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Recalled by Aston Villa

Was always gonna happen. Hell of a player

Where did that come from?

Tansmedia?

I'd feared it after last night.

Regretably added his best defensive performance of the season, to all his other attributes, on national tv.

I'd like to think he might have added a few more goals for the complete package, had he stayed.

Nothing on the Villa forum or Twitter

Wheres this come from?

I would imagine there was break clause but i thought they only last for a week or so

Shame if true

ffs

Hunt back to right wing back then if it happens

Not been confirmed anywhere as far as I can see

I cant find anything anywhere either

not a sniff anywhere.

villa have been recalling players for various reasons but who knows

https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/aston-villa-recall-brad-young-from-carlisle-4399765

I think he would have gone back by now if there was a break clause

I call out bollocks to this one - especially if the OP won’t say where it’s come from.

Indeed, ive seen lots of tweets etc from Villa fans saying bring him back, but nothing to say he has gone back

Any chance of your source in this op? nothing specific, just 'direct from club source', 'mate knows a player', that kind of stuff

The only thing i can think of signing of O’Brien is he is going to be centre back and Rob Hunt goes back to right back? Cant see why we would have signed him otherwise?

I can’t say anything but once someone else confirms it.
I’ll tell everyone I already knew.

Baudry being injury prone
Conroy being injury prone

Add some aerial presence and leadership to the backline.

Didn't Gerrard say recently that if it's going well then their loanees would stay put?

Sent from my CLT-L09

Believe so

This is some excellent trolling by London Pride - Just spent 15 mins trying to work out whether I could search for LP's other 18 posts to see what they are about - Struggled.

I call BS - But I wouldn't be surprised if it happens later in the window and he goes to L1 or Champs.

They may want to see him play at a higher level for the second half of the season with a view towards their first team squad next season.

I thought recalls had to be done in the first week of the window?

Thats what i thought. Find out by tuesday i suspect

Gilbert went back in the first week straight away

I didn't know that.

Given the benefit of the doubt, could it be that they have ‘recalled’ him, as in given notice but allowed him to play last night?

LP has pretty much only posted about transfer rumours. Nothing to see here I think.

Especially as one of them was about Woolery having signed for Blackpool

So has info of him being called back by Villa????

Would be madness to recall him. Yes, he was great last night, but he also has significant weaknesses that need ironing out and last night was his high point with us to date. He irons those out by playing regularly, not in the u23s. And it’s pretty poor form (and don’t believe it would happen) to loan him for a season, only to say “he’s doing well, so he’s off to Rotherham for the 2nd half of the season”). Especially given Garner’s links with their loan manager.

Where does it say Rotherham

It doesn’t. Just an example. Any higher division club. He fits in here. Moving him is a risk.

Cheers, I thought there had been something factual posted.

Think some people are getting a little carried away after last night.

KKH is an extremely talented player who will no doubt go on to have a career in at very least the championship.

However, I prefer to judge players based on how good they are right now and what they bring to the side. After watching the first 2 games of the season, I was convinced KKH would tear this league apart and to be honest, up until now, I've been slightly disappointed by his output when you consider the quality he has.

1 goal and 1 assist this season in 21 games played. Compare that to Wilson at FGR who plays the same position. 9 assists and 2 goals.

Perhaps a slightly unfair comparison considering FGR are sitting pretty at the top, but the eye test backs up his lack of statistics. Very rash in front of goal and in the final third. All of his good work seems to be in the first two thirds of the pitch. It will come in time, no doubt. Maybe even the second half of this season if he stays. He's also had more than his fair share of defensive errors but that's to be expected at his age.

Some decent performances this season (Sutton away, FGR away etc) came when KKH was on international duty. He's not irreplaceable by any stretch. If he was to go, we'd miss his pace and dynamism but I'd trust us to bring in somebody else who can have an impact. Or Hunt back to his natural position.

He was also appalling vs Stevenage and not great vs Northampton. Back to his best for Man City though.

As some others have said, I can’t see it’s in Villa’s best interests to send him elsewhere. Assuming he’s enjoying his time here and Villa think he’s being developed appropriately. If he’s sent to a higher level club he may not be first choice every week, may not settle with the club culture, may not receive good coaching playing the style that Villa would want etc. it would appear to me that risks of making such a change would outweigh any benefits that might come from exposure to a higher league.

Nobody has yet confirmed where the rumour started

Villa could easily do what Rotherham did with Jerry Yates a couple of years ago.  Call him back for Gerrard to have a look at him in training for a couple of weeks with the 1st team and then send him back to us.

You'd like to think Villa's loan set up means they don't do that and know how he is doing but given the profile of Friday's game they could have a closer look.

In a similar way, we called back Harry Parsons from Chippenham which gives an extra player available  it's likely he is back there again before the end of the season.

drops the rumour, buggers off.

I call shenanigans

Confirmed by OS.

Recalled 🙄

Bummer

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/kaine-kesler-hayden-recalled-by-aston-villa/

Good luck to him

Disappointed to lose him, but he's not ready for the Prem. Maybe a L1 loan, wouldn't be totally surprised if he goes to a club with a manager that Gerrard knows (Critchley still at Blackpool?). Great game the other day, but that's not really representative of his general performances.

Such is the risk of relying on loans I guess.

Really think that is pretty idiotic on Villa's part. He's not ready for the Prem or Championship and is getting regular football at Swindon which he might not get elsewhere.

agreed it isn't great but his end product hasn't been good enough, he gets in the right place but doesn't deliver quality enough. It's a big lose for a league 2 team but can't see his level is much above it at the moment until he improves his end product.

I heard about this from a mate at the club after the match ;)

Massive shame that, really hoped we’d have him for the season. All the best to the lad, a brilliant talent.

That’s a shame for both us and him. Sadly I think Villa have got this wrong if the intention is to loan him to a Champ or League 1 club. He was progressing here quite nicely. Ah well, good luck to the young man

Might be a blessing in disguise. Get Hunt back at RB - he’s in great form atm - Giant Haystacks in as CB.

I’d be happy with that. Maybe it’ll hurry along Barry.

Disappointed but wish him well.

As has been suggested maybe it is just a case of Villa wanting to look at him?

If that is the case maybe we can get him back later in Jan.

He didn’t always have the end product but did offer a lot. I’m sure he would be more than okay at league one or championship level but not sure he would play week in week out at the latter.

In any case I will watch his career with interest and I expect him to mature into a good premier league player in due course.

I said it on here a few weeks ago, superb at the start, but he hasn’t been as good since. Granted he was good on Friday, but we have Hunt who can come in to his favoured position now.

Good luck to the lad, They are extremely short at RB so i wouldnt be suprised to see him go into their squad. I have no doubt he will have a top career and despite some dodgy performances i have a feeling he is one of those players that need to be paying at a better level to play to their best level

Good luck to him. I think he will look even better playing with better quality players. Definitely not ready for the premier league yet but could do a job at a lower end championship side or any league 1 team.

Good for him,truthfully. However,too inconsistent for me to worry too much about it

Oh I think you’re being a bit harsh. Premier league? No, championship? Yes. He will flourish in the relight team environment. Besides he only has from Feb to May to see how he does get on if indeed they do send him to another club. They may just have him train with their premier league squad to see how he does and put him into selected development u23 games. Many possibilities. Yes he did do a number Jesus but it is consistency that AV will be looking for. Playing alongside and at L2 cloggers in comparison he’s not going to improve much more, he needs to be with an up against much, much better players and teams. Good luck to the boy, been a privilege to have watched him develop  here.

A class act for a young lad, genuine, committed, level headed and who knows what he can achieve in the game with the right coaching and it's no coincidence that he had his best game against quality opposition proving he's good enough even though he has lots to learn.

Good luck KKH and thanks for your contribution to STFC

Completely agree. That match on Friday was by far his best performance for us and certainly not reflective of his overall contribution. Still, he had some really good performances and always gave his all! Good luck to him, a star in the making

I don’t contribute to forum very often but when I do it’s because I have something of real importance that I know will be of real interest to you all.
Sad day as he was possibly our best attacking option down that right side.

Yeah, week old news.
Let him stay for City.

Friday's performance might be reflective of him spending most of his time defending, which he seems quite good at when it's his main focus, rather than being asked to be a lower league TAA, which he's perhaps not up to.

Possibly. I think young players develop much quicker by playing regular football week in week out in. U-23s is a poor substitute. Not convinced that he'll start every week in the Championship. Villa might be able to find a L1 club who play good football but obviously no guarantees of that. Perhaps Villa simply have squad problems with Covid and need bodies. Good luck to him. Not as disappointed at his departure as some of our previous loan players. Hunt has played pretty well at RWB for us. I think Swindon will have a strong reputation again as a good place to send skilful players out on loan.

Despite our creative midfield and KKH's offensive abilities, I felt there was something left behind in how that gelled.  For example, I would have loved to have seen more passes to KKH on the inside of retreating full backs.  Having said that, he generally rather hurried his big opportunities.

By comparison, Hunt has driven me mad at times the way he eventually keeps on turning back whenever in space and dampening any offensive momentum.  That aside, he doesn't waste much and I doubt there is a better defensive full back in League 2.  That is perhaps one STFC priority for the second half of the season.

So no massive loss to us, hopefully.  And an opportunity for a whole hearted and extremely talented young player to develop at a higher level at which he is undoubtedly capable of thriving.

sorry Mr pride

obviously we didn't want to believe the post, and so anyone not 'known' perhaps gets unfair scrutiny

don't be put off posting any other news

You've certainly been vindicated on this occasion.  Albeit unfortunately.

Would you say you are an ITK supporter?  :sherlock:

Bringing O'Brien in makes sense now.

All the best to KKH.

Season long loans aren't really what they say on the tin are they.

Even at u23 level, the premier league is not a bad door to walk through to get into a regular PL first team. Though I do agree with you about regular football. Still I don’t think in the bigger picture we have done ourselves no harm with putting us back amongst the fray in attracting up and coming players from further up the food chain to further our own ambitions whilst we build our club up from the bottom again.

Thats for letting us have the chance to watch you in a Swindon shirt, there is no doubt you will become a good player in time, you showed glimpses of a raw attacking talent but work a bit more on the defensive side when you go out on loan to a higher division club.

Quit the silly dives in the box looking for a penalty and stay on your feet son, you have the ability to do that, don't try and con refs as they don't ever fall for it.

Improve your shooting as you get into some great positions with your pace.

You played probably 4 or 5 good games for us culminating in your best game being on Friday, you were caught out defensively a few times by not great players but held your own against Man City for sure, theres huge room for improvement in quality, defending and consistancy but at times you were head and shoulders above the rest of the players on the pitch.

Thanks for the 5 months you gave us and good luck with the rest of your hopefully long and successful career.

Was outstanding on the first day of the season at Scunthorpe away.

Has shown glimpses of that form at times through the season, culminating in another really good performance on Friday.

Has been a very good loan for us, and wish him all the best for the future

Hunt isn’t a straight swap - we are going to need either a forward thinking left or right wing back, and left Hunt (or Iandolo) play on the other side.

A spot on assessment in my view PV

Sad to see him leave, but not surprised. The City game proved he just wasn't suited to this level, after 2 fairly poor months with us in the league. He needs to be tested against footballers week in week out, not the cloggers in this league.

All the best for the future KKH. If your next loan move doesn't work out, and we get out of this shit league, then maybe well see you again next season.

A bit of tweaking in his style and more game time getting him better in quality and there is no doubt he will be talked about in the same breath as Milner, Carrick and Given etc.

