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Title: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 06:43:12
2nd leg.

A few Vale fans think they have it in the bag for the second leg. Seeing as we have already battered them 3-1 at their place, plus we are the top away side in the league, I'm not so sure.

I think it will be a bit scrappy again, hope we overcome their tactics.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, May 16, 2022, 06:45:13
2nd leg.

A few Vale fans think they have it in the bag for the second leg. Seeing as we have already battered them 3-1 at their place, plus we are the top away side in the league, I'm not so sure.

I think it will be a bit scrappy again, hope we overcome their tactics.

Poke in an early goal and that should be enough.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, May 16, 2022, 07:19:53
First goal will be crucial - Its not over yet and its not a given that we will go there and not lose!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:15:37
We are more than capable of completely fucking it up BUT, we are the best away side in the league and we are on a roll.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:34:11
Have we sold out?
No tickets available online, unsure if they've taken them down for some unknown reason.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:36:02
Anybody popping to a pub to watch this? Might be good for a meet up.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:39:09
Quote from: skiptotheLouMacari
Have we sold out?
No tickets available online, unsure if they've taken them down for some unknown reason.

suspect they've taken them down to remove the ST restriction

Go on GS at 10am


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:48:52
Meant to be on GS this morning but not showing up as yet


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:49:25
ok. not there. maybe a sell out


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:52:07
We are delighted to announce that tickets for our Second-Leg tie at @OfficialPVFC are now SOLD OUT.

Thank you for your tremendous support!

If any become available; we will communicate that information ASAP.

See you Thursday!

#STFC 🔴⚪️ https://t.co/mpS1a1VwIr


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:52:57
Ah that would explain it then!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 08:54:47
Bound to be spares in the home end  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 16, 2022, 09:03:27
Fans of both teams seem confident. I guess I'd be if I were a Vale fan getting a late goal after a poor performance when really they should have been 3 down. They seemed very happy after.

I think they'll be boisterous and really up for it so we'll have to weather a storm. I said before the game I don't think even a 2 goal swing either way in the first leg would be decisive. I don't think an early Town goal is game over either. You really never know with the playoffs! They have a massive pitch I think which will suit us more, but that won't matter if we don't show up. Players seemed really calm yesterday after the game and we'll need those level heads.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, May 16, 2022, 09:07:23
I have a spare adult ticket available (face value £20 cash only) for Thursdays match as I am unfortunately unable to go due to a medical procedure that has been arranged at short notice.

My son and his partner are travelling up from Bristol and will have the spare ticket with them. DM me if you want the ticket (first come first served) he can meet up with you before the game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, May 16, 2022, 09:11:58
So port vale: complained we only gave them 2200 instead of 4000. Queued up at midnight to get tickets but only sold 1690 out of 2200. Moved us stands to give us less tickets. Ours don’t make general sale.

Please beat these twats


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: sir windon on Monday, May 16, 2022, 09:33:15
Listened to the post match phone in on Radio Stoke (BBC Sounds) yesterday. Vale fans trying to sound confident but struggling to convince themselves really.
They are terrified of our nippy, mobile, attacking qualities up against their lumbering neanderthals. They have only had one good result in the last month or so.
Of course they could still edge this but we should be in with a decent chance now.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 09:33:56
League 2 division footprint for the season.

https://experimental361.com/2022/05/16/league-2-table-footprints-2021-22/

Interestingly only Swindon and FGR have stayed in the top half of the table all season, every other team have fallen lower during the entire 46 game season.

Its an omen I tells ya!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:16:54
Don’t know why, but the first thing I thought when I saw this pic of where Town fans will be housed at VP is Selhurst Park



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:37:23
Some early thoughts from Vale fans.

Quote
There was quite clearly more than 1,659 Vale there. We sold more on the first day of sales. Absolutely no chance another 600 could fit in there. Definitely looked more like 1.9 to 2k on TV.

Have they Swindon sold there allocation if so can someone take the roof off and if not raining use a hosepipe and there lot be drenched like we were today .
Not bitter just think you should have some of your own medicine .

Impetus is with the Vale pulling the deficit back to a single goal, so go on to put the game to bed without extra time and penalties.

They were nothing special today. Yes the probably deserved a one goal lead but that's about it. So my dream for Thursday is Mckirdy scoring a late own goal to send us to Wembley. That would make me so happy

Hopefully little mardarse Jonny dives in his own area and knocks the ball into his own net.
Then McTurdys 525th spit goes into the keepers eye and Wilson taps it in
2-0 game over

It will be a completely different game Thursday, today we had 1600 fans in an away end with no roof so crap acoustics, also they were soaked to the skin so not very enthusiastic, Thursday there will be around 11/12000 so a 12th man for sure.

Swindon didn’t look all that good to me, but obviously McKirdy is dangerous, as well as being quite annoying.

I came out that ground thinking can do them 4-2 on Thursday

I think we’ll do it. Their players and fans will get a huge shock by the noise. They aren’t noisy even at home.

Swindon were crying out for the final whistle today, lets not do ourselves down we were hurting them late on.

I think the arrogance of Swindle beggars belief.
Sticking out fans in an uncovered shitehole of a stadium with broken seats and 10 portaloos. Is this acceptable? No
Then there's the after match interviews. Again...full of arrogance.
Swindle think they've beaten us already.
However I look forward to their millions of fans travelling on a Thursday night. And the one turnstile open. And the one kiosk. And the one set of toilets.
On the pitch? We need to give everything as it's the last home game of the season.
Off the pitch? Irrespective of the team selection we also need to give everything as it's the last home game of the season.
We're still in the tie and there's no reason why we can't win

We should have brought someone, who we can afford to have suspended and told them to make sure Mckirdy isnt fit for the second leg.

Hopefully being behind will work in our favour and we will be on the front foot from the off. We need that early goal to put the tie level and hopefully we can get the job done with the crowd behind us and we can keep the back door shut.

One stat that dosnt make good reading though is that we have only managed 2 home wins against teams in the top 11 this season, that was mansfield and sutton and Swindons away record is fantastic. We do though tend have more success against teams who come to attack like mansfield so reasons to stay positive and hoping for a 3-1 vale win.

Wonder if sky will have a more favourable pundits toward the Vale , went the match yesterday and seeing some of the post match coverage it was very biased towards Swindon!!

Swindon have sold out and want more tickets.

****ing whistle Swindle.

If they use the sprinkler machine before kick off they should turn it on the bycars and soak the feckers , now you know how we felt

We’re a better side than these. 3-0



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:51:56
Don’t know why, but the first thing I thought when I saw this pic of where Town fans will be housed at VP is Selhurst Park



That's not the stand we will be in. Their fans will be in that end and we'll be in the opposite stand, the Bycars.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:54:08
"Swindon didn't look that got to me"

kind of agree, we can play much better


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:55:20
They're like Northern rovers fans  :D
We didn't play up to our usual level and still won. :pint:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:56:29
"Swindon didn't look that got to me"

kind of agree, we can play much better

Definitely not. Vale's gameplan stopped us from having too much possession but unlike earlier in the season we were able to at least create opportunities by mixing it up and using Davison's presence and Mckirdy and Barry's running into the flanks rather than just pointlessly passing it endlessly across the backline.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:57:25
Whatever happened to Northern hospitality?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:59:03
Reg would love this #BurslemFC


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 10:59:42
"Swindon didn't look that got to me"

kind of agree, we can play much better
They think that just because they didnt play well that we always play like that.

News story...

We can play a lot better than that, yet, we still won!

That was probably our poorest performance since Orient or Newport and very unlike us of late.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:01:45
Some early thoughts from Vale fans.


I had nothing in particular against PV (the other one  ;) ) before the game, but the mix of the neolithic, the embittered, the precious and the downright delusional has put me right off them.

You don't get to be hard northern bastards and whine about the state of other people's shitholes too.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:04:38
"Not bitter just think you should have some of your own medicine ."

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:07:28
What's the weather forecast for Thursday night in Stoke? A balmy late evening sunset 15C would suit our game nicely thanks. And serve them right.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:08:51
Sky Sports have now confirmed that VAR will be used in All 3 upcoming play off finals.

If we get there of course.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:10:42
I had nothing in particular against PV (the other one  ;) ) before the game, but the mix of the neolithic, the embittered, the precious and the downright delusional has put me right off them.

You don't get to be hard northern bastards and whine about the state of other people's shitholes too.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
They really are bitter arent they!

Living up North must be awful if it makes you so bitter on a daily basis, so tell me, why did Stoke born Robbie Williams move down to near Swindon to live? :D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:17:37
How do yellow cards work from semi finals in case we get to final?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:18:54
Seb Stockbridge confirmed as ref for Thursday.

Not reffed Town this season but has officiated 36 games with 111 yellow cards and 5 reds, only given 2 pens.

Reffed us once last season, the 3-2 away win at Ipswich.


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:19:03
Quote
What's the weather forecast for Thursday night in Stoke? A balmy late evening sunset 15C would suit our game nicely thanks. And serve them right.
you may get your wish. forecast isn't far off that. But it's a bit early to be sure

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2654225


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RWB Robin on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:27:25
Just a little geography lesson.....no way is PV a northern club....its just a non-entity from the West Midlands. Just saying.....


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:38:00
How do yellow cards work from semi finals in case we get to final?
Had a look on the ELF website and not found anything on it yet. I would imagine it's treated like a league game in that regard, with a red card or the usual totals of yellows leading to a suspension.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:38:23
Fucking hell, some football fans (and I include some of ours) are pearl clutching whinging pathetic twats. Jesus if our 9 year old came out with some of that I would tell her to grow up!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:39:29
Just a little geography lesson.....no way is PV a northern club....its just a non-entity from the West Midlands. Just saying.....
Cultural North South divide.

(https://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/england-north-south.png)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:40:00
Fucking hell, some football fans (and I include some of ours) are pearl clutching whinging pathetic twats. Jesus if our 9 year old came out with some of that I would tell her to grow up!
You won't like my last post then ;)

Its a football forum, as is theirs, its a bit of fun.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:41:39
Had a look on the ELF website and not found anything on it yet. I would imagine it's treated like a league game in that regard, with a red card or the usual totals of yellows leading to a suspension.

What was Will Ferrell saying about it? :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:43:58
I have a spare adult ticket available (face value £20 cash only) for Thursdays match as I am unfortunately unable to go due to a medical procedure that has been arranged at short notice.

My son and his partner are travelling up from Bristol and will have the spare ticket with them. DM me if you want the ticket (first come first served) he can meet up with you before the game.

Ticket has now been sold - thanks to those that dm'd me.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:44:40
Had a look on the ELF website and not found anything on it yet. I would imagine it's treated like a league game in that regard, with a red card or the usual totals of yellows leading to a suspension.
What about cumulative yellows leading to a 1 game ban for the final?

Iandolo must be close to a ban with the amount of yellows this season he has racked up?

If we don't have any players close to the ban amount then its not an issue.

Reed on 11, McKirdy and Iandolo both on 12 yellow from what I can see.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:45:44
What was Will Ferrell saying about it? :)
Oops!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:47:58
What about cumulative yellows leading to a 1 game ban for the final?

Iandolo must be close to a ban with the amount of yellows this season he has racked up?

If we don't have any players close to the ban amount then its not an issue.
Iandolo's had 11, same as McKirdy. The limit is 15 so nothing to worry about.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:48:46
To offer some balance, I found Staffordshire a great place to live


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:49:28
Iandolo's had 11, same as McKirdy. The limit is 15 so nothing to worry about.
Thats good, not an issue then as long as we don't let then rile us and wind up our players, just don't get silly bookings that may lead to a 2nd yellow.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:50:03
Fucking hell, some football fans (and I include some of ours) are pearl clutching whinging pathetic twats. Jesus if our 9 year old came out with some of that I would tell her to grow up!

Lot of stiffs on here too.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:51:19
They will target our players and wind them up Thursday for sure


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:55:01
Quote from: RWB Robin
Just a little geography lesson.....no way is PV a northern club....its just a non-entity from the West Midlands. Just saying.....

a bit grim
a funny accent
weird food

how much more Northern do you want it?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:55:24
Quote from: horlock07
Fucking hell, some football fans (and I include some of ours) are pearl clutching whinging pathetic twats. Jesus if our 9 year old came out with some of that I would tell her to grow up!

what on earth are you going on about?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:55:25
They will target our players and wind them up Thursday for sure
They will, we just have to make sure our players don't let it get to them. McKirdy especially so.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:56:28
Have we ever been in a div4/league two play off before this season?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 11:57:53
Have we ever been in a div4/league two play off before this season?
Nope.


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:02:57
have we ever successfully defended a 2-1 first leg lead without penalties ?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:09:10
Last time we were in the POs!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:09:25
have we ever successfully defended a 2-1 first leg lead without penalties ?

Sheffield United.


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:14:02
oh shit. I blotted that whole tie out.

we were going to Wembley after a classic match. Could barely mutter a word on the way back to the car


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:16:14
Shit. Don't think I could cope with 10 goals on Thursday.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:17:00
second Q. would you change anything for Thursday?

I wouldn't, but with JOBs height and the midfield to my eyes starting to get leggy there is scope.

nah, we've won 5 in a row, you have to go with that team don't you?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:17:56
v Blackburn in 1990 as well.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:18:46
Anybody popping to a pub to watch this? Might be good for a meet up.

 :(

https://youtu.be/iN9CjAfo5n0


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:18:53
I remember when these match day threads had something about them.

RIP Reg.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:20:14
Quote from: Shaw Rosso
I remember when these match day threads had something about them.

RIP Reg.

Shaw! How are you.

write up write up write up


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:20:18
Hello mate!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:23:23
Shit. Don't think I could cope with 10 goals on Thursday.
But how many of them would McKirdy score!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:25:55
v Blackburn in 1990 as well.
We did them 2-1 home and away, the away goal by Stigger lives long in the memory.

What an amazing day out that was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm0AfYOrHfw


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:27:24
I remember when these match day threads had something about them.

RIP Reg.
Wow where you been dude? Welcome back.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:27:31
a bit grim
a funny accent
weird food


You describing Burslem or Swindon?  ;)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:27:55
Son dug out his 2011 signed shirt last night, and I started having these weird flashbacks.

Then I remembered the TEF, and the wonderful inhabitants, and then I thought of that grade one cunt John Lennon from the Pox forum.

Now my then 5 year old lad is now a committed fan, season ticket in the Town End, 10 away games, and we are going up.

I hope you’re all well


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RWB Robin on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:52:08
You describing Burslem or Swindon?  ;)

 ;D  When you live in the real north, both!!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:55:43
So we’ll get a huge shock from the noise on Thursday will we? How exactly do they know what the atmosphere will be like on Thursday as they’ve barely had it a third full for the majority of the last decade. They are making out like Vale Park is La Bombonera FFS!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Monday, May 16, 2022, 12:58:00
So we’ll get a huge shock from the noise on Thursday will we? How exactly do they know what the atmosphere will be like on Thursday as they’ve barely had it a third full for the majority of the last decade. They are making out like Vale Park is La Bombonera FFS!

La Bombonera of the North(ern hemisphere).


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:03:40
You describing Burslem or Swindon?  ;)

Morecambe


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:12:46
So we’ll get a huge shock from the noise on Thursday will we? How exactly do they know what the atmosphere will be like on Thursday as they’ve barely had it a third full for the majority of the last decade. They are making out like Vale Park is La Bombonera FFS!

Watched their game v Newport in what was a massive game for them. Noisy at the start then scattered noise throughout the match. The same as yesterday funnily enough. Not sure who exactly will be shocked. More likely to be Swindon fans making noise in a roofed away end.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:19:15
Confirmed VAR for the final


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:20:52
I remember when these match day threads had something about them.

RIP Reg.

It's true - some old fart used to put real research into the opening MDT post. How are you holding up?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:21:32
Confirmed VAR for the final

Sky Sports have now confirmed that VAR will be used in All 3 upcoming play off finals.

If we get there of course.
;)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lardy Cake on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:26:15
Burslem has some wonderful architecture and Victorian Parks. Both of which are in close proximity to the football ground. Triple Screw brewed by the Titanic Brewery is/was one of my all time favourite Real Ales. Can one of the experts amongst you tell me what year the Towns game was called off about an hour before kick off due to a frozen pitch. There was no snow/frost the night before so was in my view called off for other reasons. I also remember so many Town fans staying in the Vine pub for hours afterwards drinking Archers Ale kindly put on for visiting fans.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:26:37
Don’t be such a negative nelly!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:28:31
We stopped off in Stoke when the Bolton league cup replay was postponed. Just sat down for a curry and the car alarm went off. Some fuckwad smashed the back window. Fucking cold drive back from there!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:36:29
Morecambe

Morecambe is on the up, if I had the money I would be buying property in Morecambe.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:46:34
Tyson Fury seems to like living there!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:47:33
It's true - some old fart used to put real research into the opening MDT post. How are you holding up?


I’m doing good, thank you.

I have something called Fibromyalgia, which is a chronic pain condition, also chronic fatigue syndrome, and a rancid lower bowel.

First 2/3 years was difficult, spent most of it in bed watching reruns of Only Fools and Horses, Gavin and Stacey, and Friends. I blame the opiates.

Used to get regular hand cramps, so using a phone or a laptop was difficult, also get brain fog (I’m 46).

Did the riches to rags thing, went from Shaw to temporary accommodation in Toothill for 5 years, moved away from West a few years ago, now quietly living on the northern edge of the borough.

Health is better, meds have improved, things are considerably brighter than a few years ago.

Sorry to bung it all on here, only just remembered how to reply to people :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:52:20
I'm not familiar with your name but you seem a decent guy and I feel the pain you have been going through which is hopefully now under control.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:57:00


I’m doing good, thank you.

I have something called Fibromyalgia, which is a chronic pain condition, also chronic fatigue syndrome, and a rancid lower bowel.

First 2/3 years was difficult, spent most of it in bed watching reruns of Only Fools and Horses, Gavin and Stacey, and Friends. I blame the opiates.

Used to get regular hand cramps, so using a phone or a laptop was difficult, also get brain fog (I’m 46).

Did the riches to rags thing, went from Shaw to temporary accommodation in Toothill for 5 years, moved away from West a few years ago, now quietly living on the northern edge of the borough.

Health is better, meds have improved, things are considerably brighter than a few years ago.

Sorry to bung it all on here, only just remembered how to reply to people :)

Well don't be a stranger. We never forget an old TEFer.  ;)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 13:59:07
I'm not familiar with your name but you seem a decent guy and I feel the pain you have been going through which is hopefully now under control.

Shaw Rosso is THE original match day thread starter.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:01:23
Shaw Rosso is THE original match day thread starter.

Wow respect to the man I never knew that😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:10:30
Shaw Rosso is THE original match day thread starter.

Didn’t I dethrone King of Tonga?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:12:55
Who was the poster who was increasingly ennobled as we kept winning games, was that you SR or someone else?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:13:38
Shaw Rosso is THE original match day thread starter.

A league two title with Di canio after I took great care to start MDTs after getting in at 3am from the SU, and it’s all been forgotten.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:15:30
Who was the poster who was increasingly ennobled as we kept winning games, was that you SR or someone else?

Could’ve been Sir Suggs, although I did take us up from League Two and received no more than a pint in the Merlin.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:16:37
A league two title with Di canio after I took great care to start MDTs after getting in at 3am from the SU, and it’s all been forgotten.


Ah yes, you was a fantastic warm up act.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:17:15
Being stripped of my knighthood was the ultimate humiliation.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:18:48
Being stripped of my knighthood was the ultimate humiliation.


We needed consistency. I steadied the ship through turbulent waters.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:22:47
King of Tonga (Mex). :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, May 16, 2022, 14:42:33
Burslem has some wonderful architecture and Victorian Parks. Both of which are in close proximity to the football ground. Triple Screw brewed by the Titanic Brewery is/was one of my all time favourite Real Ales. Can one of the experts amongst you tell me what year the Towns game was called off about an hour before kick off due to a frozen pitch. There was no snow/frost the night before so was in my view called off for other reasons. I also remember so many Town fans staying in the Vine pub for hours afterwards drinking Archers Ale kindly put on for visiting fans.

I think that there has been more than one late call off v Port Vale.
Remember getting the news once just as the train was leaving Stafford.  >:(
A couple of beers & breakfast in Stoke then about face.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, May 16, 2022, 15:12:57
It seems Port Vale are struggling to sell tickets

Posted 24 minutes ago
Just checked the online situation as my daughter wants a ticket and as it stands it looks as though we heading for about 8k max.

You cannot check the hamil but it would appear with the technical issues most season ticket holders have jumped in there.

Looks load more seats left than a normal game?


Posted 8 minutes ago
  47 minutes ago, Family Stand Terrier said:
8k Vale for this would be shocking. Truly embarrassing. Oh well. I'll be in the Hamil End making as much noise as possible
I think we will do well sell 7,000 home tickets by the looks of it. Pretty poor effort if this is the case for a huge huge game.





Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ides of March on Monday, May 16, 2022, 15:40:42
Hi all,
Wishful thinking, I know, but just checking on the off chance that anyone has a spare Port Vale ticket going? Was awaiting general sale, but seems we are far too good for that as a fanbase.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, May 16, 2022, 15:44:47
Hi all,
Wishful thinking, I know, but just checking on the off chance that anyone has a spare Port Vale ticket going? Was awaiting general sale, but seems we are far too good for that as a fanbase.


You just missed one that was posted on here earlier. Suggest keeping a regular eye on here and twitter.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, May 16, 2022, 15:45:53
Burslem has some wonderful architecture and Victorian Parks. Both of which are in close proximity to the football ground. Triple Screw brewed by the Titanic Brewery is/was one of my all time favourite Real Ales. Can one of the experts amongst you tell me what year the Towns game was called off about an hour before kick off due to a frozen pitch. There was no snow/frost the night before so was in my view called off for other reasons. I also remember so many Town fans staying in the Vine pub for hours afterwards drinking Archers Ale kindly put on for visiting fans.

i cant remember the year but lets say naughties. i ended up watching west brom as it was the nearest ground we could get to at such late notice. was a farce cancellation- sun was beaming down on the pitch lovely.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, May 16, 2022, 15:54:13
Burslem has some wonderful architecture and Victorian Parks. Both of which are in close proximity to the football ground. Triple Screw brewed by the Titanic Brewery is/was one of my all time favourite Real Ales. Can one of the experts amongst you tell me what year the Towns game was called off about an hour before kick off due to a frozen pitch. There was no snow/frost the night before so was in my view called off for other reasons. I also remember so many Town fans staying in the Vine pub for hours afterwards drinking Archers Ale kindly put on for visiting fans.

Remember it well. Pitch was rock solid.
A few pints and off down the M6 for a McDonalds. Not the driver that day.



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ides of March on Monday, May 16, 2022, 15:59:58
You just missed one that was posted on here earlier. Suggest keeping a regular eye on here and twitter.
Ffs, my bad. Cheers, will do!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lardy Cake on Monday, May 16, 2022, 16:09:48
I think that there has been more than one late call off v Port Vale.
Remember getting the news once just as the train was leaving Stafford.  >:(
A couple of beers & breakfast in Stoke then about face.
Didn’t realise we had two different games called off. The one I can remember was I think 2004.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lardy Cake on Monday, May 16, 2022, 16:14:13
i cant remember the year but lets say naughties. i ended up watching west brom as it was the nearest ground we could get to at such late notice. was a farce cancellation- sun was beaming down on the pitch lovely.
Yep that was the one, glorious weather that day.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, May 16, 2022, 17:09:25
Didn’t realise we had two different games called off. The one I can remember was I think 2004.

The one I'm thinking of was early 2016. Waterlogged.
Don't think that their pitch holds water very well at least not back then.
The rearranged game featured Balmy & Rodgers in midfield with Doughty in defence. We lost.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, May 16, 2022, 17:14:43
They will, we just have to make sure our players don't let it get to them. McKirdy especially so.

I can see a red card or two being dished out.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, May 16, 2022, 17:24:18


I’m doing good, thank you.

I have something called Fibromyalgia, which is a chronic pain condition, also chronic fatigue syndrome, and a rancid lower bowel.

First 2/3 years was difficult, spent most of it in bed watching reruns of Only Fools and Horses, Gavin and Stacey, and Friends. I blame the opiates.

Used to get regular hand cramps, so using a phone or a laptop was difficult, also get brain fog (I’m 46).

Did the riches to rags thing, went from Shaw to temporary accommodation in Toothill for 5 years, moved away from West a few years ago, now quietly living on the northern edge of the borough.

Health is better, meds have improved, things are considerably brighter than a few years ago.

Sorry to bung it all on here, only just remembered how to reply to people :)

Great to see you back.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, May 16, 2022, 17:25:36
Being stripped of my knighthood was the ultimate humiliation.

Now you have an inkling of how Prince Nonce Andrew must feel.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 17:28:06
Vale Twitter saying “more than 8000” home tickets have “already” been sold for Thursday. Their wording.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 17:29:17
Which in non dick waving terms is good for us if the atmosphere is going to play a part


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, May 16, 2022, 18:39:08
Just seen that stand. Its fucking massive. Could easily give us more.

The dick waving may be old hat for a lot of people but they've been an absolute farce and are rightfully getting laughed at.


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 18:53:19
Quote
Just seen that stand. Its fucking massive. Could easily give us more.
.
I think the bycars is about 3700, of which they've given us 2200.

they'd rather have empty seats and a sense of 'advantage' and 'fairness'.

To be honest the stupid way the playoff money is divvied it doesn't hurt them as much financially as you'd think


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:00:11
It seems Port Vale are struggling to sell tickets

Posted 24 minutes ago
Just checked the online situation as my daughter wants a ticket and as it stands it looks as though we heading for about 8k max.

You cannot check the hamil but it would appear with the technical issues most season ticket holders have jumped in there.

Looks load more seats left than a normal game?


Posted 8 minutes ago
  47 minutes ago, Family Stand Terrier said:
8k Vale for this would be shocking. Truly embarrassing. Oh well. I'll be in the Hamil End making as much noise as possible
I think we will do well sell 7,000 home tickets by the looks of it. Pretty poor effort if this is the case for a huge huge game.


I'm confused. The away end holds 4k, the other end where we are holds 3,700. The two side stands look like they'd hold about another 10k. How much of this ground is actually open?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:07:31
What's the pub(s) options for those travelling?

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:18:55
I think the bycars is about 3700, of which they've given us 2200.

they'd rather have empty seats and a sense of 'advantage' and 'fairness'.

To be honest the stupid way the playoff money is divvied it doesn't hurt them as much financially as you'd think

I *think* that the Bycars is attached to the stand along the side (there is a corner bit) so I guess the 2,200 will be kept as far away from their fans as possible. I also *think* they are only allowed 80% capacity in that stand as well so that also may explain why only that amount of tickets to us.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:20:22
holds about 15k 4d.

hamil 4400
Lorne 5000
bycars 3700
other ???

I assume some isn't used for safety reasons. like the upper shrivvy!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:23:55
What's the pub(s) options for those travelling?

Sent from my XQ-AD51

I don't know, but I've been told by a Vale fan that the Bulls Head is usually the away friendly pub.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:44:59
I don't know, but I've been told by a Vale fan that the Bulls Head is usually the away friendly pub.
Yep, Bull’s Head is the away pub usually. Decent pub from memory.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, May 16, 2022, 20:47:53
Bloody hell Shaw Rosso's back, things are all coming together. I will admit suggsy earnt that MBE with the sweat of his brow though, even if he fell short of the knighthood.

Glad to hear you're doing better SR, that is not a fun condition and sounds like you've been through the ringer a bit.

Also I must say LarfyCake is the best new name I've seen on here in a while. Best Lardy Cake purveyor?



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Monday, May 16, 2022, 21:00:10
Great to see Shaw Rosso back.

Which stand is the Bycars? As I'm looking out from the away end, is it to my left or right?


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2022, 21:06:57
Quote
Great to see Shaw Rosso back.

Which stand is the Bycars? As I'm looking out from the away end, is it to my left or right?
it's the other end behind goal from the normal away end.

but  Bycars is Thursdays away end. they've switched it so they can fail to sell even more seats


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lardy Cake on Monday, May 16, 2022, 21:17:17


Also I must say LarfyCake is the best new name I've seen on here in a while. Best Lardy Cake purveyor?


