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Di Canio in Swindon manager talks

Paolo Di Canio is set to meet Swindon chairman Jeremy Wray to discuss becoming the club's new manager, BBC Wiltshire understands.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/9482709.stm

don't do it jeremy.
he'll either fuck the job up completely or fuck off to a bigger club asap.
ady boothroyd is the man for the job!

At least we'll have a song.

D I Canio (To the tune of D I S C O)

Do it Jezza, do it.

Prefer Di Canio over Rix and Magilton
Even prefer him over Trollope and Bodin to, yes we might fuck off asap, but for him to do that, we need to be doing well.
He will be passionaate, and it will get the majorty of the fans excited, and probably sell a few more season tickets..

Make it so, Mr Wray...

Do it mr chairman

Love this as well

I think is was Spence that said it could be a car crash, but it would be an exciting journey.

I'd subscribe to that. In reality he is a likely or unlikely to be a good manager as Bodin. Less experienced, but better contacts? But he will generate fan interest.

Is this the type of manager we need? I'd still go boring and experienced if available,  but at east its not another been round the block Rix type.

As pretty much everyone agrees, this could well be a disaster, but now the name has been mentioned officially, even the most sceptical would surely have to admit that going for a trollope/magilton after this would now be a real anti climax....

If he gets the job do we have to call him Il Duce????

We can do a Fulham if he gets the job, but instead of MJ we could get a statue of Mussolini

YES YES YES!

I'm torn. My heart says appoint him, my head says stay well clear. Bloody hell....

Nah...

"Who needs Mourinho.... We've got Di Canio... We've got Di Canio.... We've got Di Canio"

Same, if it happens I'll be buzzing and shitting it at the same time.

...like an incontinent bumble bee in flight.

Which is what makes football good.

King might not have been our best manager, but his questionable style and wilingness to chase games means he produced many of the most memorable games in the past decade or more. In my opinion of course.

I think if we do it will make for some pretty interesting press interviews!

Even to the most politically left wing Swindon fans, Di Canio must be looking a whole lot better now we have been linked to Rix :-/

Luckily it's not a choice between the two.

I'm sure they'll have no problem with it given that the majority of fascist policies are left-wing in nature.

Could be quite an exciting appointment, and well worth a go. Hope he brings his boots

Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick....the CG was used as a POW camp to lock up Italian fascists....appointing one as manager is just wrong in every way.

Yeah I knew about the use of the CG as a POW camp - I've made no comment either for or against Di Canio's appointment - just an observation that many elements of Fascist politics have a left wing slant to them.

My view is given that the desire of the club is to be more 'family friendly' and 'community oriented', Di Canio's politics is likely to prove a distraction - therefore on that basis he's probably unsuitable and I'll be surprised if he gets the job. On a personal note I couldn't give a damn about a manager's politics as long as he doesn't bring the club into disrepute.

I wish that people would get over the whole facist thing..so fucking what.. Moriniho is an egotistical fuckwit, Wenger is a cheese eating surrender monkey, Hart is an incompetent twat, Hoddle believes that disabled people were bad in a previous life but you would welcome him with open arms. I will love it if Di canio comes to the CG, i am fed up to the back teeth will us taking the sensible option and getting no-where, lets shake it up a bit and see what happens, yes it might be a car crash but what a fucking ride it will be.   

I've heard he's house-hunting in Shaw as we speak. football's meant to be fun isn't it. This is about as exciting as the whole of last year put together - in the same as sitting on the edge of a plane waiting to jump is exciting: you're bricking it, it'll be over before you know it, but it'll be pretty memorable along the way. That's worst case.

Best case is he's the next Mourinho. He's a footballer with political views. That in itself, makes him and Clarke Carlisle the only footballers who even know what Question Time is.

Of course a manager's politics with a small p are his own business...but when you openly espouse fascist policies that many STFC fans and players in the past fought against and in some cases died for, then it shows an alarming lack of sensitivity to even consider.

As I said elsewhere, I can only assume such unsuitable candidates are being thrown in to soften us up for a safe pair of hands.

Did we fight against fascism or did we fight against a country that happened to be fascist?

After the crap of this season just gone, the one thing that has brightened my mood, is the fact that this Di Canio rumour has legs. I can imagine now the buzz before the 1st game if he gets the job. Even Mex might smile! He might as people say be awful, but it certainly wont be boring. I don't like boring.

Rix shouldn't be allowed within 250 metres of the County Ground.

Magilton is a scummer, a tool and a failure.

di Canio is completely unproven, unstable and is a fascist. He admitted himself that his fascist salute was towards the hardcore Lazio fans who are self-proclaimed racists... I expect some Town fans would be equally upset if a Che Guevara adoring communist like Cristiano Lucarelli or similar was appointed.
 

