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Title: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 22:48:05
Its tiiiight at the bottom. And shaping up to be 4 from 7 then end up the dreaded League 2.

We are currently 2nd, but just 3 points between top and bottom :cry: Looking ahead at the fixtures March is a ram packed month of football and so many fixtures between these bottom clubs.

Rochdale         Played 30 | Points 28  | GD -14
Swindon          Played 30 | Points 28  | GD -20
Wimbledon      Played 28 | Points 28  | GD -20
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Rovers            Played 29 | Points 27  | GD -20
Wigan             Played 30 | Points 27  | GD -26
Northampton   Played 30 | Points 26  | GD -24
Burton            Played 28 | Points 25  | GD -21

Saturday is huuuge against Northampton without much explanation but even more so because the next 3 fixtures are against teams in Sunderland (5th), (Accrington) 7th and Oxford (8th). Then Gillingham (15th), Fleetwood (17th), Rovers (20th), Rochdale (18th)

Other teams fixtures in March:

Rochdale Hull (3rd), Sunderland (5th), Shrewsbury (16th), Lincoln (2nd), Peterborough (1st), Wimbledon (20th) and us (19th)

Wimbledon Shrewsbury (16th), Blackpool (14th), Burton (24th), Rovers (21st), Wigan (22nd), Charlton (9th), Rochdale (18th), Northampton (23rd). 5 of the bottom 7   :eek:

Rovers Burton (24th), Hull (3rd), Accrington (7th), Wimbledon (20th), Charlton (9th), Plymouth (12th), us (19th) and Sunderland (5th)

Wigan Charlton (9th), Franchise (13th), Plymouth (12th), Wimbledon (20th), Accrington (7th), Ipswich (10th)

Northampton Plymouth (12th), Portsmouth (4th), Charlton (9th), Doncaster (6th), Crewe (11th), Oxford (8th), Wimbledon (20th)

Burton Rovers (21st), Peterborough 1st), Wimbledon (20th), Crewe (11th), Blackpool (14th), Franchise (13th), Shrewsbury (16th), Fleetwood (17th)

Its only when you start looking at the fixtures that you realise there is so much left to play for.

We need to start seeing an improvement in our goal difference. I think someone will be relegated by it this season.
A long post (except for bamboo standards) but one that i will keep updated. 


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 22:50:04
Horror run for dale.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: bamboonoclue on Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 22:53:25
Yeah, I went through this the other week. Nice to get a mention in dispatches though.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 00:01:32
Was surprised to see Fleetwood down in 17th, just had a look at their form.  

Since the start of December they have played 16 games of which they have won 2, one of which against us, of course, the other against Donny, drawing 7 and earning 13 points.  In that time we've picked up 3 wins and 3 draws for 12 points, also from 16 matches.

Basically they've been awful and while they have an 8 point cushion on us and 9 on the relegation places I'm sure they'll be getting a bit twitchy.  Their next 6 fixtures look a little tricky before hosting us then travelling to Burton.  Could yet be sucked into it despite the gap.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 00:04:32
We have won and lost more games than any other team in the 7


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Moss on Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 19:59:51
My undoubtably flawed theory is that the goal difference is usually a good indicator of the sides that go down. So between us, rovers and Wimbledon for the last relegation spot.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 22:04:26

Burton            Played 30 | Points 31  | GD -18
Swindon          Played 32 | Points 31  | GD -20
Rovers            Played 31 | Points 30  | GD -20
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Wimbledon      Played 30 | Points 29  | GD -23
Northampton   Played 32 | Points 29  | GD -23
Rochdale         Played 32 | Points 28  | GD -18
Wigan             Played 32 | Points 27  | GD -28

remain in 2nd. from the reports of the way Burton are playing (3rd in the league for form last 5) and the results they are pulling off it might turn into a 4 from 6. I also have a bad feeling that joey barton might turn things round for rovers leaving the current bottom 4 as the final bottom 4.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 10:27:24
remain in 2nd. from the reports of the way Burton are playing (3rd in the league for form last 5) and the results they are pulling off it might turn into a 4 from 6. I also have a bad feeling that joey barton might turn things round for rovers leaving the current bottom 4 as the final bottom 4.

I don't have a bad feeling at all, the current bottom 4 being the final bottom 4 is absolutely fine by me!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 10:40:27
There will be ups and downs. We're in a little tough run at the moment and will probably be below the line again post Pox.

Then, four huge games against those down there with us. It's going to go to the wire, but my gut feeling is that the current bottom 3 are down, and then it's us or the Dons.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 10:50:38
There will be ups and downs. We're in a little tough run at the moment and will probably be below the line again post Pox.

Then, four huge games against those down there with us. It's going to go to the wire, but my gut feeling is that the current bottom 3 are down, and then it's us or the Dons.

