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Title: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 08:29:13
We've had our say on Garner. 

There are variables, I know, but here's a chance to predict where he will take us. 

Poll ends in 4 days.  I'm chickening out till I've seen tonight's game.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 08:42:22
11th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 08:44:28
8th - 12th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 08:49:51
13th.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 08:50:36
Some good teams below us with games in hand and I can't really see us scoring enough, consistently enough to put a run together.

Hope I'm wrong but think we'll end with a whimper.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:03:35
Who knows really, we appear to have basically a new defence and 50% new strike force, could go many ways once bedded in.

Would have been interesting to compare the results of this if a similar survey had ben done before the season started.


Title: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:11:28
10th.

but we could easily win our next 2 and I'd give a different answer.

or lose them


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:18:34
Tranmere, apparently are a bit of a flat track bully and have only scored 1 goal against teams in the top 8 which surely give us hope.

That said, I think they'll beat us 2-0

Who knows, if we can stop handing teams 1 or 2 goals a game, hand wrapped on a silver platter that is going to make a huge difference. Yes we lost Simpson but we were getting a fair few goals from midfield and McKirdy who are still here, if Davison or Parsons were to kick on?


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:31:48
Who knows, if we can stop handing teams 1 or 2 goals a game, hand wrapped on a silver platter that is going to make a huge difference. Yes we lost Simpson but we were getting a fair few goals from midfield and McKirdy who are still here, if Davison or Parsons were to kick on?

I deleted that post as I had put it in the wrong place!


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:39:21
I think we'll sneak in and finish 7th but lose out in the play-off semi finals as I think we are too much of a soft touch. I have a feeling we might end the season quite strongly with Payne coming back from injury, Reed back from his 'rest' and the new players hopefully gelling. It's all a bit 'nearly' and disjointed currently but I've a bit of faith we'll turn around this blip. That said, it wouldn't at all surprise me if we fella away feebly and ended the season in 12th or something. I think we have too good a squad for that in all honesty.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:51:22
9th to 13th.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 11:56:19
12th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 12:14:21
7th.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 12:28:21
9th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: wazzared on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 12:29:46
10th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 13:15:10
6th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: adje on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 13:33:04
An agonising eighth


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: pantomime dame on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 13:37:16
Bottom half. The home record is now unredeemable. Away form starting to wobble. A manager who sees results as an irratation. We stay up and that was the hope in August.
Job done.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 14:22:19
Top ten but miss out...8th 9th 10th.

We have a Club - Check

We arent going out the League - Check


Hope im wrong...starting tonight, im just setting off on a 'work' trip.



Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 15:07:21
I am sure Reg would have the stats to hand, finishing outside the top 7 in this division would be one of our worst seasons ever I think.  Sad that I think we will likely finish 8th or 9th, and that would be OK given the context.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 16:22:16
I am sure Reg would have the stats to hand, finishing outside the top 7 in this division would be one of our worst seasons ever I think.  Sad that I think we will likely finish 8th or 9th, and that would be OK given the context.

This is our worst, apparently:

Lowest League position   

17th, Division Four, 1983-84


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 20:59:22
My 12th shout is starting to look optimistic.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:05:12
I meant to say 16th


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:08:44
This is our worst, apparently:

Lowest League position   

17th, Division Four, 1983-84

Remember it well. The most games I ever watched in a season, 34. Often on Friday nights in the driving northern rain.

You lot don't know you're born.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:11:37
Under 3000 crowds


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:14:05
Under 3000 crowds
Yep. Last game is away at Walsall so not many home fans at all


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:29:29
So anybody reconsidering their earlier vote?


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:32:42
Shame mid-table isn't an option. Because that's where I think we will be.

There are a lot of 'not so good' teams out there. When we play well we can beat anyone, but the thing we have to learn is how to play poorly and win - or not lose. I think we will improve in that regard.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 22:50:40
I’d say between 10th & 15th.

Just glad that we have just about enough points to stay up already, because I struggle to see where many more are coming from.

Hopefully we can beat Scunthorpe on Saturday


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 07:48:13
I'm an optimist.

Was considering "play off loser" and have now modified this to "top half".  

Injuries could play a part.  However, with Reed and Payne to return (helping to keep Williams fresh) alongside some decent new January defenders, there really is no barrier on the playing side to making the playoffs.  Jury is out on Davison for now but I recall Simpson having had to endure criticism early doors.

If any of the squad or management believe making up 4 points at this stage of the season is unlikely then that would be a very serious problem.  

