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Not much to say about this. Hopefully some kids will get a chance and the deadwood cast afloat

I'm off out tomorrow, if anyone wants a code PM me ( and see a shrink 🤣)

Oh yeah, hope the are some spontaneous protests against the fat mockney prick.

Season finished last week. Just some practice matches left.

All to play for in the prediction League!

Not sure I would wish that on anyone

 :pope:

Oops.. Think he's too old for the clergy anyways

Match is paid for so I will watch but not pay it much attention, I hope he experiments with the line up, the result is really immaterial, just don't give up so easily like last week at Dongs.

Swindon 0-4 Ipswich.

Got a free link, but might have a few hours work. Need the money.

I might take the code if ok with you Batch?

I'll take a free ST code if there's one flying about too.

You lot are absolutely bonkers wanting to watch that, even if it is free!

End of the season games where there's nothing left to play for and the fringe players get a go are often quite fun to be fair, more interested in this week's game than last week.

That said, I'm more likely to watch the Loathed Strangers game - at least the pay to play players there are fully disclosed ;)

In a strange way I still enjoy my 2 hours watching STFC at 3 on a Saturday. Yes its crap that we lose all the time and are generally garbage but for me that's what being a fan is all about. It is a shame the money goes into LP's pocket.

Yeah Saturday isnt Saturday without Swindon playing, it just feels weird without watching it if we are playing.

Win, lose or draw its still my club, I have seen worse siutations than this (although not many) and I am sure it could even get worse than this if things don't happen soon, doesn't stop me wanting to watch it though.

Bob. YGM

Sorry panda, he was in first and only have 1

Watch? How?

Edit: oh. Just saw, hopefully via YouTube

Hoping to have it shown on YouTube via the Swindon-town-fc.co.uk account.

Thanks

No worries at all mate! I'm sure there are more ST holders who won't be watching......

Probably will turn out to be another pointless game for the Town,   0-3 to Ipswich for me.

Curran MoM

1-3 defeat

I know results don't matter now but it would be a bonus to see Rovers relegated at the foot of the table. We could even drag Wigan down.

Rather have Rochdale down with us than Wigan, who’d likely be more of a force next season.

I was thinking the same.

On holiday so won't be watching or reporting after the game. Time for someone else to shine please?

Might watch it later in the evening though - You can do that on ifollow can't you?

0-1 zzzzz

I like the optimism that expects us to be at the better end of the table next season.

Yep it appears that recent experience rarely informs the expectations of some supporters

Or the minus 15 point start

Thanks Batch. Will be donating to the Loathed Strangers charity so because of your generosity the stake will be doubled.

Always a poignant moment when the names of the fallen are read out before the final home game.
Still a pity that we won't be there, even though pretty everything about this season has been truly abysmal.

With a crowd in, doubt that the atmosphere at the end of the game would be conducive for the half hearted lap of dishonour by the squad and management.
I thank the players for their efforts anyway, it's not been entirely their fault as to how the season has panned out.

Having fans in might have meant an extra point being squeezed out here and there but maybe still not enough.
The overall home league record for the last 6 seasons has been:-
W55 D27 L51 F180 F176.

I fear that the new manager may have to make do with a 450 watt Omni 5 microwave when it comes to sorting out the recruitment in August.

This might be an historical moment, if it's the last home match of STFC ever in Division One, therefore I'll watch it in case. 

I’ve just watched Town’s FA Cup 4th Round 1-1 v West Ham at a well-churned Upton Park on The Big Match Revisited.

So, to rekindle the fighting spirit of Easton et al, I’ll go for an unrealistic 1-1 this afternoon.

I've be watched that a few times and can't believe how friendly the players are at corners with no holding or cuddling!

It’s great seeing the grounds, fashions, ads, refereeing etc and hearing the chants, such as “Argentina Argentina” at White Heart Lane during the early days of Ardiles and Villa. A fab nostalgia-fest.

Yes it's really nice going back in time and even the late 60's before the old Arkells stand was built it's amazing how big the crowds were and how the men dressed as gentlemen wearing shirt & ties

Did I read somewhere that the game maybe live on YouTube or was that aload of trash?

I think you are getting mistaken with tomorrows Prospect match mate.

Cheers JJ

Missilou and Hunt return.