Agreed, and the 2 games in hand that Dons have will play a big part in where we all end up.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 11:11:04
Since the abolute fluke victory against Crewe, we have shown small signs that this squad and management team might just keep us in this division.

he's not popular and I don't think he is a particularly good manager but he has history of saving teams from relegation so for the rest of the season I think we have no option but to support Shez in operation salvage. He's done it before, let's hope he can do it again.

Despite having a new keeper seemingly weekly we now seem to have stopped giving away so many stupid goals and dare I say we look a little bit more solid? It looks like Grounds, Broadbent and Conroy are the chosen Centre backs and they are beginning to look like a not catastrophic backline currently.

We have a potential matchwinner in Scott Twine. I didn't see the game last night but he hit the bar in the last minute from a free kick and apparently setup a glorious opportunity for Hallam Hope with his vision. It seems harsh to put the hopes of the town on a 21 year old home grown kid, but currently he is showing how good he can be.

BP scores goals. Yes he is heavy and sluggish but if a chance falls to him in the box, you'd back him to put it away. In a scramble his fox in the box mentality may be crucial.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 11:47:42
I agree BO.

As a unit we look far better, everyone looking to cover the others and knowing were they should be positionally.

Defending as a unit again, and with a decent keeper behind them also giving them confidence, makes you wonder what would have happened had we signed Baxter or even Barnes rather than the hapless and hopless Kovar as 1st choice rather than Wellens pandering to his true love - Man United.

The football brand we play is still dull as dishwater, long balls played from defence to Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman/Garrick which rarely get completed, we have a lightweight midfield pairing of Palmer and Payne who are not up to the job, again I would still love to see Lyden and Grant in there who are both way better options and use Payne sparingly as a substitute again. Missilou has shown me nothing to suggest he is good enough either.

Twine seems to be finding his feet being played in the number 10/playmaker role so you don't expect him to track back and defend as much, similar to his role at Newport that he played so well but he needs 2 more defensive minded midfielders behind him, Palmer and Payne don't fit that bill at all but Grant and Lyden certainly do.

We are shaping up better in the last 3 or 4 games than we did previously, yes we were lucky vs Crewe but we still won in a game we were dominated in, even previously in the Wigan game we were under the cosh 2nd half but in jammy style came out on top more through luck than judgement, the last 3 games though that has changed hugely.

As I stated its still boring as fuck to watch but if it keeps us in this division then thats all we can ask even though we know we can take the game to teams as we did in the last 20 mins yesterday, if we came out of the blocks playing that way I think we could have grabbed a point or more but by the time we changed style it was already too late.

It is looking a bit better so maybe there is hope we can survive, Burton have hot a good vein of form and could well escape under the guidance of JFH, a very under rated manager IMO.

The Barton effect hasn't kicked in yet (if it ever will) at Rovers, Rochdale, Wigan and Rovers all in a poor run of results, we have to hope that Wimbledon go on a losing run now and waste the games in hand.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 15:39:22
Makes you wonder why Sheridactyl left Twine sidelined on the subs bench for so many games.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 16:38:00
The Barton effect hasn't kicked in yet (if it ever will) at Rovers
Is there a Barton effect? Fleetwood not exactly tearing up trees this season under him


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 16:55:53
This could be the likely effect



Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 17:10:52
Pinched from the Rovers forum

This is the bottom seven's results against each other so far.

Swindon 5-0-2 15

Northampton 4-2-4 14

Rochdale 3-4-4 13

Wimbledon 3-2-1 11

Burton 3-2-4 11

Wigan 3-2-4 11

Us 2-3-4 9

So, us and Wimbledon have played fewer games against the other 6 relegation candidates - yet we still have more points. Keep up that sort of form and well be fine.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 17:15:45
Pinched from the Rovers forum

This is the bottom seven's results against each other so far.

Swindon 5-0-2 15

Northampton 4-2-4 14

Rochdale 3-4-4 13

Wimbledon 3-2-1 11

Burton 3-2-4 11

Wigan 3-2-4 11

Us 2-3-4 9

So, us and Wimbledon have played fewer games against the other 6 relegation candidates - yet we still have more points. Keep up that sort of form and well be fine.
I like your working Audrey!!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 19:34:33
Is there a Barton effect? Fleetwood not exactly tearing up trees this season under him
Many of our fans seem jealous of his appointment, with or without Sheridan wanting to be ousted.

On the Gas forum they seem to think they will easily get out of the relegation zone with his managing...although of course not all.

I personally don't see the appeal in the manager equivalent of Nile Ranger.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 22:30:50
Many of our fans seem jealous of his appointment, with or without Sheridan wanting to be ousted.

On the Gas forum they seem to think they will easily get out of the relegation zone with his managing...although of course not all.

I personally don't see the appeal in the manager equivalent of Nile Ranger.
I can actually, he has a bit of oomph about him, although obviously that can go in both directions. I was surprised when someone pointed out how indifferent Fleetwood had done this season under him. I guess in his defence they might not have the biggest budgie


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:27:12
Are we still going?

