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Title: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:12:26
What do you say?  Defence always a man down having to mark our own apprentice before worrying about the oppo. Strikers left on the bench while a centre half replaces our top scorer. Players thrown on out of position with no discernible shape or plan. A goalkeeper asked to launch most of our attacks because we don't trust anyone to cross a ball, and daren't throw big men into the box because we need them back to cover our fragile defence.

With tonight's "game-plan", I'd wager Ken Beamish's historically lowest-placing STFC squad would have beaten Sheridan and Wright's. Their total incompetence has gutted this club.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:13:23
Camp by a country mile. A Grant tried hard as did Payne.

Camp 8
-   Couldnít do anything for either of the goal. Did his best to keep us in the game with several very good saves. Please come back next year Mr Camp

Grounds 5
-   Poor. Just not good enough. You would expect better of an experienced defender

Grant 7
-   Tried to play CB and CM. Left holes at the back because he tried to break up play (poss because he didnít trust Curran) and Curran didnít always cover.

Curran 3
-   Very poor. No need to say more

Caddis 5
-   Poor tonight. Ran around, but crossing was poor. Not the player he once was

Missilou 4
-   So slow with the ball. Plays too deep all the time.

Palmer 5
-   I realised who Palmer reminds me of: Anton Rogers. Couldnít dominate a poor midfield. Poor delivery. One shot in the game which he blazed over

Payne 7
-   Ran around like a looney. Two chances in the first half including a 1 on 1 with the keeper. Two shots in the second. Tried hard, but lost discipline and was all over the shop in the end. At least he tried until the end

Hope 2
-   Did he do anything?

Twine 4
-   Didnít get into the game. Took a couple of shots and a free kick. Disappointing

Pitman 6
-   He was causing trouble and started to get some service. Then we took him off! After that there was no control up top, no flick ons, no winning the ball! Everyone moans about his lack of movement, but you could see once he was off that we were worse for it!

Subs:
Broadbent 4
-   Heís not a striker. He didnít do much other than foul

J Grant 4
-   Didnít influence the game. Contributed as much as Missilou but in a different position!

Thompson 4
-   Not on long enough to influence anything. Should get bonus marks for replacing Curran


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:13:52
Didn't watch so can't express an informed view


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:22:05
Easily Curran today


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:26:05
Easily Curran today

You, or someone, keeps making this joke, but I don't get it. What's the point you're trying to make?


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:39:49
You, or someone, keeps making this joke, but I don't get it. What's the point you're trying to make?

I'm not sure it's a joke, with the votes at least. More a case of spoiling your ballot because you're so disgusted at the options you've been given.

Camp for me, because amazingly it could have been worse.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 22:20:23
Andrew Hawes. Should be on the list as standard.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:30:41
You, or someone, keeps making this joke, but I don't get it. What's the point you're trying to make?
This.

Camp easily the best player again.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:49:01
This.

Camp easily the best player again.

Easy to make a few straightforward saves and look good in this team. Did he do anything you wouldn't expect a keeper to do?

Perhaps we've forgot what an average keeper looks like this year.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:05:09
Easy to make a few straightforward saves and look good in this team. Did he do anything you wouldn't expect a keeper to do?

Perhaps we've forgot what an average keeper looks like this year.
He's a decent keeper, the fact this is the lowest level he has ever played at shows that and contrary to what some said when he joined he can get down to low shots.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:06:25
He's a decent keeper, the fact this is the lowest level he has ever played at shows that and contrary to what some said when he joined he can get down to low shots.

Not disputing that. Just don't think he did anything more than make a few saves he should have made anyway last night.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:09:05
Indeed, Camp did pretty much what is expected of him, but after a succession of poor goalkeepers in Kovar, Fryer and Trueman its refreshing to have a goalkeeper who is vocal, mostly commands his area and stops shot, all 3 of those keepers never did that.

But then again A Grant has had a few MotM literally because he was the only one actually doing his job and defending even though he is not a natural defender he is showing up far more seasoned defenders in his attitude and defensive ability.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:11:51
Not disputing that. Just don't think he did anything more than make a few saves he should have made anyway last night.
But making saves look saves 'he should make' is subjective, a lot of that will be down to his positioning and reading of the game, it's not just about the actual save.  Often keepers make what look like spectacular and 'great saves' because they were in the wrong position in the first place, the best keepers make things look easy.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:14:21
A goalie making saves he should save is a vast improvement on a goalie NOT making saves he should save.

From what I've seen, Camp would make a more than able L2 goalie.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:16:26
Not disputing that. Just don't think he did anything more than make a few saves he should have made anyway last night.
The thread is about man of the match. They were that shit he could have just had to take a goal kick and he was in contention


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:25:18
I voted for Payne. For me he's been one of our most willing and consistent players recently. Yes, at times he appears that he wants to do everything all over the pitch and that will constitute issues with player positions etc but bloody hell this guy doesn't stop running, and when you have 1/3 of your defence that look like they don't want to start running then its at least SOMETHING to have a player that looks like he might be at least able to make things happen.


Title: Re: Rochdale vs STFC MoM
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 15:39:05
Voted for Payne, best of a bad bunch and was the only one that actively tried to win the game rather than just avoid losing - which ultimately is what we needed