Clem will certainly be giving Garner the opportunity to right this wobble, so we shall see for ourselves what Garner has learned from his past experiences as manager.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: wazzared on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 09:07:06
10th

I said 10th - voted top half but i'm starting to worry now. Its mad how a good season can change. A month ago we were 5th/6th with games in hand over the teams around us but now its the other way and we're just slipping into nothingness.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: normy on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 09:21:22
The drop in results is mainly due to the loan system, whereby we lost some of our best players in the New Year. It can utterly upset the standard of play as in our case.  It would be good for the lower leagues if a full season contract was in force, so that loan players couldn't be recalled by parent clubs, but that won't happen will it.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 13:20:50
The drop in results is mainly due to the loan system, whereby we lost some of our best players in the New Year. It can utterly upset the standard of play as in our case.  It would be good for the lower leagues if a full season contract was in force, so that loan players couldn't be recalled by parent clubs, but that won't happen will it.

No, so maybe teams should recruit accordingly.  If you use loan players, maybe have them as the sprinkles on top, not the backbone of your success.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 13:33:41
No, so maybe teams should recruit accordingly.  If you use loan players, maybe have them as the sprinkles on top, not the backbone of your success.

Unfortunately this season we didn't have a lot of choice. Hopefully next season we will be able to build a team that isn't quite so reliant on loans, or if we are adamant of going down that route, make sure there are clauses which don't allow recalls on Season Long Loans (I am not sure if bigger teams would even contemplate such a thing)


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 16:52:57
Taking all things into consideration AND I mean ALL things but at the same time trying to avoid the ‘look where we were back in August’ type statement I think that if we end up mid table with Garner still in charge that will be like having a nicest iced bun you could ever imagine. However, the cherry on top is thwarting Pee Lower from raising our club to the ground with no come back whatsoever.

Every week we grow stronger, that bastard and his goons must be seething even more. That for me makes our season a success. There is more, I think we can still make the play offs, though I feel that we’ll lose in the semi’s, which for me will be a blessing. I don’t think we would win at Wembley in the final, I Just don’t.

Next season in L2 we should with the right recruitment and a no points deduction from any sanctions be favourites for promotion with a well put together squad with our own players and a smattering of loans who if recalled wouldn't adversely effect our promotion push.

So to summarise, fuck you Pee Lower, we will be around long after your sorry corpse has rotted into compost or been BBQ’d to ashes. That is success.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: AMayesIng on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 21:58:11
Voted 'Top Half'. In other news; have a guess where we finish in this list of 'League 2 squad value':
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/revealed-the-market-value-of-every-league-two-squad-including-hartlepool-united-bradford-tranmere-rovers-and-salford-city-3559893


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 22:18:19
Johnny Williams valued at £740,000

but but but


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:03:35
At the Banks Stadium, Walsall.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:05:21
Johnny Williams valued at £740,000

but but but

That list is ridiculous. Apparently Jonathan Grounds is Exeter's most valuable player!


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:23:26
That list is ridiculous. Apparently Jonathan Grounds is Exeter's most valuable player!

Why is top of the table at the bottom of the list, why have they included loan players, what are the values based upon, pointless clickbait really.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:29:20
Why is top of the table at the bottom of the list, why have they included loan players, what are the values based upon, pointless clickbait really.

Which worked as I read the whole bloody article!


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: normy on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 11:30:28
Taking all things into consideration AND I mean ALL things but at the same time trying to avoid the ‘look where we were back in August’ type statement I think that if we end up mid table with Garner still in charge that will be like having a nicest iced bun you could ever imagine. However, the cherry on top is thwarting Pee Lower from raising our club to the ground with no come back whatsoever.

Every week we grow stronger, that bastard and his goons must be seething even more. That for me makes our season a success. There is more, I think we can still make the play offs, though I feel that we’ll lose in the semi’s, which for me will be a blessing. I don’t think we would win at Wembley in the final, I Just don’t.

Next season in L2 we should with the right recruitment and a no points deduction from any sanctions be favourites for promotion with a well put together squad with our own players and a smattering of loans who if recalled wouldn't adversely effect our promotion push.

So to summarise, fuck you Pee Lower, we will be around long after your sorry corpse has rotted into compost or been BBQ’d to ashes. That is success.