Swindon Town: Camp (GK), Grounds, Pitman (C), Smith, Twine, Payne, Missilou, Palmer, Hunt, Thompson, A. Grant.

Subs: Matthews (GK), Caddis, Garrick, J. Grant, Curran, Broadbent, Hope

Disappointed Harry Parsons hasn't been put on the bench at least today.

Yeah, you'd think he could easily take J Grant's place.

Ditto !  
Also could've given Mathews a run out - would've added a bit of interest, just the same old dross now with nothing to gain !

Disappointing team that, no real interest sparked.

A prime opportunity to give some game time to some youngsters. What a waste.

Nothing to play for and still rolling out the same useless players most of whom we all hope aren’t here next season.

At least there is no Baudry this week

Ipswich have gone more than 9 hours since their last goal.

I will give them 10 mins today to notch their first.

Ffs. This lot can't even do dead rubbers properly. Everyone knows you give some youths a shot. But we play the same tired shit players that have been crap all season. Not surprised really though.

I bet even the ball boys are bored watching the same old sh*t😀

Well here goes nothing.

I wonder if the players will do a lap of honour 😀

Or a walk of shame.

 :clap: :clap:

I predict the shortest ever match day thread

12 mins gone and even JJ has given up😳

Nothing to say mate, its been shit.

I'd be falling asleep if I was watching😀

Payne nice move after disposessing the defender, sets up Pitman who pokes it wide from 15 yards.

Payne giving the most effort as per usual.

Payne is the only one putting in a shift at the moment.

God, I hope Missilou isn’t the mainstay of central midfield next season. Frequently has no idea what is going on. And technique is terrible.

What a terrible signing he was

He is very very poor, he played one great game away at Fleetwood but in every other game he has looked like a non league player at best.

Pretty much like at least nine others out there.

Twine looking totally disinterested today, even compared to the rest of our very disinterested side.

And with that Twine gets a chance and puts it wide after a deflection.

Twine has another shot from distance but its saved.

Shrewsbury equalise against the piss stains, Brovers losing again.

Palmer in open play is rubbish but he can take a good corner.

At least Gas are losing

Wigan equalise at Hull

Dons beating Pompey, looking like bottom four will be the bottom four.

Good block by Camp, to stop a certain goal.

You have to give credit to Burton & Wigan for what they've done

Tractor boys must be shit, 30 minutes and not scored !!.

Jesus - Ipswich miss a sitter from 15 yards totally unmarked which goes 10 yards wide.

Camp another good save but it looked wide.

Not really, all shit, just that us and three others have been even shittier.

Wigan should be thanking us for being stupid enough to take Sheridan off them.

Thompson lucky to still be on the pitch with a booking after raising an elbow to the Ipswich winger.

Easy claim by Camp from a FK near the corner.

Great save with his feet by Camp point blank.

Any sign of Lee Peacock today

Pitman header easily saved.

They haven't done a close up of the dugout yet.

Penalty to them.

11 hour goal drought about to end.

0-1

Grounds is an absolute liability.
Offers fuck all.

That wankstain Grounds again. What a fucking waste of a salary he’s been.

Please tell me he’s OOC

How many pens has Grounds conceded this season?

Well, 44 minutes before we conceded is a long time for us.

I hope this is Grounds last game for us.

Grounds is a complete liabilty. For someone who has played at higher levels he is worse than Curran

They did earlier and I didn’t see him.

We were told he had championship experience 😀

Ipswich striker tripped by his own player then the ball comes through and Camp makes a save and the striker hits hos own player 2 yards out to clear the ball.

HT 0-1

I must have missed that.

If Ipswich could shoot this would be a bigger score than last week!

Ah is that him with the tache and black baseball cap?

Only 1 more game of this shit to come. The club needs to consume a huge vindaloo to achieve a complete clear out.

Knowing our luck the club will be constipated and we're be stuck with the shit for next season

We stopped pressing them, and look knackered already.

Broadbent coming on.

On for Grounds.

One shit defender for another.

He did, selling match day programmes.

Payne nice take and dribble set up Pitman but a defender just gets to it first and gives us a corner.

Twine makes the most of a foul 35 yards out centrally.

Poor strike by Twine.

Another shot by Ipswich wild over the bar, they could easily be 4 or 5 goals up already with better finishing.