Some good results last night for us with teams games in hands. We are now obviously bottom of the 6 table and 3 points separate top to bottom. Everyone but Wigan have now played their games in hand.

I know most fans have seemingly given up, easy to do when the manager comes out and says it as well! BUT it isnt like we are cut adrift and until we are there is a chance.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:47:52
Oddly being bottom is a better result than being second bottom - the gap is only 3 points to 2 teams.
Being second from bottom would mean Wigan won and so only Rovers would be 3 points ahead.

Tuesday's game is going to be fucking massive*.

*watch us beat Fleetwood now.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: adje on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:56:22
"the bottom seven is upside down, the bottom seven....."


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:10:52
Oddly being bottom is a better result than being second bottom - the gap is only 3 points to 2 teams.
Being second from bottom would mean Wigan won and so only Rovers would be 3 points ahead.

Tuesday's game is going to be fucking massive*.

*watch us beat Fleetwood now.

Can shereiden get the players onside and motivated as out of the three away games we need to take at least 4 points from Rovers & Rochdale if not more to make sure we don't lose ground with games starting to run out.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:33
not sure if the Rochdale fixture being moved is a blessing or a curse


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:16:42
Normally I would agree as three away games on the trot is never good but with our home form the worst I can remember who knows if it's a good or bad time to play them.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:18:32
Stop doing it to yourself people, we have not been able to win 2 or 3 consecutive games all season, there is nothing to suggest we will now - especially when our manager tells us he has run out of ideas


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:20:23
We may have had a chance if he had walked last week end!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:27:32
League 2 next season guys, don't bother stressing.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:28:52
Quote from: Berniman
Stop doing it to yourself people, we have not been able to win 2 or 3 consecutive games all season, there is nothing to suggest we will now - especially when our manager tells us he has run out of ideas

stop speaking sense


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:37:02
(I went on a managing stress course yesterday at work (remotely) and so this statement comes from the outcome of that mainly;)

Well I am not going to surround myself with you Debbie Downers and I am going to share our great leaders' belief that he has the ability to turn this around. (this bit is sprinkled with a lorry load of fairy dust) As it stands we are mathematically in with a chance and play all the teams in the bottom so we have it in our hands. I still have a nagging belief that we will survive, I know that goes against all the evidence to the contrary but until we have the R against our name I'm going to believe we can still do it.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:37:43
League 2 next season guys, don't bother stressing.
Absolutely this.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:46:32
sounds like typical post course management head in sand to me BO

:)


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:01:00
sounds like typical post course management head in sand to me BO

:)

more than likely Batch!!

Didn't there used to be a head in the sand emoji? I couldn't find one, but maybe that's because I have grit in my eyes!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:04:32
So while we're doing coping mechanisms, it might be worth revising the seven stages of grief:

1. Shock and denial
2. Pain and guilt
3. Anger and bargaining
4. Depression
5. The upward turn
6. Reconstruction and working through
7. Acceptance and hope

We're probably moving gradually from 3 to 4 now. The good news is it does get better. The less good news is that if the source of the grief remains unresolved, hope comes from moving away from it.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:05:20
We may have had a chance if he had walked last week end!

Apart from cheer everyone (including the players) up, it would have made very little difference - maybe gained a few extra points, but still not enough to keep us up.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:12:09
I trust Sheridan hes a good manager who has been there and done it before, he has the respect of the players and fans and owner alike, we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.

I am confident him staying is the best decision all round for the club and that we will overcome the odds and stay up this season.

Mmmmm my medication is working wonders today.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:16:15
I trust Sheridan hes a good manager who has been there and done it before, he has the respect of the players and fans and owner alike, we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.

I am confident him staying is the best decision all round for the club and that we will overcome the odds and stay up this season.

Mmmmm my medication is working wonders today.

Someone has tampered with your medication and put some acid in there PV!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:20:54
Someone has tampered with your medication and put some acid in there PV!
No idea but these Unicorns taste like sweeties.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:27:56
I trust Sheridan hes a good manager who has been there and done it before, he has the respect of the players and fans and owner alike, we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.

I am confident him staying is the best decision all round for the club and that we will overcome the odds and stay up this season.

Mmmmm my medication is working wonders today.

Looks like JJ is at the denial stage


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: DV Canio on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 12:01:07
Acceptance and Hallam Hope for me.

The squad was poor in August. Even worse now.
Wed have struggled under Wellens and his team.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 12:27:11
The only thing that will send me in a downward spiral is not getting relegated, but getting relegated AND Power/Sheridan both being here next season.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 12:55:46
Bookies seem to have given up on us, my cash out on my bet has gone up to 8.40 (total value if I just leave it to run its course 10.50).


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 13:21:00
The only thing that will send me in a downward spiral is not getting relegated, but getting relegated AND Power/Sheridan both being here next season.

