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Title: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Monday, August 27, 2012, 08:44:50
Does anyone know how to fix a flush syphon? The water just doesn't want to flow  :(


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 27, 2012, 08:58:38
Call a plumber out


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Barnard on Monday, August 27, 2012, 09:00:55
http://www.videojug.com/film/troubleshooting-the-toilet-wont-flush


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Bewster on Monday, August 27, 2012, 09:46:24
Probably need a new diaphragm.

Although sounds like you need a new house tbh


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2012, 09:53:14
Although sounds like you need a new house tbh
I was thinking this.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 27, 2012, 14:00:42
If only 4D had asked for house buying advice in the first place,this wouldn't have happend


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: tans on Monday, August 27, 2012, 14:35:56
Take the body out


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, August 27, 2012, 18:41:04
He's just moved?

Bucket of water job......let the love flow...


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 14:42:11
bump!

Does anyone know the standard syphon size, toolstation sell em for about a fiver but have 3 different sizes.


Title: Re: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 14:51:25
I'd like to stick your head in a fucking loo.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 15:42:31
I'd like to stick your head in a fucking loo.

It's funny because it's true  ;D


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 16:29:38
Haven't you got a bog brush then Hert?


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 16:41:18
Just going to do this job myself on a close coupled toilet. Can't flush it, and the diaphragm is not easily replaceable.

Also the bloody thing doesn't have a stop valve so this is what I intend to do:

 - Turn off stopcock,
 - Drain cistern.
 - Unscrew water inlet pipe from toilet ingress valve.
 - Put end stop on water inlet pipe.
 - Turn on stopcock and check for leaks.

That gives me more time to take the toilet apart without leaving the house with water. I'm going to remove the cistern and check which size syphon/coupling kit I need.

I (probably) have a syphon (depending on size needed), but need a new coupling kit as the old one is rusted to hell and is bound to need a Jim Duggan on it, same with one of the wall screws.



Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: dporter on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 08:59:48
Just going to do this job myself on a close coupled toilet. Can't flush it, and the diaphragm is not easily replaceable.

Also the bloody thing doesn't have a stop valve so this is what I intend to do:

 - Turn off stopcock,
 - Drain cistern.
 - Unscrew water inlet pipe from toilet ingress valve.
 - Put end stop on water inlet pipe.
 - Turn on stopcock and check for leaks.

That gives me more time to take the toilet apart without leaving the house with water. I'm going to remove the cistern and check which size syphon/coupling kit I need.

I (probably) have a syphon (depending on size needed), but need a new coupling kit as the old one is rusted to hell and is bound to need a Jim Duggan on it, same with one of the wall screws.



Fit a service valve too whilst you're at it incase you need to do anything in the future or you end up with a leak after doing your work.
bump!

Does anyone know the standard syphon size, toolstation sell em for about a fiver but have 3 different sizes.

Just measure your one and then add about 25mm to allow for the thread  :)


Title: Re: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 10:56:00
Fitting a service valve seems to involve cutting pipes = more chance of leak than refitting end stop!


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 11:20:08
So you've been without this toilet for over 3 months?


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 11:35:52
Nope, we have three.


Title: Re: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: dporter on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 11:43:45
Fitting a service valve seems to involve cutting pipes = more chance of leak than refitting end stop!

If you've already turned the water off at the mains and the pipe's drained down it's a piece of piss job to cut the pipe a bit and put on the service valve - you could even get a push fit fitting. If you turn on the mains and your cistern's not properly sealed to the pan you're going to have water everywhere. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 11:50:11
[Donna single handedly destroys long held preconceptions about women and DIY.]   ;D


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: dporter on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 11:59:36
[Donna single handedly destroys long held preconceptions about women and DIY.]   ;D

Haha! DIY's like a bus man's holiday for me :)


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 12:11:28
[Donna single handedly destroys long held preconceptions about women and DIY.]   ;D
:) And conversely the last time I tried something as simple as replacing the ballcock in our upstairs loo we ended up with a 1st floor fountain gushing water into the garden ("It's that classy water feature you've always wanted love" as I tried to explain to the missus) until the plumber came out smirking to put right my foolishness. I'm a lot more 4D than dporter


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 12:30:11
I'm a lot more 4D than dporter

Me too ! Hence the reluctance to cut anything even if she is right (women are always right, so they say).

Managed to decouple the cistern and put it back together on the other toilet. What could go wrong :)


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 12:39:20
I'm actually quite a handyman  :toocool:

I just don't like being gung go (ever since I put a nail through the main branch pipe of the hot water tank)


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 12:44:29
Nope, we have three.

So you've been without  THIS toilet for three months ?


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 12:45:48
Yes, and no. I have a bucket, for flushing


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 12:51:34
Just get a fucking plumber in.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 14:21:01
If I put a syphon in = £5

Plumber + syphon = £60


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 14:29:10
I changed mine without even checking sizes. Just picked up the first one I saw in B&Q, went home and drained the cistern and swapped them over.

Hope that helps :)


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Monday, December 10, 2012, 09:14:06
Picked up a syphon yesterday from Toolstation for £4.85 - bargain. Drained the cistern, the awkward bit is yet to be done.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: inept and tiresome on Monday, December 10, 2012, 20:52:43
My problem is bog related.
I've been constipated for 2 weeks. Piles the size of a pea for almost as long. Docs put me on penecilin and juice that makes me shit through the eye of a needle. Made Doncaster Rovers an interesting game I can tell you.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 11, 2012, 07:54:28
You lost much weight?


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Monday, December 17, 2012, 13:14:01
Job done, thread closed. The diaphragm was knackered, total cost to me = £4.85. Pleased with that.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: jutty274 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 14:49:30
Job done, thread closed. The diaphragm was knackered, total cost to me = £4.85. Pleased with that.
You want to watch that knackered diaphram, that happened to me once & 9 months later i had another daughter.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: 4D on Monday, December 17, 2012, 15:56:14
I always thought you were a bloke?


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: jutty274 on Monday, December 17, 2012, 21:06:59
I am, i didn't say it was mine.


Title: Re: Bog won't flush
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 19:25:01
I always thought you were a bloke?

He's a cunt!