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Title: Rovers' new ground
Post by: 02hodgsol on Friday, July 20, 2012, 00:31:31
So Rovers today got their ground planning permission......21400 seater stadium! It will be like watching middlesborough at home with the ground 9/10ths empty! :clap:

Hopefully we can now press on and get our ground redone


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: china red on Friday, July 20, 2012, 01:32:50
Didn't they have planning permission a few years ago including student apartments?


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Sippo on Friday, July 20, 2012, 06:56:08
Not guaranteed though, as sainsburys will need planning consent for their 'current' ground.

I think they may fill that you know.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 20, 2012, 07:02:44
Didn't they have planning permission a few years ago including student apartments?

Yes, but it expired in Jan 2012. The developer pulled the pug and I think the financial crisis had taken hold so it was hard to get a replacement.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-line-Plan-B-Frenchay-campus-bid/story-13778130-detail/story.html

It was for a "18,500-seat stadium scheme also has consent for an 84-bed hotel, 550 units of student accommodation, convenience store, restaurant, bar and a crèche."


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 20, 2012, 07:29:42
They could do a Reading or Brighton, their crowds will go up for a season or two, then drift away when they realise that league one is their limit.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 20, 2012, 07:38:25
Or "one stand, you only need one stand!"


Title: Re: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, July 20, 2012, 09:02:36
It'll be interesting to see how it changes them. I'd be concerned if I was a City fan - their comparative fortunes with new ground planning could be the sort of thing to turn the tables. Yes, city are historically the larger club, but there isn't a vast difference in their size.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, July 20, 2012, 09:46:08
It'll be interesting to see how it changes them. I'd be concerned if I was a City fan - their comparative fortunes with new ground planning could be the sort of thing to turn the tables. Yes, city are historically the larger club, but there isn't a vast difference in their size.

I think City's financial blackhole only adds to those concerns. Give it 5 years and Rovers could quite conceivably be a division or two higher than City if things work out for them.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 20, 2012, 09:57:21
Bristol City squad could really struggle this season. Their transfer activity suggests they're struggling a little bit. So far they've brought in Jody Morris but Akos Buszaky is in talks.

My dream is for Town to leapfrog City.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, July 20, 2012, 10:33:25
My dream would be for all three clubs to be playing in the same division...as happened for a few years around the time I started going to games.  Regular games vs City in particular would be great for us as a club.

It'll be interesting to see how it changes them. I'd be concerned if I was a City fan - their comparative fortunes with new ground planning could be the sort of thing to turn the tables. Yes, city are historically the larger club, but there isn't a vast difference in their size.

Agree with this.  Since City's own redevelopment plans hit the buffers they seem to have stagnated - and, ultimately, they and Rovers are chasing pretty much the same pool of potential fans.  I have wondered before whether the football following public in Bristol would have been so much happier if, by accident of history, only one club had emerged instead of two.  Bristol 'United' would possibly have spent a good chunk of its history in the top division.  And that awful Irene song would, most probably, never have seen the light of day.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, July 20, 2012, 10:36:27
The first post in this thread on the Bristol City forum says it all.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/147244-rovers-get-the-go-ahead-for-stadium/


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: red sheldon on Friday, July 20, 2012, 22:50:57
They could do a Reading or Brighton, their crowds will go up for a season or two, then drift away when they realise that league one is their limit.

I don't think that even the most blinkered fan can say that Reading's crowds have gone up for a season or two then drifted away, if you look at their average crowd at Elm Park of 347 and a dog and compare that with now, obviously Madejski's money has helped in bringing in success on the pitch too, but be fair


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 20, 2012, 23:16:15
Bristol Rovers won't rise solely on the basis of a new ground. Once upon a time supporters immediately associated relocations or re-builds with instant success but it's not the case. It's happening too often now for a start.

Rovers will rise (like most clubs) when money is thrown at them. Blackburn have vast wealth but their owners have little experience within the football industry and it took Mike Ashley a few years to get the hang of it.