If that happens I hope many don't buy or renew their season tickets and make a real statement


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 17:55:22
If that happens I hope many don't buy or renew their season tickets and make a real statement
Not me, mate. I want to be there to vent my spleen in person.

Anyway, my match day experience is much more important to me than Power and Sheridan. Theyll be gone long before I give up the ghost.

Im sure well get over this episode and start the next chapter of bonkersness that is the lifecycle of STFC.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 12:11:28
Accrington Stanley v Wigan Athletic Accrington lost 4 out of 5
AFC Wimbledon v Charlton Athletic
Fleetwood Town v Swindon Town Fleetwood won 4 out of 5
Northampton Town v Crewe Alexandra Crewe won 1 out of 5
Plymouth Argyle v Bristol Rovers Plymouth lost 5 out of 5
Rochdale v Peterborough United

Not going to be a pretty weekend i fear




Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 12:30:07
Not me, mate. I want to be there to vent my spleen in person.

Anyway, my match day experience is much more important to me than Power and Sheridan. Theyll be gone long before I give up the ghost.

Im sure well get over this episode and start the next chapter of bonkersness that is the lifecycle of STFC.

Still attend games but don't give him the money early


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 17:13:23
Accrington Stanley v Wigan Athletic Accrington lost 4 out of 5
AFC Wimbledon v Charlton Athletic
Fleetwood Town v Swindon Town Fleetwood won 4 out of 5
Northampton Town v Crewe Alexandra Crewe won 1 out of 5
Plymouth Argyle v Bristol Rovers Plymouth lost 5 out of 5
Rochdale v Peterborough United

Not going to be a pretty weekend i fear




I'll probably jinx it now but going alright so far


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 17:22:04
Should cut the seasons to a third of the length and replace champ-l2 with 9 divs of 8 teams


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 17:51:50
Rochdale come from 0-2 down to win 3-2  -  bugger.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: bamboonoclue on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 17:57:20
Rochdale come from 0-2 down to win 3-2  -  bugger.

Drew 3-3 mate.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:30:36
tighter than a robinette


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:33:01
tighter than a robinette

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:35:29
Quote
tighter than a robinette
naughty


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:37:29
naughty

I apolagise for any offense caused.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:42:44
Makes the BRokers game a real 6 pointer now !!!.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:49:07
Accrington Stanley v Wigan Athletic Accrington lost 4 out of 5
AFC Wimbledon v Charlton Athletic
Fleetwood Town v Swindon Town Fleetwood won 4 out of 5
Northampton Town v Crewe Alexandra Crewe won 1 out of 5
Plymouth Argyle v Bristol Rovers Plymouth lost 5 out of 5
Rochdale v Peterborough United

Not going to be a pretty weekend i fear

 :eek: :D wow. quite an unbelievable set of results which would have got you 1300/1. we are still alive!!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 18:49:43
Tuesday is a really massive game now, (not that it wasn't important) if we could grab a win (and a double) then maybe the escape could be on.

Under Sheridactyl we have never had back to back wins. We haven't had a back to back win since 3rd March 2020.

The Gash have only won 1 game in 6 and lost again today (2-0 at Muff) making it back to back defeats for them.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 19:08:43
The scum could do us a massive favour Tuesday as well as Shrewsbury. Though as oft said, its in our own hands.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 19:22:19
Tuesday is a really massive game now, (not that it wasn't important) if we could grab a win (and a double) then maybe the escape could be on.

Under Sheridactyl we have never had back to back wins. We haven't had a back to back win since 3rd March 2020.

The Gash have only won 1 game in 6 and lost again today (2-0 at Muff) making it back to back defeats for them.

What is their pitch like?
Is it still as bad as ours?


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 19:24:41
What is their pitch like?
Is it still as bad as ours?

It was awful last season but TBH I haven't seen it in recent weeks, should be flourishing with all the shit thats on it week after week ;) .


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 19:24:58
tighter than a robinette

Nearly beat up a former Robinette once
True story.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 19:35:21
What is their pitch like?
Is it still as bad as ours?


It looked pretty good a couple of weeks ago against Accrington


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: bamboonoclue on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 19:38:13
Going back to the "fixtures to play", Town are actually above on their target points of expected wins. They have had two "bonus" wins now that weren't really expected (Crewe and Filletwood today).

I mentioned that Town's record against the teams around them has been very good. I think the best of the bottom 6 but it's very good even if I'm wrong on the last part; better than 4 others for sure. Town still have several of them to play. These were always going to be the matches that matter the most. Picking up the two extra wins and the point v Lincoln have been a welcome addition.

No one really can disagree (although I can think of one or two that might) that beating Wovvers will massively increase Town's chances of staying up and getting towards a survival target of points.

Said it numerous times previously. This is going to go down to the last day and will probably be settled on GD. Town can "easily" escape if they keep up their good form against the teams around (currently all below them).