Best Lardy when I was a lad too many years to mention came from the small bakery up the track from the Steam Train Pub. Think they were called Hewers. The best I can find when I visit is from Marshals Bakery R. Wooten Bassett although I think they are baked in Pewsey. The shop/bakery in Bassett was closed for a while before the Newport game so I missed out, hope they have reopened.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: mexico red on Monday, May 16, 2022, 21:27:00
King of Tonga (Mex). :)

I did go on a ridiculous winning streak but fuck me I forgot my reign in the pacific


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 06:06:39
Is it extra time and pens, or straight to pens?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 06:37:01
Quote from: 4D
Is it extra time and pens, or straight to pens?

extra time and pens


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 06:59:25
1-1  1 red card 8 bookings. 12,305 2,200 ecstatic town fans. McKirdy again and Mandela Egbo.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 07:11:14
Spotted on Twitter this morning. Advice from Stoke Plod on parking/access to ground, pubs:

https://twitter.com/Police_PVFC/status/1526447402021961728?s=20&t=lWCbrmNS4mWf13xSkiFGhw

https://twitter.com/Police_PVFC/status/1526456399835934720?s=20&t=lWCbrmNS4mWf13xSkiFGhw


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 07:35:41
I did go on a ridiculous winning streak but fuck me I forgot my reign in the pacific

Am I right in remembering that there was some sort of Danny Baker connection to the King of Tonga? Did he use it as a social media pseudonym?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 07:42:59
Fail 1-2 Swindon (Barry, McKirdy) att 11,650 (2,200 of us)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: mexico red on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 08:50:19
Am I right in remembering that there was some sort of Danny Baker connection to the King of Tonga? Did he use it as a social media pseudonym?

100% correct


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:01:52
Legends Lounge showing the Vale game. Maximum numbers of 400 - free entry.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:07:40
I don't have a great feeling about the game TBH but we have done great to be where we are this season in all fairness.

We can beat anyone on our day but we can also lose to anyone on our day. If Payne, Barry, Williams and McKirdy are on form no team in the bottom 2 divisions can cope with us as an attacking force.

But, keep a clean sheet and we are there, same team as Sunday looking to make it 6 wins in a row.

11,645 with 2,289 Town fans.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:14:44
Legends Lounge showing the Vale game. Maximum numbers of 400 - free entry.

They could really do with ticketing it in some way, otherwise what do they do if more than 400 turn up? Something like Eventbrite or equivalent?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:18:47
2-2

Att: 11,997

Percentage of post-match posts containing the word 'tinpot' - 37.5%


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:23:21
2-2

Att: 11,997

Percentage of post-match posts containing the word 'tinpot' - 37.5%
Well yours is the first.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:24:16
2-2

Att: 11,997

Percentage of post-match posts containing the word 'tinpot' - 37.5%

Nah they will be living vicariously through the size of our away following  ;) :D

I honestly wouldn't want to predict what the outcome could be, will entirely depend on which Swindon turn up, the one that has the beating of any team in this division or the one that lost to Barrow at their place!

In an unexpected twist I have realised that if we reach the final I am actually on holiday darn south that weekend, don't worry I am unlikely to attend as I would not want to jinx things, albeit it could be interesting finding a pub in Witney showing it!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:24:55
Well yours is the first.

Just before he replies it's not yet Post-match mate :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:33:55
Just before he replies it's not yet Post-match mate :)
Post match is irrelevant mate :) 1st mention of tinpot goes to JBZ.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:37:26
don't worry I am unlikely to attend as I would not want to jinx things, albeit it could be interesting finding a pub in Witney showing it!
I think many will show the game, not sure any would be cheering us on though.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:40:43
Post match is irrelevant mate :) 1st mention of tinpot goes to JBZ.

Good post


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:46:21
Post match is irrelevant mate :) 1st mention of tinpot goes to JBZ.

If this is being used to describe Vale then china pot more appropriate surely.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:55:13
Good post
Thank you, I thought so too.

If this is being used to describe Vale then china pot more appropriate surely.
:D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 09:55:40
Thank you, I thought so too.

You are most welcome


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jericho on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:38:11
Where's everyone headed pre-match? The usual away pub (Bulls Head) isn't allowing away fans


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:43:33
Tinpot bus station?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:44:56
Where's everyone headed pre-match? The usual away pub (Bulls Head) isn't allowing away fans

Good morning officer  :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:49:00
Spotted on Twitter this morning. Advice from Stoke Plod on parking/access to ground, pubs:

https://twitter.com/Police_PVFC/status/1526447402021961728?s=20&t=lWCbrmNS4mWf13xSkiFGhw

https://twitter.com/Police_PVFC/status/1526456399835934720?s=20&t=lWCbrmNS4mWf13xSkiFGhw

Thanks for that, parking booked :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:53:39
looks like I got the second to last one, kinky the last.

https://portvaleparking.co.uk/

for cars, mini buses fine


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:56:54
Managed to get it about 15 minutes ago but thought it'd be nice to say thanks, when I went to log in on my phone to get the details saved on it I noticed it was nearly sold out.  Good timing, glad you got in Batch.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 10:59:56
Tinpot bus station?

 :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:06:37
On the supporters club broadcast last night, it was said that we failed to score in three away games this season, Barrow, Tranmere and Rochdale. Being northern based, I was at all three of those with Barrow and Tranmere being at the shitty end of shit.

You will be delighted to hear that I can't be at Port Vale so that is positive!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:16:28
don't forget to add your reg kinky


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:23:21
just booked parking. thanks for heads up. they are releasing them in batches (the irony) so keep checking if it says sold out


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:23:42
yup, more available now

https://portvaleparking.co.uk/


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:36:30
don't forget to add your reg kinky

Yep, all done cheers.  Just been scoping the car parking out on satellite view, could be sat trying to get out for a while but hopefully any PV traffic will be well on its way from the ground by then :D COYR


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:40:46
just booked parking. thanks for heads up. they are releasing them in batches (the irony) so keep checking if it says sold out

Ah, maybe they wait on seeing if loads of coaches or mini busses book and allocate spaces based on that in as you say, batches.

EDIT: Nope, it's a different car park...


Title: Re: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:50:51
yup, more available now

https://portvaleparking.co.uk/
Cheers for that. Booked in.

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Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 11:58:21
Just booked my parking also. Couldn't get into the Dimensions leisure centre but managed to get a spot in the second place they advertised. Only 5 minutes walk from Vale Park so just need something to do between about 6pm and kick off!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:01:41
yup, more available now

https://portvaleparking.co.uk/
Did you receive a confirmation email straight away?


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:02:53
pretty quickly yeah

check spam?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:06:32
Did you receive a confirmation email straight away?

Yep, and not to Spam either.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:15:01
Got it. Cheers chaps


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:28:16
Just booked into Haywood Academy. No indication what time the car park is open from, and no idea what we're supposed to do in the 2 hours before kick off with no pubs open... Suggestions?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:43:18
2 Hours?  I think you're supposed to have a proper nawty tear up with the terrifying port vale ultras aren't you?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:44:27
A horse called "Garner" has just won at Nottingham 5/1. It's a sign! (There's one at 3.10 called Phantasy Mac)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 14:50:24
it's the other end behind goal from the normal away end.

but  Bycars is Thursdays away end. they've switched it so they can fail to sell even more seats

Cheers Batch.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 15:33:37
1-2

11,666

2,189

Burslem’s Phil ‘The Power’ Taylor and Robbie ‘The Prick’ Williams, crying into their beer.

Rest in peace, Ian Fraser Kilmister, better known as Lemmy from Mötorhead, another famous son of Burslem.

In 2019 Burslem’s last bank closed, leaving the town without any free to use cash machines, making it the first large town in the UK without one. The bastards.

Que sera sera


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 15:54:18
https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1526595852130721793

Another 98 tickets have been found, presumably by getting everyone to budge up a bit. 50 online sale, 48 ticket office only tomorrow.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 15:56:44
I’m starting to think that all this petty stand swapping stuff has played into our hands a little for Thursday and backfired on them a little. It looks like the majority of their normal support have gone for tickets behind the other goal and as a result the 2 side stands are currently half empty.

So effectively there is going to be noise from our end, noise from there’s (albeit with greater numbers) and not a lot else on sides. Hardly the intimidating cauldron they have made it out to be. I’m guessing they just assumed it would quickly sell out so wouldn’t be an issue if the side stands were still packed.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 16:00:25
Yeah. They’re saying it’ll be about 2,000 less for a home sell out.

McGirty is doing his stuff on Twitter. Sucking up to Stoke fans who are lapping it up.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 16:11:18
Yeah. They’re saying it’ll be about 2,000 less for a home sell out.

McGirty is doing his stuff on Twitter. Sucking up to Stoke fans who are lapping it up.
Think that’s a fake McKirdy on Twitter


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 16:12:48
Just booked my parking also. Couldn't get into the Dimensions leisure centre but managed to get a spot in the second place they advertised. Only 5 minutes walk from Vale Park so just need something to do between about 6pm and kick off!

Managed to find a space for a fiver. Pleased with that and don't have to risk finding street parking.



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 16:22:03
Hardly the intimidating cauldron they have made it out to be

I can't wait for the hostile atmosphere that's been promised by the Vale fans. Having never been to Galatasaray, I'm expecting something similar!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 17:04:51
I’m starting to think that all this petty stand swapping stuff has played into our hands a little for Thursday and backfired on them a little. It looks like the majority of their normal support have gone for tickets behind the other goal and as a result the 2 side stands are currently half empty.

So effectively there is going to be noise from our end, noise from there’s (albeit with greater numbers) and not a lot else on sides. Hardly the intimidating cauldron they have made it out to be. I’m guessing they just assumed it would quickly sell out so wouldn’t be an issue if the side stands were still packed.

Port Vale saying over 11,000 sold inc 2200 Swindon


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 17:08:06
I haven't seen it say including our fans


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 17:12:32
I haven't seen it say including our fans

Screenshot from their forum


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 17:36:50
Just booked into Haywood Academy. No indication what time the car park is open from, and no idea what we're supposed to do in the 2 hours before kick off with no pubs open... Suggestions?

Booked the same.
Better have a roof on it ;)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 18:02:08
Screenshot from their forum

No incriminating tabs open - good work


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 18:15:11
Any juicy stories come from that Jimbo?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 18:38:42
Be quiet when Girdy scores in the 2nd minute.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 19:21:54
Gurdy

 https://youtu.be/VXdQatUV8kQ (https://youtu.be/VXdQatUV8kQ)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Munichred on Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 21:28:25
There have been more than a few comments on the Vale forum about a certain Swindon player, some hoping he gets injured and some more complimentary. This is a recent post:  :)



Hello admin,any chance you could make a separate thread for those who want to comment on a certain horrible opposition player ? Then we can just post on here about the Vale and Thursday night,cheers.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 05:58:15
I wouldn't usually use this phrase, but 'rent free' appears to be true in this case. Love it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 06:19:26
After what happened at the City Ground after the match ended last night, I’d get off the pitch pdq.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 06:31:25
After what happened at the City Ground after the match ended last night, I’d get off the pitch pdq.

I very much doubt anyone will be allowed on the pitch tonight.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 07:27:06
weather forecast looking good. Rather that than a blowing a hooley which without being disrespectful would favour them


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 07:27:58
Be good if the ball can be kept below 30ft tomorrow.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 08:34:19
After what happened at the City Ground after the match ended last night, I’d get off the pitch pdq.
Not much to it but a Luton player thanking away support at Huddersfield also got jostled after home pitch invasion and had a couple more idiot Terrier fans giving him the big come on.

Completely unacceptable.

Have to say again, I thought police and stewards handled the end of the match at Walsall very well. But then we are classier pitch invaders.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 08:38:53
pitch invasion idiots are spoiling it for the pitch invasion connoisseurs.

don't really have a problem with it. well didn't. last night will see a heavier hand being dealt


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 08:50:52
Not much to it but a Luton player thanking away support at Huddersfield also got jostled after home pitch invasion and had a couple more idiot Terrier fans giving him the big come on.

Completely unacceptable.

Have to say again, I thought police and stewards handled the end of the match at Walsall very well. But then we are classier pitch invaders.
Not much to it? Billy Sharp was assaulted, knocked to the ground and needed stitches.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 08:56:52
Not much to it? Billy Sharp was assaulted, knocked to the ground and needed stitches.

Different game he is talking about Aud, wakey wakey!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 08:58:16
Well, my original post was about last night’s game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:26:04
pitch invasion idiots are spoiling it for the pitch invasion connoisseurs.

don't really have a problem with it. well didn't. last night will see a heavier hand being dealt
I would suggest that McKirdy is substituted off with a minute to go so he can get to safety as I don't trust the Vale louts not to attack him during a pitch invasion.

TBF I dont trust the Vale bully boy players not to have damaged him before then on the pitch, dirty nasty fuckers.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:44:09
Why are we expecting PV fans to be on the pitch, do fans normally invade to celebrate a defeat?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: lovestfc on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:48:33
Looking for lucky omens . The last match the referee Stockbridge was involved with concerning swindon was last January away at ipswich result Ipswich 2 swindon 3 live on TV . That will do


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:53:48
Remember last game of the season at Stoke in the Ossie season. We Drew 1-1 to qualify for the POs. Stoke fans on the pitch that day.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:56:18
Anyone know if the away end will be accessible via Hamil Road or will we have to detour along the lane at the back? Ta.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:58:09
There have been more than a few comments on the Vale forum about a certain Swindon player, some hoping he gets injured and some more complimentary. This is a recent post:  :)

Hello admin,any chance you could make a separate thread for those who want to comment on a certain horrible opposition player ? Then we can just post on here about the Vale and Thursday night,cheers.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7Lm2f0x0/harry-obsession.jpg)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 09:58:43
Haywood Academy parking is from 5pm onwards- confirmed with the parking company.

Understand from PVPolice twitter Dimensions is from 4pm.... incredible planning to tell Town fans to park here 3-4 hours ahead of kick off and offer nowhere to go pre-match.  :hmmm:

Also seen a lot of comments from PV fans about the time it takes to get into the Bycars Stand.... only 1 turnstile apparently... allow yourself plenty of time not to miss ko.

Below pub confirmed on the phone they will be allowing away fans, bit closer than Newcastle-under-Lyme.

https://www.sizzlingpubs.co.uk/findapub/eastandwestmidlands/themoorlandinnburslem#/

UTFR


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: AMayesIng on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 10:23:37
Not much to it? Billy Sharp was assaulted, knocked to the ground and needed stitches.
Disgraceful. Even in the bad old days of football aggro I don't remember players getting whacked (maybe coz we were all behind fences, dunno).
I've said it before; but there's definitely something in the air post COVID; seems like trouble is on the rise again. Nowhere near as bad as it was, but dont want to go back there.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 10:24:05
Anyone know if the away end will be accessible via Hamil Road or will we have to detour along the lane at the back? Ta.
This is info for the Vale fans

https://www.port-vale.co.uk/news/2022/may/important-information-for-port-vale-supporters-ahead-of-play-offs-second-leg-fixture-against-swindon-town-may-19/


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 10:27:16
And some pre game comments, they really have taken to us as fans and a club.

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I listened to the swindon equivalent of ale & the vale today as was interested in how swindon fans see it.

Was pretty condisending stuff tbh, saying that they were going to send us a certificate from their local agricultural colleague due to our style of play. In fairness they did then go on to say we were hard but not dirty, and that swindon are overly snide with gamesmanship.

Thought it was interesting how they did think our midfield nullified theirs. They also went on a big old bit about flitcroft and his swindon team being solid/pragmatic with little flair which they think is basically the vale blueprint.

Ultimately I got the feeling that they think they are at wembley. Kind of an arrogance / dismissive undertone to it all.

The fact of the matter is we didnt play great in the first leg. It leads me to think that maybe they might underestimate us.

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Just watching 1000s of Forest fans on the pitch. Just hope Swindon fans stay off the pitch should they go through on Thursday.

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Turn the sprinklers on.
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They come across as a really cocky club and the comments from their side do suggest they think job done. Maybe it is… but we’ve got to make sure we use those comments as huge motivation to try and turn it around. We finished above them so it’s hardly like we are not capable of getting a result is it.

Strange strange club… their comments on twitter and stuff. Really bizarre set of fans.

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It's called delusions of grandeur.

The entitled.

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We need to be faster to the ball, quicker to close them down, and make sure we cut their pace as they are much faster and slick, the crowd needs to intimidate the girly ponytailed egotist each time he receives the ball, and ensure he's close marked and never given chance to move more than two feet, otherwise it don't bear thinking about cus they ain't no pushover, there's to much at stake

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Their manager, fans and players definitely have a whiff of arrogance about them. I'm convinced that they think they've done enough. Get them panicking and all this 'Man City of league 2' stuff will go out of the window. Even their better players are still league 2 players, so apply pressure and we have a chance.

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However I think on the day we are the most dangerous side to be facing we have enough quality absolutely thrash them unfortunately lately bar Exeter we have been very slack at the back and before we know it have found ourselves with a mountain to climb due to poor play .

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‘Show Pony’s’ footballing ability was not the reason he was let go from Vale and let’s make that perfectly clear, he didn’t leave we let him go .
He has arrogance issues, he doesn’t have the human criteria required to be employed at the Vale . Basically he doesn’t fit in, he’s a ‘non conformist’, pretty much like the ‘naughty kid in class’ , difficult to handle unless you’re prepared to put up with his antics which obviously Swindon are however quite a few others haven’t been .

Will be interesting to see how or not his career goes after this season .

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Swindon are confident, and have every reason to be. They have a superb away record and a style of play that suits this sort of game; they have a lot of pace on the counter, and when needed can kill games through possession and going down easily. It's very effective. I do find some of the Vale fans obsession with their playacting a tad hypocritical considering we've been awful for it all season. Remember Lucas' weekly hamstring tears? It's football lads. Calm down.

Everyone seems obsessed with McKirdy, and he must appear in over 50% of this thread's posts. He's completely wound up most Vale fans, and he'll be delighted. Every touch will be booed and the fans, instead of chanting about Vale, will probably devote most chants to that dreadful "Vale boys, on a bender..." chant. Give him ammunition and he'll punish us. Half the lads on here are doing deep psychological analyses, wishing him genuine injury, deep-diving on the reasons he was released, or banging on about him spitting. If you're that emotionally incontinent that you can't handle a young lad doing a daft machine-gun celebration, having silly hair, and being quite good at football, then seek help. He's got you on strings at present. He played 8 games ffs, move on!

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So already their manager is putting pressure on the officials and trying to influence the game.

I can't remember Andy Crosby ever talking about the refs. Hopefully football will do the talking.

All last season,we had 1 more booking than Swindle.....

And clamp down on the diving and play acting.

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They also over-acted/dived a fair bit. I definitely don't think the ref was overly-poor for either side. He certainly had very little to do with the result.

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I think Mckirdy was like a five year old and trying to wind up Connor Hall and tge ref should have had a strong word with him: luckily Hall is more of a strong personality than the squirt is but we have to be very careful that it doesn’t start again on Thursday?

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I cringe when I see those posts about McKirdy. I was rooting for him when he played for Vale, I remember watching him against Mansfield, last game of the season last year and I got the impression he knew he was on his way out, Clarke has no patience for liabilities and he would never have flourished under him.

The whinging about his celebrations and wanting to injure him are pathetic. We need to focus on our own players rather than theirs. If they sense it is winding you up they will do it even more. We are still in this tie and anything can happen.

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If he's arrogant then he's found a club where he belongs...same as the supporters


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 10:42:54
They've taken this whole ticket thing really badly haven't they?

1st leg kick up a fuss about tickets so get moved to SB to accommodate more fans, only sell 1,600 and end up getting wet, which they also complain about.

2nd pointlessly move fans around the ground because they again think they need the tickets.

Calling us arrogant and having delusions of grandeur, but we actually did want and need the extra tickets. They called on a dick waving contest and pulled out a little pecker.

One of them was sarcastically calling it our 'cup final' the other day. Talking about condescending down to being delusional. Its their first play off for 29 years.

Really hope we stuff them tomorrow and see the back of them. Shit pointless club.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 10:48:40
Oh I do hope that their fans spend the game booing and trying to wind up Harry Mc. He'll bloody love it!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 10:53:56
Oh I do hope that their fans spend the game booing and trying to wind up Harry Mc. He'll bloody love it!
Like in the away game when he ran rings around them and scored 1 and won us a penalty with the karate kick on McKirdy getting the keeper sent off.

He loved it that day.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:06:54
Im finding the port vale fans unbareable. That Ale and Vale podcast previewing the match is hillarious. Such a chip on their shoulder and Mckirdy living rent free in their heads


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:10:51
Im finding the port vale fans unbareable. That Ale and Vale podcast previewing the match is hillarious. Such a chip on their shoulder and Mckirdy living rent free in their heads
The reference to the Loathed Strangers podcast being condescending is odd... there was quite a balanced chat about Vale being a different type of team to us but equally effective in L2.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:12:39
Haywood Academy parking is from 5pm onwards- confirmed with the parking company.

Understand from PVPolice twitter Dimensions is from 4pm.... incredible planning to tell Town fans to park here 3-4 hours ahead of kick off and offer nowhere to go pre-match.  :hmmm:

Also seen a lot of comments from PV fans about the time it takes to get into the Bycars Stand.... only 1 turnstile apparently... allow yourself plenty of time not to miss ko.

Below pub confirmed on the phone they will be allowing away fans, bit closer than Newcastle-under-Lyme.

https://www.sizzlingpubs.co.uk/findapub/eastandwestmidlands/themoorlandinnburslem#/

UTFR

Nice find, thanks! The only potential issue is the location of that pub is kind of the opposite end to where we'll be housed so we'll be walking against Vale fans going towards the ground but I assume as long as people are sensible there should be no issues.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:13:10
Listening to it makes you realise how lucky we are to have Rich and the team doing the Loathed strangers.
I really hope we smash them tomorrow so we can forget them and move on.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:23:05
Nice find, thanks! The only potential issue is the location of that pub is kind of the opposite end to where we'll be housed so we'll be walking against Vale fans going towards the ground but I assume as long as people are sensible there should be no issues.

to quote the man of the moment HM.... 'you sound like a pussy, geezer'  :D



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:34:38
The reference to the Loathed Strangers podcast being condescending is odd... there was quite a balanced chat about Vale being a different type of team to us but equally effective in L2.

They seem to be offended by absolutely everything. That vlog that was posted on here calling us the dirty team as well. Hilarious lack of self awareness.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:37:53
What I don’t get is where their idea of club size comes from, all the delusions of grandeur are on their side. They constantly go on about Walsall and Crewe as rivals constantly calling them small clubs and what not but they all get practically the same average crowds so surely that makes them small as well? Vale haven’t had decent crowds since the 60’s so I just don’t get where their idea that they have a massive fanbase comes from.  


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:38:42
They seem to be offended by absolutely everything. That vlog that was posted on here calling us the dirty team as well. Hilarious lack of self awareness.

Completly agree. The obssession with Mckirdy is bordering on creepy 😄 I dont really get this whole arrogance thing. Surely its ok to feel some confidence. We all know the tie is far from over


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:48:27
Anyone ever do that thing where you see an absolutely clueless driver on the road and try to get a peek at them to see if they look at stupid as they drive?

Having the build up to the game Sunday and then seeing the video of their finest trying to goad our fans on Stratton Bank after their goal was a footballing version of that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:48:38
Strange bunch.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:56:47
This will be in unbearable if they turn the tie around and win.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:58:46
Didn't Reg once used to share a penchant for Burslem ways?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:59:22
to quote the man of the moment HM.... 'you sound like a pussy, geezer'  :D



I couldn't fight sleep fella!! :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:59:59
This will be in unbearable if they turn the tie around and win.
Not on here :) I wont accept any new registrations in the next 4 or 5 days win or lose :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 12:00:37
The reference to the Loathed Strangers podcast being condescending is odd... there was quite a balanced chat about Vale being a different type of team to us but equally effective in L2.

I haven't listened to that episode yet but i'm with you in that the LS podcast is generally very balanced and will give opponents credit where it's due so i'm also described to hear words like condescending and arrogant to describe it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 13:32:58
Anyone ever do that thing where you see an absolutely clueless driver on the road and try to get a peek at them to see if they look at stupid as they drive?

Having the build up to the game Sunday and then seeing the video of their finest trying to goad our fans on Stratton Bank after their goal was a footballing version of that.

What was the video?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 13:39:10
Not on here :) I wont accept any new registrations in the next 4 or 5 days win or lose :)

Two weeks hiatus should suffice. By the the play offs will be over.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 13:39:34
Two weeks hiatus should suffice. By the the play offs will be over.
I was thinking similarly.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 13:44:34
Meanwhile which ever team gets through to the final their club and supporters only have a week to sort out ticket & travel arrangements on a massive scale😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 13:50:58
Meanwhile which ever team gets through to the final their club and supporters only have a week to sort out ticket & travel arrangements on a massive scale😀

I'm sure 8k Vale fans to Wembley won't be too big a problem.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 13:55:38
I'm sure 8k Vale fans to Wembley won't be too big a problem.

You're not usually pessimistic😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:26:30
What was the video?

https://twitter.com/Eth2nWFC/status/1525951427100782595?s=20&t=VRMnOL_xqjF4GedAbpQ0mg


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:26:41
One thing not mentioned is with the risk of extra time tomorrow we need to be clever with our substitutions. We desperately need Egbo to actually last more than 60 minutes and same with Williams. I remember at their place under Wellens we ran out of players as we ended up with at least 3 injuries and were down to 9 or 10 players at the end as a result. Need to make sure we have subs available for as long as possible assuming it’s tight.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:32:22
One thing not mentioned is with the risk of extra time tomorrow we need to be clever with our substitutions. We desperately need Egbo to actually last more than 60 minutes and same with Williams. I remember at their place under Wellens we ran out of players as we ended up with at least 3 injuries and were down to 9 or 10 players at the end as a result. Need to make sure we have subs available for as long as possible assuming it’s tight.

That's actually a really good point. We've been doing well managing Williams and Egbo and they seem to be able to play 70-75 minutes at the moment. Do teams still get an extra sub in extra time? You would think both Williams and Egbo wouldn't be able to play more than 90 minutes so hopefully there are no other injuries during the game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:32:43
https://twitter.com/Eth2nWFC/status/1525951427100782595?s=20&t=VRMnOL_xqjF4GedAbpQ0mg

Cheers Chalkie. I guess that's what inbreds look like😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:39:14
https://twitter.com/Eth2nWFC/status/1525951427100782595?s=20&t=VRMnOL_xqjF4GedAbpQ0mg
Crumbs,  They look real hard !.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:41:08
One thing not mentioned is with the risk of extra time tomorrow we need to be clever with our substitutions. We desperately need Egbo to actually last more than 60 minutes and same with Williams. I remember at their place under Wellens we ran out of players as we ended up with at least 3 injuries and were down to 9 or 10 players at the end as a result. Need to make sure we have subs available for as long as possible assuming it’s tight.

Or we just need to be 2 up on the night, 3 goals to the good and cruising by 60 minutes.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:42:05
Any spare tickets going for tomoz?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:48:27
https://twitter.com/Eth2nWFC/status/1525951427100782595?s=20&t=VRMnOL_xqjF4GedAbpQ0mg

Haha, one looks like he was in Bo Selecta  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
The one with the big man bag too  ;D

I see they had to wade through that big pile of empty seats to get in the corner.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 14:56:01
It's not normal behaviour


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 15:01:45
Haha, one looks like he was in Bo Selecta  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
The one with the big man bag too  ;D

I see they had to wade through that big pile of empty seats to get in the corner.

Blimey if you were casting for a comedy about useless football hoolie boys this lot would be a shoo-in. The two fatties are just golden...

and he fella in shorts clearly missed the weather forecast


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 15:31:38
That's actually a really good point. We've been doing well managing Williams and Egbo and they seem to be able to play 70-75 minutes at the moment. Do teams still get an extra sub in extra time? You would think both Williams and Egbo wouldn't be able to play more than 90 minutes so hopefully there are no other injuries during the game.

At least if we do get though tomorrow night then the final is 9 days away rather than a 7, 4 or 3 day turn around as is during the season.

Might mean with the extra recover time we can squeeze a few more minutes out of the likes of Williams and Egbo.

Probably be suicide to take them off around the hour mark only to concede and find ourselves needing a goal / going into extra time / chasing the game


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 15:33:13
That's actually a really good point. We've been doing well managing Williams and Egbo and they seem to be able to play 70-75 minutes at the moment. Do teams still get an extra sub in extra time? You would think both Williams and Egbo wouldn't be able to play more than 90 minutes so hopefully there are no other injuries during the game.
Yes, one extra sub if it goes to extra time.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 15:36:11
All the absolute shite I've read online did make a lot of sense once I'd seen the video.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 15:53:20
Given the assault on Billy Clarke last night, I rather hope we're 2 nil up and able to get Harry Mck off at 70 minutes so none of those terrifying mob think its a great idea to try to do the same.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 15:53:55
Given the assault on Billy Clarke last night, I rather hope we're 2 nil up and able to get Harry Mck off at 70 minutes so none of those terrifying mob think its a great idea to try to do the same.

I wouldn't back any of them to connect.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 16:07:22
I wouldn't back any of them to connect.