Grant is having another poor game.

Payne off for Garrick.

Payne has done well today, a bit of a surprise. Easily our best outfield player today.

0-2

Terrible mistake by Twine.

Twine twattery.

It is indeed.

We are truly awful.
Just be thankful we don’t have to travel to watch it.
The worst Swindon side for a very long time.

Haha Curran to shore up the defence.

Tbf, he can’t be any worse.

Tbh, it really doesn’t matter any more.

Has the demonstration started yet😀

Demonstration how not to play football?

Have we ever had successive hattricks scored against us?

I’m giving my tablet the frowning of a lifetime

 ::) ::)

😂

3

Cottee, Wright and someone else Saunders I think

Not sure which order
No need to tell you which season it was

1-2 Pitman soft goal.

Bit of a comedy goal.

Curran pathetic foul give them a penalty so its a hattrick.

Wide.

Damn right Duke. Even the team that finished 14th in the old div 4 in 84(?) had better players than this

Is this not looking like the highest quality game the ground is going to host this weekend then?

Campbell not Wright for Arsenal but none we consecutive games.

Grant fouled 25 yards out central, chance for Twine.

Poor shot by Twine.

Probably Twines last shot for Swindon at the County Ground with how its looking, after being subbed for Joel Grant.

Replaced, because Joel Grant will save us.

Not watching but just thought I’d have a quick look. Well I see Wright has brought the fraud on, just goes to show he’s every bit as toxic as Sheridan and another I can’t wait to be gone. Is Peacock back in the dugout today or has he just washed his hands of the first team farce?

Jesus wept what a terrible shot by Ipswich clears the Stratton Bank.

Good chance by Garrick sets up Palmer who shoots wide.

He's given away a penalty and was lucky to only be booked. Someone really should put together his highlights reel.

Good block again by Camp.

It’s going to be Camp again by default isn’t it.

A lowlights reel!

Its a shame he wasn't sent off because then he would have been out of contention for next weeks final game!

Wouldn't last long !!

It is between Camp and Payne, but yes it is.

Grounds was worse than Curran

Thats like a willy waving contest between 2 micropenises.

And Grounds’ dad isn’t even paying us. Bastard.

Grant has looked way better in midfield than in defence today.

Both shocking and of equal shiteness.

Anthony Grant I hasten to add as Joel Grant looks way out of his depth wherever he plays.

FT 1-2.

Flacid.

14 home league defeats in a season, 18 in all comps - unmatched.

You'd think every touch of the ball in a Swindon shirt would be admissable in the court case. Just look at this m'lud, this is the only player at the club on a 3 year contract......

Power out

Absolutely shit.
Awful.

Another limp, lame defeat. The hallmark of the worst season I’ve ever seen.

Seems like the scoreline flatters us !!.

Grounds just had more opportunity to display his shitness with 45 mins, Curran squeezed a lot of shitness into 28 minutes.

Is Grounds here next year?

There's always next season

It's over.

POWER OUT

Just shows how poor this division has been this season when BP is in the top 20 of leading goalscorers in league one.

(only Just).   

Power in!!

Nice one lads  :smugfu:

grounds will be gone never to grace the county ground again. : :pint:

 :clap:

Thank fuck the majority of this lot don’t be here next season. I’d probably have Grant A if played as his usual DM. 2 or 3 will go on to better things. The rest can just fuck right off.

Nice one

Sea sea Seasiders....play up Pompey Pompey play up :pint:

Thanks for your continued interest in our club.

Appreciated.

Did the players come back out for a lap of honour after the game?

Tommy Wright "The substitutes that came on made a bit of a difference too."

TBF he's not wrong. They made us appreciably worse.

Enjoy petal.

https://youtu.be/ljGAVr17GWk

Interesting.

Why would he be down here watching Swindon

Playing in the LS Shield tomorrow.

Easy to blame an under fire owner when you’ve been sacked from the job you jumped ship for.

It's quite feasible then and hats off to him for playing in the game

Quite

Can’t believe anyone would believe a word he says after all the crap he fed us before he left.

It can’t be any surprise him saying he’d come back either - he’s currently unemployed and in need of a job.