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 00:03:38
Going back to the "fixtures to play", Town are actually above on their target points of expected wins. They have had two "bonus" wins now that weren't really expected (Crewe and Filletwood today).

I mentioned that Town's record against the teams around them has been very good. I think the best of the bottom 6 but it's very good even if I'm wrong on the last part; better than 4 others for sure. Town still have several of them to play. These were always going to be the matches that matter the most. Picking up the two extra wins and the point v Lincoln have been a welcome addition.

No one really can disagree (although I can think of one or two that might) that beating Wovvers will massively increase Town's chances of staying up and getting towards a survival target of points.

Said it numerous times previously. This is going to go down to the last day and will probably be settled on GD. Town can "easily" escape if they keep up their good form against the teams around (currently all below them).

gd is going to be extremely important so bad and close between all teams at the bottom. the problem when we win is that we only win by 1 goal. Today was the 1st time under sheridan we have won by 2 goals. The clean sheet is obviously as important.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 00:22:00
gd is going to be extremely important so bad and close between all teams at the bottom. the problem when we win is that we only win by 1 goal. Today was the 1st time under sheridan we have won by 2 goals. The clean sheet is obviously as important.

Especially in the 5 games against the teams around us where goal difference will effectively be doubled.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 00:28:47
Four wins and a draw may be enough this year, five wins almost certain to stay up so could still afford to lose five


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 09:10:13
Apart from, obviously, wishing defeats for Bristol Rovers v Sunderland and Wigan v Ipswich, whats the best outcome of Wimbledon v Northampton?

I reckon anything but a Wombles win.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 09:30:12
Apart from, obviously, wishing defeats for Bristol Rovers v Sunderland and Wigan v Ipswich, whats the best outcome of Wimbledon v Northampton?

I reckon anything but a Wombles win.

A 0-0 would be ideal.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 09:44:16
Wednesday sees Gills v Wigan. A convincing home win would be ideal.

Good Friday sees the following fixtures of interest.

Pilgrims V Wombles
Tractor Boys v The Gas
Milk Drinkers v The Brewers
Cobblers v Part-Time Taffs
Navy Bois v The Dale

Four home, one away would do nicely thank you.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:40:08
Apart from, obviously, wishing defeats for Bristol Rovers v Sunderland and Wigan v Ipswich, whats the best outcome of Wimbledon v Northampton?

I reckon anything but a Wombles win.

a draw keeps them both below us! a win for northampton would be a good bit of form for them. maybe too good


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:59:52
Bristol Rovers 0-3 Sunderland
Wigan 0-2 Ipswich
Wimbledon 1-1 Northampton

My predictions.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:03:52
Not confident of a result today, but hoping other results will help us maintain a bit of a gap.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:10:18
Not confident of a result today,
I am 100% confident we wont lose today ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:10:33
Easter Monday looks tasty fixture wise too especially our head to head with The Brewers..away.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:10:52
I am 100% confident we wont lose today ;)

I have money on it.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:42:40
a draw keeps them both below us! a win for northampton would be a good bit of form for them. maybe too good
Our ambition is solely to finish outside the bottom 4. So, for me, a win for the Cobblers is a positive for us. Sure, it moves them above us but it, more importantly, keeps the Wombles 4 points behind us.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:54:48
Our ambition is solely to finish outside the bottom 4. So, for me, a win for the Cobblers is a positive for us. Sure, it moves them above us but it, more importantly, keeps the Wombles 4 points behind us.
A draw for me but if any team win then yes a Cobblers win would be the next best outcome.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: bamboonoclue on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 14:53:22
Wednesday sees Gills v Wigan. A convincing home win would be ideal.

Good Friday sees the following fixtures of interest.

Pilgrims V Wombles
Tractor Boys v The Gas
Milk Drinkers v The Brewers
Cobblers v Part-Time Taffs
Navy Bois v The Dale


Four home, one away would do nicely thank you.

I'm surprised Aud hasn't been on to ask you what on earth you're talkin about? Who are these strange teams you talk of?  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 15:42:23
I'm surprised Aud hasn't been on to ask you what on earth you're talkin about? Who are these strange teams you talk of?  :soapy tit wank:

I await said request should Aud require a concise explanation.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: bamboonoclue on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 15:50:18
I await said request should Aud require a concise explanation.

Oh no. Do leave that to me, that's my job. Remember  :D


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 16:41:33
Gas losing 0-1


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:24:16
Woolery, Yates and Doyle on on the scoresheet this afternoon


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:28:44
Woolery, Yates and Doyle on on the scoresheet this afternoon
Mullins, Doyle, Nouble, Woolery and Yates.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:42:27
Accrington 6 down no idea what's happened to them recently


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:45:53
Accrington 6 down no idea what's happened to them recently
They were pretty poor against us too, we should have got at least a point if not all 3.

7-0 now.