Seeing the levels of morbid obesity in the visiting fans that came to the CG, and assuming these are the more mobile of their fans, I really doubt any of them would get near Harry Mc.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 17:06:44
I was castigated by some TEF posters for my criticism of the pitch invasion at Walsall.
I remain of the view that fans should not come on to the pitch, and events At some play off games this week have done nothing to change my view (they probably suggest I’m right). The players of both sides deserve the opportunity to show respect for the opposition, to acknowledge the support of their fans, and in the case of the winners to celebrate victory on the pitch and without the fear of assault from idiots invading the pitch.
Fans’ should stay off the pitch and behind the barriers to enable that to happen, and in the case of the winners to enjoy their players celebrating in front of them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 17:12:32
fuck. that, we win the league next season I'm on the pitch.

then, when asked, clear it.

it's unfortunate a thug has turned what's pretty harness into something that'll be under the microscope.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 17:13:37
Probably coked up


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: HeatonRed on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 17:18:00
Was anyone successful in getting 1 of the 50 online tickets this morning? Was refreshing the ticket page every 30secs, then the link appeared but all tickets gone. Looks like Sky for me or going in with Vale fans!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 17:48:14
I was castigated by some TEF posters for my criticism of the pitch invasion at Walsall.
I remain of the view that fans should not come on to the pitch, and events At some play off games this week have done nothing to change my view (they probably suggest I’m right). The players of both sides deserve the opportunity to show respect for the opposition, to acknowledge the support of their fans, and in the case of the winners to celebrate victory on the pitch and without the fear of assault from idiots invading the pitch.
Fans’ should stay off the pitch and behind the barriers to enable that to happen, and in the case of the winners to enjoy their players celebrating in front of them.


It’s all relative.

Like if you being promoted last game of the season and aren’t playing someone who by beating are missing out it’s fine. Or getting the play offs away at playing for nothing Walsall

Play Offs are different because one side will be the direct loser. It will be much more emotionally charged. It’s best left alone in that case imo


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 17:50:54
I totally agree. Imagine an opposing team celebrating at the New Den it would be carnage.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 18:42:37
Was anyone successful in getting 1 of the 50 online tickets this morning? Was refreshing the ticket page every 30secs, then the link appeared but all tickets gone. Looks like Sky for me or going in with Vale fans!!

I was online before 10 and after 10 and was showing nothing available. However I did read on Twitter there were some that managed to get tickets around 10:20? I’m still on the look out.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 18:57:12
This fucking song has been stuck in my head all day so you can all enjoy it too

https://youtu.be/DOnqBFYSQK0 (https://youtu.be/DOnqBFYSQK0)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: HeatonRed on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 19:08:15
Play Offs are different because one side will be the direct loser. It will be much more emotionally charged. It’s best left alone in that case imo

Which is why I probably wont go in with Vale fans. Being with home fans in the Harrogate, Sutton games was slightly painful not to celebrate other than fist pumps. Think I might get a slap at Vale. The only time I was relaxed in the wrong end was getting stuffed at Newcastle in the Prem.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 19:12:47
It's too risky unless you've got a local accent


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 19:23:40
Unless you have an account on the PV site, or know someone that does, you won't get a ticket anyway. They closed for registrations a while ago.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 21:02:09
It’s all relative.

Like if you being promoted last game of the season and aren’t playing someone who by beating are missing out it’s fine. Or getting the play offs away at playing for nothing Walsall

Play Offs are different because one side will be the direct loser. It will be much more emotionally charged. It’s best left alone in that case imo

Whilst I agree with you, some of us remember a rather good natured pitch invasion at Prenton Park.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 21:16:17
Whilst I agree with you, some of us remember a rather good natured pitch invasion at Prenton Park.

I think it we ever get back to playing football that sweet again we may find opposition fans that can appreciate it. That team won us a few friends.

Mind you it probably helped that Tranmere had won on the night and it had been a good game from both sides.



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Qunk on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 21:25:27
I was castigated by some TEF posters for my criticism of the pitch invasion at Walsall.
I remain of the view that fans should not come on to the pitch, and events At some play off games this week have done nothing to change my view (they probably suggest I’m right). The players of both sides deserve the opportunity to show respect for the opposition, to acknowledge the support of their fans, and in the case of the winners to celebrate victory on the pitch and without the fear of assault from idiots invading the pitch.
Fans’ should stay off the pitch and behind the barriers to enable that to happen, and in the case of the winners to enjoy their players celebrating in front of them.


I agree with you completely


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: paddieu on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 23:26:08
I was at Walsall and was ok with the initial invasion. But when they cleared the pitch so the players cud walk round and applaud etc, when they got to about 2/3 of the way along the long stand, people just invaded and mobbed them, so they cudnt finish off applauding the remaining 1/3 plus the behind goal stand. That was f---d up really, and I could see some of the players were not happy with that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: paddieu on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 23:27:33
Mind you I did see Reed dive into the crowd first time round to see people to the right of the goal :-)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: paddieu on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 23:31:08
Just a couple of thoughts re the game.
I'd be concerned about Vale players/atmosphere combining to get McKirdy sent off,
and even if we then won, would be inelgible for the final.

I hope he can keep his head, and that we get a ref who is tolerant, because the amount of yakking he directs at them defiinitely walks the line every time I see him


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: paddieu on Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 23:41:56
and a brief reflection on the first leg.

i was disappointd with the extent to which we just lumped the ball forward, especially the first part of the second half, and it was noticable that once we got it down and played, the second goal and the chances emerged.

Given the contrast with all the earlier season complaints about fannying around at the back etc, it was strange to see this change of tactics. Would be interesting to speculate why. Did Vale force that on us, or was it planned ? It felt like the latter.

it's too much to expect a youngster like davidson to achieve much in those circumstances.

Barry also seems not to be up to much form what I've seen recently - again of course he's just a youngster.

It feels like this team is 2 forwards short of what is needed - which is all the more credit to Reed and Payne for 'carrying' them - and our defenders for playing so well -and of course to Harry McK as well.

 I'd be curious to look back and compare our last play off team to get an idea of what we cud be aiming for, though that was League 1 admittedly. Maybe shud be comparing with Mussolini's team, or with that of 2 years ago ?

So whatever happens, well done to all involved for getting us this far !


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 05:58:42
Mind you I did see Reed dive into the crowd first time round to see people to the right of the goal :-)

That was to see his Mum and Dad.
Most people behave, unfortunately only takes a few to spoil it.
Whilst most will invade a pitch to celebrate with their players, the dick heads will run to the opposing ends to wind up the opposition fans, this is where it can turn nasty.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:00:04
Tbf, which is exactly what we did after the Sheffield United game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:06:13
So here we are. Nerves have now kicked in. Please do it lads


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:07:19
Hope the conditions don't level things up.

Hope Vale don't kick us off the park and take out any of our key players.

Hope we can score early and even more importantly stop them from scoring and building up a head of steam.

Hope we win and progress in the play offs.

Hope we don't have too edgy and nervy time.

Really, really, really hope that we don't lose. I'm always pessimistic, as this is Swindon, but I so want us to win. It will be a horrible weekend (and beyond) if we lose.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:11:31
Have faith, guys.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:23:21
well here we are.

the conditions look to be good.

no idea otherwise.

safe travels


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:50:06
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10832151/Pitch-invader-30-charged-assault-Sheffield-Uniteds-Billy-Sharp-headbutted.html


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 06:50:11
Woken up very nervous, just get the job done today please town.

Few to step up their game and we should get it done. Keep the faith. COYR


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:13:06
If we go one nil up, I would be tempted to take McKirdy off to rest. Not long back from injury, and can imagine him being a 'target' tonight.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:15:59
Problem is that Forest/Sheff U showed why 3-1 (agg) may not be enough

He's also kind of key to how we play.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:17:41
Vale fans got their panties in a twist again about our ‘arrogance’. Quoting Conroy saying we’re better footballers than them, don’t  need to use elbows etc.

Personally, I think confidence is a good thing. Doesn’t always turn out well, but you can’t go into a game thinking you’re going to get beat.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lardy Cake on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:20:51
Spent many years living in Staffordshire and must say Burslem can offer some of the best Oatcakes and Ale in this part of the world. Unfortunately most places selling Oatcakes close at 1pm and the Titanic Brewery shop at 5pm !!! However, I have a good feeling about tonight and 1 - 1 (Barry) will see us go through. As they say in Stoke "Good luck me ducks" to all those travelling up.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:21:06
If we go one nil up, I would be tempted to take McKirdy off to rest. Not long back from injury, and can imagine him being a 'target' tonight.

We shouldn’t be making subs like that unless we are out of sight.
Imagine taking McKirdy off then being in a position where we need a goal. We saw how impotent we were in front of goal when he was out injured.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:33:45
If we go one nil up, I would be tempted to take McKirdy off to rest. Not long back from injury, and can imagine him being a 'target' tonight.

Wishful thinking, I’d maybe take him off f, if we score two without reply but no sooner than 70 minutes. Of course the flip side is if we go a goal down, it’s game on and we have no choice but to keep him on irrespective of the treatment he gets from their players and fans. I just hope Garner has all their heads in the right frame of mind to ride out the storm ahead. They will I’m sure try to bully us physically.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:40:10
I was at Walsall and was ok with the initial invasion. But when they cleared the pitch so the players cud walk round and applaud etc, when they got to about 2/3 of the way along the long stand, people just invaded and mobbed them, so they cudnt finish off applauding the remaining 1/3 plus the behind goal stand. That was f---d up really, and I could see some of the players were not happy with that.

Agree, first was fine. After everything we’ve had last season and pre season- were aloud some kinda joy. Second was just stupidness, Mildy telling them to fuck off and rightly so.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:41:46
I was castigated by some TEF posters for my criticism of the pitch invasion at Walsall.
I remain of the view that fans should not come on to the pitch, and events At some play off games this week have done nothing to change my view (they probably suggest I’m right). The players of both sides deserve the opportunity to show respect for the opposition, to acknowledge the support of their fans, and in the case of the winners to celebrate victory on the pitch and without the fear of assault from idiots invading the pitch.
Fans’ should stay off the pitch and behind the barriers to enable that to happen, and in the case of the winners to enjoy their players celebrating in front of them.



Couldn’t disagree more. If you’ve got to final or promotion, you run on that pitch and you celebrate it with those players and the thousands of other fans on pitch. Every club in world that can do it, will do it. One prick head butting Billy sharp doesn’t mean nobody can run on a pitch.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:48:29
Can you imagine if Vale get to Wembley. Their thread on ticket sales will be massive  :)
I think most Swindon fans aren't arrogant, I don't know which way the tie will go tonight, like most of us. I do think Vale could twin with Rovers in respect of supporters.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:51:37
If you’ve got to final or promotion, you run on that pitch

These are different things though right? A playoff semi-final win is a job half done, it means nothing if you lose at Wembley (as we know!).

As for complaints about the PV fanbase, just imagine what you'd think of the Swindon one from the outside if you looked in the wrong place (the FB group, certain corners of Twitter). Most football fans are pretty sound, every club has a sizeable minority of delusional cretins. Port Vale aren't a bad team and I wish them all the luck in the world after tonight.

Not too nervous yet, but suspect I'll be an absolute wreck by 8pm. A repeat of the Walsall game where we were comfortable from 3 minutes in would be great, but I can't see it!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 07:52:49
I’m confident we’ll win. Doesn’t mean that we actually will. I’d imagine a lot of Garner’s psych with the players is telling them they’re better than the opposition.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:00:27
Port Vale RFC  :D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:12:08
Good luck to all who managed to get one of the few tickets today, safe travels, I wish I was going too.

As for the game, we know we are better away than at home, we played our poorest in the home game than we have in the last 5 games yet still won.

McKirdys on fire....their defence is terrified.....McKirdys on fire....

Not overly nervous yet but I am sure I will be come KO, we are doing amazing this season just to be in the Play Offs after having virtually no players at the start of the season and being favourites for relegation.

No matter what the outcome its been a great season.

Come on you mighty fucking reds!!!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:19:03
Of our last 19 games against Vale we have won 13. Still think it counts for nothing in a game like this.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:19:24
Good luck to all who managed to get one of the few tickets today, safe travels, I wish I was going too.

As for the game, we know we are better away than at home, we played our poorest in the home game than we have in the last 5 games yet still won.

McKirdys on fire....their defence is terrified.....McKirdys on fire....

Not overly nervous yet but I am sure I will be come KO, we are doing amazing this season just to be in the Play Offs after having virtually no players at the start of the season and being favourites for relegation.

No matter what the outcome its been a great season.

Come on you mighty fucking reds!!!!

Wot he said!

And can we please stop obsessing on this thread about them being obsessive about us!

Up the Robins!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:40:49
I’m convinced we’ll concede early and go onto lose the game.

Too much crap about attendances and style of football - two things in football that count for exactly fuck all once the whistle blows and the game starts.

Certain sections of our support have spent the last couple of weeks digging a massive grave and I can’t help but think karma will mean we will all have to lie in that grave later on tonight….


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:42:16
I’m convinced we’ll concede early and go onto lose the game.

Too much crap about attendances and style of football - two things in football that count for exactly fuck all once the whistle blows and the game starts.

Certain sections of our support have spent the last couple of weeks digging a massive grave and I can’t help but think karma will mean we will all have to lie in that grave later on tonight….

Unfortunately this is exactly my thoughts too.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:44:37
Unfortunately this is exactly my thoughts too.

Not only that but holding onto a lead has never been our strong point.
I’d have been infinitely more confident if the first leg had finished 2-0.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 08:59:21
Depends how we approach it. Try to sit back and we'll lose. Get an early goal, like we did at Walsall, who knows. Vale have lost 4 in the last 5 games. We have won 5. Let's do em. Our team won't be intimidated by a 12k crowd  ;D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:00:17
I’m feeling really nervous. I want to believe but I’m also convinced we are going to concede  within the first 15 minutes and Vale will be really pushing us back in the first half. However, we love a counterattack. Fuck I hate this, just beat them please.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:05:18
I’m convinced we’ll concede early and go onto lose the game.

Too much crap about attendances and style of football - two things in football that count for exactly fuck all once the whistle blows and the game starts.

Certain sections of our support have spent the last couple of weeks digging a massive grave and I can’t help but think karma will mean we will all have to lie in that grave later on tonight….
Haven’t they been doing exactly the same? So karma works both ways…


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:07:01
Pre match conner bate a game a nogger, youth! in The Wheatsheaf.
Well, here we are again somewhere between Birmingham & Manchester.
A couple in here to settle the nerves then head off to Hanley.
One or two decent ale houses there along with a sense of time standing still for a moment when a stranger crosses the threshold.

Have the same pre Harrogate feeling that Barry might do good things tonight & could also be some Welsh wizardry in the air as well.

Might be best to approach the game as a one off and just forget about the slim advantage?
As we know the best team over the 2 legs doesn't always make it through.
Not playing well & progressing still works.

Our respective movements through the divisions always seem to be separated by a season or two.
So wouldn't begrudge them winning L2 by 15 points next season if it means we are in L1.

So, the 45 min walk back to the hotel along the aptly named Waterloo Road after the game will either fly by or seem like an interminable slot.

I'll leave the final word to Lemmy.
"Only way to feel the noise is when its good and loud.
So good I can't believe it, screaming with the crowd."





Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:07:55
I’m convinced we’ll concede early and go onto lose the game.

Too much crap about attendances and style of football - two things in football that count for exactly fuck all once the whistle blows and the game starts.

Certain sections of our support have spent the last couple of weeks digging a massive grave and I can’t help but think karma will mean we will all have to lie in that grave later on tonight….

Totally with you on most of that, but it's done now so c'est la vie. The only thing that matters tonight is that they don't score more than us over 90/120/pens.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:11:55
Vale fans got their panties in a twist again about our ‘arrogance’. Quoting Conroy saying we’re better footballers than them, don’t  need to use elbows etc.

Personally, I think confidence is a good thing. Doesn’t always turn out well, but you can’t go into a game thinking you’re going to get beat.

My thoughts are polar opposite to yours. I can understand why he's said what he has said. Get under the skin of the Vale players and they play without control. However one of Dion's problems earlier in the season was over confidence where he would make silly gaffs and he needs to be properly concentrated over the course of the game. I really really hope his comments don't come back to bite him in the arse. Personally i'd rather he said something bland and vanilla but if the gamesmanship works, then fantastic.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:21:45
Haven’t they been doing exactly the same? So karma works both ways…

Yeah but they don’t support Swindon


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:25:11
Hoping to bump into some reds at Stafford Services later if time allows. Starting to get a little bit excited now, clock watching already. A couple of work calls should kill a bit of time to 4 ish.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:26:00
My thoughts are polar opposite to yours. I can understand why he's said what he has said. Get under the skin of the Vale players and they play without control. However one of Dion's problems earlier in the season was over confidence where he would make silly gaffs and he needs to be properly concentrated over the course of the game. I really really hope his comments don't come back to bite him in the arse. Personally i'd rather he said something bland and vanilla but if the gamesmanship works, then fantastic.
But we aren’t going to win or lose on the basis of what Conroy said. If he makes a gaff he’ll still have made that gaff irrespective. As I said earlier, I’m sure a lot of Garner’s man management is telling them they are, indeed, better than the opposition. Too much bland, cliched crap spouted.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:27:12
Hoping to bump into some reds at Stafford Services later if time allows. Starting to get a little bit excited now, clock watching already. A couple of work calls should kill a bit of time to 4 ish.
It’s a long drag for me - KO here is 9.45pm. I’m off for some early beers and a bit of nosh to pass the time.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:30:31
But we aren’t going to win or lose on the basis of what Conroy said. If he makes a gaff he’ll still have made that gaff irrespective. As I said earlier, I’m sure a lot of Garner’s man management is telling them they are, indeed, better than the opposition. Too much bland, cliched crap spouted.

I disagree to an extent. I think he has now put more pressure on himself than he needs to.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:31:03
It’s a long drag for me - KO here is 9.45pm. I’m off for some early beers and a bit of nosh to pass the time.

Don't fall asleep and miss the game!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:31:32
May be for the best that!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:34:02
May be for the best that!

Yeah I understand that thinking! Wake up in a haze looking for flights and Wembley tickets :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 09:39:31
I absolutely hate watching on iFollow and regularly turn it off. I’ll grit me teeth, buttocks clenched and take my medicine tonight.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:03:19
good news, it's on sky.

presumably you'll have to find another source?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:06:02
Strange comments from some of them. Not that impressed by us on Sunday so they should do us tonight, and the goals we scored were down to them and not us.  Firstly, that's the worst we have played in the last 5 games. Secondly, what does that say about Vale? Arrogance? Seems to be a lot of it from them convinced they are going to batter us.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:14:30
Strange comments from some of them. Not that impressed by us on Sunday so they should do us tonight, and the goals we scored were down to them and not us.  Firstly, that's the worst we have played in the last 5 games. Secondly, what does that say about Vale? Arrogance? Seems to be a lot of it from them convinced they are going to batter us.
I think both teams came away from Sunday thinking they underperformed, and it's easy to see why they'd look at that performance and think we're beatable. If they click tonight I'm sure it'll be tough and we'll need to be on it from the first minute. If we put in a proper performance we'll be ok but one mistake or dodgy penalty and they're right back in it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:20:11
good news, it's on sky.

presumably you'll have to find another source?
I have Sky


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:23:56
Strange comments from some of them. Not that impressed by us on Sunday so they should do us tonight, and the goals we scored were down to them and not us.  Firstly, that's the worst we have played in the last 5 games. Secondly, what does that say about Vale? Arrogance? Seems to be a lot of it from them convinced they are going to batter us.

What it says about Vale is they are judging their teams ability over 47 games & judging ours based on 1 (maybe 3 if said fan also saw both league games)

The same way any home fan would judge a team they’ve seen 40 odd times against a team they’ve seen twice.

If we had lost to Vale on Sunday - we’d be saying exactly the same thing - we were poor and they capitalised on that and if we play to our best we can beat them in the second leg.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:34:29
Not sure why we lose sight of the fact that football supporters consider their side to be ace and usually regard their opponents with disdain.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:40:55
Not sure why we lose sight of the fact that football supporters consider their side to be ace and usually regard their opponents with disdain.

I’m not sure it’s even that - but if they watch their team every week they have a true idea of how good their team can be.

It’s also L2 so I expect most teams can beat most teams when they play ‘their best’ but promotion is won by the most consistent teams.

Take ourselves as an example - at our best we could beat anyone in this league. But we don’t play our best every week. You’d probably find the fans of the top 8 or 9 teams on this division could say the same ‘at our best we could…’

I’ve no doubt Port Vale playing at their peak level of performance could turn us over & vice versa. The probability of either or both teams playing their absolute best is slim.

Like Sunday we just have to make sure we are better on the day.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:42:45
Looking forward to going 50mph all the way up the M6. Hopefully see some familiar faces there COYR!

I'll go for 1-1


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: cdakev on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:53:43
There's a lot of negativety on here !

I'm confident we will win.  2-0 to us will see you through comfortably (not the Swindon way)

See you all at Wembley !

COYR


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 10:56:29
Overcast earlier with a slight chill, light shower & now the sun is trying to poke through.

Don't mind being addressed as "me duck", but sir would be preferable.

Anyway, found Wobbly Bob on draught. This is a very good omen.



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:13:04
I've seen people on twitter saying these two pubs will accept Town fans tonight:

The Moorland Inn (a few minutes walk from what's normally the away end)
https://www.sizzlingpubs.co.uk/findapub/eastandwestmidlands/themoorlandinnburslem#/

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The White Horse (1 mile from the away end, parking available)
141-143 Brownhills Rd, Tunstall, Stoke-on-Trent ST6 4JU

Matty Crockett
@mattycrockett
Town fans, spoke with the owners of The White Horse Inn - 141-143 Brownhills Rd, Tunstall, ST6 4JU they are happy to allow away fans today. 12 mins walk or 5 by car.  Can park at the back of the pub or in Topps tiles over the road.  #stfc


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:25:33
I've seen people on twitter saying these two pubs will accept Town fans tonight:

The Moorland Inn (a few minutes walk from what's normally the away end)
https://www.sizzlingpubs.co.uk/findapub/eastandwestmidlands/themoorlandinnburslem#/

------

The White Horse (1 mile from the away end, parking available)
141-143 Brownhills Rd, Tunstall, Stoke-on-Trent ST6 4JU

Matty Crockett
if someone goes to the Moorland Inn please get the nashville nachos...I would love to know what nashville inspired seasoning tastes like  :( :(      When i goto nashville, it just doesnt say NACHOS to me  :D
@mattycrockett
Town fans, spoke with the owners of The White Horse Inn - 141-143 Brownhills Rd, Tunstall, ST6 4JU they are happy to allow away fans today. 12 mins walk or 5 by car.  Can park at the back of the pub or in Topps tiles over the road.  #stfc


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:30:42
An important point raised Godd002, but your quoting skills need work!  :D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:44:48
An important point raised Godd002, but your quoting skills need work!  :D
Sorted ;)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:54:16
An important point raised Godd002, but your quoting skills need work!  :D

ya...i can't quit get my head around long quotes  ???   good thing I am not a teacher  DUH!! :cry:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Banker on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:58:48
Take the game to them, front foot from the off, pace and a high tempo, stretch the defence and they’ll struggle to cope methinks.

Geddon Town.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 11:59:34
Vale fans still moaning about our arrogance as a club, fans, players, ex players etc.

Football club in "full of confidence" shocker.

What sort of a club and fanbase would we be if we were going into a 2nd leg at Vale without confidence of winning the tie? we son the 1st leg 2-1, we are better away from home, we can play way better than we did in the first leg, we beat them 3-1 at their place a few months ago, we have the form player in the league in McKirdy, we are taking a sell out away attendance and would have sold near double the amount if given the tickets.

Why the fuck wouldnt we be confident?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:12:50
Vale fans still moaning about our arrogance as a club, fans, players, ex players etc.

Football club in "full of confidence" shocker.

What sort of a club and fanbase would we be if we were going into a 2nd leg at Vale without confidence of winning the tie? we son the 1st leg 2-1, we are better away from home, we can play way better than we did in the first leg, we beat them 3-1 at their place a few months ago, we have the form player in the league in McKirdy, we are taking a sell out away attendance and would have sold near double the amount if given the tickets.

Why the fuck wouldnt we be confident?

…because we are Swindon.
Enough reason to not be confident.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:12:53
I am feeling very nervous about this game.  but i also feel confident we advance.  not sure what that score looks like.  
i think we can lose but yet win??   If we come out and play like we have for past 6 games, all will be fine.  I have to think McKirdy will be that cocaine fueled squirrel today just to piss off the fans and other players.

The more I think about it the more i think our boys come out balls a blazin'    2-1 Town going to Wembley!  


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:14:41
…because we are Swindon.
Enough reason to not be confident.


Nope....you now got nieve, uninformed, unacclimated American hope now pulling for you..what could go wrong???  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:19:23
Safe travels to you all that got tickets.
I'm not bitter!!! 
:nod: :nod: :nod:

C'mon Town 🙏🙏


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:29:58
The road is never the easy one where this wonderful football club is concerned.
We've been down the route of 10 men & penalties not once but twice.
What could top that. 6-6 tonight, easy win, then Mansfield come back from 4-0 down at Wembley, hanging on with 9 men in the 2nd half for a glorious victory or getting stuffed by 4 or 5.
The more outlandish the option, then the more likely that it is going to happen.

Edit: Oh yeah, there have been so many play off shenanigans that forgot about being about 12 seconds away from a final in Cardiff as well.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:42:33
Good luck to all you weary travellers, I have changed the desktop background of all my Bristol shitty/wovers colleagues at work to STFC's shield in preparation.

Do we stand a chance of repeating our 3-1 win earlier in the season? Absolutely. Do I think it'll be as easy as that? Absolutely not.

It's Swindon Town and we always somehow make life difficult for ourselves, so I expect to be fully on edge of my seat by the 94th minute tonight.

COYR


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:47:24
https://twitter.com/Eth2nWFC/status/1525951427100782595?s=20&t=VRMnOL_xqjF4GedAbpQ0mg

Some of the comments and match ups are hilarious  ;D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:56:29
Seems everybody and their dog want a Vale win tonight


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 12:57:08
I have a dog and I don't want them to win.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:00:45
Ditto


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:10:51
We're Swindle innit.
Of course everyone wants us to lose.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:13:59
We're Swindle innit.
Of course everyone wants us to lose.
Jealousy is a bad trait in opposition fans.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:14:12
We are Swindle.  We are Swindle.  No one likes us.  We don't care.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:14:44
We are Swindon, No one likes us !!.
Who gives a shit,  we’re going to win !!.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:15:38
We're Swindle innit.
Of course everyone wants us to lose.

No one likes us we don't care.

If it wasn't synonymous with those Millwall cretins I'd quite like the tag line for ourselves


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:15:52
We are Swindle.  We are Swindle.  No one likes us.  We don't care.
Beat me by two seconds!.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 13:47:08
Time to start getting my shit together for the journey up to Stoke-On-Trent.

That said, it goes without saying that I hope we do ourselves justice on the pitch and we end up hoarse in the Bycars stand.

Prediction wise, I can't help but feeling pessimistic and I think Vale will score early and late to put a nail in our promotion coffin. 2-0 Vale.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 14:00:47
Hope it's not going to be another Bolton league Cup 95 again.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 14:01:00
Piece of piss. 1-4


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 14:01:43
Hope it's not going to be another Bolton league Cup 95 again.
‘Wanker, Wanker John’ . . .


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 14:33:21
Just arrived at our hotel, getting nervous now


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 14:36:02
Hope it's not going to be another Bolton league Cup 95 again.

That would be the nightmare scenario.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:28:36
Just got to the ground, Police are ripping the piss out of Vale for flipping the ends. None of them or the stewards have any idea what they are doing as this has never been done before and there has been no planning for it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:38:44
I'd be intereteted to know if they still park the coaches behind the away end.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:46:57
I'd be intereteted to know if they still park the coaches behind the away end.
They won’t be parking by the end we are in that’s for sure as there’s no car park.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:48:10
They won’t be parking by the end we are in that’s for sure as there’s no car park.

Let's hope the car park is well policed


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:49:17
Don’t you know pump it up, the reds are going up!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:53:03
Harry McKirdy, Harry McKirdy,
He hates Carlisle, he hates Port Vale,
He loves fucking Swindon


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:57:17
Fuming I ain’t gone anyway even without a ticket…there’ll be a couple floating about I’m sure…prediction 2-2…gutted


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 16:58:19
Trying to be excited in my lounge but it’s only making me more depressed thinking I could have and should have travelled 🙄


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:00:30
Don't go on the STFC Facebook page there's a guy selling a ticket outside the ground selling a ticket😅


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:03:31
Harry McKirdy, Harry McKirdy,
He hates Carlisle, he hates Port Vale,
He loves fucking Swindon
Great words Tom. What's the tune?🙂


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:06:37
Don't go on the STFC Facebook page there's a guy selling a ticket outside the ground selling a ticket😅

Fucking knew it🙄…absolute clown for not going


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:07:55
Always the way!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:08:59
What’s the record number of pages for a reg prematch thread? Only fitting we get to Wembley after his passing this year.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:28:10
What’s the record number of pages for a reg prematch thread? Only fitting we get to Wembley after his passing this year.