Whelan, Al-Fayed, Fernandez and the Mittal's, Madejski, Liebherr (then his estate) and Coates all threw money at their respective clubs and it worked out for them. Fulham and QPR still don't have shiny new homes either. Southampton's big move was a failure until Liebherr bought them.

10 years ago Swansea were bottom of the Football League with Nick Cusack acting as Player-Manager. They're now a Premier League team managed by Michael Laudrup. It shows that anything can happen to any club when money is presented to them.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: walcot red on Saturday, July 21, 2012, 07:15:59
Isn't Rovers new ground only able to get the go ahead if Sainsbury's get planning permission to build on the Memorial ground?


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, July 22, 2012, 10:26:23
Isn't Rovers new ground only able to get the go ahead if Sainsbury's get planning permission to build on the Memorial ground?

Only in as much that they need to sell the land to finance the UWE stadium. But the city council already approved a revamped Mem there. Assume a smaller supermarket wouldn't pose much issue... But you never know. There have been a few complaints over traffic issues on Filton Ave etc.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 22:01:59
Sainsbury application went through this evening looks like everything is in place whether they go down or not. Would love to have some good news on the cg its been holding us back off the pitch for far too long


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 22:18:15
Sainsbury application went through this evening looks like everything is in place whether they go down or not. Would love to have some good news on the cg its been holding us back off the pitch for far too long

Yes, even if it was an improved/enlarged town end, moved back a bit, to start with.  Annoying how nothing has moved on in what seems like 20 years of talk.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 00:54:29
Sadly one of my best mates is a Gashead and he's buzzing over the news, I said it's a shame you'll have a 21k new ground in the Conference  :D


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: leefer on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 06:38:27
Sainsbury application went through this evening looks like everything is in place whether they go down or not. Would love to have some good news on the cg its been holding us back off the pitch for far too long

Good news for Rovers and Sainsburys....shocking news for all the local shops and services in the vicinity.

Wipeout time for them.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 08:44:02
Sadly one of my best mates is a Gashead and he's buzzing over the news, I said it's a shame you'll have a 21k new ground in the Conference  :D

10 years ago Swansea were in a similar position, look at them now.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 09:14:27
Its getting depressing seeing other clubs getting the go ahead for new stadiums. Today can fuck off.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 10:13:50
I wonder if you get nectar points with a match day ticket?


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 10:18:24
I think you're missing something here numbnuts.

Sainsbury's are building on the old ground. The new ground is out of town linked with UWE.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 11:26:45
I think you're missing something here numbnuts.

Sainsbury's are building on the old ground. The new ground is out of town linked with UWE.

There is a Sainsburys opposite where the new ground will be  :D (I'm an ex-UWE student)


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 11:34:14
And another one two miles up the ring road at Emersons Green. Does Bristol really need another Sainsbury's? Not that I care.....


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 11:56:32
Couldn't be arsed to read it. Out of town? I'd imagine gas fans had enough of travelling in the past.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 11:58:34
Couldn't be arsed to read it. Out of town? I'd imagine gas fans had enough of travelling in the past.
Once a pikey always a pikey.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:00:04
Does Bristol really need another Sainsbury's?

somebody has to employ that uneducated lot


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:13:57
There is a Sainsburys opposite where the new ground will be  :D (I'm an ex-UWE student)

I work in the area and traffic will be a nightmare on gameday, although it is walkable from Parkway station.

Not great for boozers though


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:17:35
somebody has to employ that uneducated lot
The extra fingers on each hand come in useful for stacking shelves.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:17:54
10 years ago Swansea were in a similar position, look at them now.

Darlington?


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:19:58
Darlington?
True but they had an outright conman and scallywag as Chairman called George Reynolds.


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:22:18
True but they had an outright conman and scallywag as Chairman called George Reynolds.
Pox?


Title: Re: Rovers' new ground
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 17, 2013, 12:25:26
Pox?
He probably had a pox when he came out of prison!