Seems to have coincided with Baxter getting injured.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:48:11
They were pretty poor against us too, we should have got at least a point if not all 3.

7-0 now.

Seems to have coincided with Baxter getting injured.

Agreed JJ although they looked good down here


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:55:16
Agreed JJ although they looked good down here
Almost everybody to a team have looked good down here vs Town!


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:55:27
They were pretty poor against us too, we should have got at least a point if not all 3.

7-0 now.

Seems to have coincided with Baxter getting injured.
What might have been this season if we'd signed him ....


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: 4D on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:55:52
Ass lost. Ffs Ipswich


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:56:50
Wombles beating Cobblers now.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:57:39
Ass lost.
Pardon?


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:00:13
What might have been this season if we'd signed him ....
I don't like to heap blame on 1 individual but Kovar was a rash panic signing by Wellens that probably cost us a top half place this season. Quite possibly the worst keeper I have seen in 45 years+ at Town who played more than 5 games.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:01:06
Still 19th after not kicking a ball. Couldn't really have gone much better. Fairly happy


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:04:00
Bristol City fans happy on their forum and boy do they know how to take the Mickey out of their poor neighbours😀


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:09:52
Tight as a gnats chuff at the bottom.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fWXStSwt/Untitled.png)


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:20:08
PV Is your signature a "Boomtown Rats" quote at the bottom?


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:24:53
PV Is your signature a "Boomtown Rats" quote at the bottom?
Slightly modified yes mate :)


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:33:02
I don't like to heap blame on 1 individual but Kovar was a rash panic signing by Wellens that probably cost us a top half place this season. Quite possibly the worst keeper I have seen in 45 years+ at Town who played more than 5 games.
No 'possibly ' about it !!.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:36:52
Tight as a gnats chuff at the bottom.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fWXStSwt/Untitled.png)
Stil rather be in our position than some of the others,  even games in hand over some, wasn't that long ago we were in the bottom two and played more games than all the other relegation candidates.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:49:31
Stil rather be in our position than some of the others,  even games in hand over some, wasn't that long ago we were in the bottom two and played more games than all the other relegation candidates.
Yes Indeed


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 19:18:17
tighter than a nuns chuff

I am not sure I can take a ghost of Sheridan past v ghost of Sheridan present last v day showdown


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 20:07:08
Stil rather be in our position than some of the others,  even games in hand over some, wasn't that long ago we were in the bottom two and played more games than all the other relegation candidates.

This is a really good point.  Even only a few weeks ago, we stood out as having played more games than the teams around us.  That's gone now.  Our amazing two game winning run has effectively wiped out the games-in-hand threat without losing us any ground.  We're now out of the drop zone, just, on merit.  A handful of wins is all we need now.  It's there for the taking.

I'm still scratching my head wondering how this is possible after 6 months of Sheridanesque awfulness.  But it is.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 21:37:24
This is a really good point.  Even only a few weeks ago, we stood out as having played more games than the teams around us.  That's gone now.  Our amazing two game winning run has effectively wiped out the games-in-hand threat without losing us any ground.  We're now out of the drop zone, just, on merit.  A handful of wins is all we need now.  It's there for the taking.

I'm still scratching my head wondering how this is possible after 6 months of Sheridanesque awfulness.  But it is.

I'm still scratching my head wondering how this is possible after 6 months of Sheridanesque awfulness.  But it is

That may be down to players confidence. Trust me when these guys come out the dressing room for an interview after another dicking, they always trot out the same old cliches about unity, harmony, everyone playing for each other, back to basics, simple errors etc. Their confidence levels are up and down like a whores draws, same as everyone else. Our Jurassic manager has history, some good, some bad. He is old skool. Calling them cunts behind closed doors isnt the way forward. Piss poor formations, selections and falling in and out with players doesnt help either. Nor do injuries, suspensions, poor referees decisions. That said, we may 🤞 just pull a 🐇 out of a 🎩 Going forward. Is the Jurassic one our future? Probably not but we are no more than we are and attracting a good manager with a proven TR is going to be both difficult and costly. So its either an up and coming one, a journeyman or an ex player looking to cut his teeth. Until the ownership and future funding is secured well just have to scratch the itching scalp and keep wondering how the fuck did that happen, whatever that may be.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 09:07:01
Was looking at the table again just now and thinking IF only we had played and won yesterday how good that table would look.
Happy with the way things are going at present and reasonably confident we can beat the drop provided we continue to perform as we have the last couple of games.  Just shows what a difference two wins on the bounce can make -  equally the same applies to two defeats.
It's in our own hands,  just get over this shi t of a season and the Championship beckons once again.
It's the hope that kills you !!!.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: river monster on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 11:32:26
Didn't realise Northampton missed a last minute penalty at Wimbledon, that would have been a lovely draw for us, thankful its still in our own hands at this point though..