Last year


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:28:31
Big selection decisions ahead. Stick with an unchanged lineup or bring in the stronger option?

That's right, am I on the Thatcher's Gold or do I tuck into the 7.4 percent vintage?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:33:03
Same team for us.

No Proctor in the squad for them...suddenly a bit more confident.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:33:22
Same team for us.

No Proctor in the squad for them...suddenly a bit more confident.

That is a boost!

Benning starting though, looked really dangerous when he came on in the first leg.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:35:09
Just realised we have scored 12 and conceded 3 in the last 5.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:35:55
Interesting to see if Jojo gets the nod ahead of Ward. That's the only potential change I'd consider if I was BG


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:40:34
TOWN STARTING XI 👥 | Ward; Iandolo, Conroy (C), Baudry, Davison, Payne, McKirdy, Egbo, Barry, Williams, Reed.

SUBS | Wollacott, Odimayo, Gladwin, O’Brien, Mitchell-Lawson, Aguiar, Parsons


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:41:05
Last year

Sorry you pedantic cunt…this season


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:44:22
Highlights of the first leg on before the second on Sky, a nice warm up.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 17:51:37
Great words Tom. What's the tune?🙂
The Harry Maguire / Dion Conroy chant


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:11:55
Sorry you pedantic cunt…this season

Last season. Not pedantic just correct. Fuckwit.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:12:51
Anyone else sat patiently waiting but bricking it?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:13:10
Anyone else sat patiently waiting but bricking it?
Nope I am calm, whatever will be will be.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:13:19
Anyone know of any live streams? Assumed it’d be on totalsportek but it’s not.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:13:30
Yep.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:15:14
Anyone know of any live streams? Assumed it’d be on totalsportek but it’s not.

Never mind, found one.

1-2.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:15:17
Maybe it's because I'm a pensioner but I'm more nervous for this than any of the previous 8.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:15:42
Maybe it's because I'm a pensioner but I'm more nervous for this than any of the previous 8.

Yup. I am not going to enjoy this, but there you go.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:15:53
not sure about there but ESPN+ does not turn the live feed on until just before the match..pisses me off...want to see what is going on.!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 70s townender on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:16:30
Good luck men,see you all at Wembley. Mkirdy wins a pen in 1st 15mins Payne converts and swindon get an easy 4-0 win .400/1 "BOOM".Wembley paid for ."WE GO AS WARRIORS "


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:17:33
because i dont remember...was it northhampton that was knocked out of the autos by that crazy 7-0 game?



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:18:23
Good luck men,see you all at Wembley. Mkirdy wins a pen in 1st 15mins Payne converts and swindon get an easy 4-0 win .400/1 "BOOM".Wembley paid for ."WE GO AS WARRIORS "


I Like What You are drinking!!!!!!1    :beers:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:19:02
because i dont remember...was it northhampton that was knocked out of the autos by that crazy 7-0 game?



It was. Heartbreaking way to lose out.

Ben Garner's birthday today. Let's give him a proper present.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:22:32
Poor atmosphere at the moment from the massive Vale fans, not much of a roar more a meow.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:22:53
Come on you fuckers.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:23:04
Well here we go, COME ON YOU MIGHTY FUCKING REDS!!!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:23:06
Poor atmosphere at the moment from the massive Vale fans, not much of a roar more a meow.

PA system sounds a fair bit better than ours mind.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 70s townender on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:24:56
"COME ON YOU REDS"SWINDON TOWN FROM THE WEST COUNTRY"


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:25:57
What is she on about, most of that sound was the PA.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:26:20
Loads of empty seats too.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:27:16
The excitement is at fever pitch down here in the SW


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:27:39
Me and the boy have just sat down to watch it! COYR


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:30:15
Oh no, set piece


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:31:47
Bloody hell! What a miss!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:31:57
How has he missed that Christ!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:01
We have started nervously.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:05
Can't stand much of this😅


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:07
Wow


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:09
We look nervous.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:15
We look a bit numb


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:24
C'mon Town! Game has started!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: welshred on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:32:48
Who the fuck is marking from that throw?????


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:33:01
really shit passes by town...


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:33:26
really shit passes by town...

We haven't had the ball yet


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:34:12
We've started with no intensity again. Like we did before we went on our latest run


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:34:21
Need to wake up.  We're asleep.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:35:02
Hand ball. Penalty not given


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:35:34
just criminal not to call that.....wasn't even close....


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:35:57
Shit


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:36:02
Fuck me!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:36:05
Fuck me this is a bad start.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:36:22
He's offside as well


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:36:25
Fucked by the officials already


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:36:39
Thought he was offside in real time. Replay shows it was.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:36:55
Well, if we don't win this I think I could write Garner's post match for him.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:37:10
Cheating cunts.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: welshred on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:37:10
He’s fucking way offside but we haven’t even started yet and look abysmal.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:37:23
And there it is.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:37:26
absolute fucking horrible ref work....just fucking horrible....



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:37:42
Turning off already.

This is fucking garbage.
I hope those going on about attendances the last few weeks eat humble pie. Dickheads


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:37:53
Fucked by the officials already
Twice.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:38:01
Yard offside, and we should have had a pen.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:38:25
Two fucking useless linesmen


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shizzle on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:38:39
We look lost on this big pitch


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:38:56
Was onside


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:41:22
Was onside
Wasnt.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 70s townender on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:41:43
"Come on you reds"early days,early days we haven't started yet   not worried yet ,ha


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:42:02
Wasnt.


either way...definitely a no brainer handball...that changes everything


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:42:19
Turning off already.

This is fucking garbage.
I hope those going on about attendances the last few weeks eat humble pie. Dickheads

You seem to have a peculiar theory of causality. Unless you're suggesting match officials hang around on can forums and make suit decisions to punish can overconfidence?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:43:25
Never mind, found one.

1-2.

Care to share?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:44:55
The space we are giving them is criminal


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:45:16
You seem to have a peculiar theory of causality. Unless you're suggesting match officials hang around on can forums and make suit decisions to punish can overconfidence?

I’m saying acting Billy big bollocks in football is usually followed by a massive fucking slap from reality.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:45:21
I dont mind trying to do a long cross but fucking man up and kick the ball with some height.....about the 4th one that has been intercepted.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:45:44
The space we are giving them is criminal

completely correct!!! need to man up


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:46:27
Wasnt.

Egbo played him ONSIDE

We have been abysmal...looks like they don't want to win


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:46:30
Diving bastards.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:47:00
Egbo played him ONSIDE


Yes


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:47:04
We have been abysmal...looks like they don't want to win
Agree with that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:49:16
pitch is dry and a bone and too slow for our free flowing football


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:49:33
Garner interview before kick off was all about going at them from the off, high intensity.  So the polar opposite of what actually happened.

Ironically, best hope now is to slow their game right down and then come at them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:50:12
Sort it the fuck out.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:50:52
Egbo is having a mare defensively and getting no help!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:51:23
It appears that the empty seats have not dampened PV's attacking intent.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:51:48
why does davison seem to think he has to get in way of the ball and thus making it go backwards or just to the other team?
just shield and go with it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:52:22
It appears that the empty seats have not dampened PV's attacking intent.
Didnt you call them tinpot?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:52:29
Christ, this is poor from us.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:52:34
This is setting up like the second half on Sunday. McKirdy 93rd minute winner  :D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:52:44
Didnt you call them tinpot?

 :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:52:58
I have a feeling this might end up 3 or 4 nill to PV


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:53:11
This is setting up like the second half on Sunday. McKirdy 93rd minute winner  :D

This would be lovely!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:53:18
This is setting up like the second half on Sunday. McKirdy 93rd minute winner  :D

Thanks.  I'll relax then.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:53:25
This is setting up like the second half on Sunday. McKirdy 93rd minute winner  :D
Settle for that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:53:49
The goalpost has done more than us so far.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:53:52
This is following on from the 2nd half in the 1st leg

We have no midfield!

Vale are up for it We are on the beach already!



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:54:23
I would take pens at the moment TBH.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:55:57
I would take pens at the moment TBH.
It will be if we can hang on for another 95 minutes.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:56:15
I would take pens at the moment TBH.

I wouldn’t because Sod’s law it will be McKirdy who misses


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:56:40
Egbo is having a mare defensively and getting no help!
Agreed. He looks to be ambling round the pitch too.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:59:18
Agreed. He looks to be ambling round the pitch too.
Indeed but hes been good lately so hes allowed a poor one, even if its such an important game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:59:39
This is actually embarrassing to watch



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 18:59:56
Iandolo a one man team at the moment. Nobody else has shown up.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:00:00
Could be all over at half time.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:00:43
Honours still even ... currently at least


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:00:59
Could be all over at half time.
Don't write us off its still early.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:01:17
Could be all over at half time.
I think it already is.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:02:48
What the fucking shit is going on 😡


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:03:51
We're absolutely ripe for taking at the moment. PV will kick themselves if we end up going through at the moment


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:05:01
What the fucking shit is going on 😡
Its called a game of football, but at the moment we're not involved.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:05:25
PV are doing what they need to do. As long as we hold them off, they'll run out of steam eventually


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:06:21
Its called a game of football, but at the moment we're not involved.

Not sure we are playing football


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:07:46
I’d get Egbo off, he’s not interested for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:09:14
We'll be better second half. Surely couldn't be fucking worse.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:10:28
PV are doing what they need to do. As long as we hold them off, they'll run out of steam eventually

Credit to Vale. They've never stopped pressing.  You've got to hope they tail off, I agree.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:12:37
Iandolo,after a very shaky start,looks our most accomplished player at the moment


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:12:53
Next goal so important


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:14:25
2nd to every ball,

Losing every 50-50

Out thought, out fought

Embarrassing


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:14:58
Worst half this season, and that's even comparing against Newport and Orient.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:15:16
HT 0-1

Vale took the game to us, still all to play for though.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: welshred on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:15:55
Let’s see what Garner is made of. We’ve seen none of that intensity he was talking about. Almost all of our team look way off it or generally Not that interested.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:15:58
Don't get the gloom. Yes,first 20 shocking but we've settled reasonably well. Final ball is all


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:16:03
Worst half this season
Things can only get better.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:16:21
The one positive from that half is we're still in the game and hope Garner rips into them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:16:53
Jeez.

Positives first - I think Ellis Iandolo has been outstanding. Unfortunately games aren't often won from left back but he's been excellent in attack and defence. Otherwise, in the last ten minutes we've grown into the game and calmed the crowd.

The flip side is that the first 35 minutes was an absolute disasterclass. Can probably raise an eyebrow at the refereeing but I think the handball was probably outside the box and the offside probably too close to call with Egbo's foot. More pertinent is that we got absolutely overrun. Vale played really well, put themselves about a bit but played football as well. We really struggled with the wider pitch.

This is where the manager earns his money. Over to you Ben Garner, it's level. 45 minutes to Wemble and we'll consign that first half hour to the rubbish bin of history. Come on you Reds


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:16:59
Well that went exactly how I expected in all honesty. We look so poor.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:17:08
Some positive spin.  To go in only 1-0 down is a result for us.  Still level on aggregate, and a chance to recover & rebuild.  Most important HT talk now of Garner's career.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:17:33
Don't get the gloom. Yes,first 20 shocking but we've settled reasonably well. Final ball is all
Agreed, that was far from the worst half of the season, yes we were poor but we are still in it and ended better.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:17:37
Plenty to play for in the 2nd half. We started to settle in the last 10-15 so reset and push on from there

I also have sky go so i'm around 1 minute behind you lot


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:17:52
Just a bit of composure needed which is hard in the play off environment. Keep the faith-come
On Town.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:18:44
Well that was horrific we seem devoid of a game plan. The defenders and keeper are arguing over what to do with goal kicks, bar a run towards the end of the half Egbo is a passenger and we are getting dominated in midfield. We need to change something as it can’t carry on like this. Vale have no quality but they are putting us under pressure purely by putting high balls into areas and we can’t deal with it.

Looked a blatant penalty before they scored though and not sure if the scorer was offside?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:19:34
Port Vale XG 1.70

Lucky us. Town 0.35, not really sure when that was..


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:19:44
We're making them look dangerous, when really they're a bunch of shithouses.

Their niggly fouls are breaking up our play.

I don't think they'll tire, they're well up for this. We have to break the press and find that final ball.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:20:36
Lucky it's only 1-0.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:20:38
Some positive spin.  To go in only 1-0 down is a result for us.  Still level on aggregate, and a chance to recover & rebuild.  Most important HT talk now of Garner's career.
Absolutely . Forgetting the blatant penalty we are very much in this. We improved as the half went on. We get the final ball right and we can do this


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:21:56
Sky saying we've had 56% possession - really ?.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 70s townender on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:22:24
Ben's just texts me apparently  the plan was to play shit 1st half but to concede no more than 1 goal  get all his birthday money on now they are 6/1,2nd half will be a  different game and he will be surprised if we don't get at least 4."come on you reds" time for another spliff I think


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:22:45
Sky saying we've had 56% possession - really ?.

Seems likely, it was just all between our back four and Reed. Vale let us pass around the back and then pressed when we got boxed it. Ward's distribution really being played on.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:24:55
Ben's just texts me apparently  the plan was to play shit 1st half but to concede no more than 1 goal  get all his birthday money on now they are 6/1,2nd half will be a  different game and he will be surprised if we don't get at least 4."come on you reds" time for another spliff I think
That's not how they're calling it on the telly ;)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:25:20
Barry is starting to look lively after a quiet first leg. What were we expecting? Them not to come at us. We're level at HT in an away game. Fuck me lots of jerking of the knee at this stage. Wonder how they felt at half time at ours?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:25:30
So much doom and gloom, we are still fucking level, this is far from over, all we need is to keep it tighter at the back and even grab a goal on the break, its far from impossible.

Maybe it doesn't look likely but its definately possible, if we can win more fouls and get them some deserved bookings and maybe a sending off, they are niggly dirty fuckers but they know what is the game plan and how to play it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:25:43
Agreed, that was far from the worst half of the season, yes we were poor but we are still in it and ended better.

Are you watching a different game?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:28:58
Come on then Swindon. Lets get it going.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:29:14
Port Vale are simply bullying us in midfield.

Tight marking and stopping Town from creating anything worth while.

Hope I am wrong but can't see much changing 2nd half

COYMRs


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 70s townender on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:30:15
"Come on you reds"the game is there for the taking attack,attack,attack.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:30:32
Come on lads. Make yourselves heroes.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:30:46
Did Vale score 2 goals that I missed or something?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:31:04
Did Vale score 2 goals that I missed or something?
It appears so mate.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:33:02
Fuck me you'd think we were 3 nil down from the sound of you lot. WE ARE NOT EVEN BEHIND FFS!

When was the last time we didn't before away?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:35:46
Town fans sounding good


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:36:02
Fuck me you'd think we were 3 nil down from the sound of you lot. WE ARE NOT EVEN BEHIND FFS!

When was the last time we didn't before away?

It's not the scoreline but the performance that is annoying supporters!!

Yes it is only 1-0 but should be 4 or 5 nil


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:36:52
This is better. Although though Iandolo might get a yellow for booting it away


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:38:33
Town outsinging a quiet Vale.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:39:31
Town outsinging a quiet Vale.

We're giving as good as we're getting but both sets of fans 10x louder than the first leg.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:40:01
It has always occurred to me that, if you are in div 4, it is probably a stretch to proclaim vociferously that you are 'the greatest team the world has ever seen'.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:41:07
Another stupid yellow card


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:41:21
It has always occurred to me that, if you are in div 4, it is probably a stretch to proclaim vociferously that you are 'the greatest team the world has ever seen'.
Because its hard to fit in "the greatest possessional team that league 2 has ever seen" is too long.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:41:26
Are the Vale players made of straw? Lightweight cunts


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:42:13
Innevitable Dolo yellow.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:42:28
It has always occurred to me that, if you are in div 4, it is probably a stretch to proclaim vociferously that you are 'the greatest team the world has ever seen'.

Why do you bother?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:43:02
The greatest team north wilts has ever seen might work.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:44:25
Certainly looking better so far this half.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:44:30
Fuck off


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:45:15
Clever from JW


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:45:43
Keith Lemon on for Vale.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:47:21
Let's fuck em up.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:48:24
Apart from Gladwin for Williams we don't have many options on the bech to change the game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:48:43
Wrongly thought jack Payne would have the most composure on the pitch


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:49:15
Penalties looking likely I would say


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:50:46
Wrongly thought jack Payne would have the most composure on the pitch

Steve Hale saying Payne has been our best player😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:51:18
Joke they didn’t give us more tickets looking at those empty seats


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 70s townender on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:51:39
Jbz get a pint or something before hou slit your wrists


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:51:45
Steve Hale saying Payne has been our best player😀

That’s why I’m sat on me sofa


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:52:37
That’s why I’m sat on me sofa

 :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:53:20
:clap: :clap:

Love ya jimmy


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:54:23
Love ya jimmy

And you Jimbob :football:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:54:48
Can anybody jump outside and do the rain dance so we can start playing our passing game?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:56:00
Much better in the second half. Just very, very tense now


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:57:00
Super attendance figure for the home side


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:57:10
Att, 11,600 sit down in your empty seats😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:57:28
Att: 11,669 (2,113)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:57:37
It's not the scoreline but the performance that is annoying supporters!!

Yes it is only 1-0 but should be 4 or 5 nil
Bit like us in the first leg


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:57:41
Super attendance figure for the home side
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:58:27
Att, 11,600 sit down in your empty seats😀

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:58:30
Att, 11,600 sit down in your empty seats😀

So we could have took 4500 had they given us the proper away end 🙄


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:59:14
Nice save


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:59:23
Cleared off the line from Reed!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:59:31
So we could have took 4500 had they given us the proper away end 🙄
Their Loss.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:59:38
I'm not sure what their true capacity is


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 19:59:59
Shocking how we can not just clear a ball....too much emphasis on controlling in the back field....stupid


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:00:09
Cleared off the line from Reed!
Or was it a foot save from Ward?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:00:23
Their Loss.

Cunts


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:00:51
I'm not sure what their true capacity is

Wiki says 20,552


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:00:55
Town needs to start moving faster...need a goal!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:01:20
I'm not sure what their true capacity is

It would have been plenty for us had they not been cunts


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:01:29
Or was it a foot save from Ward?
Thats what I thought.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:01:53
Wiki says 20,552

About 14,500 with restrictions


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: welshred on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:02:12
Still doesn’t feel like any fluidity. Every time we go forward our passing is never quite right. We’ve played some great stuff over the last few matches but just doesn’t seem to be clicking tonight.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:02:17
Wiki says 20,552

It used to be but it seems conflicting on their forums and somewhere between 13,500-15,000


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:03:42
It used to be but it seems conflicting on their forums and somewhere between 13,500-15,000

Good Job they didn't make it 80,000 as the Wembley of the North  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:04:12
😀😀😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:05:25
Wondering how much longer Williams can last?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:05:47
Wondering how much longer Williams can last?

About 30 seconds


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:05:47
They look fucked


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:06:42
Gladwin on for Willi... not Williams! Barry off. Interesting.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:08:33
Please don't lose it in the last 10 mins  :(


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:09:44
Tense


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:11:03
Come on Swindon dig deep boys would be amazing


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Moss on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:11:08
It’s been a good season. Play offs suck when you lose. Feels inevitable now.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:11:50
Was never gonna be relaxing


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:11:55
It’s been a good season. Play offs suck when you lose. Feels inevitable now.
Fuck Off.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:12:03
This is setting up like the second half on Sunday. McKirdy 93rd minute winner  :D

Can this happen please!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:12:25
I dont understand the lack of urgency....they players have to know there is nobody on the bench to come in
if this goes to OT it is over


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jimbob on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:13:07
We are fucked but so are they


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:13:11
Is that 87? Forgot my glasses.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:13:27
I dont understand the lack of urgency....they players have to know there is nobody on the bench to come in
if this goes to OT it is over

Nearly time for the 2 minute drill


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:13:33
Which teams lasts through extra time?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cowley38 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:14:19
Back to being shit again


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:16:14
That is fucking that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:16:24
Oh shit 😢


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:16:35
4 mins added.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:17:08
Well done Ward


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:18:06
Fucking hell.. following this thread is more nerve racking as i'm behind on Sky Go


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:19:59
Fucks sake town, it's £5.25 a pint here  ;D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:20:27
Much better second half but good lord the nerves are mounting. Come on you Reds.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:20:44
Extra Time.

Well here we go, COME ON YOU MIGHTY FUCKING REDS!!!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:20:48
Under 12k? That is pathetic.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: welshred on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:21:01
Still miles away from our best but still hanging in there


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:21:22
Back to being shit again
Bloody hell, you're on a downer.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:21:32
better but how Vale haven't won this ..

still..


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:21:47
Still all to play for


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:22:55
A better half but not creating and too many players bottling the chance to shoot. Davison really needs to sort his first touch as this game literally nothing has stuck to him.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:23:06
The vale coach looks like he beats little dogs


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:23:54
A better half but not creating and too many players bottling the chance to shoot. Davison really needs to sort his first touch as this game literally nothing has stuck to him.

this game, last game, last game, last game......a literal brick wall


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:23:58
Poor game for our strikers tonight. McKirdy has been quiet.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:24:05
A better half but not creating and too many players bottling the chance to shoot. Davison really needs to sort his first touch as this game literally nothing has stuck to him.

Fantastic backing by the Town fans


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:24:24
Don’t want penalties.
Can’t take it.

Shame there is no one on the bench to change the game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:25:34
Poor game for our strikers tonight. McKirdy has been quiet.

Yep! Both him and Davison should have plenty left in the tank for ET


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:25:57
Poor game for our strikers tonight. McKirdy has been quiet.
Anonymous


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:26:24
And Payne


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:29:19
Not okay from Clarke that. Feel for the guy, he's been through a lot but that's just not on.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:29:57
Not okay from Clarke that. Feel for the guy, he's been through a lot but that's just not on.
Hes a fucking knob.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:30:42
Davison has been manhandled all game yet got nothing given in his favour.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:36:22
nice defensive dive...fuck me


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:36:56
Looked painful


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:37:02
Iandolo hurt. He's been excellent.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:37:52
Iandolo hurt. He's been excellent.
He started really poor but grew into the game, one of his better.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:40:17
4 mins added.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:43:07
This is one of the worst games of football I've seen in a while.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:44:11
This is one of the worst games of football I've seen in a while.

Extra time always is, everyone is properly fucked.

God this is tense. Still feel there's a McKirdy moment coming, for good or bad.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:44:24
ET HT


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:44:31
This is one of the worst games of football I've seen in a while.
We have been nervous. Port Vale have nullified all of our threats.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:44:55
Fuck pens, let's go for it


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:45:13
Extra time always is, everyone is properly fucked.

God this is tense. Still feel there's a McKirdy moment coming, for good or bad.


i wish you were right....he doesnt want any part of this match for some reason


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:45:29
Don’t want penalties.
Can’t take it.

Shame there is no one on the bench to change the game.
I'd rather lose on pens than in extra time. Any day


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:45:36
Davison can’t move, basically down to 10 men, surely we need to change to at least have some mobility? I wouldn’t back him taking a penalty with his finishing anyway so not worth just keeping him on incase of pens.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:45:37
Level at ET I'll be fucking off home  ain't watching that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:46:04

i wish you were right....he doesnt want any part of this match for some reason
If it goes to pens then I wouldnt fancy Harry taking one in front of their fans, in front of Town fans though I would bet on him to score.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:46:32
We have been nervous. Port Vale have nullified all of our threats.
And we have nullified all of theirs.  Have Faith.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:46:35
Davison can’t move, basically down to 10 men, surely we need to change to at least have some mobility? I wouldn’t back him taking a penalty with his finishing anyway so not worth just keeping him on incase of pens.


agreed....he is useless...may as well try something else....JJ suggested JOB in his place...why not??? what do we have to lose?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:46:35

i wish you were right....he doesnt want any part of this match for some reason

Don't think it's a want thing, he's obviously going to be up for playing Vale. Just had no service and the defenders have handled him really well, the Vale defence have been terrific.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:46:38
I didn't know Johnny Vegas owned PV? Am I wrong?  :eek:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:47:03
Davison has been manhandled all game yet got nothing given in his favour.
It's been happening every game


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:47:10
Extra time always is, everyone is properly fucked.

God this is tense. Still feel there's a McKirdy moment coming, for good or bad.

McKirdy has not been present all game but then service/pitch has not helped him


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:47:19
Extra time always is, everyone is properly fucked.

God this is tense. Still feel there's a McKirdy moment coming, for good or bad.

Missing a penalty…in front of the Vale fans..:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:47:21
JOB on for Williams.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:47:26
I wish they would stop showing Flitcroft, I feel sick enough as it is


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:48:09
I wish they would stop showing Flitcroft, I feel sick enough as it is
Hes timbered up recently.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:49:21
Missing a penalty…in front of the Vale fans..:

Negative DV, as always


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:49:28
Missing a penalty…in front of the Vale fans..:

Thought you'd switched off!

The thought had crossed my mind. Let's hope not.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:49:35
So has Wayne Rooney😀


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:50:28
maybe McKirdy hasnt gotten good service and/or defense is good...but look at his face....he looks scared..


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:51:15
maybe McKirdy hasnt gotten good service and/or defense is good...but look at his face....he looks scared..
I thought that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:52:55
Phenomonal tackle on Davison.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:53:23
Davison doesn't have any speed/quickness


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:53:35
Fucking foul


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:53:53
Davison doesn't have any speed/quickness

touch, football intelligence....but he does try   :D


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:54:34
Teddy Sheringham


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:55:19
TBF davison does keep going as he gets the shit kicked out of him..you have to admire that


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:55:33
Teddy Sheringham

just quite a bit shitter


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:55:38
Davison doesn't have any speed/quickness

It's 113 minutes into the game, nobody has any speed/quickness!

Just managed an Atomic Butt Drop on their keeper too. Heck of a shift, but there's not much quality there.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:55:47
touch, football intelligence....but he does try   :D
👏👏👏😎👏👏👏


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:56:09
TBF davison does keep going as he gets the shit kicked out of him..you have to admire that
Absolutely


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:56:27
It's 113 minutes into the game, nobody has any speed/quickness!
But they are all still quicker than Gladders! 😂


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:57:10
just quite a bit shitter

He's still young😀



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:57:21
It's 113 minutes into the game, nobody has any speed/quickness!

That's correct but it has been apparent in many other instances this season. Of course, his effort can't be questioned.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 20:57:33
Missing a penalty…in front of the Vale fans..:
A proper ray of sunshine🙂


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:02:10
Everyone on the pitch looks like they can barely stand

Nathan Smith given Vale MotM, which is fair.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:02:47
we've been so poor tonight.

forgot McKirdy was even playing


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:03:12
2 mins from pens.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:04:11
Off home


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:05:35
Pens it is.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:05:47
Christ alive my arsehole turned itself inside out there.

Penalties it is. Whatever happens, it's been a hell of a ride. I hope someone out there makes themselves a Stephen Darby rather than a Nicky Bailey.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:06:01
Ward has been good with regards to penalties, didn't want to say it though


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:06:23
No lack of effort there lads. Both full backs superb (did someone say earlier Egbo didn't look interested😮)and Baudry as classy as ever. Full of admiration for this group of players and if the ref had done his job properly we'd be at Wembley already


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:07:17
Win or lose it doesn't matter its been a good season, nothing to lose TBH for Town, nobosy expected us to be here back in August.

Well done no matter what.

Well here we go, COME ON YOU MIGHTY FUCKING REDS!!!!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:07:26
Either way. Great season. We've done better than we all expected.

Good luck everyone

COYRs


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:07:58
Win or lose it doesn't matter its been a good season, nothing to lose TBH for Town, nobosy expected us to be here back in August.

Well done no matter what.

Well here we go, COME ON YOU MIGHTY FUCKING REDS!!!!

THIS


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:08:11
I wouldn't let McKirdy take one


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:08:35
COYR.. good luck boys! Not sure my heart can take pens.. McKirdy should be last on the list!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:08:43
It's in fate's hands now.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:08:47
Exactly. Did we honestly believe we would be here back in August.
We're lucky we've a club let alone in the playoffs


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:08:54
Penalties are a lottery, don't watch em.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:11:07
As I'm slightly behind.. can someone keep the pens score line up to date?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:11:57
Yes


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:13:24
Yes


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:13:37
get in


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:13:51
Come on


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:14:16
fuck


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pantomime dame on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:14:23
This fucking murder


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:16:57
ffs


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:17:06
Shit


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:17:54
league 2 next season then


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:21:01
Come on Mansfield,  beat these cheating cunts.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:21:47
Unlucky


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NdahG on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:22:34
Well L2 title challenge for next year. Played the lottery and lost.. well done for this season lads


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:23:29
It is what it is, well done Town.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:23:29
Well, fuck. Fucking fucking fuck. Fucking fuck off. Fuck.