Good summary, agree 100%


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 12:41:57
Previous Results:

Automatics    - 1 (1.6%)
Play Off winners    - 4 (6.3%)
Play Off losers    - 9 (14.1%)
Top Half    - 43 (67.2%)
Bottom Half    - 7 (10.9%)

-----------------------------------------------------------

Reset the poll to see the changes after the last 3 games... I was 8th - 12th and changing my prediciton to playoff losers.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 12:44:55
I'm holding firm until I've seen how we do in the next 2.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 14:54:01
Considering this is the TEF, I thought there would have been the options of either;

  • In Your Mum
or
  • In Your Nan

I guess the TEF has matured after all  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 18:43:56
Considering this is the TEF, I thought there would have been the options of either;

  • In Your Mum
or
  • In Your Nan

I guess the TEF has matured after all  :soapy tit wank:
Yeah looks it


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: dalumpimunki on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 22:29:05
I'm sticking with my vote for top half on the basis that even if we win the league I'll still claim I was right as that's still in the top half of the table.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, February 25, 2022, 07:33:56
3rd.
We miss 2nd on goal difference and beat 4th on goal deference.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, February 25, 2022, 07:41:58
I'm sticking with my vote for top half on the basis that even if we win the league I'll still claim I was right as that's still in the top half of the table.

Big Brain time


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 25, 2022, 09:28:46
Yeah looks it

 :girlgiggle: One of the options contains the word bottom!  :girlgiggle: :moon:


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, February 25, 2022, 14:52:44
:girlgiggle: One of the options contains the word bottom!  :girlgiggle: :moon:

Fjnarr fjnarr!! ;)


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: dalumpimunki on Friday, February 25, 2022, 18:06:56
Fjnarr fjnarr!! ;)

Is that how they spelt it in the Norwegian version of Viz?


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, February 25, 2022, 20:28:39
Is that how they spelt it in the Norwegian version of Viz?

No. Finland edition ;)


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 20:56:05
a lot of games in league 2 tonight. current scores aren't too bad for us but no doubt that will all change. I'm trying to pretend that rovers form doesn't worry me.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 20:59:37
a lot of games in league 2 tonight. current scores aren't too bad for us but no doubt that will all change. I'm trying to pretend that rovers form doesn't worry me.

Just goes to show getting a decent run together can change things. Anyone could have been forgiven in thinking they’d be in a relegation scrap by this time at one point.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 07:36:29
a lot of games in league 2 tonight. current scores aren't too bad for us but no doubt that will all change. I'm trying to pretend that rovers form doesn't worry me.

They’ll go up.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 10:19:57
Yeah I don't like the Rovers grabbing some good results despite not apparently playing very well, they are grinding out wins which is the sign of a team heading for promotion. They are only 1 point behind us now on the same games played.

Interesting to see that Scunthorpe look utterly doomed having played 2 games more than Oldham above them who are 8 points clear of them, with only 3 points seperating the 6 teams above Scunny.

Several results played in our favour last night and we ares till in the hunt with just 2 points between the 4 clubs above us and only 5 points between us and the Cobblers in 2nd place, its wide open and any run of wins will catapault any team up into the autos.

We have a game in hand of Northampton, Tranmere and Newport who are above us but only 1, 4 and 5 point gaps respectively with them.

Win on Saturday and we will be right back in the mix again, hopefully the Barry and McKirdy injuries are not as bad as feared or we will be lacking in attack.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 10:32:38
It’s not even the way they are getting the results. Just the fact they are and have great momentum at the moment.

Us on the other hand it’s feels like a couple of steps forward one back, one forward, two back, 3 forward, 2 back.

Despite (almost) being on exactly the same number of points as Rovers. The difference psychologically is in their favour id suggest, not just with us but with a few teams ahead of us too…


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 11:11:57
Us v gash play off final?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 11:18:43
Us v gash play off final?  :sherlock:

That would be soul destroying.
In fact Us v Anyone in the play off final would be soul destroying…


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 11:38:51
The glimmer of hope is that their run has kicked in too early and they may plateu out somewhat - it's a big ask to keep that kind of run going for as long as they have and still with nearly 3 months to go.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 12:45:17
Revisting this one. I forgot I had predicted us as playoff losers. Going into the playoffs I was extremely confident. Ho hum, Swindon.


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 12:53:56
Looks like I got this one right, should have had a bet on it!


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 12:55:53
I predicted same. Didn't see enough in Garners tactical nouse to win the play offs, but thought we may scrape it, which we did.



Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 15:03:02
I preferred the August thread Head vs Heart.

I still can't get my head in a position to accept targeting safety/bottom half finish. As town fans we haven't had this proposition many times in the last 20 years. We usually go into each season with ambitions of promotion.

I know we are lucky to have the club and our preparations have been terrible. BUT i still can't do it. this is a proper shit league and everyone is making these assumptions without more signings to come.

I refuse to believe it.

swindon are massive everywhere we go  :beers: we always need ambition of promotion. even no players, no manager and no preseason should stop us aiming for promotion from league 2.

just imagine what we would be like with everything in place well in advance of the season starting!


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 15:53:30
I predicted top half so I was right..


Title: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 20:50:50
Shit, I said play off losers. Cool.