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 11:52:49
Didn't realise Northampton missed a last minute penalty at Wimbledon, that would have been a lovely draw for us, thankful its still in our own hands at this point though..
Yes 97th minute! what a sickener for them! a draw would have been the best option though for us. Northampton and Rovers are easily the 2 worst teams we have played this season, maybe Cobblers will be affected and go on a losing run now. As long as it doesn't kick start the Wombles season.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:11:18
Yes 97th minute! what a sickener for them! a draw would have been the best option though for us. Northampton and Rovers are easily the 2 worst teams we have played this season, maybe Cobblers will be affected and go on a losing run now. As long as it doesn't kick start the Wombles season.

I doubt any of the bottom mini league teams us included are likely to hit promotion form between now and when this shit storm season finishes. The table does not lie and were all at the arse end for a reason. Of course there will be little flourishes from teams but equally there will be nightmare patches too. Its the teams that have the. Resolve to hold their nerve and grind out results and by that I mean not losing even if a point seems useless. Id love to be proved wrong that we can put together form that looks like a promotion push.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:15:54
Now is the time to look at the remaining fixtures and try to guess how many points we think each team will get and I have to say having just looked after posting what I said about promotion win ing form that our task looks fucking monumental. I hadnt realised who we had still to play. I guess the only saving grace is that home or away advantage has less of an impact at the mo, just as well.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:18:16
. Id love to be proved wrong that we can put together form that looks like a promotion push.
Last two games ??, Couldn't have done any better.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:21:41
I doubt any of the bottom mini league teams us included are likely to hit promotion form between now and when this shit storm season finishes. The table does not lie and were all at the arse end for a reason. Of course there will be little flourishes from teams but equally there will be nightmare patches too. Its the teams that have the. Resolve to hold their nerve and grind out results and by that I mean not losing even if a point seems useless. Id love to be proved wrong that we can put together form that looks like a promotion push.
Yeah Burton started a nice mini run when they looked dead and buried a few months ago, but have come crashing down again with consecutive defeats a run of WLWWWWWWDLL.

All good runs will come to an end even if teams do go on a run.

I just hope we can start a similar run and get away from the relegation battle at the bottom with each team climbing over the next to try and escape the quagmire.

As you rightly say It will be close with all teams winning a few and losing a few, just hope we can win the ones against other struggling teams at the bottom, that will be a start, as we still have Wimbledon, Rochdale, Wigan to play and they are all below us currently and Burton just above us.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:27:03
Yes 97th minute! what a sickener for them! a draw would have been the best option though for us. Northampton and Rovers are easily the 2 worst teams we have played this season, maybe Cobblers will be affected and go on a losing run now. As long as it doesn't kick start the Wombles season.
Yes, that miss could ultimately have a bearing on which division we play in next season.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:52:30
Last two games ??, Couldn't have done any better.

Who is up next? Blackpool, only likely to get a stick of rock from that game, then there is Ipswich, Pompey and Peterborough, in the mix What kind of promotion form do you anticipate? Im not going to offer to eat my hat or run naked around the county ground if we beat any of them but a large dash of realism needs to be added to the thought process of what we have to still do and who that is against. I could easily envisage losing all the above, even interspersed with some wins against those around us wouldnt be classed as promotion form IMHO.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: bamboonoclue on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 13:30:35
Yep even Burton have potentially started a little dip, but that burst of form for them will probably be enough to not worry...lose to Town however and their fans will get twitchy again.

I think I mentioned it several weeks back when Town had about 14/15 games to go, that the results that will count will be amongst those around us. Between all that we'd not pick up much else but would need to find the odd win or even three draws a la Luke Williams. As it turns out, despite the games that were down as expected losses, Town have picked up quite a few points (as a bonus), as well as continuing their very good form against teams around us. Still convinced out of the bottom 6 or 7, Town are either the best or at least second best in terms of games against each other (so far). I still don't think the "Home" or "Away" factor really matters, if anything a home environment is tougher because players must feel like it has all the draw of a pointless tinpot match against Barnsley u23s on a Tuesday night.

Coming up, I don't expect Town to get anything against;

Blackpool Verdict: 0pts

and might manage a draw against;

Burton Verdict: 1pt

If they come away with more than 1pt from those two, it will be a bonus on current standing (not Michael). Would be delighted with a loss and a win. Even if those two results and just a point puts Town back below the dotted line I still won't be panicking. I have said numerous times, this will probably go to down to the last day (even if not for Town, they will definitely have some say in at least another team's fate).