I don't want any of them anywhere near this club for footballing and non-footballing reasons.

Agree with that, except Rix should be 250 miles not metres.

I just want a manager who has us winning football matches, and a manager that gets us promoted from League 2.
It could be fucking Bin Laden back from the dead for all I care.

and I do see the hypocrisy in me supporting Hoddle but his beliefs are religious which is an entirely different kettle of brainwashed fish

You see, that is exactly what I don't understand... a political leaning (either way) doesn't bother me, yet a convicted paedo does. I think it underlines what level of tolerance i do or don't have. Di Canio, despite holding views that some folk don't agree with, has never actually done anything wrong that we know of. He hasn't advocated eugenics, he doesn't appear to have had any issues playing alongside or being friendly with people from other nations, races, or creeds. To my knowledge, he's never hurt anyone bar Paul Allcock, and doesn't preach virtiolic hatred.

He's alright really. He just has views and opinions like everyone else. In my eyes, the persuasion (fascist, communist, mad religious dude like Hoddle) shouldn't matter a jot.

Word!

Great post. Thought crime is not an actual crime is it.

Yet he expresses his admiration for Mussolini and the far-right supporters of Lazio who are openly racist - I'm not saying that he's a violent racist who will immediately sack Amankwaah, Lecsinel etc but just that his political leanings make me feel uncomfortable. I'd rather have di Canio at the club than Rix. I could stomach di Canio as I admired him as a footballer if nothing else.


edit: And now more than ever, the club need to appoint someone who the fans will unite behind...

Agree.  

Fair point... and i felt really weird submitting a serious(ish) post not wholely about football!

I suppose i shouldn't mention that i think Hitler was good at speeches and admirable in his initial economic turnaround in Germany for fear of suppering my managerial chances... ;)

I agree with you as well as to an extent I don't really care what a manager believes but di Canio has never hidden his admiration of Fascismo so it's more relevant to me. I realise I'm in a small minority of people who give a shit!

However if it was a scientologist, I'd hope the individual would be run out of town with pitchforks...

Di Canio is so alright that someone like Sinisa Mihajlovic, noted for his racist abuse of Viera, and connections to Serb ethnic cleansing warlords like Slobodan Milosovic and Arkan, claims to be well to Di Canio's left on the when it comes to views held.  Mihajlovic has tried to live down his past, and is now Bologna boss and it is of course possible for people to see the error of their ways.

Di Canio in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8Uav7EPlQ

Sounds like some on here will unite behind Di Canio and goose step down the A420

Of course he's perfectly entitled to his opinions. Totally irrelevant to the position of manager, keep politics out of sport, I completely agree.

But when he publicly espouses fascism, openly salutes an acknowledged gang of hardcore neo-Nazi hooligans and describes them as his "camerati", then HE is bringing politics into sport. Then it's no longer a matter of private belief but of public statement, by doing this, and doing it repeatedly, he brings himself and his employers into disrepute. And appointing him would reflect on the club's reputation, like it or not.

Look at it this way, would you feel the same way if he'd openly expressed his admiration for Bin Laden? And waved an "Al Qaeda are ace" flag at a mob of jeering terrorist supporters? I wouldn't want someone like that associated with the club, don't think many would. Some things are beyond the pale, and rightly so.

Absolutely agree.

also this is the man di Canio loves:

[url width=277 height=307]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M5mQhY1RgcI/S52EfGt16RI/AAAAAAAAH04/YO-Kkgj0nPg/s400/Hitler_Mussolini.jpg[/url]

He's currently a pundit of Mediaset Premium which is the equivalent of Sky Sports and ESPN.

They cover Italian Serie A matches and matches from other top leagues.

Here he is having a rant at the Lazio president after they lost to Roma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTupklegV4k

I could just imaging something similar happening with our board...

Spot on Paul. Truly worried by how much support there is for Di Canio.

for football reasons alone,he shouldn't even be in the running.
employing him would be as insane as he is

I didn't get a word of that.

The guy is not a racist, he's doesn't incite hatred. He believes certain fascist ideologies.

There is a difference between that and in your words 'waving a flag with Al Qeada are ace'' on it and publicly advocating terrorism.

Bloody hell...

If i am being honest i hadn't really thought of this side of things,explained fully it could cause problems.

To be frank i am astonished he is getting an interview with his past history as explained.
Would i want him here,not sure at all now.

Why for football reasons arriba,was a great player,has his badges and has to cut his teeth someware,the lowest league that we are now in seems a reasonable place to start.
Many good managers have been loopy or racist,give you Clough as loopy and Atkinson as racist,the list is long.

Basically accusing the Lazio board and Lotito of mis-managing the side. He goes on to say that Zarate is no good and for the money they spent on him should contribute a lot more to games.

Basically he is very opinionated and will stand his ground. He's not a yes man....

The guy is a fascist, not a racist and does not incite hatred.

Can somebody tell me the problem with him having strong beliefs?

He performed a fascist salute towards the openly and popular racist Lazio fans - perhaps not inciting racial hatred himself but supporting them is bad enough. That is why I take exception to it.



Can I post the photo of Mussolini's corpse yet?

we need rebuilding.if he does any good he will move on as soon as someone bigger comes in.
we want someone who will be focussed on stfc,not getting up the football ladder.
he's also not the most stable person is he.
as for badges,almost anyone can get them,but there is so much more to being a good football manager.getting the right players and then getting them playing for you.
di canio will upset players i'm sure,and i'm not conviced he has a clue about the basement division,or the contacts for getting players in.

Can you prove to me that all Lazio fans are racist? Fascist yes. Please don't confuse the two.

That salute is wrong and is associated with Hitler and the Nazi's but that's not what Di Canio and the Lazio fans use it to represent.

Which, whilst it looked good to begin with, was an inflationary economic policy that only avoided runaway inflation by invading other countries.  It's the only realistic reason for the invasion of the USSR, which was military suicide (or milicide).

I don't like fascists.  If Di Canio wasn't a fascist, I'd love the appointment (and yes, I know the difference between Italian Fascism and German Nazism).

It was the Soviets that goose-stepped.  The Nazis stopped it sometime in the 30s.  As for the Italians, insert your own surrender type gag here.

Interesting article here

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article413394.ece

Are you a Lazio fan?

I didn't say that all Lazio fans are racist or fascist. Di Canio admitted that the gesture was aimed at a minority - are you seriously denying that there is a strongly racist element amongst Lazio fans? http://fourfourtwo.com/news/italy/78401/default.aspx

Unless I'm mistaken, the Nazi salute was derived from the Roman salute that Mussolini also favoured. Aside from that, Di Canio has repeatedly stated his admiration for a man who supported Hitler. I don't really see how it's hard for you to understand why it makes me feel uncomfortable?

Quick honest question, did Di Canio's fascist tendencies cause any issues or raise concerns when he played here? I can't remember, but then I struggle to remember anything outside the last 6 months.

Not that I can recall. Within the context of being a boyhood Lazio supporter and admirer of Mussolini, the salute probably didn't mean much at all but the connotations of it are what worries me.

He's publicly and repeatedly saluted his "camerati" in a notorious neo-Nazi hooligan gang who delight in displays such as this:

[url width=400 height=272]http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,27242,00.jpg[/url]

The banner, held by the Ultras he's sieg hieled repeatedly, reads "Auschwitz your country, the oven your home". Go on, tell me it's just "banter"

Looks photoshopped........

No, but their Ultras are. It was the Ultras he was part of before he turned pro, the Ultras he was saluting and they are openly neo-Nazi

And another

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/2998793/Talking-Sport-Di-Canio-paints-odd-picture-with-views-on-Mussolini.html

It would appear it's not as black and white as some would make it out to be

Di Canio would bring excitement.

I am currently bored and fed up with STFC with the last season one big bore and yawn. Don't want Rix, clapped when Magilton was run over by a taxi outside the Park End Club in Oxford.

Was excited when Macari, Hoddle and Wise were bought into the Club and would be again with Di Canio.

Something different, exciting and all this facist stuff a load of bollocks.
Di Canio is exciting. Pushing Refs, Stopping a game by catching a ball when a player was down injured when in a goal scoring position.

All exciting stuff. Supporting Swindon at present is dull.

Bring in Di Canio......get publicity and get the excitement back.

Bring it on..........the other candidates (other than Hoddle) simply don't get me excited. Roller Coaster maybe but I want August to look forward to.

Simple here goes.

If you or me has a strong belief then the world is no wiser..no one gives a shit,no one gives a dam.
When a political leader,a boss or indeed a football manager representing many people then thats when the problem starts.

Racist equalls fascist by the way,exactly the same bar the shouting if you want to quibble,may be different in a technical nerdy way but basicly is the same.
If you believe that murdering Jews by the million is ok then i would equate that to racism.

No, it became a public issue when he went back to Italy, rejoined Lazio and started (repeatedly) saluting their neo-Nazi ultras with the Nazi salute. And published his autobiography in which he described Mussolini as "misunderstood".

There's actually a lot to read about it.

Seems not so much that he admired him for what he did, rather he is fascinated by him. I find Hitler a very interesting person and he had some impressive qualities, doesn't mean I think he was right.

If he got appointed and then started talking about us being the master club of league 2 while attempting to annex the kassam and memorial ground, give out badges to all female swindon supporters who have 6 or 7 children and makes membership of the junior robins compulsory i might care abit more. Its more his lack of knowledge of league 2 and the players that we need to bring in that i care about

No it doesn't.