Really feel for Ellis. It shouldn't have been him. We'll be back next season, but this will hurt for a while.

Pitch invasions to celebrate are fine. Going for the opposition is just not. It's not going to stop until someone gets a proper punishment.

Vale defenders were exceptional.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:23:54
little fight with fans and our players....
horrible control by vale club


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:24:13
Ah well, we did superb this season.  Push on next year, see you in August Vale, no chance you'll beat Mansfield. Rather have heartache here than on May 28th.  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:24:24
Most undeserving team ever to get to Wembley. And yes I am bitter. Vile cunts fans and players alike.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:24:40
Well done Swindon, you’ve had a great season, shame it ended like this.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:25:07
Well, fuck. Fucking fucking fuck. Fucking fuck off. Fuck.

Really feel for Ellis. It shouldn't have been him.

i put it on coach/McKirdy...he should not have been in 1st 5...his head was not in the game the entire time....he is an emotional player and the coach needs to realize that....then he goes for an upper 90 shot...just stupid.....



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:25:13
So wish it didn't come down to an Iandolo miss. He was our MotM.

When Ward made the 2 saves, I dared to dream.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:25:26
Garbage.
Some of those penalties were fucking atrocious


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:26:57
Ah well, we did superb this season.  Push on next year, see you in August Vale, no chance you'll beat Mansfield. Rather have heartache here than on May 28th.  :girlgiggle:

Dunno what you have against Port Vale but they’ve got just as good a chance of going up as Mansfield.
They are a decent organised side


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:27:06
Fucking horrible to lose on penalties. Feel so sorry for Iandolo.

Sickened to see Vale fans go straight for the Swindon players.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:27:12
Fuuuuuck


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:27:13
Why the fuck did Davison think he could take a pen? Barely able to move for last 15.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:27:25
I was walking home. Fuck penalties.  Tempted to go to Wembley anyway to support Mansfield and fuck these cunts up. Up for it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:27:32
Well played Vale.  Your fans are scum.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:28:00
Why the fuck did Davison think he could take a pen? Barely able to move for last 15.

i assume the manager makes that decision????  neither striker should have been in first 5 tonight


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:29:23
Time to reflect
Clem you will now need to splash the cash.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:29:51
Vale having the most horrible fucking minging fans ever. I hope Mansfield absolutely do one on them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:30:09
See you all next season.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:30:58
i assume the manager makes that decision????  neither striker should have been in first 5 tonight

The manager’s got to check in with the player and make sure they’re up for it and not physically or mentally wrecked though. Surprised he managed to make it from the halfway line to the box.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:31:12

Clem you will now need to splash the cash.


To achieve a finish a mere 2 places above this season?  


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:32:59
Wow. What a season.

Ward did superbly as did the back 4. Front three didn’t turn up tonight. We can play better.

Not sure why McKirdy thought his penalty miss was funny. Why do players take stupid run ups?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:33:17
Ironic ain't it. In the final we'd  have been given that pen


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:34:23
Deflated.  Well done, my team.  You did us proud.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:35:27
Deflated.  Well done, my team.  You did us proud.
Yes indeed


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:36:02
Tough pill to swallow.  Thought Town were the better side over the two games but that is football.  

We performed better then expected this season.  Hopefully Town are able to sign a couple of decent centre forward who can hold onto the ball and bring other players into the game.  I think we would have struggled next season in league 1 (unless there was a massive squad overhaul) so it maybe a blessing in disguise.



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lemis on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:36:41
God Vale are scum. Manager assaulting Conroy, fans assaulting players on their pitch, players spent 2 games trying to kick the shit out of us.
We weren't good enough in the first half, but we should have had a penalty at 0-0. Refereeing has been awful all season and it's typical we are at the wrong end of such a blatant decision. Better team after half time but as per much of the season, just lacked the ability to put it in the net.  
Hope Mansfield stuff them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:37:23
Be interesting to see who stays and how much of a rebuild is needed for next season….


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:37:30
Harry and Josh were the two I was worried about in the shootout.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:38:30
Harry and Josh were the two I was worried about in the shootout.

Think we all were. Harry wasn’t in the game and Josh hasn’t controlled the ball once over the two legs


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:38:38
Think squad depth/injuries were the bridge too far tonight. No way Davison finishes that game if we have anyone other than Parsons on the bench. Gladwin essentially the only senior attacking player available outside the starting XI.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:44:51
Sorry you didn't score your pen, Harry.  It doesn't define your season.  You've been a breath of fresh air.  Please carry on.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:45:56
I’m find it very difficult to understand McKirdys reaction after his penalty miss.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:46:30
Well piss.

2nd leg is always the most important and we didn't do enough to shut down the game on Sunday when we were in control and give ourselves a solid enough lead. Queue a lackluster first half and a performance devoid of control and pace,  unlike we've been showing all season, and it was going to be a difficult tme for us. Mckirdy was barely in the game, all the balls forward being pinged straight at Davidson whose first touch is awful for a tldefender, let alone a target man. All our play was from our middle third to their middle third, none of the excellent build up attacking positivity with our central defenders on the edge of the centre circle and our midfield pushed into their middle third, with control of the game and the ball. We only started to look better when the game became more end to end, and we had some great chances that were squandered or run into blind alleys. Vale had a bit more of the rub of the green tonight, with balls juuuust falling to their players instead of ours and the referee missing the blatant handball in the opening minutes.

When you've got a team playing like vale did on the first leg (constantly niggling at players long term injuries, don't think we didn't see them clipping williams' heels/ankles all night), and a manger aggressively squaring up to players (whether he nutted him or not), and then a pitch invasion where the away side are physically attacked, it's an ugly fucking thing to have and I think any good will that town fans had to them has evaporated quicker than the vodka on your mums tasteful Wedgewood plate.

Hope they lose to the other clogger side at Wembley and couple that with a hefty FA fine and allocation reduction that leaves them in dire straits next season. I had zero feelings about port vale but their fans and then clubs antics have made me do a full 180 from object apathy to active dislike.

Iandolo was man of the match for me tonight, despite his miss. Mckirdy should have buried it and Davidson shouldn't have been on the pitch at that point so Ellis was unlucky and is a great servant to the club.

Start of the season I would have taken a top half finish and a surviving club. We've got to the play offs and lost on sudden death pens to a team that rode their luck the whole season long.

Oh well, onwards and upwards for next year then.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:46:32
Think squad depth/injuries were the bridge too far tonight. No way Davison finishes that game if we have anyone other than Parsons on the bench. Gladwin essentially the only senior attacking player available outside the starting XI.
Yes. I'm surprised Davison could even stand up at the end. JML and Parsons are not really an alternative option at the moment unfortunately


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:47:26
Sorry you didn't score your pen, Harry.  It doesn't define your season.  You've been a breath of fresh air.  Please carry on.

I suspect that was his last appearance in an STFC shirt


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jonah on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:47:53
Sad way to finish like that - but very proud of the team this year. Thought Vale dominated us tonight and we just didn't manage to overly worry them. Thought we did well to weather the early storm and keep it at 1 - 0.

Sad, but there it is. It will make the next high even more sweet!



Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:48:20
I’m find it very difficult to understand McKirdys reaction after his penalty miss.

I’ll assume disbelief


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:49:25
God Vale are scum. Manager assaulting Conroy, fans assaulting players on their pitch, players spent 2 games trying to kick the shit out of us.
We weren't good enough in the first half, but we should have had a penalty at 0-0. Refereeing has been awful all season and it's typical we are at the wrong end of such a blatant decision. Better team after half time but as per much of the season, just lacked the ability to put it in the net.  
Hope Mansfield stuff them.

I fancy going to Wembley anyway,  Mansfield ticket. Have a word with the cunts.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindon74 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:51:22
I’m find it very difficult to understand McKirdys reaction after his penalty miss.

I’m also struggling with it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:51:55
What happened?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RWB Robin on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:52:27
What a season, Town. Everyone can take credit for it. Port Vale probably deserved to win , but they should also be held responsible for the scenes at the end. It was not exactly rocket science that that was going to happen.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:52:31
players attacked, town fans bottled, coined and a flare cage thrown landing on an older man's head with blood pouring down. fuck the match, bunch of twats, hope cctv and the police sort it out


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:54:56
Looking forward to Vale at home next season.   :toughguy:


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:55:58
What happened?

He was laughing in a slightly disbelieving way. Tbh I can understand it, I wasn't far off myself. Just felt a bit too 'narrative' you know?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:57:01
He was laughing in a slightly disbelieving way. Tbh I can understand it, I wasn't far off myself. Just felt a bit too 'narrative' you know?


Probably frustrating disbelief


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:57:48
Can't argue with the result.

Shame a load of their fans turned out to be thugs. What goes around...


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:58:05
Looking forward to Vale at home next season.   :toughguy:

Are you planning to take on all of the 50 odd supporters who might make the trip?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:58:33
Really hope Mansfield batter them. Vale's 8k fans at Wembley shuffling home after spending a months wage  :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 21:59:39
Are you planning to take on all of the 50 odd supporters who might make the trip?

Meh, numbers. Or lack of them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: molepar on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:02:43
Sports players often are told to express their emotions in a way that won’t negatively affect things going forward. In particular tennis players, they often smile or laugh rather than smashing up their racquet. It may have been the same here. We did well tonight. Gutted to lose. In a pub in London had a lot of people watching only for the pens. Obviously a few wind up merchants giving it the bigun shouting “come on port vale” etc. I told them where to go. At least when we lost their were no further follow ups to their comments. Been to 22 games this season (new personal record) and a lot of new grounds with Wobbly Bob et al. Wouldn’t have expected playoffs at the start of the season, very proud of the players, management and fans to make it this far.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:05:36
Better to lose now than in the final. Hopefully Vale take  their full 9k fanbase and learn an expensive lesson  :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:06:20
Better to lose now than in the final. Hopefully Vale take  their full 9k fanbase and learn an expensive lesson  :)

Better to not lose at all.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:06:54
players attacked, town fans bottled, coined and a flare cage thrown landing on an older man's head with blood pouring down. fuck the match, bunch of twats, hope cctv and the police sort it out

As I said in a previous post today, fans should not go on the pitch. Yet I am sure there will still those on here who will defend fans’ right to do that.
It’s ridiculous- you only have to see the nonsense on Twitter and forums  to realise that there are Neanderthals who make it unsafe - the EFL need to have zero tolerance - with severe sanctions on clubs whose supporters invade the pitch.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:08:56
Season too soon for us. Play offs aint bad for a team largely put together in a week.

Autos next season. 


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:10:12
Be interesting to see who stays and how much of a rebuild is needed for next season….
I hope it's 'interesting' and not 'worrying'.

In an ideal world I would like to see Davison and Barry upgrades.

But, I suspect that we may see Wollacott, Reed and Payne gone.  Wonder whether Baudry will be persuaded to stay or will retire.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:10:31
Vale have risen out of nowhere to near the top of my most hated clubs. Their supporters are the worst. Awful


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:11:32
As I said in a previous post today, fans should not go on the pitch. Yet I am sure there will still those on here who will defend fans’ right to do that.
It’s ridiculous- you only have to see the nonsense on Twitter and forums  to realise that there are Neanderthals who make it unsafe - the EFL need to have zero tolerance - with severe sanctions on clubs whose supporters invade the pitch.

You could stop it, but you'd need a lot more stewarding/police presence or Draconian punishments for clubs (no fans to Wembley, for example - although no chance of the fa doing that with the money they'd lose!).

Tbh I think the path of least resistance is probably facilitating it but restricting to one third of the pitch.

It just shows how much of policing is by consent. If 2000 people want to come on the pitch you aren't stopping them without serious weaponry. Stewards can't usually stop one pitch invader, let alone thousands.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:12:42
Gutted, to lose the shootout in the position we were in hurts the most, scenes at the end are an absolute joke. I would usually wish the team that beat us luck in the final but not after seeing that. EFL needs to have a serious look at that.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:12:58
Season too soon for us. Play offs aint bad for a team largely put together in a week.

Autos next season. 

When was the last time we followed up a play off defeat with a better season the following year?
We have no idea who will stay and who will go.

There is no gradual build in lower league football anymore. The chances of keeping this squad together and added the missing pieces is slim.

Could be (another) total rebuild.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lemis on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:13:38
I’m find it very difficult to understand McKirdys reaction after his penalty miss.

To be fair, Mane had exactly the same reaction when he missed a penalty in the FA Cup final, so hardly the most abnormal thing.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: river monster on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:15:04
Lets win the fuckin thing next season, for a record time.

 didn't deserve to win the game tonight  in open play, but one penalty away, sickener.

Fair fucks to garner and the lads he helped assemble, bloody enjoyed it all season. were written off alot of times this season, as early as February! So many 'seasons over' posts after many games.

Not managed to see it back, but that seemed a blatant pen in the 7th minute handball, hands above his head...


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:15:10
Congratulations to both teams.  Vale were good value for their 1-0 on the bal. of play.  Our whole club did magnificently to reach the Playoffs.

Mckirdy, Davison, Iandolo - you can hold your heads high.  We wouldn't have been in the POs without you.

Gutted for all the players tonight.  They just couldn't find their "A Game" .  And for the travelling fans.  Between them, STFC had recovered the initiative from Vale.

Onwards and upwards.  


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:16:36
Just at Hilton services as wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible. Did our players get off the pitch without any issues?

I know you can’t blame players in penalties but Ward had that won for us. Mckirdy’s penalty was ridiculous why try that? And Davison everyone knew he’d ‘miss it yet he had the crucial 5th…. Iandolo was just unlucky that it got to him.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:18:06
When was the last time we followed up a play off defeat with a better season the following year?
We have no idea who will stay and who will go.

There is no gradual build in lower league football anymore. The chances of keeping this squad together and added the missing pieces is slim.

Could be (another) total rebuild.


The only hope is this set up looks good now, we built this team in an embargo, hopefully we can keep 50% of this current team and build on it without restrictions. There is definitely a feel of a team on the way up, just hopefully the recruitment is as good this summer, they did well last summer and even in January to replace the players who left. I still feel a huge sense of positivity around the club under this new ownership compared to the previous who would be looking now to profit out of the squad.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Qunk on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:18:20
I’m find it very difficult to understand McKirdys reaction after his penalty miss.

You should not attempt a logical analysis of a reaction to a highly charged emotional experience. Dealing with high emotions is different for everyone


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:18:42
You could stop it, but you'd need a lot more stewarding/police presence or Draconian punishments for clubs (no fans to Wembley, for example - although no chance of the fa doing that with the money they'd lose!).

Tbh I think the path of least resistance is probably facilitating it but restricting to one third of the pitch.

It just shows how much of policing is by consent. If 2000 people want to come on the pitch you aren't stopping them without serious weaponry. Stewards can't usually stop one pitch invader, let alone thousands.

If ‘fans’ what to act like animals then they should be treated like so. Put the fences back.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: doomster on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:19:51
You could stop it, but you'd need a lot more stewarding/police presence or Draconian punishments for clubs (no fans to Wembley, for example - although no chance of the fa doing that with the money they'd lose!).

Tbh I think the path of least resistance is probably facilitating it but restricting to one third of the pitch.

It just shows how much of policing is by consent. If 2000 people want to come on the pitch you aren't stopping them without serious weaponry. Stewards can't usually stop one pitch invader, let alone thousands.

To be fair they had a lot of police however most of them were assigned duties outside the ground to get fans out from the bycas stand.  So issues were self made as had they not switched away end would of had way more resources available for within the ground.  

Great season not the result we wanted but a fantastic season when considering where we were at hungerford.

Away end was noisy start to finish so we did all we could to carry them over the line.

Safe travels all


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:24:40
Oh I nearly forgot to mention the officials who weren't as bad as they were last game but you have to question how much protection players are allowed. If I were Garner I'd be taking photos of certain players legs and ankles after every game to send to the FA as proof the officials are missing nasty challenges.

Been fucking shit all season mind and it's not like the FA will take any away from sitting in front of a monitor in the VAR dungeon for the prem so we might just have to get used to it in leagues 1/2. :hmmm: IMHO all elite refs should have to do X lower league games a year to retain elite status. If you're good enough for Liverpool Vs man city, you're good enough for Walsall Vs barrow.

No police or steward presence stopping the home fans from flooding the pitch. Piss poor management from all involved. (no I do not expect a minimum wage steward to do anything, but there should be enough on hand to back up the police who should be there knowing the home fans flooding onto the pitch was the most likely outcome either way.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: stfcjack on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:29:29
Fucking vermin scum! A large number of their fans didn’t give a shit about their own team and was more interested in running straight for the away end, full bottles, pyro, coins you name it being launched in to the away end, saw elderly and kids being hit. Fucking scum. Even before the game I feared for our players on the pitch had it been invaded. Vale show their true colours, can not wait to play them next season.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:40:29
Never looked like scoring tonight. No excuse for missing the target in a shootout either. But…

…what a season. From nothing, to the cusp of promotion. I can’t wait for next season with a proper preseason and improved squad. Proud of the lot of them.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindon74 on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:53:28
https://twitter.com/TotalSportSwin/status/1527406083140100096?s=20&t=gYm1gmlnwY1Ki1-vWcSJcw

Bit of footage after the game. Looks grim! Dishusting behaviour from the vale fans


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 22:53:54
…what a season. From nothing, to the cusp of promotion. I can’t wait for next season with a proper preseason and improved squad. Proud of the lot of them.

100% mate.  100%.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 23:08:52
When was the last time we followed up a play off defeat with a better season the following year?
We have no idea who will stay and who will go.

There is no gradual build in lower league football anymore. The chances of keeping this squad together and added the missing pieces is slim.

Could be (another) total rebuild.


Even if they all go Chorley and whoever else involved managed to put together a more than competitive squad in a matter of days. We should have faith in recruitment to be be able to do the same if not better over a much longer period of time.

Tonight is shit but i'm excited to see what moves we make over the next 10 weeks.

We have enough pull in this league to be looking at the best of what's available for League 2.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 23:27:28
I am absolutely gutted. Fans tonight were absolutely fantastic. Bounce back next year but that’s going to take a while to process


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 23:28:38
I am absolutely gutted. Fans tonight were absolutely fantastic. Bounce back next year but that’s going to take a while to process
Sounded brilliant especially second half and extra time. Did the club proud.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, May 19, 2022, 23:43:58
Yep you guys there tonight sounded superb. Sleep it off, forgive the penalty takers and get ready. It's preseason soon.

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 00:03:39
Made it home, just seen all the news about players being attacked, got out of the ground sharpish as was obvious what would happen.

Ultimately we just weren’t good enough lack of squad depth and being 2 or 3 players short in key positions cost us. Still think the loss of Simpson was the massive one though, for all his effort Davison lack of instinct and ability to control a ball has been costly especially in these last 2 games.

Need some steel in the team next year to supplement the ball players, when you are bringing on Gladwin to solidify things you know you are short.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 00:05:01
just back . Gutted.

Vale should have been 3 up if you ignore the poor officiating (handball, offside). Grew into it but in all honesty never looked like scoring.

I was going to write about one player being the difference (in the wrong way) but now's not the time. so I deleted it.

such a good opportunity wasted.

I await the inevitable break up of the squad and see what we get next year


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 00:10:52
Quote from: theakston2k

Need some steel in the team next year to supplement the ball players, when you are bringing on Gladwin to solidify things you know you are short.

and a fucking striker that can trap a ball, and heads a 1 on 1 cross instead of trying to fucking chest it


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 00:15:30
and a fucking striker that can trap a ball, and heads a 1 on 1 cross instead of trying to fucking chest it
He’s so shit and no amount of effort will convince me otherwise. We can’t possibly even be contemplating spending money on him.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 00:16:16
I'm leaving further comment on him for a couple of days I think


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 00:48:25
The 2 minnow clubs in the final. Shame. Wembley might see a 20k final.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 01:08:53
Not long got back.

Fuck the game, mostly just disgusted by Swindon police. When players are being attacked and families are being pelted with all sorts of stuff and your immediate thought is to make sure you get good footage of the Swindon fans reacting so you can prosecute them, you're an absolute disgrace.

You cannot possibly wonder why people have no respect for you. Do your job and protect people instead of ensuring you can make enough pointless arrests to tick enough boxes to justify your jobs.

If you can't protect kids and families when the shit hits the fan, then why on earth did you join the force in the first place you fucking spineless cunts?

Rant over.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 02:16:39
He’s so shit and no amount of effort will convince me otherwise. We can’t possibly even be contemplating spending money on him.

Shit is probably going a bit ott but having him as our only out & out striker over the last 2 games has done us no favours.

The endeavour is there and his record with us suggests there is something there in front of goal but he is also useless playing 25 yards out with his back to goal - something we’ve kept asking him to do (way too often) over the two legs. Nothing sticks and the ball comes right back at us. He can’t seem to win free kicks either (which is not personally his fault) but gets constantly man handled yet the second he gives as good as he gets he gives away a foul.

Of course under different circumstances you’d hope to have more than one striker - so when Davison isn’t in the game we can switch it up.

I have no idea if Williams could have continued but I’d have considered taking Davison off and putting Gladwin up top. No mobility at all but better ability to get hold of the ball. Would have also bought on AK for Barry and put him at LB and move Iandolo further forward just to see if we could get any joy with him in an attacking position.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 02:18:47
The 2 minnow clubs in the final. Shame. Wembley might see a 20k final.

You’re literally the only one gives a fuck about this.
Who cares who takes what to Wembley.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:02:25
He’s so shit and no amount of effort will convince me otherwise. We can’t possibly even be contemplating spending money on him.

Sorry but that ball that Conroy slid in for him 2nd half of extra time, how did he not get a shot away or at least get his body in the way to get fouled? We could do so much better than him


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lemis on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:05:43
Still no statement as of yet from Vale condemning the behaviour of the fans who attacked our players or the ones that threw things at the away end. Embarrassing


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:13:53
Sorry but that ball that Conroy slid in for him 2nd half of extra time, how did he not get a shot away or at least get his body in the way to get fouled? We could do so much better than him

Didn't do a thing right over the two legs being honest.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: doomster on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:21:05
So annoyed by that offside.  On occasion you can forgive a linesman when the play is fast and they cannot keep up.  It was so obviously offside yet the official misses what is right in front of him.  Then you realise the guy has fuck all experience and lives just up the road in Sutton-in-Ashfield.  The football league really should be treating a game of this importance with some more experienced officials it’s not the time to be picking someone the nod who’s done less than ten games.

https://uk.soccerway.com/referees/hristo-karaivanov/468454/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6534059/Linesman-wore-dress-shoes-not-face-action-governing-bodies.html

One of those 7 he didn’t even remember his bloody boots.  The football league is just such a tinpot setup





Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:34:14
Not the right time to be over critical of some of the performances last night.
Penalty shoot out in the bag, we blew it Swindon style.

Absolutely gutted and wiped out.

Fans magnificent and give me the hope to carry on.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:48:21
I take my comments on pitch invasions back.

it seems a new mentality has surfaced. see Everton and of course Vale last night.

'we' can't behave, we can't have them

but how to you (police) stop them?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:49:28
@doomster, there is a suggestion Sky showed Egbo's leg playing him on. Can't say I see it in that pic, but there you go


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:55:39
Fine margins. Maybe a game too far for a small squad.
Missing the chance to go 3 up in the first leg was key.
Should have seen out the pens.

Gutted but proud, it's been an enjoyable season particularly on the travels.
It's never easy to push on after losing out in the play offs.
Should be an interesting summer.

Managed to dodge the incoming bottles. Some were not so lucky.
Vale fans appear to be a particularly classless bunch, to put it mildly.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:57:17
Ok I know I said see you next season but that wasn’t because I wouldn’t post anything, sorry to disappoint.

So, last nights game. Even if the general consensus is that we were somewhere between crap and not good enough there needs to be some chilled out perspective.

In the cold light of the day after the night before my thoughts are i’m really disappointed, no doubt about that. Which in of itself is testament to how well the players and the playing management have done and what they have achieved. Clearly last night was a bridge to far and we stumbled a few yards from the finishing line allowing a team who were physically stronger to pip us at the post.

Good luck to the Stags, hope you smash them at Wembley.

It seems harsh to criticise any individual player for what they did or didn’t do during the game as the previous 46 during the season would have shown us their strengths and weakness’s. It was obvious they again allowed themselves to be bullied by a physically stronger team, not the first time this season is it? So a technically superior and skilful team has been roughed up and beaten. Not the first time and won’t be the last. They did their best last night, wasn’t good enough, simples.

Looking back over this BLOODY AMAZING season we ALL should be so proud of the club both on and off the pitch and proud of ourselves as fans. Realistically if the season was a marathon race we started it five miles behind everyone else, nearly caught them up but ultimately as said fell short.

The whole club will have learnt an immense amount from Aberdeen down to the kit man. As someone said, now is the time to show the fans your intent Clem et al. We’ve backed them to the hilt home and away so carry on the upward trajectory we clearly have and the future is bright and red & white.

Come the KO to the new season we will have put this behind us as the team, well those who stay must and will do I’m sure.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 06:59:33
@doomster, there is a suggestion Sky showed Egbo's leg playing him on. Can't say I see it in that pic, but there you go

And you’d expect a div 2 Lino to spot that? It was onside on that VAR inspired bit of photography the game didn’t have VAR did it. If it had we’d have had a penalty just before completely altering the course of the game.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:00:22
Fucking vermin scum! A large number of their fans didn’t give a shit about their own team and was more interested in running straight for the away end, full bottles, pyro, coins you name it being launched in to the away end, saw elderly and kids being hit. Fucking scum. Even before the game I feared for our players on the pitch had it been invaded. Vale show their true colours, can not wait to play them next season.
Port Vile


Title: Re: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:03:40
I take my comments on pitch invasions back.

it seems a new mentality has surfaced. see Everton and of course Vale last night.

'we' can't behave, we can't have them

but how to you (police) stop them?
The way it's going I can see arguments emerging for fencing going back up and knocking safe standing on the head.

I see Accy's chairman has been tweeting on the matter.

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:04:47
Garner's first job today persuade Baudry to carry on for another year. The guy has been class


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:05:23
I think the club next season, should Piss Pile not go up, boycott any offer of away tickets to their ground and hit them in the pocket. Wether they do that for the home fixture is another thing but it is food for thought.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:06:57
@doomster, there is a suggestion Sky showed Egbo's leg playing him on. Can't say I see it in that pic, but there you go

It looked onside in the replay on Sky, either way it was very marginal and certainly not how Doomster has described it.

Given where we were a week before the season it is hell of an achievement to get so close. Doesn’t make it easier to swallow though.  The first rule of penalty taking hit the fucking target!!!

Can’t wait for straws failing to be clutched about the attendance at the final 🙄


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:22:30
Just spotted the Wembley Arch from the train.
Now receding into the distance.
So near & yet so far.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:23:14
Looking forward to the inevitable jail time and lifetime bans. Scum. Looking forward to their visit next season.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:24:00
Waiting for a statement from Swindon re last night.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:26:51
On a different note hope Mansfield absolutely batter them at Wembley


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:28:01
On a different note hope Mansfield absolutely batter them at Wembley

Indeed.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:29:12
Looking forward to the inevitable jail time and lifetime bans. Scum. Looking forward to their visit next season.

What you planning?


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:29:16
A striker and a midfield enforcer* away from automatics.

Cost us in the semi final too.

was hoping to stay in the league at the start of the season, that's the perspective

a dismantled squad and the unknown of whether the chance will come again soon is the reality of the summer

*assuming garner used him. Gladwin did ok to be going even though it's not his strength


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:31:36
What you planning?

To voice my anger  :)


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:32:55
I hope the extra fans who have come back this season continue to support the club. It's been fantastic to see this season.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:38:49
To voice my anger  :)

I think we should shake our heads while muttering something under our breath in the most British of ways.

On a serious note there is one very easy way to stop the nasty scenes we’ve seen this week on a couple of occasions. Any pitch invasion should result in one game behind closed doors and/or points deduction. Policing and stewarding cannot stop it happening, you would literally need 1000’s of them


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:39:09
Waiting for a statement from Swindon re last night.

We haven't even acknowledged we lost on the OS just yet, last story is the team news!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:55:39
I take my comments on pitch invasions back.

it seems a new mentality has surfaced. see Everton and of course Vale last night.

'we' can't behave, we can't have them

but how to you (police) stop them?

The Everton one went completely against what I said yesterday about how pitch invasions are harmless if the losing team aren’t rivals and had nothing to play for.

The lack of brain power from an Everton fan to go after the Palace (who had nothing to play for & aren’t rivals) Manager (who hasn’t played for any of Everton's rivals) is one thing. It’s another level when that Palace Manager is Patrick Vieira, he’s isn’t gonna think twice about kicking you’re head in. One of the hardest players the Premier League has ever had.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:00:58
A striker and a midfield enforcer* away from automatics.