Between then and after Burton, Town face;

Peterborough (Pretty nailed on loss you'd think. Maybe don't look at the table this match if the above outcome has gone as predicted, it could look pretty grim)
Verdict: 0pts

Rochdale (If form against the equalish shite teams prevails, then this should be a win)
Verdict: 3pts

Wimbledon (Again, Town should be looking to continue their good form in this part of the division and grab another win at whatever cost but a point would be a dampener. To lose would be fucking horrendous)
Verdict: 3pts

Portsmouth (Yep, similar to Peterborough could be a cagey game though with two teams needing points for very different reasons. Could easily end up with a win, in off Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman's ball sack but I'll leave that fairytale image to another realm. Expect a loss)
Verdict: 0pts

MK Faux Dons (Tough one to judge really and any outcome could happen here but I think this is one where Town do pick up something. At present their form suggests a late surge into the PO spots. Depending on what they do between now and this fixture, it could be a nothing game for them. Which would be very handy for Town to even squeak a but more out of it. Flip that scenario the other way and they could need the points as much as Town. I'm going straight down the middle and seeing a stalemate in terms of result)
Verdict: 1pt

Ipswich (Like MKFD above, Ipswich could be still hunting for a PO spot by this stage and if so, a very crucial match with one to go. For some reason, despite Town putting in a great display against them, I can only see them beating Town (this fixture and MK could possibly be reversed in results tbh) and it looking very likely that Town need something going into the final game)
Verdict: 0pts

Going into the last game, my "logical" predictions will have Town collected a further;

8pts and sitting on a total of 45pts

God knows what position the table will show  at that point but I would say Rochdale possibly will be consigned to going down. As might be Wovers. I would guess at it being, on the last day something like a "two from four", with Town and Wimbledon needing a point. For reference, those important final day games are;

Blackpool v Wovers (can't see much other than a Blackpool win, if needing to cement a PO place. However it could be a nothing match if they tail off and Wovers are already down. Would be just pride at stake)

Lincoln v Wimbledon (If not securing a PO spot then Lincoln will be looking to sneak in the autos and this is a very dangerous fixture for Wimbledon. Should be a win for the Siren Winders)

MK v Rochdale (Rochdale will likely be down. The emphasis will mostly be on club MK if they have anything to play for. Their current form suggests they may but otherwise it'll be more about chatting to each other about where they're are off on holiday)

Oxford v Burton (I've included this as a little caveat. Burton will have themselves to blame (and possibly Town if the earlier result v them goes in our favour) if they end up needing something from the final game. They shouldn't and like the previous two above, Oxford (and I'm shuddering at this thought) could be well within a chance of the POs. It's that tight across the league. It tears at the heartstrings a little this because we might ourselves needing Oxford to do Town a favour. If not then I'll happily have Burton wallop them and prevent them getting in the POs. It really is a minor caveat but it's a potential fixture that may need to be watched with caution.

Sunderland v Northampton (Yet another dangerous fixture. Sunderland could well be at this stage needing a win to claim auto or at the very least securing third spot. I can't see anything other than a Mackem win and Northampton probably will need at least a point (because of the Town v Wigan and also the Wimbledon fixtures most likely). They could grab it but at that point it would probably be ok for Town. Just as long as Cobblers don't win!

Then the one that matters and with fate possibly in Town's own hands;

Wigan v Swindon (I still see us just needing a point, if it's come right down to the wire, with one of Wimbledon, Northampton, Wigan and Town needing something. Some more so than others but it will be tight and each team could impact the other on this final day. I don't even want to guess the outcome and it makes me feel sick thinking it could genuinely come down to GD, if the permutation of results culminate in this end of season spectacular (for a fucking neutral maybe). Luckily this is where Town are marginally and currently better of out of the bottom six (Rochdale are also -21). Through gritted teeth I say Town get a point and it ends up something like;

19. Town      46pts (best GD)
20. Dons      46pts (lower GD)
====================
21. N'hants   46pts (worse GD)
22. Wigan A  45pts
23. Wovers   42pts
24. R'dale     38pts

Fuck I hope I'm right or at least very close (in the positive sense) to this because there is a lot of turbulent air ahead fellas (and fellarettes and anything else in between or outside of it). Whack your seatbelts on until further notice and remain seated. Power Airways remind you to "Please enjoy your flight".


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 13:32:51
Match the form of the last 9 games (13 points) and we likely stay up, especially if the majority of those points come against the teams around us we have to play.  Realistically, anything over a point a game will probably be enough so 3 wins and a couple of draws, for example.

We seem to have a match winner in Twine now (every game he has scored in we have won) and a keeper who is fit for purpose, two things that could separate us from the teams below us.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 15:06:44
Joey Barton favourite for the Preston job.....let's hope not as he's doing a wonderful job where he is 7 defeats out of 10😀


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 15:50:18
wtf? why is he favourite.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 15:56:07
Who knows unless it's a Northern thing! Depends which Bookies you look at it's either him or Grant McCann with Nicky Butt behind in third.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: donkey on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 17:01:36
Who knows unless it's a Northern thing! Depends which Bookies you look at it's either him or Grant McCann with Nicky Butt behind in third.

Butt would be behind.


Title: Re: Relegation Mini league
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, March 28, 2021, 17:04:35
Butt would be behind.

 :clap: :clap: :clap: