football at all, does Kane always play this deep for spurs.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:28:59
Yeah not bad at all against a stubborn defensive team with no real counter attacking threat - not sure you can play on the counter when you have two achingly slow players up front and just Daniel James who can run around ahead of Ampadu at DM. I can understand why you have to play Bale for the potential moment of magic but he just offers nothing in regular play.

England are nearly getting it right, lots of things going awry at the last minute but it'll come. Something like 75 percent of goals in this tournament have come in the second half.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:31:50
Bring on Trent Arnold for his passing ability.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:35:37
Quote from: Jimmy QuitMoaning
I always wonder what not too bad means😀

my view:

ok we didn't create much. But we had two or three chances, not none

Wales have inexplicably been passive, keeping it as tight as they can but not attacking much at all.

They will have to go for it. I suspect they hoped to nick a 1-0 and hope Iran can hold the USA.

They could be a different team in the second half, but up to now they've been very poor.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:41:11
Bale off. Fair play to Rob Page.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:45:05
hwyl fawr


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:45:27
Super strike


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:46:06
That'll do.

Edit: oof that step by Ward the wrong way looks worse every time you see it.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:46:44
 Southgate seems to have got it right


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:53:55
So you can watch some more possession football without any end game?

Club over Country for me.
Ironically planning the trains and we score 2 ⚽️


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:54:46
Reign it in Dukey😀

cracking team talk, there you go Jimbo ⚽️⚽️


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:55:16
Club over Country for me.
Ironically planning the trains and we score 2 ⚽️

Get back on trainline  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 19:57:50
Ouch.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:04:16
SOUTHGATE OUT


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:05:25
Get back on trainline  :)

10:30 meet up at Victoria it is 😀🍺🍺🍺

Mind you driving to Barrow again and not looking forward to that trip again.
Bastard train strike.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:05:34
Iran have had even less shots than Wales  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:06:17
I realise it's a bit grumpy but not sure Rashford should be praised overly for that shot just because the keeper fucks up and lets it go in. It's straight at him, 99 times out of a 100 the keeper deals with that. Great build up to that point though, just think picking out one of the others in the box is the higher percentage decision at the end of it all.


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:10:20
I realise it's a bit grumpy but not sure Rashford should be praised overly for that shot just because the keeper fucks up and lets it go in. It's straight at him, 99 times out of a 100 the keeper deals with that. Great build up to that point though, just think picking out one of the others in the box is the higher percentage decision at the end of it all.
Keepers not been great on any if them TBH

I must confess on a similarly grumpy theme whilst Rashford has undoubtedly had a good game I am not sure it warrants the wankfest Jenas is presently partaking in.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:12:11
Keepers not been great on any if them TBH

I must confess on a similarly grumpy theme whilst Rashford has undoubtedly had a good game I am not sure it warrants the wankfest Jenas is presently partaking in.

I get it, it's a good storyline and he's clearly a lovely bloke who they all want to do well, but think he owes Danny Ward a drink!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:16:05
Jonny will be fit for Saturday ⚽️


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:16:26
Let the players attack and we look a decent side!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:18:21
Jonny Wills must be absolute shite not to get a run out for this shower. Along with Qatar and Panama,probably the worst WC finalists in my memory


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:18:35
my view:

ok we didn't create much. But we had two or three chances, not none

Wales have inexplicably been passive, keeping it as tight as they can but not attacking much at all.

They will have to go for it. I suspect they hoped to nick a 1-0 and hope Iran can hold the USA.

They could be a different team in the second half, but up to now they've been very poor.

Well called.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:23:08
Jonny Wills must be absolute shite not to get a run out for this shower. Along with Qatar and Panama,probably the worst WC finalists in my memory

They really look awful. Created nothing.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:29:16
Us and the yanks then


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:29:49
Jonny Wills must be absolute shite not to get a run out for this shower. Along with Qatar and Panama,probably the worst WC finalists in my memory

Well he plays league 2 football. As shit as Wales are, you’d be majorly worried if he was one of the top 16 best Welsh players. He’s played some good games for Town but at a really really poor standard of football.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:31:06
Grealish a player that oozes class with a ball at his feet.
Such a flair player. Wish we could see more of him in an England shirt.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:31:48
That will do very nicely.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:32:25
Well he plays league 2 football. As shit as Wales are, you’d be majorly worried if he was one of the top 16 best Welsh players. He’s played some good games for Town but at a really really poor standard of football.

Fair enough but why take him then? There's Welsh players playing in a higher league than him. And he scored in his last appearance


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:32:52
 Job done . Great to see.  Southgate deserves some praise


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:33:42
that was very very comfortable. Didn't expect that regardless of Wales first 2.

also as group toppers we play Sunday and avoid the clash with Town


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:34:18
Fair enough but why take him then? There's Welsh players playing in a higher league than him. And he scored in his last appearance

26 man squad isn't it, gotta take a few players who are more there as good tourists as you're never going to get them all game time. Same with England taking Conor Coady.

Senegal it is then. Should be a fun one to watch, can't see them setting up in a low block somehow. Game on Sunday evening.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:36:48
26 man squad isn't it, gotta take a few players who are more there as good tourists as you're never going to get them all game time. Same with England taking Conor Coady.

Senegal it is then. Should be a fun one to watch, can't see them setting up in a low block somehow. Game on Sunday evening.

Pretty much summed it up.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 20:45:19
Job done . Great to see.  Southgate deserves some praise

Will get the praise if we beat the likes of France, Spain, Brazil.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 09:00:07
26 man squad isn't it, gotta take a few players who are more there as good tourists as you're never going to get them all game time. Same with England taking Conor Coady.

Senegal it is then. Should be a fun one to watch, can't see them setting up in a low block somehow. Game on Sunday evening.

I wonder which nation have used the most players on a World Cup (…Euros too)

So after all that moaning. England qualified, topped the group, no suspensions, no injuries, no fatigue and ready to go for the knockouts - couldn’t have gone much better really could it?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 15:15:17
Tunisia going well against France Reserves.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 15:55:43
Interesting couple of minutes with Tunisia scoring (putting them second) and then Leckie getting an absolutely beauty for Aus.