Cost us in the semi final too.

was hoping to stay in the league at the start of the season, that's the perspective

a dismantled squad and the unknown of whether the chance will come again soon is the reality of the summer

*assuming garner used him. Gladwin did ok to be going even though it's not his strength
You do have to wonder whether we are "tough enough" I'm afraid. Over the 2 games,Vile committed 32 fouls,twice as many as us but we had more bookings. Maybe not significant but the majority of our bookings seem to be for petulance or dissent. Having said that I wouldn't want us to ditch our strategy completely


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:14:19
I see its made the sports headlines on the BBC website. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61517517


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:17:19
This is a tough one and for once I haven't read back, and possibly won't!!

Arrived in good time to Vale Park, via Stafford Services where there was a good Swindon contingent stocking up on food and drink. The away end was very vocal and the stand we were in had great acoustics, reminded me of Bristol City away when we got relegated.

I thought we were slow out of the traps and Vale were fired up. They missed an open goal, we should have had a penalty for handball (I think, was at the opposite end) and then they scored. We could barely string 2 passes together and they also hit the post. We managed to stagger off the ropes and finally got a toe hold into the game. Second half was quite even but I don't recall too many clear cut chances. I felt in Extra time that we had the upper hand and I think Garner going to 3 at the back was sensible in order to get more possession and attempt to completely knacker out an already dead on their feet Vale side. Unfortunately we just couldn't create anything. In fact, I can't recall their keeper actually having to make a save until the penalties, Ward, much the busier and a key save right at the end.

Obviously pens is a lottery but at 3-1 it's a huge chance but typical that Mckirdy missed the bloody target completely. at least Davison had his saved but you felt it was only a matter of time before we lost and I was gutted for it to be Ellis, who has been so good all season, that was the one to do it. Then the inevitable pitch invasion whereby the Vale fans seemed desperate to rub it in rather than celebrate with their players. There were a few bottles thrown back and forth but thankfully the ugly scenes didn't continue outside where the Vale fans walking back to our cars seemed much more affable. I thought the atmosphere was good last night, especially in the away end.

In the end, I wasn't actually gutted. It's cliched and irritates some people but look back to where we were 2 weeks before the season started, a mess. To be able to turn things around so spectacularly on and off the field was incredible. To be a penalty kick away from the play off final.

I've heard we may be able to keep much of the squad together so if we can add good squad depth, next season is going to be a lot of fun!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:23:52
On a different note hope Mansfield absolutely batter them at Wembley

I'd say let PV get promoted.
Can't bear the thought of visiting Burslem again any time soon.
With a bit of luck we can give them a wave on the way up when they are heading back in the other direction.
In football what goes around comes around always happens. Eventually.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:26:27
if we keep the majority of the squad together that's a colossal boost to all

obviously you have to be careful with recruitment (Danny Wilson, prutton) but imagine actually not having to start from scratch.

agree with your assessment Bob..


Title: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:27:32
ugh, league 2 is a depressing sight next year. Just geographically

please let Wimbledon away be on a Saturday..


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:30:28
This is a tough one and for once I haven't read back, and possibly won't!!

Arrived in good time to Vale Park, via Stafford Services where there was a good Swindon contingent stocking up on food and drink. The away end was very vocal and the stand we were in had great acoustics, reminded me of Bristol City away when we got relegated.

I thought we were slow out of the traps and Vale were fired up. They missed an open goal, we should have had a penalty for handball (I think, was at the opposite end) and then they scored. We could barely string 2 passes together and they also hit the post. We managed to stagger off the ropes and finally got a toe hold into the game. Second half was quite even but I don't recall too many clear cut chances. I felt in Extra time that we had the upper hand and I think Garner going to 3 at the back was sensible in order to get more possession and attempt to completely knacker out an already dead on their feet Vale side. Unfortunately we just couldn't create anything. In fact, I can't recall their keeper actually having to make a save until the penalties, Ward, much the busier and a key save right at the end.

Obviously pens is a lottery but at 3-1 it's a huge chance but typical that Mckirdy missed the bloody target completely. at least Davison had his saved but you felt it was only a matter of time before we lost and I was gutted for it to be Ellis, who has been so good all season, that was the one to do it. Then the inevitable pitch invasion whereby the Vale fans seemed desperate to rub it in rather than celebrate with their players. There were a few bottles thrown back and forth but thankfully the ugly scenes didn't continue outside where the Vale fans walking back to our cars seemed much more affable. I thought the atmosphere was good last night, especially in the away end.

In the end, I wasn't actually gutted. It's cliched and irritates some people but look back to where we were 2 weeks before the season started, a mess. To be able to turn things around so spectacularly on and off the field was incredible. To be a penalty kick away from the play off final.

I've heard we may be able to keep much of the squad together so if we can add good squad depth, next season is going to be a lot of fun!
It doesn't irritate me. It's a fact.Good post Bob


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:47:33
Ergh...

Havent read back and probably wont for a bit...

Didnt play well over both legs but got the result in the first.

Started so slowly, defo Pen for us but fuck me they missed some chances, so no real complaints at the goal they did score Offside or not.
Plenty of huff and puff in the second but could create anything.
McKirdy struggled to get into the game, Davison?....FFS...awful for me, trying to take the ball on the chest from a whipped in cross was the icing on the cake...get your swede on it fella, the cherry was the Pen.

I was at Weymouth when we didnt have a side so this has turned out to be a great season.

Poor home form and January departures fucked us.

Garners free hit has gone and we start next season properly.

End......


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:04:37
Nope I am calm, whatever will be will be.

We're not going to Wemb-er-lee. :(


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:05:48
Most undeserving team ever to get to Wembley. And yes I am bitter. Vile cunts fans and players alike.
And don't forget the cunt of a manager too, bitter? maybe, deserved? 100% fuck em.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: AMayesIng on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:19:35
Garner's first job today persuade Baudry to carry on for another year. The guy has been class

I think Baudry is lining up a career in Financial Advice to ex players. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6917154762073202688/
I'd love him to stay too, but good luck to him in whatever he decides.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: AMayesIng on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:20:33
This is a tough one and for once I haven't read back, and possibly won't!!

Arrived in good time to Vale Park, via Stafford Services where there was a good Swindon contingent stocking up on food and drink. The away end was very vocal and the stand we were in had great acoustics, reminded me of Bristol City away when we got relegated.

I thought we were slow out of the traps and Vale were fired up. They missed an open goal, we should have had a penalty for handball (I think, was at the opposite end) and then they scored. We could barely string 2 passes together and they also hit the post. We managed to stagger off the ropes and finally got a toe hold into the game. Second half was quite even but I don't recall too many clear cut chances. I felt in Extra time that we had the upper hand and I think Garner going to 3 at the back was sensible in order to get more possession and attempt to completely knacker out an already dead on their feet Vale side. Unfortunately we just couldn't create anything. In fact, I can't recall their keeper actually having to make a save until the penalties, Ward, much the busier and a key save right at the end.

Obviously pens is a lottery but at 3-1 it's a huge chance but typical that Mckirdy missed the bloody target completely. at least Davison had his saved but you felt it was only a matter of time before we lost and I was gutted for it to be Ellis, who has been so good all season, that was the one to do it. Then the inevitable pitch invasion whereby the Vale fans seemed desperate to rub it in rather than celebrate with their players. There were a few bottles thrown back and forth but thankfully the ugly scenes didn't continue outside where the Vale fans walking back to our cars seemed much more affable. I thought the atmosphere was good last night, especially in the away end.

In the end, I wasn't actually gutted. It's cliched and irritates some people but look back to where we were 2 weeks before the season started, a mess. To be able to turn things around so spectacularly on and off the field was incredible. To be a penalty kick away from the play off final.

I've heard we may be able to keep much of the squad together so if we can add good squad depth, next season is going to be a lot of fun!

100% this.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:22:34
And don't forget the cunt of a manager too, bitter? maybe, deserved? 100% fuck em.
Yes,what an example that idiot gave to his moronic fans


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFCBird on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:23:33
Yes,what an example that idiot gave to his moronic fans

Yes Adje what an absolute mornonic cunt.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:27:31
And don't forget the cunt of a manager too, bitter? maybe, deserved? 100% fuck em.
They should get done over by Mansfield at Wembley as Mansfield are much better than them at the direct stuff.

Let’s hope Clarke has a tough line ban for Wembley and a fair few of their fans get banning orders over this coming week. This last couple of weeks have been enlightening in terms of what a backward set of fans Vale have with the icing on the cake blaming our players for last nights trouble due to a couple of posts on social media. Hopefully all this will black list Vale somewhat and make it harder to sign played. Who’d want to play for a club where mobs have been seen to attack fellow professionals?! Of course it’s not all but Vale do seem to have an above average number and seems like their owner is in denial about it.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Lemis on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:28:28
And don't forget the cunt of a manager too, bitter? maybe, deserved? 100% fuck em.

It's certainly not just bitterness. Never has my opinion of a club deteriorated in such rapid fashion as it did last night. I certainly didn't feel this way towards Brentford, Preston or Millwall when they beat us in the playoffs.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:36:46
T Hopefully all this will black list Vale somewhat and make it harder to sign played. Who’d want to play for a club where mobs have been seen to attack fellow professionals?!

I doubt it'll have much bearing TBH..

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Of course it’s not all but Vale do seem to have an above average number and seems like their owner is in denial about it.

The owner will do whatever they can to protect the club. I guess holding their hands up and taking responsibility would be the right thing to do, but the FA and police need to crack on with this.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:37:57
Not long got back.

Fuck the game, mostly just disgusted by Swindon police. When players are being attacked and families are being pelted with all sorts of stuff and your immediate thought is to make sure you get good footage of the Swindon fans reacting so you can prosecute them, you're an absolute disgrace.

You cannot possibly wonder why people have no respect for you. Do your job and protect people instead of ensuring you can make enough pointless arrests to tick enough boxes to justify your jobs.

If you can't protect kids and families when the shit hits the fan, then why on earth did you join the force in the first place you fucking spineless cunts?

Rant over.

When was the last time you policed a pitch invasion?

The job the Wilts Police had to do last night was impossible. Nowhere near enough officers to make even a slight difference.

Enough police to stop invasions like last night will cost the club a fortune. They can't afford it so won't pay for it. The police won't do it for free because, if they do, moany cunts will complain about the increase in the police precept on their council tax.

200 officers in the ground might have made a difference but where do you get them from? Overtime or take them away from other duties and let the scum not at the football run free?


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:38:24
or Millwall when they beat us in the playoffs.

Actually I do for them. Probably the two hundred or so fans who legged it around to goad the departing away coaches, some trying to get on board.

If you didn't see this side, you may have a different view.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:40:52
They should get done over by Mansfield at Wembley as Mansfield are much better than them at the direct stuff.

Let’s hope Clarke has a tough line ban for Wembley and a fair few of their fans get banning orders over this coming week. This last couple of weeks have been enlightening in terms of what a backward set of fans Vale have with the icing on the cake blaming our players for last nights trouble due to a couple of posts on social media. Hopefully all this will black list Vale somewhat and make it harder to sign played. Who’d want to play for a club where mobs have been seen to attack fellow professionals?! Of course it’s not all but Vale do seem to have an above average number and seems like their owner is in denial about it.

It was shite last night, but despite all this pearl clutching could we honestly say with hands on heart that same would definitely not happened at our place if shoe was on other foot.

For whatever reason football seems to be rapidly heading back to the early 80's in terms of dickheads causing trouble, which seems to be infecting most clubs.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:42:20
To be fair to him Clarke has come out on all his interviews and apologised for his actions, which can happen in the heat of the moment. Not that I am in any way defending his actions, which he has been punished for, but the guy has been through personal hell this year (I'm not posting on here what has happened, sorry) and I think should be cut some slack a little.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:42:31
When was the last time you policed a pitch invasion?

The job the Wilts Police had to do last night was impossible. Nowhere near enough officers to make even a slight difference.

Enough police to stop invasions like last night will cost the club a fortune. They can't afford it so won't pay for it. The police won't do it for free because, if they do, moany cunts will complain about the increase in the police precept on their council tax.

200 officers in the ground might have made a difference but where do you get them from? Overtime or take them away from other duties and let the scum not at the football run free?
Allowing the switch of ends caused a lot of the issues last night. The police before the game said it was causing massive issues so why the fuck did they let it happen. There was no planning for it or anything, at least when away fans are in the normal stand there are procedures in place. This is all on Vale, there fans AND the Police on this occasion!


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:42:51
Yes,what an example that idiot gave to his moronic fans
Yes Adje what an absolute mornonic cunt.
Absolutely, I blame him for stirring up the shit even more, he should be banned for a fucking season for inciting violence.

PS welcome back Lucy :)


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:43:35
To be fair to him Clarke has come out on all his interviews and apologised for his actions, which can happen in the heat of the moment. Not that I am in any way defending his actions, which he has been punished for, but the guy has been through personal hell this year (I'm not posting on here what has happened, sorry) and I think should be cut some slack a little.
Of course he’s going to apologise, he’s just trying to work his way into the dugouts for a Wembley game!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:43:49
It was shite last night, but despite all this pearl clutching could we honestly say with hands on heart that same would definitely not happened at our place if shoe was on other foot.

You only have to look at the Sheffield United semi to see our dickhead element goading the oppo fans.
I don't like it, classless, but its expected.

Kicking off with players is something else. I don't recall it being an issue before now.

Would our fans have done the same. I bloody hope not but can't be 100% sure.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:45:08
They should get done over by Mansfield at Wembley as Mansfield are much better than them at the direct stuff.

Let’s hope Clarke has a tough line ban for Wembley and a fair few of their fans get banning orders over this coming week. This last couple of weeks have been enlightening in terms of what a backward set of fans Vale have with the icing on the cake blaming our players for last nights trouble due to a couple of posts on social media. Hopefully all this will black list Vale somewhat and make it harder to sign played. Who’d want to play for a club where mobs have been seen to attack fellow professionals?! Of course it’s not all but Vale do seem to have an above average number and seems like their owner is in denial about it.
I am sure DC will get a touchline ban, he should get a stadium ban too, as for the so called fans, I hope the club ban all of the offenders, no place in football for that shit, ever.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:47:51
but the guy has been through personal hell this year (I'm not posting on here what has happened, sorry) and I think should be cut some slack a little.

That's extremely sad, and surely everyone has every sympathy. But that's irrelevant.

He simply lost his cool and was punished. End of. No problem. Should be watching from the stands on the 28th, that's fair and proportionate.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:48:01
Of course he’s going to apologise, he’s just trying to work his way into the dugouts for a Wembley game!
This.


Title: Re: Port Vale v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:48:29
I am sure DC will get a touchline ban, he should get a stadium ban too, as for the so called fans, I hope the club ban all of the offenders, no place in football for that shit, ever.
Yeah a stadium ban would seem most appropriate


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:52:37
The pitch invasion discussion is an interesting one and I think it's nigh on impossible to stop fans running onto the pitch especially in big games. The challenge now appears to be how you can protect player welfare as we've seen problems in all the play-off games now. Personally I think you have to look at punishing both the individuals and the clubs. There are enough cameras at grounds now that if anyone is caught assaulting a player or players, that's a lifetime ban from the ground and the club has to play a game (or more depending on the severity) behind closed doors.

Obviously in some cases it's difficult to determine which club the offender supports but you'd imagine even the most braindead of fans wouldn't attack one of their own players to get a rival to have to play a game behind closed doors!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:56:54
even the most braindead of fans wouldn't attack one of their own players to get a rival to have to play a game behind closed doors!

I admire your optimism :)

Nah, you are right. Punishments must be more severe.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:00:52
The pitch invasion discussion is an interesting one and I think it's nigh on impossible to stop fans running onto the pitch especially in big games.

Not advocating it in the slightest, but there is one easy solution which they introduced in the 70's and 80's and I can see being pushed for again if this keeps happening.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:01:44
Not advocating it in the slightest, but there is one easy solution which they introduced in the 70's and 80's and I can see being pushed for again if this keeps happening.

Absolutely and definitely not.

There's a reason they came down and that should never be forgotten


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:02:14
When was the last time you policed a pitch invasion?

The job the Wilts Police had to do last night was impossible. Nowhere near enough officers to make even a slight difference.

Enough police to stop invasions like last night will cost the club a fortune. They can't afford it so won't pay for it. The police won't do it for free because, if they do, moany cunts will complain about the increase in the police precept on their council tax.

200 officers in the ground might have made a difference but where do you get them from? Overtime or take them away from other duties and let the scum not at the football run free?

if the police line was moved back 10+ meters then that would have prevented/limited the sheer amount of missiles thrown on to us fans. a couple of police dogs behind the line- easy.

the bloke that threw the metal flare cage into the crowd hitting someone on the head happened right in front of a police officer- she spoke to him and then he wondered off.

you cant just say its impossible so let it happen. find a solution. if your going to let the fans go on the pitch- prioritise the players and surround them quickly- and protect the away fans. they had police and stewards on every side of the stadium watching.  

the police side of things from the stand to the car park was brilliant- all segregated and left with no problems.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:04:32
Absolutely and definitely not.

There's a reason they came down and that should never be forgotten

Precisely, but again only playing devils advocate but a fundamental part of the problem would not exist with no standing.

Fuck knows what will happen but fans are making it fucking easy for the powers to be to advocate treating them like cattle again!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:05:22
Absolutely and definitely not.

There's a reason they came down and that should never be forgotten
Technology moves on, if they can make them automatically collapsible in the even of an emergency I wouldn’t be surprised, or some sort of netting system.

Safe standing is going to fall by the wayside now as well.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:11:44
if the police line was moved back 10+ meters then that would have prevented/limited the sheer amount of missiles thrown on to us fans. a couple of police dogs behind the line- easy.

the bloke that threw the metal flare cage into the crowd hitting someone on the head happened right in front of a police officer- she spoke to him and then he wondered off.

you cant just say its impossible so let it happen. find a solution. if your going to let the fans go on the pitch- prioritise the players and surround them quickly- and protect the away fans. they had police and stewards on every side of the stadium watching. 

the police side of things from the stand to the car park was brilliant- all segregated and left with no problems.


An alternative view is that football fans could just act like grown up human beings, I see some of our fans are now playing bobby big bollocks on social media suggesting revenge next time Vale come to town.....


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:19:50

An alternative view is that football fans could just act like grown up human beings, I see some of our fans are now playing bobby big bollocks on social media suggesting revenge next time Vale come to town.....

Maybe 4D has arranged something after all.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:22:44
Not me. Too old, and I'm a pacifist  :)


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:23:33

An alternative view is that football fans could just act like grown up human beings, I see some of our fans are now playing bobby big bollocks on social media suggesting revenge next time Vale come to town.....

yes lets not police anything and just hope people behave. its an alternative view which offers no solution or prevention.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:24:45
Put a moat around the pitch


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:28:00
Also worth mentioning that pretty much all clubs in Italy for example have Perspex screens or fences, similarly in Germany so if this carries on I don’t see an event that happened over 3 decades ago stopping their introduction. I’d say supporters are treading a very thin line at the moment.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:28:48
Some good news from last night....

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/action-taken-port-vale-police-7105542


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:37:00
Some good news from last night....

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/action-taken-port-vale-police-7105542

In theory...I would doubt that they will get anyone.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: stfc11 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:39:26
Haven't read back yet so sorry if I'm repeating but it was so easy to protect the players last night! They're in two areas of the pitch! Plan in advance for it! A group of stewards from the tunnel to the centre circle and a group from behind the goal to protect the penalty taker!!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:40:46
When was the last time you policed a pitch invasion?

The job the Wilts Police had to do last night was impossible. Nowhere near enough officers to make even a slight difference.

Enough police to stop invasions like last night will cost the club a fortune. They can't afford it so won't pay for it. The police won't do it for free because, if they do, moany cunts will complain about the increase in the police precept on their council tax.

200 officers in the ground might have made a difference but where do you get them from? Overtime or take them away from other duties and let the scum not at the football run free?

What an absolute cop out. Protecting women and kids is the absolute most basic fundamental thing you'd expect in that situation and they stand there filming Swindon fans with their thumbs up their asses.

Fuck off.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:42:12
Did Swindon fans retaliate?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:44:33
if the police line was moved back 10+ meters then that would have prevented/limited the sheer amount of missiles thrown on to us fans. a couple of police dogs behind the line- easy.

the bloke that threw the metal flare cage into the crowd hitting someone on the head happened right in front of a police officer- she spoke to him and then he wondered off.

you cant just say its impossible so let it happen. find a solution. if your going to let the fans go on the pitch- prioritise the players and surround them quickly- and protect the away fans. they had police and stewards on every side of the stadium watching.  

the police side of things from the stand to the car park was brilliant- all segregated and left with no problems.

Exactly this. Walsall police had the right idea of segregating it off, although our invasion being a completely different tone it didn't matter as much anyway but still.

Bootlicking dross like he's spewing doesn't help our police do better and be held accountable. They were nothing short of a disgrace.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:45:52
Just read through all the posts in the cold light of day and regarding the playing side it was all said very succinctly and add that personally being disappointed in the performance and result probably does not cover my feelings which will fade with time as they always do.

Regarding next season, I have bought my ST and just trust that our player outgoings/incomings and the style of play will make the Town an even better outfit than this one has been and can maintain the feel-good factor required.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:46:55
Did Swindon fans retaliate?

Few things thrown back, but nothing major.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:47:59
Did Swindon fans retaliate?

Not that I saw. Some bottles were thrown back and forwards but on the whole I think we were very restrained. A very small handful of people I think attempted to break seats to throw but I don't think that went anywhere.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:48:05

An alternative view is that football fans could just act like grown up human beings, I see some of our fans are now playing bobby big bollocks on social media suggesting revenge next time Vale come to town.....

"An alternative view is people just shouldn't commit crimes and then we can hold the police even less accountable"

Brilliant.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:00:38
If you look at the Sky footage you can see stewards escorting the ref off the pitch but nothing for our players in the centre circle.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:01:11
What an absolute cop out. Protecting women and kids is the absolute most basic fundamental thing you'd expect in that situation and they stand there filming Swindon fans with their thumbs up their asses.

Fuck off.

Or?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:03:37
Or?

Your lot don't usually have any issues with wading in on students or women having a vigil for a woman murdered by a FUCKING COPPER. Cowards and bullies.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:14:18
What an absolute cop out. Protecting women and kids is the absolute most basic fundamental thing you'd expect in that situation and they stand there filming Swindon fans with their thumbs up their asses.

Fuck off.


Worrying that you have to explain this to a grown man. Not the sharpest tool in the box is fuzzy


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:18:08
Here we go, another load of posts from keyboard warriors who have never done the job or wouldn't even entertain the thought of trying.

Yes, I am an ex cop- 26+ years and proud of it. Got the scars and hospital record to prove it.

Everyone has an opinion on what the police do wrong and, you know what, sometimes they're right BUT the internet is absolutely swamped with shit from folk responding to things they see with less than half the story. There are far mor cops out there doing the right thing than the opposite but fuck it- they're the easy target.

I could go on but, to be honest, I am getting sick and tired of all the shit aimed at my former colleagues so bollocks to it all.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:23:50
It would appear there are two sides to this story as always. It is sad that there has obviously over a long period of time developed a disconnect between the public body funded by the public to protect it in a way that works for both parties.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:24:09
Play nicely people.
We’ve all had a tough night Supporting our beloved football club.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:27:40
Here we go, another load of posts from keyboard warriors who have never done the job or wouldn't even entertain the thought of trying.

Yes, I am an ex cop- 26+ years and proud of it. Got the scars and hospital record to prove it.

Everyone has an opinion on what the police do wrong and, you know what, sometimes they're right BUT the internet is absolutely swamped with shit from folk responding to things they see with less than half the story. There are far mor cops out there doing the right thing than the opposite but fuck it- they're the easy target.

I could go on but, to be honest, I am getting sick and tired of all the shit aimed at my former colleagues so bollocks to it all.

Sound like a pussy Geeza


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:28:00
Here we go, another load of posts from keyboard warriors who have never done the job or wouldn't even entertain the thought of trying.

Yes, I am an ex cop- 26+ years and proud of it. Got the scars and hospital record to prove it.

Everyone has an opinion on what the police do wrong and, you know what, sometimes they're right BUT the internet is absolutely swamped with shit from folk responding to things they see with less than half the story. There are far mor cops out there doing the right thing than the opposite but fuck it- they're the easy target.

I could go on but, to be honest, I am getting sick and tired of all the shit aimed at my former colleagues so bollocks to it all.
The police said before the game this was going to happen, I even posted on here before the fans about them saying that so why not try and do something about it. Shrugging shoulders and just letting it happen is indefensible and ultimately they allowed the switch of away ends which compounded the problem. Sometimes the police fully deserve criticism and this one of those occasions!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:31:44
Here we go, another load of posts from keyboard warriors who have never done the job or wouldn't even entertain the thought of trying.

Yes, I am an ex cop- 26+ years and proud of it. Got the scars and hospital record to prove it.

Everyone has an opinion on what the police do wrong and, you know what, sometimes they're right BUT the internet is absolutely swamped with shit from folk responding to things they see with less than half the story. There are far mor cops out there doing the right thing than the opposite but fuck it- they're the easy target.

I could go on but, to be honest, I am getting sick and tired of all the shit aimed at my former colleagues so bollocks to it all.


Fuck tha pooliceeee

Nonces roaming free and they'll target a few lads at football


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ides of March on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:32:19
Tough night that (obviously). Probably one of our poorest showings of the season, with Barry and McKirdy both struggling to get in the game. Thought the defence was excellent, but we did not create anywhere near the amount of chances we’ve been creating all season.

Gutting way to lose, but for once, there’s an overwhelming feeling of this being the start of a special journey, rather than the end of a short-term buzz. The mechanisms are there now, and with a few more additions (namely a striker, winger and wing-back) we can compete for top 3 more consistently than we have this season.

Gutted? Yes. Excited for the future? Absolutely. Will this post look silly when we’re 15th by March next season? Probably.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:32:55
No criticism of the police from me, they have a tough job. I will say this though, I remember when police would use truncheons and a chomping dog, don't ever see that these days.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:34:10
Nonces roaming free…. Police force fulla wronguns abusing women anyway and keeping it hush…. no wonder fuzzy doesn’t think protecting kids and women should be first point of call.



Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:35:25
 :blink:


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:35:55
https://twitter.com/sunsport/status/1527447723951153156?s=21&t=Sob1oy7aWiZ3lsyfGVcOpw

The scum inaccurately reporting surprise surprise


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:38:40
The police said before the game this was going to happen, I even posted on here before the fans about them saying that so why not try and do something about it. Shrugging shoulders and just letting it happen is indefensible and ultimately they allowed the switch of away ends which compounded the problem. Sometimes the police fully deserve criticism and this one of those occasions!

They was laughing at it all mate. Smoke bomb hit someone in face and they shrugged, saw the guy that lobbed and did fuck all about it. They didn’t give a fuck.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:40:25
mentioning nonces in direct relation to policing football is a bit weird. that's no correlation. Knowing someone who worked in that area of policing, they are so under resourced the amount of time available on each case is depressing.

I'm not actually sure what the police can do, yet something more needs to be done. it happened at so many grounds this year where what should be  celebration turned into something else.

that pitch needed a line to clear then back though. and a presence on players. things could have been very ugly indeed


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:40:39
Here we go, another load of posts from keyboard warriors who have never done the job or wouldn't even entertain the thought of trying.

Yes, I am an ex cop- 26+ years and proud of it. Got the scars and hospital record to prove it.

Everyone has an opinion on what the police do wrong and, you know what, sometimes they're right BUT the internet is absolutely swamped with shit from folk responding to things they see with less than half the story. There are far mor cops out there doing the right thing than the opposite but fuck it- they're the easy target.

I could go on but, to be honest, I am getting sick and tired of all the shit aimed at my former colleagues so bollocks to it all.

Well that explains it. Had to be an ex copper to defend that.

The George Floyd incident proved people will be defend the police no matter what they do, even cold blooded murder. Seeing as this is a drop in the ocean compared to that I'm not entirely sure why I'm surprised.

Do you honestly feel that you need to have worked in the force to understand that filming victims reactions is not the right call in that situation? That's filled our quota of 85% bollocks for a good year.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:43:58
mentioning nonces in direct relation to policing football is a bit weird. that's no correlation. Knowing someone who worked in that area of policing, they are so under resourced the amount of time available on each case is depressing.

I'm not actually sure what the police can do, yet something more needs to be done. it happened at so many grounds this year where what should be  celebration turned into something else.

that pitch needed a line to clear then back though. and a presence on players. things could have been very ugly indeed


Felt I had to mention after one disagreed with the fact that women and kids shouldn’t be first priority to protect in a stadium fulla coked up blokes.



Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:52:46
Fuck me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:03:20
Haven't read back yet so sorry if I'm repeating but it was so easy to protect the players last night! They're in two areas of the pitch! Plan in advance for it! A group of stewards from the tunnel to the centre circle and a group from behind the goal to protect the penalty taker!!