I fund it hard to believe that he would even be talking about himself if the story is even true

Alternatively, he jumped a sinking ship and saw Salford as an opportunity, close to home and during a pandemic? I’d take him back straight away, can’t see you getting much better manager in L2

what crap did he feed us - sorry, I can't recall

You forgotten about the loyalty lines and then criticising Woolery for lacking ambition for dropping a division?! He literally took us for mugs and now he’s on the managerial scrap heap of course he’s on a PR offensive!

Pics or it didn't happen

I had forgotten the Woolery one.  My take is he was expecting to keep the squad together and being reassured it was in hand.  Then he had the lighbulb moment and jumped ship. I'd welcome him back tomorrow.

Unemployed man would take job.
Well, colour me surprised.

I suspect that this will change if a better or more appealing 'project' comes up at, say, Altrincham or FC United of Manchester.

Was Twine auditioning for a move to Ipswich with that assist for Norwood's second

Personally I'm growing to the idea of Wellens coming back. Now that I know more of the situation behind the scenes with LP and it could very well be true that Wellens was given a nudge by LP to take the Salford job given the compensation that the club/LP would receive. Obviously the details are very sketchy but I'm not totally convinced that Wellens definitely wanted to leave.

Fair play to him for coming down for the charity game, the cynical will say its the least he can do etc but I do believe this club has got under his skin and probably sees a bright future without LP. It was definitely the most that STFC has been for years under Wellens. For many I'm sure now that's been tarnished but I'd rather have Wellens back than some of the options that could see us fall further.

May sounds like it will be an interesting month either way.

Can just hear the conversation now.

Power - ‘Ritchie, look, I’m determined to get the club relegated, be good to get out of Dodge soonest’

Wellens - ‘Don’t want a relegation on my CV and you could do with a few quid’

‘but I do believe this club has got under his skin and probably sees a bright future without LP’ Does make you wonder doesn’t it? Perhaps Clem & Standing have been sounding him out? After all, if they both are that determined to see their investments back they’ll have to wrestle the club from Power and then run it successfully. That requires a good manager and good players.

Did anyone see Wright say something to Curran as he came off the pitch? It was short and to the point. The response the same.

I did wonder the same.

Ultimately regardless of circumstances Wellens managerial CV reads being involved in 2 relegations from league 1 and a sacking by a league 2 club interjected by a good half season in a curtailed season. Add in the way behaved before and during his exit he shouldn’t even be under consideration, he burnt his bridges and his ego was off the scale when he left! Too many of our fans have an obsession with ex players and managers and I just don’t get it.

I wanted Andy King back when he first got unfairly sacked (and I got my wish cunt faces - one man protest). Wellens is a no brainer.

But you’re just a glutton for punishment....

It's hardly an 'obsession'. Surely if someone does a good job - and I don't think that's really up for debate is it - then they have earned the chance to repeat it in my eyes. I'm not naive enough to understand that it might not work second time around but surely given the downward spiral we are on getting Wellens back on paper is less risky than going down a completely new manager route.

He was part of the Power, Jewell & Wright clique and can’t see how he wouldn’t have been complicit it in the whole Curran saga. He’s part of the problem not the solution in my eyes, we need a clean break from anyone associated with the current mob!

He never played Curran though did he?

But I do get where you are coming from and it's understandable given the sorry del boy like saga going on behind the scenes. Who knows what the fuck the truth of the situation is.

What was he supposed to do? Power employs him and if he spills his guts about his boss his future employment would be impaired. Don’t think he ever played him, though. Certainly not in any important game, anyway.

It was down to Wellens we got 13,000 in the CG v Exeter. He galvanised the fan base for sure.

The rumour I heard was that he called Curran out in training. "Don't go acting all billy big bollocks, you're only here because of your dad", to be exact.

But surely he would have said exactly what he was told to say.
  At the time he had to be careful but many things have come out about Power since,  we have heard many things regarding the going ons behind the scenes, none favourable.
  Will be interesting when Power finally goes,  maybe we will be told the bigger picture (or all we can legally be told),    hated him when he left, but after so much coming out since then would have him back tomorrow,  Now that would be a challenge for him to put on his CV.

Put him in the squads though and played him in the pointless trophy matches and even did the photo shoot with Curran when his deal was announced. Too close and matey with Power and Jewell and for me impossible to trust a word he says, in my opinion we need a clean break from anything associated with the current regime.

