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Title: Jordan Lyden
Post by: lovestfc on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 23:35:14
The manager in his post match interview said Lyden has not been offered a contract as we have enough midfield players .


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: molepar on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 05:01:37
Thatís a real shame as Lyden is a wonderful player when fit. I feel that he could have been a championship standard player if he could stay fit. I hope he finds a club and manages to stay injury-free. Sad to see him go tbh but his injury record is simply dreadful.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 06:01:52
Every time he got injured I always thought back to what someone said(on here I think) a Villa fan had told them when we signed him. "Good player, made of Weetabix".


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 06:35:33
poor guy, ability not in question at this level.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 08:44:08
As Batch says, good quality when fit, but he was never fit, time we all moved on and he gets himself sorted at another club.

Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 09:00:32
Reminiscent of Stefani Muglioranzi really...great player but basically broken. Would never have been able to sign him in the first place if he wasn't...shame.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 09:22:45
The manager in his post match interview said Lyden has not been offered a contract as we have enough midfield players .

Depends how many games you get from him. He is better than some of the midfielders we have, when fit.

So just waiting for him to sign up at Orient now then.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 10:13:22
Reminiscent of Stefani Muglioranzi really...great player but basically broken. Would never have been able to sign him in the first place if he wasn't...shame.

This is the bit where DV tells us that Miglioranzi being injury prone was actually a bit of a myth.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 10:19:27
Miglioranzi started more league games in his first season here than Lyden managed in three (39 v 33)

http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=LYDENJOR
http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=MIGLIORS


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 10:31:47
Miglioranzi started more league games in his first season here than Lyden managed in three (39 v 33)

http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=LYDENJOR
http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=MIGLIORS

He also went on to do OK elsewhere after he left us.

Must confess to have not followed it closely, what is it with Lyden has he had one bad injury which has buggered him up or is he one of these players who just seems to be perpetually injured for various non connected reasons?


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Trollopeís Left Foot on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 11:30:54
I had a long chat with him after a game a couple of weeks after he ruptured his Achilles. He was telling me how players get labelled as being injury prone, but that they are never given the chance to recover properly. He said this was the case under every manager at Swindon, bar Garner. His philosophy was that you only came back into the squad once fully fit rather than back into the squad once youíve rolled off the physio table. The Achilles injury was a totally freak incident as it was non contact injury. Lastly, he was a really nice bloke who loved being at Swindon. Good luck to him wherever he ends up.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 11:39:35
I had a long chat with him after a game a couple of weeks after he ruptured his Achilles. He was telling me how players get labelled as being injury prone, but that they are never given the chance to recover properly. He said this was the case under every manager at Swindon, bar Garner. His philosophy was that you only came back into the squad once fully fit rather than back into the squad once youíve rolled off the physio table. The Achilles injury was a totally freak incident as it was non contact injury. Lastly, he was a really nice bloke who loved being at Swindon. Good luck to him wherever he ends up.

Not that I was ever anywhere near his level but I used to pretty much suffer injuries very regularly playing football including rupturing both of my Achilles which were both non contact, one happened when I was fucking jogging about and the ball was at the other end of the pitch! Obviously professional footballer these days can 'manage' their bodies with the help of sports scientists etc to avoid injuries but you can't help but wonder if poor Jordan is just destined to not have a long career due to his issues. I think Dion Conroy isn't playing at Crawley, which I assume is also down to injuries, another player who really suffered badly. 


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 12:15:01
I was going to say, it may be a freak incident in so far as most would not expect that to be when an injury occurs, but it could be evidence of an issue with the body in general.  To have had so many injuries would hint at a deeper issue with how his body is put together - problems with tendons, muscles, bones etc, can all be an underlying cause of repeated injuries.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 12:28:48
He also went on to do OK elsewhere after he left us.

Must confess to have not followed it closely, what is it with Lyden has he had one bad injury which has buggered him up or is he one of these players who just seems to be perpetually injured for various non connected reasons?
That told me then...


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 14:51:58
Off to Barrow according to Nixon just now


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: oxonrobin on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:18:17
Shame. I imagine he would represent some good value based on our model. Canít be so choosey with an injury record. Though as many have pointed out we have too many midfielders. Good luck Jordan.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 19:29:11
Jordan Lyden gave the matchday team something of the solidity and cover of Granty and, in his way, had that bit more zip about him on the ball.

No insight into injuries myself but, on the basis of what I actually saw, I'm very sorry indeed not to be seeing him return to the 1st team/matchday squad.

Wish him massively better fortune going forward.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 20:14:24
Miglioranzi started more league games in his first season here than Lyden managed in three (39 v 33)

http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=LYDENJOR
http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=MIGLIORS

My work here is done


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 20:17:49
Jordan Lyden gave the matchday team something of the solidity and cover of Granty and, in his way, had that bit more zip about him on the ball.

No insight into injuries myself but, on the basis of what I actually saw, I'm very sorry indeed not to be seeing him return to the 1st team/matchday squad.

Wish him massively better fortune going forward.

Nice comment.
Lyden was a cracking player, unfortunately that is when he was playing. Equally off the pitch a real genuine decent lad.
I think our lasting memory will be that header at Northampton away just before COVID fucked up our season. Cracking goal and so important.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 21:07:33
Good luck to him. Cracking player when fit, and committed in the way that we all want to see. Hope he does well at Barrow.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 21:16:05
Bloody good player. The Grant-Lyden-Doughty midfield was a thing of beauty.

Can understand how our budget has been used up, but can't help wondering what if we could have had the space to take the gamble. Good luck to him at Barrow.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 22, 2022, 06:22:27
My work here is done

 :D


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 22, 2022, 11:19:59
Would I risk taking Lyden for anyone marked for the first team match day XI, no way.  The budget needs to be used on those we can rely on.

Would I take Lyden over any of our rough diamond brigade and players like Aguiar, hell yes.  No offence to those players, but if I am going to get half a season at best out of a plyer, I'd have Lyden around the team over any of those based on what I have seen.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, September 22, 2022, 15:35:50

Would I take Lyden over any of our rough diamond brigade and players like Aguiar, hell yes.  No offence to those players, but if I am going to get half a season at best out of a plyer, I'd have Lyden around the team over any of those based on what I have seen.

In total agreement, good footballer who will probably come back to haunt us if he signs for Barrow.

Would have thought a short term contract might have been the way to go with him as per Egbo last season.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: DMC on Friday, September 23, 2022, 15:20:36
Would I risk taking Lyden for anyone marked for the first team match day XI, no way.  The budget needs to be used on those we can rely on.

Would I take Lyden over any of our rough diamond brigade and players like Aguiar, hell yes.  No offence to those players, but if I am going to get half a season at best out of a plyer, I'd have Lyden around the team over any of those based on what I have seen.
It is quite offensive though tbf. I would hate the club to be offering deals to 26-year-olds who have played no more than 20 games in a season and have 2 goals and 1 assist to show for 3 seasons work.

At the age of 21 Aguiar has played 16 games scored 2 and assisted 2. I love Lyden but he played that first season in a superb team and given the chance i reckon Aguiar would be as effective.



Title: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 23, 2022, 15:49:40
Different type players though. .

Aguiar showed initially to be a good ball player

I see a fully fit lyden as more of an updated khan

But khan is fit and has potential to improve. Poor old lyden is made of bulsa wood. That's the main point


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: DMC on Friday, September 23, 2022, 15:52:58
Different type players though. .

Aguiar showed initially to be a good ball player

I see a fully fit lyden as more of an updated khan

But khan is fit and has potential to improve. Poor old lyden is made of bulsa wood. That's the main point
TBF i didn't compare them but just who i think we are better off keeping.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 23, 2022, 15:59:40
I would take Lyden, with all his injury concerns over every midfielder in our squad bar Gladwin, Williams, Khan, probably Darcy and Reed (although I really worry we won't see the best of him anymore) - assuming it was a straight battle with one persons wage.  If Lyden was asking for more than that it becomes less clear.  Academic now anyway, we already committed the spend elsewhere.


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 23, 2022, 18:58:51
Quote from: DMC
TBF i didn't compare them but just who i think we are better off keeping.

yeah, fair point


Title: Re: Jordan Lyden
Post by: Rodney on Friday, September 23, 2022, 23:00:56
Great player, made of glass. But no re-sale value. Thatís the real reason heís going.