Those ideas look like a great starting point.  Whether we have experience of policing football or not.

The downsides of totally preventing mass pitch invasions, whether through high fences or massive police presence, is for now unacceptable.  Money talks.

However, if you're pocketing £1/4 m. laying on an event, it should be a MINIMUM quid pro quo, that the officials, players and coaches putting on the show are secure from physical assault by the punters.  I would attribute that duty to PV last night.  The Police (and the EFL) also have input into the arrangements, even against the wishes of PV, so they share that duty too.

That duty was not fulfilled.  Before long, we'll be having an independent inquiry if the protagonists do not sort out their own shit.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: HeatonRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:04:29
Feel a bit emotional this morning. Trying to suppress anger & hate for the scum that thinks its ok to take a free hit at players, for PV in the ticket shenanigans, the vitriolic build-up. Feels like a Gillingham style rivalry just been created.
Couldnt get a ticket, but it was great to hear Town fans loud & proud almost all game (nice rendition of Sit Down in Your Empty Seats).
Defeat I can take - it wasnt the worst performance of the seaon - Barrow and Tranmere were awful. Just didnt do enough onthe night & couldnt handle the initial 20 mins onslaught. Feel sorry for Iandolo, MoM for me, tired to make something happen, making the most of his ability. Its been well documented our lack of bite, too many "nice" footballers. Looking at the playoffs in general, the refs bottled every big decision (Huddefield - Toffolo pen; Northampton pen & Mansfield should have had atleast 1 red) and given no protection to players - probably a directive to let the game flow. So benefitting the more phyiscal sides ie PV. Cant blame Garner for changing tactics and going long to avoid the PV press and midfield assault by their cloggers, but we're not really geared up for long ball to Davison (Davison control and no one running off him). PV tactics & lack of ref protection got to us before the game even started.
Losing on Pens is Swindon (1 from 8 shootouts?). Atleast it wasnt as bad as Barnet.



Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:07:43
Maybe the responsibility should be taken away from the clubs in terms of policing and the EFL should fork out for necessary protection. EFL supposedly takes 50% from these games so they're hardly scraping the barrell.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:10:33
Feel a bit emotional this morning. Trying to suppress anger & hate for the scum that thinks its ok to take a free hit at players, for PV in the ticket shenanigans, the vitriolic build-up. Feels like a Gillingham style rivalry just been created.
Couldnt get a ticket, but it was great to hear Town fans loud & proud almost all game (nice rendition of Sit Down in Your Empty Seats).
Defeat I can take - it wasnt the worst performance of the seaon - Barrow and Tranmere were awful. Just didnt do enough onthe night & couldnt handle the initial 20 mins onslaught. Feel sorry for Iandolo, MoM for me, tired to make something happen, making the most of his ability. Its been well documented our lack of bite, too many "nice" footballers. Looking at the playoffs in general, the refs bottled every big decision (Huddefield - Toffolo pen; Northampton pen & Mansfield should have had atleast 1 red) and given no protection to players - probably a directive to let the game flow. So benefitting the more phyiscal sides ie PV. Cant blame Garner for changing tactics and going long to avoid the PV press and midfield assault by their cloggers, but we're not really geared up for long ball to Davison (Davison control and no one running off him). PV tactics & lack of ref protection got to us before the game even started.
Losing on Pens is Swindon (1 from 8 shootouts?). Atleast it wasnt as bad as Barnet.



Losing on Pens is Swindon (1 from 8 shootouts?). Atleast it wasnt as bad as Barnet.

Or Cambridge…


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:15:31
Maybe the responsibility should be taken away from the clubs in terms of policing and the EFL should fork out for necessary protection. EFL supposedly takes 50% from these games so they're hardly scraping the barrell.

Maybe they should close all football stadiums. Demolish / sell them all off. Have every club invest in a state of the art 4G (or whatever G we are up to now) pitch (think Swindome) and have everyone buy tickets / season streams and watch remotely.
Zero crowd trouble then.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:17:19
Maybe they should close all football stadiums. Demolish / sell them all off. Have every club invest in a state of the art 4G (or whatever G we are up to now) pitch (think Swindome) and have everyone buy tickets / season streams and watch remotely.
Zero crowd trouble then.
Some of the twats would finish up fighting with themselves.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:34:36
Some of the twats would finish up fighting with themselves.

You want some?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:08:19
Oh and if I didn't already hate "glad all over" as goal music as it was, I definitely never want to hear it again after last night.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:19:46
Not sure what the answer is, but something needs to be done to protect players & officials from scenes like last night.

It won’t happen but maybe ban all fans from the guilty teams from the playoff final.
Alternatively, kick Out the guilty team, so in this case Mansfield get promoted without having to play.

It has to have some tangible impact on the club, otherwise they will continue to not give a toss, and claim they did everything they could.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:26:32
Not sure what the answer is, but something needs to be done to protect players & officials from scenes like last night.

It won’t happen but maybe ban all fans from the guilty teams from the playoff final.
Alternatively, kick Out the guilty team, so in this case Mansfield get promoted without having to play.

It has to have some tangible impact on the club, otherwise they will continue to not give a toss, and claim they did everything they could.

Obvious issue is you could have moles in the crowd. Can you imagine we won a play off semi final and 100 or so Oxford fans ran on the pitch disguised as Swindon supporters.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:33:22
Not sure what the answer is, but something needs to be done to protect players & officials from scenes like last night.

It won’t happen but maybe ban all fans from the guilty teams from the playoff final.
Alternatively, kick Out the guilty team, so in this case Mansfield get promoted without having to play.

It has to have some tangible impact on the club, otherwise they will continue to not give a toss, and claim they did everything they could.

You can't stop thousands of people invading a pitch. What you can do is ensure that the opposition fans are segregated by a police line and safe. See Walsall for non useless policing.

Although being able to tell the difference between two very clearly right and wrong methods makes you a keyboard warrior, apparently.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:43:40
I am sorry if I have upset some folk on here. I suppose I should accept the opinions are like arseholes- nearly everyone has one.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:55:41
Sound like a pussy Geeza

Keyboard warriors aye…..


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:02:22
I am sorry if I have upset some folk on here. I suppose I should accept the opinions are like arseholes- nearly everyone has one.

Sticking up for ex-colleagues and trying to put your experience across isn't a crime ex-officer.

There is always going to be a bit of "them and us".

Personally think some points were very valid from both sides of the argument.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:21:36
Sticking up for ex-colleagues and trying to put your experience across isn't a crime ex-officer.

There is always going to be a bit of "them and us".

Personally think some points were very valid from both sides of the argument.

Really? Because I'm not sure I heard much of an argument, opinion or retort other than "I'm at ex copper and you're not, so you wouldn't understand why these police elected not to protect people and instead video the victims"

There was no argument. Its just another copper sticking up for coppers being clearly wrong, just like we see more and more of over the last few years.

Blue lives matter and all that.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:24:12
Didn't he make the point that its very difficult to stop 1000(s) of fans getting on the pitch without unrealistic police numbers?

Because I agree with that. it is.

I also agree that more should have been done to control them when on the pitch. A la Walsall.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:28:50
Didn't he make the point that its very difficult to stop 1000(s) of fans getting on the pitch without unrealistic police numbers?

Because I agree with that. it is.

I also agree that more should have been done to control them when on the pitch. A la Walsall.

Stopping 1000s get on the pitch was never the argument. I even said that's impossible myself.

The argument was choosing to stand watching women and kids get pelted because you think it's more important to get some juicy footage so you can prosecute the victim for reacting.

Which is what happened and its nothing short of cowardly. I don't give a fuck if I've done the job before or not, they failed at the most basic expectations the public have of them in that situation. Simple as that.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:29:54
They should have had stewards and or police around the Swindon / Port Vale players during the shootout. That way, whoever loses can get quickly escorted off. When it goes down to sudden death you have enough time as stewards to calculate if they score/miss we need to protect that team. Not fucking hard is it.

As for fans, the way they handled it at Walsall was perfect. Keep them away from opposition fans by forming a line a good distance from them. It's a tough job, but last nights "protection" for both Swindon players and fans was pathetic. Swindon fans didn't help themselves by throwing bottles back at Vale fans though.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:32:32
Really? Because I'm not sure I heard much of an argument, opinion or retort other than "I'm at ex copper and you're not, so you wouldn't understand why these police elected not to protect people and instead video the victims"

There was no argument. Its just another copper sticking up for coppers being clearly wrong, just like we see more and more of over the last few years.

Blue lives matter and all that.

Yeah exactly that. Where’s the argument? Fucking embarrassing defending the point of view that women and kids shouldn’t be the police first point of call RE protection. Also laughable to completely ignore the fact our players got punched in face on pitch, women and kids coined, other fans hit by bottles, fans hit in face by pyros- but nah- not the police fault - #alllivesmatter #bluelivesmatter #allhighstreetstoresmattersojusticeforjjbsports. Fucking bollocks. Disgrace from the police yesterday- they laughed at it all and us.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:41:43
Mango, Chalkie,

You have your view on things. I have my view on things.

I wasn't at the game so didn't see what you are saying happened.

I try to offer an explanation as to why the big picture develops the way it does.

Accept it or not. I can't change that.

Our views will in all likelihood continue to differ but, such is the way of life.

Not ACAB- most really do care.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:49:57
I am sorry if I have upset some folk on here. I suppose I should accept the opinions are like arseholes- nearly everyone has one.

Not at all, I have a couple of ex copper brother in laws and they say much the same as you.

Still seems to be strange blaming the police when it was actually caused by people acting like wankers, and would not be an issue if men didn't feel the need to be bobby big balls and learnt to take their larger and coke!

Many of us have managed to get to middle age without the need to run on pitches, kick and thump people and throw stuff.

Anyway we will see what happens when some dickhead politician wants to make a point about such matters.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:00:05
Mango, Chalkie,

You have your view on things. I have my view on things.

I wasn't at the game so didn't see what you are saying happened.

I try to offer an explanation as to why the big picture develops the way it does.

Accept it or not. I can't change that.

Our views will in all likelihood continue to differ but, such is the way of life.

Not ACAB- most really do care.

What's set us off though is you clearly just jumped to the defense without realising the actions of the police on this occasion were very clearly wrong.

I get it, the police take a lot of flak and its not all warranted. But jumping to the defense of police who have clearly fucked up just makes it more "us vs them"

If they'd have got off their asses and formed a line in front of the town fans last night we wouldn't have two or three little boys and girls 8 to 10 years old being treated for head injuries.

Why they deemed it more appropriate to video the victims, you being an ex copper will probably know better than me. But I have my suspicions.



Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:02:17
Obvious issue is you could have moles in the crowd. Can you imagine we won a play off semi final and 100 or so Oxford fans ran on the pitch disguised as Swindon supporters.

It would be the club’s responsibility to ensure that doesn’t happen, they would at least have some incentive to do so.

FWIW I don’t have much of a problem with fans celebrating on the pitch (think of the Walsall game at Swindon when we both got promoted), but something has to be done to protect the players & officials.

To me the clubs have to have some responsibility to ensure that happens.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:07:11
Mansfield have an initial allocation of 30k, Vile have 25k  ;D


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:13:03
Mansfield have an initial allocation of 30k, Vile have 25k  ;D

Tinpot  :girlgiggle:

Might be worth setting up a seat allocation/sales thread so that those who are not keeping such a close eye can swerve the updates.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:14:23
Mansfield have an initial allocation of 30k, Vile have 25k  ;D
Initial? Surely they don’t expect to sell all of them let alone more?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:18:42
Initial? Surely they don’t expect to sell all of them let alone more?

I think they'll return more than they'll sell


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:26:44
What's set us off though is you clearly just jumped to the defense without realising the actions of the police on this occasion were very clearly wrong.

I get it, the police take a lot of flak and its not all warranted. But jumping to the defense of police who have clearly fucked up just makes it more "us vs them"

If they'd have got off their asses and formed a line in front of the town fans last night we wouldn't have two or three little boys and girls 8 to 10 years old being treated for head injuries.

Why they deemed it more appropriate to video the victims, you being an ex copper will probably know better than me. But I have my suspicions.



Ex Occupational Hazard from doing a job where practitioners were/ are constantly under the cosh. I retired 8 years ago next month but some of the wounds are still raw.

Don't get me wrong, I know as well as everyone else that certain officers should be out of a job or should never have got one but, the bad apples do get through.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:31:48
Not sure what the answer is, but something needs to be done to protect players & officials from scenes like last night.

It won’t happen but maybe ban all fans from the guilty teams from the playoff final.
Alternatively, kick Out the guilty team, so in this case Mansfield get promoted without having to play.

It has to have some tangible impact on the club, otherwise they will continue to not give a toss, and claim they did everything they could.

If the EFL took a hard standard of disqualifying a team that doesn't police their fans properly then maybe something would change over time...there will be dumb asses  but that many and to go after who they did...  if you know your team will not be allowed to play in the finals if you assault the other team/fans in the stadium then maybe you think twice?   it has to come from the top with stiff penalties to really make a difference, a club this size doesnt have the resources to deal with it themselves even if they want to.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:40:20
I try to offer an explanation as to why the big picture develops the way it does.
Sorry but this excuse doesn’t wash on this occasion. There was no development of the big picture, the Police openly admitted before the game this would happen and no plans in place, the officers on the ground hadn’t even been properly briefed on switch of away ends. So if they clearly knew this would happen why wasn’t there a plan in place to protest players and away fans?!

It’s the equivalent of not trying to stop a terrorist attack because you think it’s going to happen eventually anyway!

The police along with Vale made a complete mess of this and it is indefensible just like the actions of their fans and manager.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:41:35
Just been speaking to a Mate of Harry McKirdy.
Evidently took a few punches and kicks last night, a little bruising but devastated about the game outcome.
Was also sat Close to his Dad last night. Clearly broken with that penalty miss.

Somebody could have been seriously hurt with all that going on last night.
I sure some Scum Vale fans will be sleeping a little uneasy next few nexts expecting a knock on the door.
Hope they identify a few as that was totally unacceptable.

Just knew it was going to kick of days before. Always an edgy place as is Stoke.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Godd002 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:45:12
Just been speaking to a Mate of Harry McKirdy.
Evidently took a few punches and kicks last night, a little bruising but devastated about the game outcome.
Was also sat Close to his Dad last night. Clearly broken with that penalty miss.

Somebody could have been seriously hurt with all that going on last night.
I sure some Scum Vale fans will be sleeping a little uneasy next few nexts expecting a knock on the door.
Hope they identify a few as that was totally unacceptable.

Just knew it was going to kick of days before. Always an edgy place as is Stoke.

Feel bad for McKirdy..he was clearly shaken most of the match....not sure I would have put him in my 1st 5...Pens are all about confidence, and he was shaken...alot to ask of a young guy.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:03:54
Just been speaking to a Mate of Harry McKirdy.
Evidently took a few punches and kicks last night, a little bruising but devastated about the game outcome.
Was also sat Close to his Dad last night. Clearly broken with that penalty miss.

Somebody could have been seriously hurt with all that going on last night.
I sure some Scum Vale fans will be sleeping a little uneasy next few nexts expecting a knock on the door.
Hope they identify a few as that was totally unacceptable.

Just knew it was going to kick of days before. Always an edgy place as is Stoke.

Club have been silent.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:06:17
Just a guide to how policing tends to be paid for.

Generally, police outside the ground, or the complex (think Adams Park where it is all behind a fence and gates), costs are met by the Police.

Officers inside the ground are funded by the club.

This therefore has an impact on what the club are willing to accept.

The cost per officer is not insignificant. I am trying to remember some of the numbers bandied around when I used to be involved. A quick dig around shows the recommended cost per officer per hour was £58.99 in 2018/19. This is for 6 hours per officer (the time needed to meet, travel, brief, deploy, do the job, travel, debrief, log off) which the club will be billed for so, £353.94 per PC. Sergeants and above are more expensive. Over £3.5k for 10 officers inside the ground. No wonder some smaller clubs (and bigger ones) balk at having reasonable numbers inside.

10 Officers outside the ground but working just for the football cost us, the tax payer exactly the same amount of additional cost.

Policing things like football with an element of risk of disorder are done with Police Support Units- PSU's. A PSU is 3 serials (vans). Each serial is 1 sergeant, one driver (PC) and 6 constables. Each PSU is led by an Inspector. Each event has a command structure of at least one Bronze commander (Inspector/ Chief Inspector) to deal with tactical decision making, and a Match Commander (Ch Insp/ Supt) to oversee the whole thing and liaise with other services, safety officer etc. There will generally be an accredited Public Order Tactical Advisor who is nationally accredited to offer advice and tactical options to the Match Commander. There will be dedicated evidence gatherers who are tasked with collecting visual and audio evidence of disorder. They are required to stand back and not get involved in hands on stuff as they will be lost to the task they specialise in whilst dealing with suspects and offenders. There may be dog handlers and mounted police (worth their weight in gold in disorder) plus other specialists like traffic units to speedily escort travelling fans coaches or team busses in and out of the arena.

It can very quickly mount up to 50 officers or more to police a game at Div 2/ 1 level if the risk assessment indicates there is a realistic chance of it kicking off. At a minimum of £350 per cop- a shitload of money.

Neither club chairmen or Chief Constables like the idea of loosing money 'best' spent elsewhere on policing a bunch of fuckwit morons wanting a bit of a flare up pissing contest at a sporting event.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:11:41
Neither club chairmen or Chief Constables like the idea of loosing money 'best' spent elsewhere on policing a bunch of fuckwit morons wanting a bit of a flare up pissing contest at a sporting event.
So the innocent people inside the ground put at risk are just collateral damage and immaterial are they?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:16:19
fuzzy, to be clear I'm not disputing numbers or how hard the job is. I have friends that are in the force. I'm disputing having 100 officers all around the pitch when all we needed was one line along the away fans at a distance from the stand.

a pitch invasion only becomes a problem when it isn't managed. protect the players, protect the away fans and let the home fans have their little run around as much as they want.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:43:37
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=374949101328262&id=100064395261175

Getting hammered in the comments section and rightfully so


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:08:43
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=374949101328262&id=100064395261175

Getting hammered in the comments section and rightfully so

Good ol Swindon football police. The same Swindon police spotters that were present at the game yesterday, filming Swindon fans being assaulted instead of trying to intervene. Very, very strange bunch.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Mr Stevens on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:12:19
Coming to terms with last night and all very disappointing. Two things I would like to point out. Firstly, the problems with pitch invasions at Nottingham, Everton and Port Vale all stemmed from the 'fans' of the winning side. I haven't worked out how relevant that is.

Secondly, I really dislike the labelling of an entire fan base as vile scum etc. I'm certain that the vast majority of Vale fans are decent, passionate and well-behaved. I'd cite the vlogs of recent visitors to the County Ground, namely Vale, Scunthorpe and Walsall as examples of decent people going to a game.

We have our share as well. There was a certain amount of goading of visiting fans after the Sheffield United second leg and the priority of some people is not to celebrate the victory but to stimulate tension and violence.

I've got no answers though. Maybe the non-segregation of fans like Rugby Union?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:34:04
Not that I saw. Some bottles were thrown back and forwards but on the whole I think we were very restrained. A very small handful of people I think attempted to break seats to throw but I don't think that went anywhere.

Are we talking glass or plastic bottles?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:37:45
mentioning nonces in direct relation to policing football is a bit weird. that's no correlation. Knowing someone who worked in that area of policing, they are so under resourced the amount of time available on each case is depressing.

I'm not actually sure what the police can do, yet something more needs to be done. it happened at so many grounds this year where what should be  celebration turned into something else.

that pitch needed a line to clear then back though. and a presence on players. things could have been very ugly indeed

The answer is somewhere above put a moat all around the pitch if the thugs can't behave.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:47:33
Are we talking glass or plastic bottles?

Is that a serious question? Plastic of course.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:52:47
Is that a serious question? Plastic of course.

Never been more serious idiots could easily smuggle glass bottles into the stadium.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:53:08
Coming to terms with last night and all very disappointing. Two things I would like to point out. Firstly, the problems with pitch invasions at Nottingham, Everton and Port Vale all stemmed from the 'fans' of the winning side. I haven't worked out how relevant that is.

Secondly, I really dislike the labelling of an entire fan base as vile scum etc. I'm certain that the vast majority of Vale fans are decent, passionate and well-behaved. I'd cite the vlogs of recent visitors to the County Ground, namely Vale, Scunthorpe and Walsall as examples of decent people going to a game.

We have our share as well. There was a certain amount of goading of visiting fans after the Sheffield United second leg and the priority of some people is not to celebrate the victory but to stimulate tension and violence.

I've got no answers though. Maybe the non-segregation of fans like Rugby Union?

My views on last night that the unsavoury incidents are not isolated from what else we’ve seen this week and I hate to say it but if the shoe was on the other foot and if it had been at the County Ground, I’m not totally confident that a small minority of our fans would be giving us the negative headlines this morning. That said, anyone with a brain cell pre-game would have assessed the risks and built a safety strategy around circumstances. Anyone on the internet can see the tensions rising through the weeks with fans going at each other, McKirdy on the wind up.. Hell, even Clarke lost his head and got sent off… It was an emotionally charged atmosphere with a lot at stake but the safety planning was fuck all. We’ve seen it also at Stevenage too where poor safety and scenario planning/ execution led to unsavoury incidents. Don’t get me wrong, everyone needs to take responsibility to behave and be a decent human being. But plans needs to be in place to correct such behaviour and de-risk situations before they end up like they have this week.

In truth, I don’t think the EFL and FA have done anywhere near as much as they should be doing to give clubs enough guidelines, regulations and rules on how to build and execute such safety strategies.. IMO, there is more than evidence to suggest the EFL and FA are absolutely clueless and as a result deserve to be attributed with portions of blame to the stain of the game this week.

Clue the response being to brush it all under the carpet and ‘if it happens again, then….’ bluff. Toothless and spineless. When is that football regulator being implemented to hold the FA and EFL accountable?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 20, 2022, 18:15:09
Is that a serious question? Plastic of course.

Seen someone say glass smashed on their seat


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 20, 2022, 18:17:18
Seen someone say glass smashed on their seat

That was behind my question and the reason why I asked


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Boeta on Friday, May 20, 2022, 18:36:34
FA need to get a grip.

£1k fine for anyone that enters the field of play

Points deduction for any club that allows 25+ people on the pitch.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 19:34:13
Never been more serious idiots could easily smuggle glass bottles into the stadium.

correct at least one glass bottle was thrown 100%


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 20, 2022, 19:39:43
correct at least one glass bottle was thrown 100%

Cheers, if glass bottles are slipping under the radar then only a matter of time before there's an incident with knifes


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 20:46:03
Not surprisingly we won on the class stakes last night.
High pressure game, around the 70th minute their scoreboard celebrating the loss of one of their fans.
The vast majority of Swindon fans momentarily joining in the minutes applause.

There you go Vale - Everywhere we go ✊


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 20, 2022, 20:51:23
Found myself wondering if Port Vale might be thrown out of the playoffs because of fans attacking the opposition's players.

Could just imagine that happening to us, but not something that I would want to happen 'just' to still give us a chance of going to Wembley.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 21:00:54
Club statement issued.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 21:03:48
Cheers, if glass bottles are slipping under the radar then only a matter of time before there's an incident with knifes

Fair enough. I only saw plastic bottles thrown. If there was glass bottles thrown then that's very serious indeed.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 20, 2022, 21:15:56
Fair enough. I only saw plastic bottles thrown. If there was glass bottles thrown then that's very serious indeed.

No problem Bob just trying to work out how bad things were.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Friday, May 20, 2022, 23:41:39
That club are just truly vile

What I witnessed last night was as the worst I’ve seen in 35 years watching the town. And worse of all the police and stewards were utterly useless.

Vale should have the highest sanction possible applied for those disgraceful antics.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: WEBBERhyde on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 00:00:18
24 hrs on from the event hasn’t made things much easier to take. Two separate threads to cover here.

Point 1, Town and the match; what a disappointment. We had every right to be confident ahead of the match, I saw it that way completely ahead of the match…it wasn’t arrogance or thinking we had the semi tied up at all. Fuck me any side that’s been through a 5-5 play off semi leg knows it’s never over. But ultimately we didn’t perform as you’d hope and expect us to. There were poor individual performances, particularly from the front 3, but as a whole unit we looked shot. Not surprising considering we’d played the last 5 or so matches as all out cup finals. Energy-wise it looked as if it really had caught up with us at Vale. Credit to Vale defence though, they managed to keep us very quiet. I didn’t think the goal we conceded at the CG would be so pivotal, but ultimately it was (still bitter about the McKirdy foul in the build up to it). Just such a shame we didn’t get the same break of luck where a blocked and deflected shot fell to one of our players in return. That’s what will haunt me from this, not giving their keeper anything to think about over the 120 minutes.

Secondly pitch invasions: I genuinely don’t know why the fuck people think this is such a conundrum to sort out. The very simple answer is that everyone that goes to a match, actually takes some fucking personal responsibility and accountability, and stays off the bastard pitch, no matter what happens. It really isn’t that hard a concept to grasp. Why the fucking hell every man and his dog thinks it’s deriguer to get on the pitch at any end of season victory these days is beyond me.
People who insist on getting on the pitch, for no other reason than the novelty for getting on the pitch, all they are doing is enabling the tiny minority of total wankers who want to get a dig at oppo players and fans. The fewer people on the fucking pitch in the first place, the easier it is to smoke out the twats who get on the pitch to cause trouble. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that it’s much harder to police (numbers for example) 100-200 idiots that fancy getting tasty, if there’s another 2000 getting on with them and getting in the way.
If the 98% of people on the pitch who are there to get some gormless fucking photo or video of them on the pitch to show what “pashun” they have for their club to their 5 mates on social media aren’t there, either the mob mentality of safety in numbers is vastly dimished reducing the chances of actual violence happening in the first place, or the likelihood of being two footed by security staff due to isolation, is much increased.
Town fans can clutch their pearls as much as they like, but I’d be surprised if the roles were reversed and the winning pen was stuck away at the CG, we wouldnt see similar scenes. The fact we’ve seen it at other matches this week that have sparked this conversation, suggests it’s a football societal problem, not just club problem. Fans manage to stay in the stands all through the year, why the fuck is there a need to get on the pitch at the end of it. Yes I include those that got on at Walsall, it was bizarre…We’re still stuck in this fucking league for fuck sake.

TLDR; humans aren’t that far developed beyond herd animals, they follow crowds. The more people they see normalising getting on the pitch, the higher the chances are of something nasty happening on the pitch. Stay off the pitch, even if you’re just there to get some shite video to wank over that evening. It’s not fucking hard.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Moss on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 05:26:42
24 hrs on from the event hasn’t made things much easier to take. Two separate threads to cover here.

Point 1, Town and the match; what a disappointment. We had every right to be confident ahead of the match, I saw it that way completely ahead of the match…it wasn’t arrogance or thinking we had the semi tied up at all. Fuck me any side that’s been through a 5-5 play off semi leg knows it’s never over. But ultimately we didn’t perform as you’d hope and expect us to. There were poor individual performances, particularly from the front 3, but as a whole unit we looked shot. Not surprising considering we’d played the last 5 or so matches as all out cup finals. Energy-wise it looked as if it really had caught up with us at Vale. Credit to Vale defence though, they managed to keep us very quiet. I didn’t think the goal we conceded at the CG would be so pivotal, but ultimately it was (still bitter about the McKirdy foul in the build up to it). Just such a shame we didn’t get the same break of luck where a blocked and deflected shot fell to one of our players in return. That’s what will haunt me from this, not giving their keeper anything to think about over the 120 minutes.

Secondly pitch invasions: I genuinely don’t know why the fuck people think this is such a conundrum to sort out. The very simple answer is that everyone that goes to a match, actually takes some fucking personal responsibility and accountability, and stays off the bastard pitch, no matter what happens. It really isn’t that hard a concept to grasp. Why the fucking hell every man and his dog thinks it’s deriguer to get on the pitch at any end of season victory these days is beyond me.
People who insist on getting on the pitch, for no other reason than the novelty for getting on the pitch, all they are doing is enabling the tiny minority of total wankers who want to get a dig at oppo players and fans. The fewer people on the fucking pitch in the first place, the easier it is to smoke out the twats who get on the pitch to cause trouble. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that it’s much harder to police (numbers for example) 100-200 idiots that fancy getting tasty, if there’s another 2000 getting on with them and getting in the way.
If the 98% of people on the pitch who are there to get some gormless fucking photo or video of them on the pitch to show what “pashun” they have for their club to their 5 mates on social media aren’t there, either the mob mentality of safety in numbers is vastly dimished reducing the chances of actual violence happening in the first place, or the likelihood of being two footed by security staff due to isolation, is much increased.
Town fans can clutch their pearls as much as they like, but I’d be surprised if the roles were reversed and the winning pen was stuck away at the CG, we wouldnt see similar scenes. The fact we’ve seen it at other matches this week that have sparked this conversation, suggests it’s a football societal problem, not just club problem. Fans manage to stay in the stands all through the year, why the fuck is there a need to get on the pitch at the end of it. Yes I include those that got on at Walsall, it was bizarre…We’re still stuck in this fucking league for fuck sake.