It's interesting how the passage of time shifts opinions and perceptions

I don’t have faith in Wellens / Jewell to put together a competitive squad that’s good enough.

It would be interesting to see if someone could generate a poll

It will be even more interesting to see who is available to fill the managers role when the ownership dispute is finally settled!

Now you're going into the unknown😀

Corrected for you -  It will be even more interesting to see who wants to fill the managers role when the ownership dispute is finally settled !.

Meanwhile what happens if It isn't sorted out before August..... :eek:

we continue where we left off this season .......... Until the fat cunt goes.

Exactly and worse still with Wright maybe in charge

How could it possibly be any worse ??    :D :D :D.

We thought he was leaving after the Wigan game😀

Fans are far too precious - like being concerned about a City a few miles away.  Wellens had something about him that worked for us, I'd have him back, couldn't give a shit if he'd pulled his trousers down and showed his ass on the way out last time.

Or maybe some people just are not interested in a bottler?

Same for me Rob.

If fans knew the whole story why he left then they might be more understanding and welcome him back

And the whole story is..??

Exactly none of us know and many assume that they do

I still don't think anyone knows to be honest. I guess the latest chapter is that Wellens was pushed towards the Salford job so we/LP could get compensation from them. Wellens could have refused of course but it would have been an uncomfortable working environment.

Maybe, maybe not.

But we can only go on what we do know and, going from what little knowledge I do have, I think he's a bottler. Fuck all to do with being 'precious' or whatever. I think the guy bottled when the going got rough and would likely do it again. Hence why I don't want him here again.

"I didn't want a relegation on my C.V"

Not a dig at you Jimmy, but there's an air of sanctimony about some and it fucking grates.

But hey ho. It seems some people must know my feelings better than I do. Impressive, eh?

There is a whole footballing world out there.  I don't see the attraction in hankering after a former manager.

Valid points Flasheart and even if he did come back I'm not sure that I would welcome him back but I'm still hedging my bets that there was more to him leaving than us fans will ever know about unless of course later on he wants to write a autobiography!

Let see hope that it's a different chairman going through the applicants

Seen as we all (rightfully) despise Power it’s very easy to construct the narrative that he forces Wellens to go or Wellens left because of a poor working relationship with Power.

That may or may not be true, partially true or completely false.


However, I don’t think it matters too much because I think Wellens would have still taken the opportunity to leave - even if everything had been good at boardroom level. Firstly because he knew he’d put together a poor squad and secondly for his family life.

Macari, Ardilies, Hoddle, Todd, Evans, Wise.....they all left once there was a better offer on the table.

...how many of those dropped down a division?

The principles are the same as we all know money talks

If they bottled then they are also bottlers, so I'm not sure of what point you're trying to make.

The circumstances were somewhat different, however. They were mostly moving on to further their careers - which I get. I don't think they necessarily bottled it because things got difficult which is what I think of Wellens.

Hoddle left to manage Chelsea FFS!

Plus most of them left us with a better squad than when they joined.

Hoddle could have stayed for another season but chose to jump ship as soon as Chelsea came calling. He was only 38/39 so the opportunity would have still have been there next time around and it's not as if it was his beloved Spurs that came calling.
Either way Wellens going to Salford and Hoddle to Chelsea both thought it was a better career move.

Hoddle was signed to Chelsea after his injury at Monaco, it's was always on the cards that he would go back after his success with Swindon

And, again, I think Wellens just bottled it as soon as things got tough. Which is why I' don't want him back - I think he'd do the same again.

I might be wrong to think that, but it is the reason behind me not wanting him back (despite what others might claim), and what Hoddle or any other manager has done in the past doesn't change that.

Comparing Wellens to those 3 is laughable, all left to manage big clubs and challenge themselves further, even Wise left for Leeds who are a massive club.
Wellens went backwards to what he thought was his comfort blanket and another easy promotion and it failed miserably, he just cared about his ‘CV’. I’m with Flash, he bottled it didn’t fancy the hard work of sorting out the mess he helped create.

But did Wellens know more about Powers shenanigans and decide that he didn't want anything to do with it plus he knew the funds weren't there and was openly frustrated when there were no signings at the end of the first transfer window.

Wellens didn’t bottle it. He simply went to a club with more financial clout and who in the short term at least have better prospects then Swindon to progress up the EFL (mainly due to their owners).