Tunisia need a draw in Aus-Den, Den need a win and Aus need to win if Tunisia do.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:19:19
Interesting couple of minutes with Tunisia scoring (putting them second) and then Leckie getting an absolutely beauty for Aus.

Tunisia need a draw in Aus-Den, Den need a win and Aus need to win if Tunisia do.


I bet none of French nationals are calling for their manager to go for his group management in their final (redundant) game…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:21:54

I bet none of French nationals are calling for their manager to go for his group management in their final (redundant) game…


I hear Lez Ville End is in meltdown.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:24:28
I hear Lez Ville End is in meltdown.

faire avancer


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:28:55
Only a small sample size but Harry Souttar looks solid.

Only played once for Stoke his season (….assume injured?) otherwise would be a decent (but probably unlikely) loan option in Jan.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:31:47
Saw this posted on Twitter, don’t know if it’s true, but would confirm what I’ve always believed that England always seems to do better when the game is in BBC

“England's World Cup TV record since 1998:

BBC: 12 wins out of 16, 75% win rate
ITV: 2 wins out of 15 games, 13% win rate”


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:32:51
Well, fair play to the Aussies, didn't see that combination of results coming!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:35:24
Tunisia beat France. If you are going to go out, that's the way to do it.

VAR VAR VAR...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 16:36:34
BBC: 12 wins out of 16, 75% win rate
ITV: 2 wins out of 15 games, 13% win rate”

Well played Senegal!

Euro & WC combined from 2010:
ITV P17 W3 D9 L5   (17.6% win rate)
BBC P14 W10 D2 L2  (71.4% win rate)

https://www.nationalworld.com/sport/football/world-cup/itv-england-curse-world-cup-tv-3936040

ITV:
World Cup 2022: England 0-0 USA
Euro 2020: England 0 - 0 Scotland, Czech Republic 0 - 1 England, England 2 - 1 Denmark, England 1 - 1 Italy
World Cup 2018: England 0 - 1 Belgium, Colombia 1 - 1 England (ENG win 4-3 on pens), Croatia 2 - 1 England, Belgium 2 - 0 England
Euro 2016: England 1 - 1 Russia, Slovakia 0 - 0 England, England 1 - 2 Iceland
World Cup 2014: Uruguay 2 - 1 England, Costa Rica 0 - 0 England
Euro 2012: France 1 - 1 England, England 1 - 0 Ukraine
World Cup 2010: England 1 - 1 USA, England 0 - 0 Algeria,

BBC:
BBC Results
World Cup 2022: England 6-2 Qatar, Wales 0-3 England
Euro 2020: England 1 - 0 Croatia, England 2 - 0 Germany, Ukraine 0 - 4 England , England 1 - 1 Italy
World Cup 2018: Tunisia 1 - 2 England, England 6 - 1 Panama, Sweden 0 - 2 England,
Euro 2016: England 2 - 1 Wales
World Cup 2014: England 1 - 2 Italy
Euro 2012: Sweden 2 - 3 England, England 0 - 0 Italy (ITA win 4-2 on pens)
World Cup 2010: Slovenia 0 - 1 England, Germany 4 - 1 England


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 17:09:10
A Poland and Saudi win tonight please.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 18:39:23
Come on Poland.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:10:01
The Saudi v Mexico game is livening up  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:12:06
Come on Poland.

I support Poland but watching them play brings me back to when Town played under Sheridan. Lack of ideas going forward and just hoping to keep a clean sheet and get a miracle goal from somewhere.


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:14:14
fucking hell. that penalty is worse than Ronaldo's. never ever

saved


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:16:05
Really glad the penalty just given for Szczęsny touching Messi in the face with his glove was saved, absolute joke of a decision.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:23:41
I support Poland but watching them play brings me back to when Town played under Sheridan. Lack of ideas going forward and just hoping to keep a clean sheet and get a miracle goal from somewhere.

They are still yet to concede though.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:24:57
Poland doing their best Wales impression so far .


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:27:22
Yeah, the penalty award for Portugal the other day was bad this one was even worse.

Poland won't survive this as it stands. Need to be much better on the counter in 2nd half to stand a chance.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:39:21
Zabaleta has a funny old accent, definitely some Manc in there...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:43:23
Ffs, wish the commentators would stop dribbling over the Argie support.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:45:06
Both ends of the stadium 😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:46:22
Not many protesting about the cup then.

Thay have a drum, says it all.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:47:43
Too busy playing drums


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 19:52:49
Yeah, the penalty award for Portugal the other day was bad this one was even worse.

Messi & Ronaldo scoring is what they want


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:04:36
Poland are second on fair play as it stands

that's no way to separate teams.

I suspect though that Argentina will take care of the issue


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:08:37
Poland are second on fair play as it stands

that's no way to separate teams.

I suspect though that Argentina will take care of the issue
Where does it go after yellow cards?

That Alvarez looks quite a player, didn't know he was at City.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:09:28
Danny Murphy equating Poland's lack of yellows in this game with failure to have a go at Argentina.  :no:


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:13:53
Where does it go after yellow cards?

That Alvarez looks quite a player, didn't know he was at City.

Toss


Title: Re: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:15:12
Toss
What? Who can knock one out the quickest?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:31:55
All over.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:32:59
Actually, they still only need to score 1


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:37:57
Can't have been many WC groups where the team that finished bottom beat the team that finished top (especially when it wasn't in a dead rubber final game)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 20:55:18
The Argentinian fans are a great spectacle to watch.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 08:38:19
Indeed, the South American fans along with the African fans generate a proper atmosphere.

It's been noticeable to me that the European fans have been very quiet in comparison


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 08:45:24
Indeed, the South American fans along with the African fans generate a proper atmosphere.

It's been noticeable to me that the European fans have been very quiet in comparison
That’s because they’re not pissed up.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 09:04:43

It's been noticeable to me that the European fans have been very quiet in comparison

That's unfair, England have a band you know!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: swindon74 on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 10:32:17
The Argentinian fans are a great spectacle to watch.

I was in Buenos Aires for the 2014 World Cup final, watched in the city centre on a big screen. As soon as that late German goal went in, it got very tense! A few Argentinan eyes locked onto me and instantly got accused of being a German and was chased into a hotel! Luckily they let me chill in a room until I could make my escape back to my hostel! They went mental, shop windows smashed all over the city, and cars turned over! I suppose you get idiot fans everywhere, but they are a very passionate and angry bunch when they are on the booze! 


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 10:47:21
I was in Buenos Aires for the 2014 World Cup final, watched in the city centre on a big screen. As soon as that late German goal went in, it got very tense! A few Argentinan eyes locked onto me and instantly got accused of being a German and was chased into a hotel! Luckily they let me chill in a room until I could make my escape back to my hostel! They went mental, shop windows smashed all over the city, and cars turned over! I suppose you get idiot fans everywhere, but they are a very passionate and angry bunch when they are on the booze! 

These sorts of stories make me laugh because the constant narrative is the big bad English and football hooliganism being The English disease. Even seen a Welsh guy complaining about The English the other day utterly convinced that Welsh hooliganism doesn't exist.

England fans can be cunts but the hate boner for them by the media and other teams fans is completely disproportionate to reality when you look at other nations.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 12:00:30
Quote from: swindon74
I . As soon as that late German goal went in, it got very tense! A few Argentinan eyes locked onto me and instantly got accused of being a German  

would that actually be worse than saying you were English though 😁


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 14:52:52
VAR is still colossally wank


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 16:29:30
Lukaku is officially turd. 3 chances but the last one in particular  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 16:30:26
He always looks like he's sulking.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 16:31:58
Belgium out.

Morocco top the group. Who saw that coming?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 16:40:06
Wow that's a big surprise Belgium going out it seems they peaked a couple of years ago.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 16:47:23
Belgium out.

Morocco top the group. Who saw that coming?

Kevin De Bruyne seemed to...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 18:48:20
The Germans are going to Germany their way into the next round  ::)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 18:51:59
The Germans are going to Germany their way into the next round  ::)

If by ‘Germany their way’ you mean ‘win games of football’ then yeah probably.
Historically they’ve been quite good at that in fairness.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:05:45
 This world cup is just getting better and better in my view


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:41:14
Get in Japan  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:45:32
Goodness gracious me.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:48:15
Hopefully Spain will rest some players now  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:50:33
Imagine Japan going through having beaten Germany and Spain and lost to Costa Rica. Fair fucks if anyone had money on that outcome...


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:52:30
Costa Rica equalise  ;D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:52:31
Costa Rica just need a 12 goal swing to overtake Spain here... I'd like to see it happen! (or of course, to win themselves, which would be remarkable).


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 19:59:31
They only need 1 goal more to move aboce Spsin. If Costa Rica win and Japan win it’s bye bye Spain and Germany.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:03:11
It's on Aud  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Edit for, 2 mins


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:03:47
Well that massively swung since I last looked…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:03:57
STOP THE COUNT


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:05:21
It’s swung again in the time it took me to make my last post about it


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:05:52
As it stands Spain & Germany would follow Belgium out of the World Cup.

I’m assuming it’s Southgate’s fault 😂


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:06:53
It’s swung again in the time it took me to make my last post about it

Boo


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:07:13
As it stands Spain & Germany would follow Belgium out of the World Cup.

I’m assuming it’s Southgate’s fault 😂

Spain will go through as it stands


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:07:48
…and to think our biggest gripe has been a 0-0 draw with the US.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:08:34
This is brilliant


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:08:50
Spain will go through as it stands

Germany scored by the time I posted.

Ironic that a Germany goal sends Spain through


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:21:50
And now a Spain goal would send Germany through


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:22:18
Germany scored an offside goal, watch Spain score now.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:23:39
All eyes on Japan now.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:28:25
Fantastic  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:29:38
Well, that is brilliant.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:32:17
Just a shame Costa Rica couldn’t hang on at 2-1.

Again shit likes and Belgium puts some context around how well we’ve done so far


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:33:22
Superb achievement by Japan


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 20:42:20
Souness   :zzz:


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 21:18:32
unbelievable

Auf Wiedersehen, Pet


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, December 1, 2022, 21:20:47
On the plus side, the German kit is lovely.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 2, 2022, 07:42:58
Makes you wonder if Spain wanted to lose. Knocks out a main rival and gives them a knockout game v Morocco rather than Croatia.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, December 2, 2022, 08:32:09
Makes you wonder if Spain wanted to lose. Knocks out a main rival and gives them a knockout game v Morocco rather than Croatia.

If they did, they're decent actors - at full time they looked like they genuinely weren't sure whether they were through or not.

Agree on the German kit, very nice.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Friday, December 2, 2022, 10:02:41
I need to tell the wife that there is no strictly on tomorrow night because of the football. She is off out tonight so will miss it.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 2, 2022, 10:03:51
I need to tell the wife that there is no strictly on tomorrow night because of the football. She is off out tonight so will miss it.

Could she not watch strictly on the Iplayer on another device?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 2, 2022, 10:19:33
I need to tell the wife that there is no strictly on tomorrow night because of the football. She is off out tonight so will miss it.
‘Do a little dance.
Make a little love.
Get down tonight!’


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 2, 2022, 12:43:17
Just catching up on his most recent cartoons, Town fan David Squires is pretty scathing about the whole thing. https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/nov/29/david-squires-on-the-workers-view-of-qatar-world-cup-moments-so-far


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 2, 2022, 14:33:50
All Ghana?


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, December 2, 2022, 14:54:12
All Ghana?
Fingers crossed.

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 2, 2022, 14:57:30
Tune in to this one, guys. Ghana miss a pen and it’s kicking off


Title: Re: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, December 2, 2022, 14:58:44
Tune in to this one, guys. Ghana miss a pen and it’s kicking off
Stereotypical slow/shit penalty

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Friday, December 2, 2022, 15:28:16
Suarez to score and celebrates by biting a Ghana fan


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 2, 2022, 16:34:20
Hang in there Ghana  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, December 2, 2022, 16:35:07
What a finish again.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 2, 2022, 16:42:55
Another amazing finish to the groups. Have to say I was 'meh' about the World Cup weeks ago but I am now hooked, on the pitch it's been fantastic.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, December 2, 2022, 16:55:32
Suarez to score and celebrates by biting a Ghana fan

Watching the horrible little fucker cry is one of the highlights of the World Cup so far


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Friday, December 2, 2022, 18:08:48
Watching the horrible little fucker cry is one of the highlights of the World Cup so far

It definitely made my day.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, December 2, 2022, 19:10:00
Draught excluders in a wall😀


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 2, 2022, 19:34:34
‘Do a little dance.
Make a little love.
Get down tonight!’


https://youtu.be/gKCLS7FhlqU


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, December 2, 2022, 20:43:22
With those results, England have the best group stage record of any team. Quite something.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Friday, December 2, 2022, 20:56:01
With those results, England have the best group stage record of any team. Quite something.
And Wales the worst (but for Qatar and Canada).

I think all the teams, bar Qatar, have managed at least one impressive performance, never mind the real shock results and qualifications.  Happy bookies?

This has been the best tournament I can recall in terms of the drama of the Group Stages.  Despite FIFA's best efforts.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, December 2, 2022, 22:23:12
With those results, England have the best group stage record of any team. Quite something.

But Southgate…..


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, December 3, 2022, 08:14:29
But Southgate…..

But he has a waistcoat


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Saturday, December 3, 2022, 09:11:15
Watching the horrible little fucker cry is one of the highlights of the World Cup so far

Loved it. Brilliant player, but a vile weasel of a man


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, December 3, 2022, 10:31:34
With those results, England have the best group stage record of any team. Quite something.

Only 4 teams went through the group without defeat.
Netherlands, England, the US & Morocco

Ok, so some teams were done after game two and made ally of changes for the last game but still


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, December 3, 2022, 19:00:43
Not often I'd happily say this....

COME ON AUSSIES


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, December 3, 2022, 19:45:19
That's what Clem is saying!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Shizzle on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 15:45:49
Hi all,

Not read the whole thread so apologies if it’s already been written. I fancy venturing out for the England games. Anywhere with a big screen and bouncing atmosphere? TIA x


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:23:53
This Mbappe lad has something about him.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:33:52
mbappe is the best in the world at the moment without doubt.

should keepers be penalised for strikers stuttering and dummying their penalties? its a bit of farce even thought it didn't matter.



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:36:48
No, rules are simple.  Move when the ball is struck.  Move before that to try and cheat/beat the timing, you take the risk of what happened.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:39:43
No, rules are simple.  Move when the ball is struck.  Move before that to try and cheat/beat the timing, you take the risk of what happened.

but the striker is cheating the timing in the run up. pretending to shoot and then stopping seems to get you a free pass if you miss


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:41:14
So what?  They can run around in circles if they like.  Don't move until he hits it.  It's not supposed to be easy.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:49:30
but the striker is cheating the timing in the run up. pretending to shoot and then stopping seems to get you a free pass if you miss

What happened to the rule that you couldn’t stop in the run up to a penalty?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 16:52:03
Hi all,

Not read the whole thread so apologies if it’s already been written. I fancy venturing out for the England games. Anywhere with a big screen and bouncing atmosphere? TIA x

Steam will be good. Donkey potentially but will be hit and miss due to being a Sunday. Have fun 👍


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 17:21:54
Saka for Rashford only change. Bit harsh on Rashford maybe, but plenty to like about the team.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 17:25:02
What happened to the rule that you couldn’t stop in the run up to a penalty?
well the rules are apparently simple. but they open for interpretation as always.

If, before the ball is in play, the player taking the penalty kick feints to kick the ball:
in the run-up: permitted. Once the kicker has completed the run-up: not permitted

so it seems like players can do it with momentum. but if they stand still and feint the shot its a yellow card offence.

players are pushing this to the limit as they will always do


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Shizzle on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 17:34:36
Steam will be good. Donkey potentially but will be hit and miss due to being a Sunday. Have fun 👍
Thanks. I’m preempting a win tonight and lining up a sesh with an atmosphere for next Saturdays Q final game  :beers:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 17:44:45
So what?  They can run around in circles if they like.  Don't move until he hits it.  It's not supposed to be easy.
Except the stutter on the successful penalty saw at least one Polish player appear to encroach before the ball was kicked.  

Order a 2nd re-take.  :zzz:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 17:52:28
Except the stutter on the successful penalty saw at least one Polish player appear to encroach before the ball was kicked. 

Order a 2nd re-take.  :zzz:


And (I think) the keeper was also off his line for the re-take but I guess it didn't matter as he didn't save it?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 18:09:32
The balance should be in favour of goalkeepers to make it more of a contest


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 18:16:31
Sterling has a family matter and is not in the squad. May be out the world cup


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 18:26:41
Mbappe is a problem no doubt. Probably have to stick Trippier touch tight on him with Walker covering the space in a back 3/5.

Elsewhere I don't think the French are any better than us.

Still, we have a game to win here tonight. Stress free please.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 18:42:35
Still, we have a game to win here tonight. Stress free please.

It's on ITV, it's going to be a long night.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:02:48
Ffs, come on.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:03:20
Senegal's press is really high and really good. Need to go over the top a bit, there's space in behind their full backs.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:04:35
first 20 was ok

slow, slow, slow now


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:05:12
This is going to penalties


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:05:33
Fuck me this is boring


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:06:17
All Senegal so far.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:06:19
This is going to penalties

I think they'll slow down and there'll be more space in the second half, but it'll be frustrating for a while yet.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:06:28
And we moan about watching Swindon!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:06:48
It really is like watching Swindon isn’t it.

Passing for passing sake & no threat.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:10:26
Wank

Thank fuck for that


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:13:59
Shhhhhh.

Let it be noted that that came from Kane dropping short, the eternal complaint of England twitter.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:14:45
a bit of quality, phew


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:15:07
…and that’s what we lack at Swindon. Jephcott dropping deep to hold up the and midfielders getting past him.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Godd002 on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:15:11
Nice!!!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:15:13
Good goal that. Completely undeserved


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:22:52
Game over. Fair play to England


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:22:56
booom


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:23:12
Wish Swindon could do the odd break and pass like that!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:23:56
Been much better since the goal. Start wasn't good but I think we need to calm down a bit about not being in top all the time, sometimes you have to feel your opponent out a bit.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:24:04
Thatll do nicely


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:24:25
…and that’s what we lack at Swindon. Jephcott dropping deep to hold up the and midfielders getting past him.
Glad we are on the same wavelength, likening this to more important games! 😂


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:24:30
Knife through butter. Bellingham is a wonderful player


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:27:33
Knife through butter. Bellingham is a wonderful player

Whoever advised him to go to Dortmund when leaving Birmingham rather than going to a Manchester United/Manchester City/Chelsea where he’d sit in their U23 squad with various loan spells for 5 years - got it absolutely spot on.

Any lower league young player take note.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:28:16
Bellingham n.n.n.n.n nineteen. Ffs.
Outstanding for both goals.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:29:00
See what happens when we stop pissing around at the back and attack with pace :pint:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:31:07
He's going to break all the England appearance records.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:34:26
This Gerrard advert genuinely appears to have been written by an AI trained on pure bollocks. It doesn't mean anything, just sounds vaguely positive and futuristic.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: oxonrobin on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:37:18
Good start and end to the half. Senegal are pressing their wide men very high, but it is leaving massive gaps in behind. It took England way too long to see it.

Should see this out now though. :nod:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:50:46
Sweet


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:51:52
Great finish


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Boy About Town on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 19:58:25
It’s coming…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:04:16
Kane off now please. Maybe Bellingham too.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:05:08
Shit head on


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:06:06
Gonna concede in a minute.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:15:33
Only 7 shots. Southgate out.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:22:20
other than the very dodgy 20, very comfortable.

scored at the front time.

bring on Les bleus


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:29:10
Well that was very satisfactory. Three very hard games from this point on, but we've put ourselves in the quarters and that's all you can do at this stage.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:32:10
Buzzing after that. Its not rocket science to say that the next round will be a real test


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:32:22
Might stay out after the Dons game next Saturday. Best place to watch, that doesn't involve a taxi?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 21:08:18
er, tentative link:

We've put in a request to the EFL and hosts @Official_STFC for an earlier kick-off time on Saturday, to allow time for Dons to travel back in time for England's World Cup quarter-final 🏆

We'll let you know as soon as possible after a decision has been made 🗓️

#AFCW 🟡🔵


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 21:46:25
er, tentative link:

We've put in a request to the EFL and hosts @Official_STFC for an earlier kick-off time on Saturday, to allow time for Dons to travel back in time for England's World Cup quarter-final 🏆

We'll let you know as soon as possible after a decision has been made 🗓️

#AFCW 🟡🔵
Thx for the heads up.  Surely the England game should be put back an hour?  ;)

Hoping to have a table booked at the Three Guineas by Reading Station for 6.30 on the way back to Guildford.





Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 23:39:11
Whatever the plan is for next weekend,  I will be pissed  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: tans on Monday, December 5, 2022, 08:15:26
Its not as if it was known this was a possibility, other teams have changed kick off before yesterdays game knowing that it was probable England getting through.. Not fair on people who already have travel booked etc if it is changed imo.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 08:28:10
Been much better since the goal. Start wasn't good but I think we need to calm down a bit about not being in top all the time, sometimes you have to feel your opponent out a bit.

Football fans in demanding everything yesterday shocker!!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, December 5, 2022, 10:12:48
Office Xmas party next Saturday, we're supposed to sit down for dinner at 7pm.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 10:20:22
Office Xmas party next Saturday, we're supposed to sit down for dinner at 7pm.

Doh! I reckon quite a few office parties arranged for Saturday will be scrambling around/suffering some call offs!

We've invited some neighbours around for a few Christmas drinks from 7pm on Saturday and whilst we only expected a couple to accept, they all have! The television will very much be playing a big part next Saturday for sure!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Cheltred on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:14:32
er, tentative link:

We've put in a request to the EFL and hosts @Official_STFC for an earlier kick-off time on Saturday, to allow time for Dons to travel back in time for England's World Cup quarter-final 🏆

We'll let you know as soon as possible after a decision has been made 🗓️

#AFCW 🟡🔵
I'd guess they can hardly refuse the requests but it's odd that a lot of clubs moved last Saturday's kick-off in case England were playing (i.e. if they came 2nd in the group when in fact they won it) but no one considered reaching the quarters until now when (as far as you can rely on England!) It was always likely that we would. By the way if we are in the 3rd place game it is the following Saturday at 3.00, or will no one be interested in that?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:17:07
We've (rightly in my mind) refused to change the kickoff time as it would potentially have put out our fans who have made travel arrangements etc.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:20:04
Dons fans are more than welcome to stay on in Swindon, watch the game & enjoy some hospitality.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:22:25
We've (rightly in my mind) refused to change the kickoff time as it would potentially have put out our fans who have made travel arrangements etc.
I understand Wimbledon have withdrawn the request.


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:25:31
Makes sense. Yesterday many of there fans weren't terribly happy given they had already booked train tickets, etc.
------------
UPDATE: Discussions have taken place within the Club and it has been deemed that requesting to move the kick-off time for Swindon may be detrimental to fans who have already bought tickets and made travel arrangements 📢

The kick-off time will remain at 3pm.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:30:52
With sub zero temperatures forecast Wednesday, Thursday & Friday there is a chance the game maybe called off due to a frozen pitch.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:36:48
Hadn't thought of that. -4 is about where the frost covers can cope isn't it. Right on the cusp (-5 to -8 is what I've read, spending on how good they are).


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:39:48
Sub zero in Qatar. Nah. I think that the game will be ok.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:41:21
Hadn't thought of that. -4 is about where the frost covers can cope isn't it. Right on the cusp (-5 to -8 is what I've read, spending on how good they are).

Let's hope they have the covers on all week.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 11:44:33
sorry, will start new thread


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 13:29:04
I understand Wimbledon have withdrawn the request.

I guess they got negative fan feedback and listened to what was said. I believe Walsall asked Salford to do the same and were told to bolt, but Northampton and Harrogate have agreed to move their game to 1pm.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 15:27:51
Japan ahead and well worthy of their lead against Croatia. Entertaining game.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, December 5, 2022, 15:33:08
Croatia No.4 ball watching when it span loose and hardly reacted when the Japanese player nipped in and whacked it home. Greetings from a mild and damp Morocco.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 15:55:31
oh, hope the weather improves.

Croatia on top now


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:10:36
oh, hope the weather improves.

Croatia on top now

Sunnier tomorrow and all day sunshine on Wednesday #mankini or budgiesmugglers 🤔


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:12:44
Should have shot himself. Well not with a weapon of course.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:04:24
Japan fans singing the same song all game long without break.

Tedious.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:13:46
penalties and first blood Croatia


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:17:33
Sayonara.

I've seen Swindon make a better first of them then Japan.

They did well though did Japan


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:22:42
Japan's penalties might be some of the worst I've seen. Not near the corners, little power. Good saves too.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, December 5, 2022, 19:05:49
Okay this is Brazil laying down a marker


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 19:34:57
Okay this is Brazil laying down a marker

South Korea have attempted to go toe to toe with them and are getting beaten up, badly!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, December 5, 2022, 20:33:55
Respectful way Brazil behaved towards S Korea tonight as well as their acknowledgment of Pele shames those wankers from Argentina. You’d have thought they’d won the WC after beating Australia.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Monday, December 5, 2022, 20:54:33
Brazil have now used all 26 of their players this tournament


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, December 5, 2022, 21:02:12
Respectful way Brazil behaved towards S Korea tonight as well as their acknowledgment of Pele shames those wankers from Argentina. You’d have thought they’d won the WC after beating Australia.
I didnt think the penalty celebration or the dancing by the coach and squad was very respectful


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Monday, December 5, 2022, 21:18:23
Brazil were brilliant. And that was probably the worst penalty decision I’ve ever seen


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 05:35:11
I didnt think the penalty celebration or the dancing by the coach and squad was very respectful

Missed that bit but I still by what I said about the Argies.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 11:03:26
After today, there is 48 hours with no football matches on. This is a disgrace.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 11:13:34
Quote from: Nemo
After today, there is 48 hours with no football matches on. This is a disgrace.

careful what you wish for!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 11:18:42
Really looking forward to Morocco v Spain today though, think that could be a properly good game, Morocco have plenty about them. Switzerland v Portugal will probably be duller and tighter, but actually both games could definitely go either way.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 11:21:26
yeah, have we had an upset in knockout yet? not really.

come on Morocco


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 12:09:20
Brazil- South Korea reminded me a bit of Swindon v Man City, we knew we were toast but played our way and just wanted to score.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 15:01:06
Morocco's passing it around at the back makes me feel a lot better about Town's.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Munichred on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 15:59:01
Of the two Welsh co-commentators, Danny Gabbidon is streets ahead of John Hartson, IMHO


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:24:37
Small thing, but why is the score thing in the corner Mar-Esp?



Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:31:09
While the country’s English name is Morocco, the country is known as Maroc in French

https://slate.com/culture/2018/06/why-is-morocco-abbreviated-mar-at-the-world-cup.html


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:33:09
Spain ridiculously high possession stats. Did next to fuck all with it.

Who does that remind you of?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:38:27
While the country’s English name is Morocco, the country is known as Maroc in French

https://slate.com/culture/2018/06/why-is-morocco-abbreviated-mar-at-the-world-cup.html

I suspected as much, but then we get into why Germany is GER rather than DEU for instance, as I said its a small thing but it caught my eye.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:38:54
What a chance for Maroc. Golden.

Just waited too long and didn't even get the shot away.



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:42:18
I wonder how angry Los Pueblo End gets about passing it around with no particularly intent and keeping the ball for the sake of it?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 16:45:03
Spain ridiculously high possession stats. Did next to fuck all with it.

Who does that remind you of?

Man City?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:09:34
penalties


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:19:35
Hala Maroc!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:21:04
adios


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:21:50
 :girlgiggle: Epic


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:21:51
Lovely stuff.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:27:10
The Moroccans are going nuts in the hotel. Infact they’re going nuts out in the street and nuttier on the roads, never seen anything like it, seriously.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:27:58
And over in the other game, the Portugal coach has dropped eight players including that one. Ballsy.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:28:39
Ironically Spain bring on players to take penalties (as England did in the Euros final) and they missed.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:29:29
And over in the other game, the Portugal coach has dropped eight players including that one. Ballsy.

The Swiss were my dark horse outside bet for this tournament. I fancy them to turn Portugal over.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:33:11
And over in the other game, the Portugal coach has dropped eight players including that one. Ballsy.

…Piers Morgan is already on his way.


Title: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:34:14
Quote
And over in the other game, the Portugal coach has dropped eight players including that one. Ballsy.
interesting. something gone on or just tactical?

I can hear Piers Morgan crying from here

edit: oooh https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/cristiano-ronaldo-portugal-switzerland-world-cup-2022-b1045141.html%3famp


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:49:10
This world cup is just getting better and better. Always happy to see favourites crash out.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:51:39
With a beautifully executed panenka too. What a ledge


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:55:04
Mbappe misses training today - in the recovery room instead!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 17:58:37
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Mbappe misses training today - in the recovery room instead!

please please please


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 18:53:27
What a goal from Ramos


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 20:03:35
The best bit about this performance is Ronaldo having to pretend to enjoy his replacement having a stormer.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 20:08:22
The best bit about this performance is Ronaldo having to pretend to enjoy his replacement having a stormer.

I’m sure Ronaldo would be happy to sit on the bench if it meant Portugal winning the tournament.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 20:21:02
I wouldn’t be certain about that


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 20:41:45
Quote from: Bob's Orange
The Swiss were my dark horse outside bet for this tournament. I fancy them to turn Portugal over.

honestly thought they'd push them all the way...

oh well


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 20:49:17
honestly thought they'd push them all the way...

oh well

Yeah I was completely wrong, Portugal was very good and far too strong.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 20:54:04
I’m sure Ronaldo would be happy to sit on the bench if it meant Portugal winning the tournament.
I’m not so sure about that. He is a complete narcissist and wants it to all be about him.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 08:20:43
If this world cup has taught me one thing it's how fucking annoying "putting down a marker " is.
Do piss off.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 08:28:03
That's a message of intent Mex  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 09:16:17
A real line in the sand


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 10:22:02
Copy for Lindsey

‘In the end, though, that devotion to their way of play, to monopolising possession and seeking to suffocate opponents slowly, was made to look more like a hindrance than a badge of honour.

Against Morocco, as they shuttled the ball from one side of the pitch to the other and their opponents sat back and waited to spring forward on the break, it was clear Spain were crying out for something different.

In fact, it was only after the introduction of Nico Williams in the 75th minute that they finally began to threaten, the 20-year-old's directness, his willingness to take defenders on, bringing the element of unpredictability they had sorely lacked.’


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 10:32:40
Based on what I've seen so far, the standout sides (and this is biased by the last performance really) are Brazil and Portugal. France haven't been amazing, but in Mbappe, Giroud and Griezmann have a trio that when on form can really hurt their opponents. England have done very much what has been asked of them and for me getting to the 1/4 finals is par and the game on Saturday is fascinating. Will Southgate attempt to bore the French to death for 120 minutes and rely on some magic from Bellingham or Foden?

Croatia v Brazil - I think Brazil will have too much for a talented but aged Croatian side.
Netherlands v Argentina - Clash of the Titans. I fancy the Argies to progress.
Morocco v Portugal - I definitely wouldn't fall off my chair if the North Africans won, but I think Portugal will have too much and are red hot at the moment.
England v France - Fuck it, England through on penalties. Saka to net the deciding one after Mbappe's hits the post.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 10:52:48
I think the Dutch will beat the Argies.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 12:26:07
Quote from: 4D
I think the Dutch will beat the Argies.

I don't.

only one way to find out!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 8, 2022, 10:28:06
Stones and Rice doubtful for Saturday.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 8, 2022, 13:31:16
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63901332


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, December 8, 2022, 13:35:34
I do hope that Portugal don't progress  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, December 8, 2022, 14:02:50
I do hope that Portugal don't progress  :)

The locals here seem confident. I can’t see it myself.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 09:20:41
Back to some footy today. Hopefully the Town game will be on tomorrow, then grub and pub for the England game straight after.  :pint:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, December 9, 2022, 10:30:27
The locals here seem confident. I can’t see it myself.

Didn’t realise you were on holiday


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 9, 2022, 10:48:05
 :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 11:28:06
Didn’t realise you were on holiday

Is he? Where? What's the weather like?

#notJealous


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 11:55:05
I hope LL buys a Fez and wears it to the CG


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 9, 2022, 12:44:29
Here he is, coming down to breakfast



Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 9, 2022, 12:49:58
I hope LL buys a Fez and wears it to the CG
The Mighty Tarboosh.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 9, 2022, 14:05:15
I guess one of the issues with a World Cup being scheduled as it is, there are a lot of festive parties etc and so I will miss tonight's game which should be an absolute belter (it will probably stink the place out now I have said that!)

However first up is Croatia v Brazil. The Samba kings smashed Son, Kim, Kim, Kim, Kim, Kim and co and an aging Croatia needed penalties to progress. On paper this should be a simple win for Brazil, and I suspect that's how it will go. 2-0 to Brazil is my prediction.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 9, 2022, 14:39:24
What are the chance of this actually happening, perhaps Clem could whack a bid in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63885578


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 15:00:14
They could do similar for the fence end at the Pox, wheelie bins would suffice  :)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 9, 2022, 15:23:37
Croatia the better side in that first half. Perhaps all the celebrations and pointless celebration dancing by Brazil in their win over South Korea has taken it out of them, they've looked sluggish.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 15:46:06
Croatia have played very well up to now (53)

But it's still 0-0 so....


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 16:15:29
So, didn’t know exactly which thread this would be best in but here seems as good as any.

Saw a thread on Twitter asking the question whether Bellingham is the most talented English 19 year old ever? Fair shout I suppose.

A lot of the comments mentioned certain players but then someone posted Wayne Rooney (which is a fair shout) and accompanied it with a video of him as an 19 year old playing at Euro 2004…fuck me, I think we’ve all probably forgotten just how good he was back then.

I mean, he was a good player. He had a fantastic career setting domestic and international records….and yet re-watching him at 19 - I’m not sure he even fulfilled his full potential, which is mad when you think about it…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DMC on Friday, December 9, 2022, 16:33:32
So, didn’t know exactly which thread this would be best in but here seems as good as any.

Saw a thread on Twitter asking the question whether Bellingham is the most talented English 19 year old ever? Fair shout I suppose.

A lot of the comments mentioned certain players but then someone posted Wayne Rooney (which is a fair shout) and accompanied it with a video of him as an 19 year old playing at Euro 2004…fuck me, I think we’ve all probably forgotten just how good he was back then.

I mean, he was a good player. He had a fantastic career setting domestic and international records….and yet re-watching him at 19 - I’m not sure he even fulfilled his full potential, which is mad when you think about it…
Scary isn't it. So underated when you look at the records he has for club and country. Michael Owen is another we seem to forget how good was too


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 16:46:36
Scary isn't it. So underated when you look at the records he has for club and country. Michael Owen is another we seem to forget how good was too

Looking back Michael Owen was fantastic at what he was good at (if that makes sense)
He was a small quick striker who could finish. No mean feat to be that good that young but don’t think he had anything else to his game other than that - as we saw after a plethora of hamstring injuries.

I always consider (young) Michael Owen to more of an effective football than a great footballer (if that makes sense)

Where as you look at young Rooney and there wasn’t anything he couldnt do. He could run in behind, dribble past players, hold the ball up, bully players, finish in the box, smash one on from 30 yards. Very similar to prime Alan Shearer in that respect.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 16:50:06
fair enough neymar. Decent


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, December 9, 2022, 16:50:15
Finally Brazil score


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 16:52:26
fair enough neymar. Decent

Think the defender can deal with that - if he actually bothered to go for the ball rather than trying to block Neymar off


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:00:40
For me Rooney was a more complete player than Bellingham is, Owen was a great goalscorer with a superb touch but he worked hard at it, much like Keegan before him.

Walcott broke onto the scene well as a 17 year old but in the end didnt kick on but as a teenager he has as much promise as Bellingham for me.

Bellingham though looks a real talent and complete midfielder who can score goals and be a real box to box player.

He does remind me a lot of a young Bryan Robson when he was at West Brom before his massive transfer to Man Utd, a strong, quick, tackling, passing and shooting player, excellent at all of those.

Or even of Steven Gerrard but I do think Belligham is more talented than Gerrard was, certainly at the same age.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:04:16
1-1. Game on.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:21:51
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:22:28
Brazil bottle it.

Argentina vs Portugal final written in the stars.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:22:38
Crikey


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:23:18
Honestly think it’s our year.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:24:30
soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:24:36
Honestly think it’s our year.

Kinda feel our biggest hurdle is the next one.

It’ll be out in the quarters or winners for me…


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:31:12
Croatia v Morocco final  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, December 9, 2022, 17:33:42
Kinda feel our biggest hurdle is the next one.

It’ll be out in the quarters or winners for me…

Said to my mates all week, win tomorrow and we win the lot.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, December 9, 2022, 18:06:54
I dont think we can discount any team left beating England. That’s not a dig against England, just an appreciation of how far the rest of the teams left have come in the last few years. We might be looking at a new world order


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 18:13:04
I dont think we can discount any team left beating England. That’s not a dig against England, just an appreciation of how far the rest of the teams left have come in the last few years. We might be looking at a new world order

Fair.

Don’t think we can discount England beating any of the teams left in either.
Don’t think there is a clear favourite or a clear underdog whose punching above their weight.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 9, 2022, 18:43:26
Can’t get my head around the huge number of Argentina fans v the small number of Dutch fans. Why so few? They usually take loads.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, December 9, 2022, 18:50:03
Fair.

Don’t think we can discount England beating any of the teams left in either.
Don’t think there is a clear favourite or a clear underdog whose punching above their weight.


I’d make France marginally favourites above England, and clear favourites if they beat us. But the way things are going it could be two first time finalists at the last hurdle. Exciting times!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, December 9, 2022, 18:54:46
Let’s beat Wimbledon first before we all get carried away. ;)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 18:54:52
Can’t get my head around the huge number of Argentina fans v the small number of Dutch fans. Why so few? They usually take loads.

Saving their money for the semi final  ;)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 19:16:55
How come the argies have so many fans there? Must be 50k there tonight. Other side of the world, expensive etc.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, December 9, 2022, 19:35:36
How come the argies have so many fans there? Must be 50k there tonight. Other side of the world, expensive etc.

Football ranks very highly in their life.
They really are passionate. Best steaks and women in the World mind.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, December 9, 2022, 19:49:37
‘There’s only two things I can’t stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other cultures. And the Dutch’.

Having said that I think the Dutch will come back and win this


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 19:50:41
‘There’s only two things I can’t stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other cultures. And the Dutch’.

Having said that I think the Dutch will come back and win this

They've had about as many shots as town. Reckon the argies will get 2 more.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:00:13
Pretty dull stuff.
Dutch have been very poor


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:16:22
Pretty dull stuff.
Dutch have been very poor

Yeah I take it back. Fucking Dutch


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:23:36
Come on Dutchies


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:25:01
Ok, so Croatia went through on Pens in the end but that’s both the Dutch and Croatia who *possibly* could have won their games (in normal time) if they’d both attacked from there off rather than waiting till they were behind


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:33:11
Martinez reminds me of Beaker  ;D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:36:55
 :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:37:26
wow!


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:37:58
Get fucking in  :D


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:38:04
Great free kick


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:41:00
Yet another amazing match


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:42:31
All gone quiet


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:55:26
Messi runs into someone and gets a free kick  ::)


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 20:59:14
The way Messi is being treated and talked about by the commentators anyone would think he was on his death bed and due to expire on Christmas Day as some sort of reverse Jesus thing


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:00:52
 Netherlands to win on penalties


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:04:19
The way Messi is being treated and talked about by the commentators anyone would think he was on his death bed and due to expire on Christmas Day as some sort of reverse Jesus thing

It’s nauseating.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Qunk on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:04:22
Netherlands to win on penalties

I knew it


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:05:18
Quote from: Steak supper
 Netherlands to win on penalties

Great Scott


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:05:41
Brazil and Argentina out on the same day would be great, would shut the fucking commentators up from fawning over them  :suicide:


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:08:54
Argentina might have nobody available for the semi.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:17:30
Hahaha


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:18:20
penalties again


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:18:25
 Brilliant


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:23:49
Dutch had them on the ropes at full time
No idea why they didn’t go for it on extra time.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:26:02
Ffs


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:30:07
Beaker wins it


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:30:14
Get in Argentina.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:32:25
Get in Argentina.

Always after a rise  :)
When are Poland playing?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:33:24
 Sad to see the netherlands go out


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, December 9, 2022, 21:35:38
Messi lives to die another day


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, December 9, 2022, 22:05:53
Sad to see the netherlands go out
Same. But can't say that they were the better team. Argentina stopped playing, which let the big lumps win the ball and tie the match. When Argentina started playing, the Netherlands had no mobility up front.


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: mystical_goat on Friday, December 9, 2022, 22:44:31
Argentina might have nobody available for the semi.

15 yellows in that match! 7 for the Netherlands, 8 for Argentina. Must be a World Cup record, or close. Will the teams get a token fine like in other competitions?


Title: Re: Official World Cup 2022 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, December 10, 2022, 00:01:08
17 yellows & one red I'm reading.
That includes both benches and at least one yellow brandished during the penalty shoot.

Great fun though.

Glad that "JP" is heading home. His commentary has steadily deteriorated over the tournament. That's from a relatively low bar to start with.