TLDR; humans aren’t that far developed beyond herd animals, they follow crowds. The more people they see normalising getting on the pitch, the higher the chances are of something nasty happening on the pitch. Stay off the pitch, even if you’re just there to get some shite video to wank over that evening. It’s not fucking hard.

This 100%. Pitch invasions make me cringe. It’s like watching a bunch of 5 year olds after too much sugar.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 06:43:45
I imagine Webber's comments are going to get a lot of discussion. From my standpoint I personally have no desire to run onto any pitch, I never have and probably never will, I don't personally see the point. Clearly they are very popular and a lot of fans do enjoy them and a peaceful invasion can look impressive. It's a whole other discussion but since we came out of Covid social behaviour has got worse and pitch invasions now seem to offer huge risks for players/staff as well as the liklihood of trouble between fans.

I don't think you can really ever stop fans running onto the pitch realistically, there is far too much of this 'we'll do what we want' mentally in the stands.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 06:50:53
Just give the promotion to Mansfield.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 07:25:13
Make clubs who have significant pitch invasions play three games behind closed doors. That will solve it


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 07:32:30
Shame we are having to talk about this.

Would much rather focus on the performance on the pitch - Although, there aren't many positives to draw out of that.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 07:35:35
It's time to move on build a new squad quickly, look foward to the fixtures coming out next month and get a decent pre-season behind us.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 08:47:58
It's time to move on build a new squad quickly, look foward to the fixtures coming out next month and get a decent pre-season behind us.
Exactly this, let’s move on,  we all know what the EFL will do about it. - FUCK ALL.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 08:54:18
Exactly this, let’s move on,  we all know what the EFL will do about it. - FUCK ALL.

If it was just us then I’d agree, but the fact that it happened at other places as well they might be forced into something. That said it will probably be a token gesture & nothing specific against the clubs involved.

At the very least they should withhold any monies due to them from these playoffs.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 09:52:04
I said before I don't have a problem with a pitch invasion. That was based off it being harmless celebration, though there was always a small twat element now and again that goad I suppose.

Think Walsall, that was fine.

But things have changed in the last week. Players and people being put in danger.

if you don't stamp it out the minority... give an inch, take a mile.  it only takes one idiot to cause something very serious indeed.

in short, I got the mindset of done pitch invaders totally wrong.

sad days


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 09:53:18
Keep off the pitch


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:11:28
Staffordshire Police have put out a witness appeal for anyone who witnessed an assault or has video or photo's to call 101, ask for Staffordshire Police  or use facebook or twitter quoting incident number 213 of 16th may 2022.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Oldwembley69 on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:21:19
Keep off the pitch
This no exceptions


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:31:53
Staffordshire Police have put out a witness appeal for anyone who witnessed an assault or has video or photo's to call 101, ask for Staffordshire Police  or use facebook or twitter quoting incident number 213 of 16th may 2022.
Does that include by their manager?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:33:56
Why was Clark sent to the stands I missed it?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:42:05
Some interesting input on the post match disorder at Vile.

Fuzzy:  An interesting insight to the costs of policing and the division of funding between taxpayer and club.

Webber:  I think you made a good point about the vast majority of friendly invaders being invited to restrain themselves and so cast the spotlight on the minority of idiots who could then be handled so much more easily - and inexpensively.

Part of me enjoyed watching the ecstatic invasion at Walsall.  There were plenty of parents and children which gave the scenes an innocent, festive feel.  But even our own players were ambivalent about even "loving jostling", with McKirdy reminding us that there were still 3 matches to go. I was on a borrowed ticket, so I didn't even need to ask myself the question whether to join in.  But I had read appeals in the programme not to invade the pitch as this would only lead to higher policing requirements for the club which it could not afford.  So "home" invasions are damaging to your own club.  I think the individual clubs could therefore actively communicate this aspect to the more serious and responsible of its fans - so that they can play a part in helping their own club.  Particularly at STFC where there is a very positive relationship between club and owner.  Leaving an easier job of idiot-control.

What I remain unclear about is WHO has the power to REQUIRE clubs to increase policing inside the ground?  It does not appear to be wholly down to the individual club.

As for what went wrong on the night at Vale, I would be inclined to partially "blame" or seek explanations from the Match Commander and especially the Strategic Adviser.  As has been pointed out, the most negative aspects appear to have been capable of control by cordoning off the players and, as at Walsall (but for the Home End in that case), parking a line of police in front of the away end at sufficient distance to control any away invasion as well as missile throwing by the idiots amongst the Home hordes.

But it all comes down to "duty", legally in contract or negligence, as well as morally, and there can be little doubt that the organisers and promoters of the event (EFL. FA, Port Vale) all have a duty of care towards the law abiding spectators and the players and other participants.  And the police have a duty to ensure that they carry out their role professionally.  

The endangerment of players was no Act of God.  The duties appear not to have been met.  Insurance and policing costs will likely soon increase.  I just hope STFC does what it can and that the sensible ones of us help by taking on board that even harmless pitch invasions are going to start negatively impacting our own club.  Doh.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Qunk on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:48:44
Found myself wondering if Port Vale might be thrown out of the playoffs because of fans attacking the opposition's players.

Could just imagine that happening to us, but not something that I would want to happen 'just' to still give us a chance of going to Wembley.

I’ve thought the same. We lost the game fair and square, so I wouldn’t want to see us in the final at the expense of Port Vile. However I think it would be an enormous statement of intent if PV lost their place at the expense of Mansfield. I’d have no problem with that whatsoever


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:56:27
Why was Clark sent to the stands I missed it?
Conroy was involved, legitimately, in getting the ball off  the ballboy - who was acting like a PV player and turning away and holding on to the ball, preventing Conroy from having a quick throw.  Conroy was engaged in trying to take the ball from the ballboy's grasp.  No force at all - just simply putting his hands on the ball to take/tug it from the reluctant ball boy's hands. Clarke stormed out of his technical and created a melee with Conroy, definitively preventing the quick throw and, I didn't see clearly, may have actually given Conroy a little dig/slap in the ribs.  

Hopefully his red card will give him an automatic ban, ensuring he watches the Final from the stands.

A question for others.  Remind me who was the manager who actually tripped Jonny Williams when he was running down the touchline in time added on earlier this year.  That was worse imo.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:58:40
Conroy was involved, legitimately, in getting the ball off  the ballboy - who was acting like a PV player and turning away and holding on to the ball, preventing Conroy from having a quick throw.  Conroy was engaged in trying to take the ball from the ballboy's grasp.  No force at all - just simply putting his hands on the ball to take/tug it from the reluctant ball boy's hands. Clarke stormed out of his technical and created a melee with Conroy and, I didn't see clearly, may have actually given Conroy a little dig/slap in the ribs.  

Hopefully his red card will give him an automatic ban, ensuring he watches the Final from the stands.

Cheers RedRag for the info


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RWB Robin on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:02:13
I suspect, had the invasion happened during the match, something could have been done about PVs place in the final. Because it happened after the end of the game (and the referee was quickly escorted off) that will not/cannot happen.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:08:12
Does that include by their manager?

The police tend not to be invited to investigate incidents like is alleged to have occurred between Clarke and Conroy. Don't ask me why but I suspect that incidents that occur between players and pitch side staff being investigated as crimes would result in every professional footballer and pitch side staff member being subject of investigation.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:08:18

A question for others.  Remind me who was the manager who actually tripped Jonny Williams when he was running down the touchline in time added on earlier this year.  That was worse imo.

That was recent entry into the ranks of the unemployed, Gary Bowyer.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:10:28
The police tend not to be invited to investigate incidents like is alleged to have occurred between Clarke and Conroy. Don't ask me why but I suspect that incidents that occur between players and pitch side staff being investigated as crimes would result in every professional footballer and pitch side staff member being subject of investigation.

An old mate of mine served in the Wilts Constabulary for 30 years


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Anteater on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:15:29
Have read the thread back and most things already well covered, just a couple of points.
What was it with the ball boys shithousery throughout the game not giving us the ball back straight away but holding on to it then dropping the ball on the floor when a Town player fetched it ? This was partly the reason for the flare up with the Vile manager getting sent off.
Feel that Port Vile FC in their entirety from Chairwoman to ballboys / stewards / etc really did a number on us. Needless change of ends for away fans, hospitality offered absolute zero, and manager happy to endorse shithouse behaviour !
So proud of all our team, plus Clem Rob and all staff. We'll get even better after this, excited about our future. Harry Ellis and Josh still Town heroes.
Finally special mention to the fans at Vile Park, great noise and support (and a mention to the massive improvement in support at home) Class showing compared to the Chavs of Burslem.
 


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:45:08
Cheers RedRag for the info

It was alleged/reported that Clarke headbutted Conroy.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:49:54
The police tend not to be invited to investigate incidents like is alleged to have occurred between Clarke and Conroy. Don't ask me why but I suspect that incidents that occur between players and pitch side staff being investigated as crimes would result in every professional footballer and pitch side staff member being subject of investigation.
So a manager can walk up to a player head butt him and it’s not a crime. Right….  In the heat of the moment on the pitch between players is one thing, a manager doing it though is assault the same as any fan doing it as he shouldn’t be anywhere near opposition players.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:50:17
It was alleged/reported that Clarke headbutted Conroy.

Surely there has to be footage of that to press charges etc


Title: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:52:56
A headbut should be investigated. if I headbutted someone at work I'd be sacked. But I'd leave it to Conroy to complain or not.

 Clarke should be consigned to the stands for a couple of games, I assume he was sent for violent conduct


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:57:12
Alan Pardew was fined £100,000 by Newcastle let's hope Port Vale do the same!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:03:10
A headbut should be investigated. if I headbutted someone at work I'd be sacked. But I'd leave it to Conroy to complain or not.

 Clarke should be consigned to the stands for a couple of games, I assume he was sent for violent conduct
Problem is it’s no win for the player to report him. Clarke and Vale have pulled out the sympathy card over the death of his daughter as an excuse so if Conroy was to press charges he’d be seen as the bad guy and having a lack of compassion.

He’ll probably get to sit in the dugout at Wembley now as Vale have manipulated the EFL into a position where they won’t want to be seen as bad guys.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:09:07
Surely there has to be footage of that to press charges etc

Maybe in the replay video on the OS.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:09:24
But he shouldn't go unpunished even he if has been through a torrid time in his personal life.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:25:50
he got sent off. there must be at least EFL discipline as per rules


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:31:04
But he shouldn't go unpunished even he if has been through a torrid time in his personal life.

Agreed. As a manager or person in authority one should lead by example. I’d throw the book at the club, manager, players and fans for any ‘offence or transgression’ as simple as that. To often authority figures get off lightly for misdemeanours.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:31:32
he got sent off. there must be at least EFL discipline as per rules

Bringing the game in disrepute


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:54:15
So a manager can walk up to a player head butt him and it’s not a crime. Right….  In the heat of the moment on the pitch between players is one thing, a manager doing it though is assault the same as any fan doing it as he shouldn’t be anywhere near opposition players.

That isn't what I said though is it?

If Conroy was head butted, he is the victim of the crime, not you. Unless extenuating circumstances prevail such as murder or assaults where the victim is mentally incapacitated long term, or domestic violence where the victim is in fear of reprisal etc, then a prosecution requires the victim to report the crime for investigation.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:08:09
That isn't what I said though is it?

If Conroy was head butted, he is the victim of the crime, not you. Unless extenuating circumstances prevail such as murder or assaults where the victim is mentally incapacitated long term, or domestic violence where the victim is in fear of reprisal etc, then a prosecution requires the victim to report the crime for investigation.

If I see a crime being committed I can report it even if I’m not the victim.
And we all know (from the Caroline Flack case) that the Police could still press chargers even if the victim doesn’t want to (not sure if that only applies in domestic abuse or murder cases).

That said, we all know based on the Police performance at Vale Park they won’t do anything, but presumably would be duty bound to investigate if it was reported


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:19:37
That isn't what I said though is it?

If Conroy was head butted, he is the victim of the crime, not you. Unless extenuating circumstances prevail such as murder or assaults where the victim is mentally incapacitated long term, or domestic violence where the victim is in fear of reprisal etc, then a prosecution requires the victim to report the crime for investigation.
You really are an ex copper aren’t you, it’s just a list of excuses why not. If there’s clear video evidence of a crime it shouldn’t require a victim to press charges.


Title: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:23:20
shouldn't...

but if there's no chance of a conviction without victim support then I guess there's no point in trying.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: fuzzy on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:27:40
You really are an ex copper aren’t you, it’s just a list of excuses why not. If there’s clear video evidence of a crime it shouldn’t require a victim to press charges.

yes I really am an ex copper. Want to know something else? The police often like the rules that they have to work under as little as the public that moan about them.

Prosecution isn't decided by the police. The wonderful folk at the Crown Prosecution Service decide who and what gets prosecuted. They require a realistic prospect of a conviction before they say that a charge is authorised. No support from a victim? Very little realistic prospect.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 14:41:06
Not really a lot to say on the match. Over two legs the two teams seemingly even, even if both adopted different styles of play and strategy.

Came down to penalties. That should have been Town's in the bag after Vale missed two. Thats the gutting part. Ward was class though. Not bad for a No.2.

Post-match. Pretty disgraceful. Similarly hope Mansfield beat them at Wembley.

Unfortunately with two sets of fans with some history of violence I can see there being some trouble. It won't take much if the minority of Vale Neanderthals kick off with the Stags Neanderthals. One thing I know about people from North Notts is you don't fucking goad or try winding them up as they won't take it lying down. Been in many an establishment in that area over the years and whilst the people are bloody lovely, you definitely feel the instant vibe of "in no circumstances do you upset me. Understood?!".

Put simply - They have some hard bastards who have no problem doing the time. I hope those several "exciteable" Vale fans heed it and reel things in a tad because it could get quite messy around North London on the 28th May. A case of too much booze, drugs and elevated levels of testosterone will do little to smooth the egos of some 40-50yr old+ blokes, yearning for some nawty boi nostalgia with their chavvy offspring in tow thinking it's all such a larf until they see a brick sticking out of their besties head! Which in some cases might be an improvement.

I say all this but would have said similar if the PO Final had ended up being STFC versus Wovers.

I notice in other cultural news that after a failed bid to claim city status, Burslem has applied to be granted twinning Town status with Bristol. One can only assume it has something to do with the levels of delusion and diminishing IQ shared by several fans of both the Valiants and the Pirates.

Hey ho, I think most of us are still alive and well. Fuzzy, it's probably pointless digging that hole. Especially on the TEF. Although I understand you're likely to be in a thankless position. Don't think deflecting from the stark issue is quite the route to go as it comes across as uncaring and that only makes that "them and us" divide grow further. Have a lot of respect for possibly 99% of cops on the ground (aka bobbies on the beat) and know full well of their personal frustrations. Especially concerning being underfunded and yet expected to carry out about 10 different full time roles. The law really is an ass huh!

I share Batch's view about pitch running onnery and disagree with Webber to a degree. I'll happily take my short video and "live" in that moment so I have something to wank off to when I get home (who else is going to toss me off on those cold winter nights) and run on the pitch. My (and many) intent is purely to do that - literally just enjoy that moment and not even considering hurting anyone. At Walsall there was even a bloke in a wheelchair on the pitch celebrating.  It was all good natured. Its fine if others and yourself find it cringe. That's ok, I find "reem blokes" with the same hair, teeth and tan fucking cringe but I also understand they aren't hurting anyone.

As with anything, it's always a minority of people who spoil fucking everything for others. But then again, when the Met pull investigation from the top dog running the country, is it any idea that the general public think it's ok to act like a complete dickhead too...then be confused to as to why they end up arrested and prosecuted for it? I call it "Shrodinger's Parties" and another step towards autocracy. This filters down to simple things like paid leisure activities such as watching pro footy. Give it a decade and the UK will become a place where we have a "fun Police", and you'll only legally (or illegally depending who you ask) be able to do fun stuff if you're a person of higher authority.

Yay for posititvity! :thumb: Auto has to be the main priority next season,  even if it means having to sign the floppy haired legend from Hylo on a one season PAYP contract  :pint:


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 14:43:51
Good read that Kev :clap:


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 14:57:44
Time out chaps!

Why is Fuzzy getting grief? He's been explaining the way that processes based upon his knowledge of the police force.

On the subjects being discussed:

- Clarke should be disciplined by the FA for his inappropriate behaviour. There are processes in place for that.
- Rather than investigating Clarke, I would prefer the police spend their time and tax payers money on investigating murders, rapes, robberies etc
- Clarke should NOT be interviewed by the media for comments on pitch invasions in the last few days. The bloke ran onto a part of the pitch he wasn't allowed on and accosted one of our players. How he can then say it was wrong of PV fans to do the same after the whistle is hypocracy.
- The invasions and assaults are just a symptom of moral decay. People seem to feel so entitled these days. Stay in the fucking stands and follow the rules! Big punishments for those who dont follow the rules.
- Port Vale should potentially be investigated by the Health & Safety Executive for not keeping employees and customers safe. They are the ones that provided inadequate marshalling.
- Shithousing: I hate it when we do it. I hate it when other teams do it. I especially hate to see what the ball boys were doing. These are young kids who are our future! Are they being instructed to cheat? Are they not being punished for cheating? I haven't brought my kids up like that. These are the rapists and bank robbers of the future.  
- Diving: Same principle. Its cheating.
- Our performance: Disappointingly poor. Wrong mindset. Didn't take the game to them. Tried to hold what we had. PV approached the game correctly and deserved what they got.
- The penalties: Two saves from your goalkeeper and you still lose? McKirdy, Iandolo and Davison (in that order) need to take a look at themselves.








Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 14:59:46
Ball boys get instructed by the club/players.

I don't blame them

We do the same


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:02:37
Ball boys get instructed by the club/players.

I don't blame them

We do the same
Its fucking cheating and its inappropriate to teach children to do it!


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:05:37
You really are an ex copper aren’t you, it’s just a list of excuses why not. If there’s clear video evidence of a crime it shouldn’t require a victim to press charges.
It doesn't anymore tbf. The police can still take him to court without a victim statement now


Title: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:06:53
Quote
- The penalties: Two saves from your goalkeeper and you still lose? McKirdy, Iandolo and Davison (in that order) need to take a look at themselve
agree with the sentiment there, 100%

I guess your order is based on not hitting the target?

A reminder iandolo was what, #7 or was it 8 in the pecking order for a reason. He didn't want one.

McKirdy no excuse but he is at least the reason we were there in the first place. Terrible pen.

Davison worked the keeper. It was his performance over the 2 legs open play that is one of the reasons we aren't in the final.

The pressure of pens .. it's  bad enough with a man and his dog watching local league. 12k and the entire season on it... nah, can't imagine.

let's hope Vale are walking around Wembley with fuck all


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:18:47
Cheers RedRag for the info

Jimmy, you might want to watch the footage yourself. It appeared to me the ball boy was giving the ball back to Conroy and Clarke tried to stop him.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:34:50
agree with the sentiment there, 100%

I guess your order is based on not hitting the target?

A reminder iandolo was what, #7 or was it 8 in the pecking order for a reason. He didn't want one.

McKirdy no excuse but he is at least the reason we were there in the first place. Terrible pen.

Davison worked the keeper. It was his performance over the 2 legs open play that is one of the reasons we aren't in the final.

The pressure of pens .. it's  bad enough with a man and his dog watching local league. 12k and the entire season on it... nah, can't imagine.

let's hope Vale are walking around Wembley with fuck all
1. McKirdy:
You've had a shit game. Things weren't working for you. Do the penalty run up properly. Make sure of yourself. This is not the time to be flash.

2. Iandolo:
Work the keeper. Whether you take the first or last penalty. Make sure that if the keeper doesn't save it, it goes in the goal.

3. Davison:
You are a goal scorer. Soft, easily saved, telegraphed penalty.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:37:05
agree with the sentiment there, 100%

I guess your order is based on not hitting the target?

A reminder iandolo was what, #7 or was it 8 in the pecking order for a reason. He didn't want one.

McKirdy no excuse but he is at least the reason we were there in the first place. Terrible pen.

Davison worked the keeper. It was his performance over the 2 legs open play that is one of the reasons we aren't in the final.

The pressure of pens .. it's  bad enough with a man and his dog watching local league. 12k and the entire season on it... nah, can't imagine.

let's hope Vale are walking around Wembley with fuck all
Agree about Davison, also think though alot of people seem to be forgetting Iandolo was a big part in both goals we conceded as well


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:41:22
I can't bring myself to watch the goals back Dean


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:46:42
Time out chaps!

Why is Fuzzy getting grief? He's been explaining the way that processes based upon his knowledge of the police force.


FTR, I wasn't giving Fuzzy grief. More highlighting that on the TEF (and poss wider social media) it can be very easy to dig a hole even when talking some sense. For an easier life I felt it's better the spade is put to one side and a brew had or something :)


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:49:41
That was recent entry into the ranks of the unemployed, Gary Bowyer.
Thanks for the reminder WB.  I've never seen a manager trip a player.  Though PDC gave us quite a number of memories of our own.  

Great support by you and other Teffers on the night by the way.   :pint:


Title: Re: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 16:13:40
Jimmy, you might want to watch the footage yourself. It appeared to me the ball boy was giving the ball back to Conroy and Clarke tried to stop him.
Yep he's essentially tried to nut Conroy and probably scared the shit out of that kid as well.

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Trollope’s Left Foot on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 17:44:01
The FA manage the laws of the game. On the night, PV manager received the sanction of a red card for his actions. Regardless of what the TEF public think, the laws were enforced by the referee and that will probably be the end of it- possible touchline ban for him???
The CPS are very reluctant to become involved in prosecuting offences on a football field as they are covered by the laws of the game and any sanctions deemed fit- yellow/red card, suspensions and in extreme cases, bans from the game for the most serious offences (prevalent at local level for offences of violence/serious assault). If a player/manager has been dealt with by the FA, then for the Police/CPS to become involved is seen as double jeopardy.
Can the Police/CPS investigate/prosecute without a victim complaint? Yes- murder and domestic violence are good examples. Would they look at the Clarke/Conroy incident? I very much doubt it. That kind of behaviour (sadly) happens across most towns at weekends at closing time and unless there were extenuating circumstances, would be dealt with by common sense on the part of the Police- verbal warning/fixed penalty notice.

I served in the Police for 30 years and retired a few years ago.
 I still play football competitively and am a qualified referee and try to see things from all perspectives.

Pitch invasions- don’t get it.
Throwing objects at players- don’t get it.
Flares being let off-don’t get it.
Shithousery on the pitch by any players/managers- don’t get it- just get on with it and win using skill and tactics.

Thursday looked like one performance too many. Let’s get on with supporting the club, players and fellow supporters.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 17:50:36
I am going to make the trite observation that gets trotted out periodically- you don't get that type of behaviour at rugby union matches. 


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 17:53:42
What is it about football that supporters have to be so aggro? Even middle aged and elderly gents who should perhaps know better lose their sh*t over what are, in the grand scheme of things, minor events and occurrences.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:44:13
FTR, I wasn't giving Fuzzy grief. More highlighting that on the TEF (and poss wider social media) it can be very easy to dig a hole even when talking some sense. For an easier life I felt it's better the spade is put to one side and a brew had or something :)
I wasn't meaning you (I don't think). There was some stuff a few pages back that I initially bit my tongue on. Then, we seemed to be going that way again.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:31:35
I am going to make the trite observation that gets trotted out periodically- you don't get that type of behaviour at rugby union matches. 
I call bollocks.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/brutal-fight-erupts-rugby-crowd-23951928

https://inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-league-crowd-trouble-super-league-championship-anti-social-behaviour-fights-flares-1565413

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/welsh-police-rant-about-nightmare-rugby-fans-being-worse-than-football-supporters-42765

HTH.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:45:27
I call bollocks.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/brutal-fight-erupts-rugby-crowd-23951928

https://inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-league-crowd-trouble-super-league-championship-anti-social-behaviour-fights-flares-1565413

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/welsh-police-rant-about-nightmare-rugby-fans-being-worse-than-football-supporters-42765

HTH.

Super League is RL.

Not sure a handful of incidents found by a quick Google search are of much assistance on that point.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:57:35
I wasn't meaning you (I don't think). There was some stuff a few pages back that I initially bit my tongue on. Then, we seemed to be going that way again.

Yeah. Was mostly (poss selfishly) covering my own arse in case of getting dragged into a future potential spat (not necessary by yourself) but I thought it best to mention that sometimes even when someone has a sound opinion/approach, others still might not be able to absorb that POV at that particular time. Understandably so if they feel a certain misjudgement has occured. Sometimes we all need to take stock, take a step back, look at the wider parts and ultimately take a few moments to breathe :)


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:06:19
Super League is RL.

Not sure a handful of incidents found by a quick Google search are of much assistance on that point.

The last link is union.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:13:30
Would they look at the Clarke/Conroy incident? I very much doubt it. That kind of behaviour (sadly) happens...


I think the OP "CWIG" (I think) was referring to an incident regarding some young children and a female who were physically attacked at the match. Their main concern being that it appeared the duty plod didn't seem to be concerned that the incident had occured right in front of them.

When asking on here if that was correct, Fuzzy (former plod like yourself) responded in what was possibly the "official" answer and possibly with a little bit of outdated opinion regarding victims having to report crimes for there to be a case. Things then got a little "ACAB"-ish as for CWIG this obviously wasn't what they wanted to hear having likely witnessed said incident. Fuzzy, of course kept an official type of stance and I think this is the key point...it's possible a little empathy was lost amongst the officialness. Now I'm pretty certain that empathy doesn't prevent crime or appear too many times in many law book but I think it can go a long way when it comes to preventing an escalated scenario.

Whilst being technically correct is great, sometimes it's right to be humanly correct too. This is where I think things got a bit muddy and bleh. Hence me suggesting that an exercise in continued hole digging (even if technically correct for the most part) wouldn't be the best course of action at that moment in time :)


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:14:11
The last link is union.

I would suggest that one report probably doesn't equate with decades' worth of (continuing) disorder.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:14:54
Super League is RL.

Not sure a handful of incidents found by a quick Google search are of much assistance on that point.
I disagree.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:15:36
The last link is union.
you are right but rugby is rugby.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:17:53
I disagree.

Ok I have no desire to have any impact on the view you hold on this topic.  The contrast is night and day.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:20:19
I would suggest that one report probably doesn't equate with decades' worth of (continuing) disorder.

http://en.espn.co.uk/europeanchallenge/rugby/image/96153.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/04/07/time-separate-fans-embrace-away-ends-rugby/

https://www.ruck.co.uk/police-launch-scathing-attack-on-rugby-fans/

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2018-03-20/calls-to-crackdown-on-drunk-fans-at-rugby-match-days

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=127328

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ashton-gate-bans-varsity-fixtures-29188

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/b381bd/are_rugby_fans_pretentious_unpopular_opinion/

Is that enough?


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:23:06
http://en.espn.co.uk/europeanchallenge/rugby/image/96153.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/04/07/time-separate-fans-embrace-away-ends-rugby/

https://www.ruck.co.uk/police-launch-scathing-attack-on-rugby-fans/

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2018-03-20/calls-to-crackdown-on-drunk-fans-at-rugby-match-days

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=127328

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ashton-gate-bans-varsity-fixtures-29188

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/b381bd/are_rugby_fans_pretentious_unpopular_opinion/

Is that enough?

Nope.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:50:04
Love the pic  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:51:43
Quote from: JBZ
Love the pic  :girlgiggle:

no you don't ;)


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and match
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:56:58
no you don't ;)

Oh yes I do  ;D


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:57:59
It's not pantomime season😀


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pantomime dame on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 11:06:51
oh yes it is


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 12:44:22
Rugby is a bit shit. That's just my opinion of course but you only have to look at the amount of people who go. Prem averages 12000


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 15:27:12
All cops ARE bastards though.


Title: Re: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 15:55:19
you are right but rugby is rugby.
That sort of talk cost's lives in Lancashire...


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 16:42:45
City invade the pitch. Looks fairly happy in tone, but only takes a couple of idiots to go after players, etc. Police seem to have done a reasonable job getting people off, etc.


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 16:50:14
All cops ARE bastards though.

You bloody tinker  :D


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFCBird on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:49:45
I see there is a phone in on Radio 2 now! Jeremy vine is looking for people to phone in if they have been involved in a recent pitch invasion if anyone went to the vile game wants to have a moan


Title: Re: Port Vile v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFCBird on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:50:54
Absolutely, I blame him for stirring up the shit even more, he should be banned for a fucking season for inciting violence.

PS welcome back Lucy :)

Thank you :)