If Wellens stayed at Swindon we would have comfortably stayed up this season. Whilst defensively we looked bad during his time as manager in league 1, at least we attacked with purpose and looked like scoring in most matches.  We would have taken the lead on far more matches this season and then held on for wins or get draws.

Wellens was always honest and upfront with the fans and knew what it would take for Swindon to get promoted out of league 1. He managed to get us out of league 2 when no one expected us to do anything.

If you ask managers from the championship to league 2 if they would prefer to manage Salford or Swindon with a view to a long term project then I would be surprised if more then 5% of the managers would want to manage Swindon. Absolute no brainier to manage Salford. Really don’t understand why our fans don’t get that.

Exactly that plus at the time he knew the club he was joining had plenty of money and was stable.

We’ll never know whether he’d of kept us up as he bottled it rather than proving himself in hope of an easy job.

As for honest and upfront do me a favour he was literally stringing us along towards the end spouting crap about loyalty whilst engineering his exit.

I don't agree.

But I'm not going to try and convince anybody I'm right. I responded to point out that I think he did bottle and THAT is my reason for not wanting him back. Again, I might be wrong to hold that opinion but it is the opinion that I hold.

To be absolutely clear: I don't want him back because I think he's a bottler and I think he would bottle again.

I know I'm repeating myself, but I've made my opinion quite clear in the past (as have others) only to get snide digs about being 'precious', or 'jilted lovers', and other such comments that have been bandied about since he's gone. Perhaps if I repeat it enough then more people will realise that myself and others genuinely hold the opinions we claim to hold and that perhaps, maybe, we know what our thoughts are better than other people do?

Otherwise, those people can just fuck right off.

Fair enough. I personally would love to have Wellens back. At least we played good football and I think he would give it a right go at getting us promoted again. He engaged with the fans and is the complete opposite of Sheridan. He knows what it takes to get a team promoted from this league and just needs time to build a squad.

If he does well for Swindon again then it’s likely a club with a more attractive long term plan will come and swoop for him. That is part and parcel of football and if other teams are interested in our manager then it means we are doing well as a club.

Assume by Evans you mean Roy Evans? He didn't leave because there was a better offer on the table, he left because he had been brought in by Donnegan and Blatchley and when they were forced out by legal action by SSW, Carson et al, the new board informed Evans that the club was hugely in debt and he would have no money to work with, so he resigned as he didn't believe he could take the club forward and didn't want his own wages to be part of the problem. Unlike Ruddock who continued to draw a wage nearly as large as his shorts

Does Constable Flashheart not like anyone making snide comments or digs at him when they don't agree or believe posts he makes..

Isn't that a bit hypercritical of you baring in mind the snide digs you  have made to anyone not in the clique that has posted anything you don't believe or agree with....

 :smugfu:

Fair point regarding Evans but the others chose to leave because they had a better offer and I guess Wellens was no different

Wellens wouldn’t have kept us up.
That squad was fucking dire.

What made it worse was when we briefly went top of the league giving false hope!

Let’s also not forget we were actually pretty poor defensively even last season but got away with it in the shit league. This season at a higher level really highlighted that and showed the defensive deficiencies for all to see. There is no evidence to suggest he would have improved us defensively so we’d have still been easy to beat.

I think Wellens might have found another 10 points to have kept us up and wouldn't have ripped up the playing style to zero football like Sheridan did and excluded the loan signings.

I do think Wellens reputation has taken a dive after this season. That was the risk he took with the Salford job. Had he kept us in League One under these circumstances he could have walked into a decent league one or lower championship side.

He needs to rebuild his reputation, getting linked to a return here just gets his name out and about again.

This 100%,  don't understand why others cannot see this.  Would you work for a cunt of a boss like Power ?.  Wellens will always know a lot more than we ever will, and what we are already told, which I'm sure is a very limited amount,  I'm sure most of us like Wellens would jump ship at the first opportunity.
Blame Power (And Kovar) they got this club on a downward spiral not Wellens.

If Wellens decision to leave was based what a cunt Power is then why did he come here in the first place? And why did he stay so long? Why didn’t he resign?

He was happy enough working for Power till he got offered another job.

No doubt the dirt will keep coming on Power but let’s not pretend Wellens was some moral crusader who left his job here to fight the good fight.

Wellens signed Kovar and he was 100% a Wellens signing so he initiated the downward spiral then?

And as for leaving because of Power, he seemed pretty happy here...

https://twitter.com/richiewe11ens/status/1285660163177959428?s=21

I think you're getting a little carried away with the seriousness element. Possible "thread fatigue", we've all been there. I'm pretty certain SM was using subtle satire when bracketing Kovar.

When do you move to the floodplains* of Tewkesbury T2K?




*This is also, subtle satire.

He came to Swindon to get back into management.  His time at Oldham wasn’t successful and I doubt there were a queue of clubs looking to sign him up as a manager.  When he was announced as manager of Swindon I’m pretty sure most of our fans were uninspired. He had to take the chance to show what he believed he could do (and he completed it rather successfully by getting Town promoted).

I think their was interest from Blackpool (how strong I don’t really know). There is no benefit to Wellens of resigning from Swindon as he has a mortgage and other bills to pay and there was no guarantee that he would be able to find a new job.

I think a few fans just resent Wellens because he left Swindon for another club.  Even if someone like Sheffield Wednesday went for him people would say he is a bottler.

Kovar was a disaster,  true Wellens signed him,  but like many others their true abilities often remain untapped until they are tried, then it's too late.  Budget, or lack of,  initiate signings such as this which is only down to one person.

Nahh DV, anyone could have kept that squad up (Mesozoic one aside). They simply stopped playing for a manager/management team that was devoid of any real direction or instruction.

You could have put Mr. Benn in charge in Jan/Feb/Early March and he would have kept us up. The kits might have been interesting too  :D

So from day one he was only working with Power till he was offered another job, is that the narrative you are going for?

There was no other job in football available to Wellens so he had to compromise on his principles and work for Power.

Thankfully another job came up and he could stick to Power who he never liked from day 1.


I don’t resent Wellens for leaving. He (and Jewell) built a poor squad this season and Wellens wouldn’t have lasted the season anyway. He knew he had a losing hand here - that why he moved on and that is the bit that grates that he didn’t have the stomach to try & sort his shit out.

...and what Power is like as a person has fuck all to do with any of that.
From a business point of view, sure he cut the budget but I’ll bet my left bollock that we weren’t the only club to cut the budget during a pandemic with the clubs main source of income totally removed. I’d also bet my right bollock that our budget was not the lowest in the division. Yet we will finish bottom two.

Absolutely not.

My first worry about Wellens pre-season was his failure to sign a decent keeper out of the ones we had on trial. It all went strangely quiet as he messed about with other signings and not keeper, as if he didn't care.  There's probably a lot more we don't know as is usual, but that failure cost many soft goals and defensive uncertainty.

As is usual with this club over many years, the supporters will never get to know the real background machinations that went/go on and probably never will as it nearly always information/rumours gleaned from those supposedly "itk" and others reading between the lines that the opinions are formed and the real truth gets lost along the way.

It reads on here that RW divides views if he were to come back and that is understandable due to the way he left and I for one would rather see someone new but look what we got with Sheridan, so, better the devil you know?

Personally I am just fed up to the back teeth with it all and just want this whole clusterf**k done and dusted as soon as possible and not drag on into next season or looming large is a Southend scenario.

Couldn't watch on Saturday but just caught up on the lowlights! Looked terrible. Can't wait to get the off field issues sorted so that we can get a new man in and off load the dross and set a direction for the team.

I wouldn't be averse to Wellens coming back. I know that all managers, players etc in football do the following:
1. Are economical with the truth
2. Are driven by financial gain
3. Are loyal to themselves and not the club
4. Are mostly arrogant cocks

Let's see what happens next - other than embarrassment against Wigan!

Indeed its all a bit Mandy Rice Davies isn't it!

I see his Mum is peddling the line that he wasn't sacked from Salford, it was mutual consent as he wouldn't sacrifice his footballing principles..... if by footballing principles he meant putting a team out that lost most weeks then may be his principles needed questioning!

TBF that was quite widely reported at the time, not just his Mum "peddling a line"

Oh come on in this case it’s a sacking by any other name, their form was worst than ours under Sheridan!

I was referring to the bit about refusing to compromise on playing style