Good luck to the lad. As others have said; looked like our best player in the first few games of the season; then fell away a lot; until the City game. Onwards and upwards; always a risk with loanees

Good luck KKH - he showed flashes of genius but so often lacked end product.  Great game against Man City has caught the eye but to add balance for villa supporters who think he is ready

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11750/12491536/barrow-2-0-swindon-ollie-banks-josh-gordon-score-penalties

I fear villa have misjudged where he is at off one display.  That said wish him all the best wherever he ends up and just hope he is afforded game time as that is what he needs.

I would be inclined to agree with this but I understand it was agreed prior to the game on friday that he would go back.

Maybe they will send him out to a league one club like Sunderland which would be a fantastic move for his development. I can't remember the game where he was kicked around the pitch and Garner commentated on how many bruises he had and that's he had no protection from the referee. Maybe Villa don't want him playing against those sort of league 2 teams anymore. 

Harrogate at home.

Villa would have watched every game that he played for us - this would have been planned from late last year, and the only reason it didn't happen on the 2nd Jan was because of City.

Villa have recalled most of their loan players. Suspect gerrard wants to see them up close, and possibly to act as cover for Covid. Won’t be completely suprised if KKH is back by the end of the month

his best bits are composure under pressure and confidence to take it past people with skill and pace.

his bads bits are positioning, crossing and shooting.

the first games i was in awe of him, he has cost us goals and im sure the ball boys will be pleased to not have to go retrieve his efforts over the town end. he has contributed to our league position and with our cup rule so will be grateful for what he has done. on his day he has been brilliant and im sure we will look back in years to come and think we were where it all started.

a young lad learning and still has lot's to learn but the potential is there for sure

Oh well. The nature of loan players. We move on.

Massive over reaction on social media. You'd of thought Villa have recalled Pele.

Decent player, massive future. However, 1 assist and 0 league goals. Switches off defensively. We will survive.

His 2 best games for us were in the Cup.

In the context of 2 years ago- this recall is minor. Doubt we sell out the County Ground for KKH's return

It is a shame he has been recalled, he has done well for us and we will need to replace him, for a young lad who has got his first loan he has done well

I think you are probably right there. I did read that Villa had recalled him to loan him out at League 1/Championship level which makes sense if they can already see significant progress at us in League 2. He is clearly a talented player but did blow hot and cold. Would have preferred to have him until the end of the season, of course, but that's the risk with loan players.

Hope for his sake he doesn’t end up in a position like Matt Smith did last year, being loaned out to a club where he’s sat on the bench more often than not.

According to Garner Villa haven’t recalled him with a view to loaning him out again. It’s to see if he can get in Villa’s squad. He said there is a possibility he could return to STFC later this month - like Doyle.

‘Asked if Kesler-Hayden could come back before the end of the window should he require a little more development, Garner said: “I think that’s a possibility.

“The conversations that we’ve had are that they’ve taken Kaine back to see where he’s at, it’s not a case of taking him back and loaning him elsewhere.

“If Kaine can do that and play in the Premier League for Aston Villa then fantastic.

“There are two reasons we bring loan players in – one being to help us as a team. And secondly, to help them develop and go on to play at their parent club.

“If he can do that at Aston Villa, brilliant. If they don’t think he’s quite ready, then we’d obviously welcome him back with open arms.”

All sounds rather Yatesque

When i heard the news first, i did have a feeling of that Yates situation and wouldn't be totally surprised if he came back here after being looked at for whatever reason. Difference this time being that his stock is obviously much higher than yates from Rotherham at the time, so felt the most likely outcome would be him going back out to a club at a higher level. I don't think he's ready for the prem just yet. Interesting that Garner doesnt think he'll be going back out to a different club.

As much as elements of his game (such as crossing, general composure in final 3rd, closing down) would frustrate, the positives well outweighed the negatives. You'd do well to find another player at league two with his athleticism and natural ability with the ball at his feet, with the benefit of him only likely to improve on his weaknesses. As much as i love rob hunt, he's not going to give that level of threat as a RWB, so it'll be interesting to see what we do without KKH.

Would be great if he does end up back here in a couple of week's time.