Yes but you don't have Fuhrer tatooed on your arm or go round making Nazi salutes to known neo-Nazi hooligans do you? Soft soap it all you want, Di Canio knows what the Lazio Ultras stand for, he knows damn well what Mussolini stood for (including the anti-Jewish laws and deportations to death camps) and he knew damn well what he was doing. And still "admires" both

A lot of people walk around with Che Guevara T-shirts Paul

Reading on, it seems as though he didn't even like Mussolini much. He just finds him a very interesting person.

And exactly how much experience did Macari have of the basement when we pissed the league with record points?

Being a Fascist and a Nazi are different.

Do a bit of research on Fasicm in Italy.

So you've got no response to the image Paul posted?

I think Paul vs Verve might end in a stalemate... i like not caring about things like this, makes life easier!

I've seen it. It doesn't change the facts.

It doesn't change what fact?

Are you a Lazio fan or not btw?

Err Lou had experience of the ManUre way of creative accountancy....stood him in good stead.

You see, I keep reading this:


Which is true, he did say that. But would you believe it, some sections of the press decide to jazz it up up bit. Who'da thunk it.

What he actually says adds a little balance

It doesn't change the fact that Italian Fascism and Nazism are different.

No i'm not a Lazio fan. I am from an Italian background though and understand the country and it's history.

Di Canio is far right and was fascinated by Mussolini. He DID NOT admire him and he found Mussolini's actions vile.

:D



Fact is a new manager would be good as an old manager here at present.
Macari was an ex player starting out,as is Di Canio.

I do.

I repeat. He DID NOT admire Mussolini.

I think you're right in that he has been misquoted somewhat but that article was written well before his actions at Lazio. I'm concerned that he's happily saluting a group of openly racist right-wing fascists who admire Mussolini.

Di Canio's definitely a bit nuts and that's one reason I don't want him at Swindon.


Mussolini (Italian fascists) stood side-by-side with Hitler (Nazi). There are differences, no doubt, but they're both still responsible for the deaths of innocent people.

Done quite enough thanks. They're localised variants of the same creed. But tbh I wasn't directly equating the two here anyway - even if you accept there is a difference, the swastika is an explicitly Nazi symbol. As is the Totenkopf. Both are used frequently by Lazio's Ultras, who also have a long and serious history of extreme racism. Hence my deliberate use of the term neo-Nazi, as distinct from neo-fascist.

So much so that he had "Dux" tatooed on his arm and the fasces emblem used by Mussolini tattooed on his back




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I'm not concerned about how he feels about Mussolini, Hitler, Che Guevara or Obama - the fact he made fascist salutes with (rightly or wrongly) Nazi connotations to a group of Lazio fans who - as Paul demonstrated - are openly racist and admire Mussolini makes me feel uncomfortable.

If we appoint Di Canio, the club will become a fucking circus. I don't want Swindon to be seen as a club that welcomes fascists, communists, neo-liberals, atheists or aliens. I want to see a stable football club with a manager who knows League 2 and can get us back out of the basement. If Di Canio was apolitical I wouldn't support his appointment either.

I'm actually warming to the idea of Di Canio. It is a big risk and even yesterday I wasn't so keen on the idea but after hearing some of the other names mentioned I almost wanted to cry. Rix? You cannot be serious. I'd still be happy with Trollope but tbh if it's Di Canio it's going to excite people, get them interested, boost shirt and ticket sales, get a new wave of optimism around the club. We had it with Wise and it got us out of L2. Same could happen again.

I'm aware of the facist stuff. Let's be honest he'll know that he needs to pipe down when he's in a manager's role. If he want's to progress he'll have to. The only thing that would concern me is that he will jump ship. How long will it take for West Ham to come calling? Tbh though if he manages 12 months with us and takes us up I won't be complaining.

I think his salutes were stupid, that much is undeniable. But it wouldn't be the first time a footballer did something a bit (or a lot) stupid.

Although, his reasons for that were explained in the first article I posted.

I would,the thought of Money,Rix or Magilton and the long endless list of no good fuckwits fills me with dread.
As i have said Bodin for me though a new manager(ie Di Canio)would cheer me more.

Yes Paul.

If we are to judge the man on his actions and thoughts, should we not listen to what he has to say?

Yes he was expressing his solidarity with "those who share my ideas", a notorious gang of neo-Nazi hooligans. His autobiography's also got a fair bit about his own hooliganism as a member of the Ultras himself

Of course we should. I'm just not taking it entirely at face value as you are.

Thats very true and i agree 100% with that sentiment, But I see two very different situations and characters

Let's not forget as well that the fascist salute was adopted by the Nazi's.

Much like the Swastika was. Doesn't mean that the swastika always represents Nazism, because it doesn't. 

I missed that first article, sorry. It is an interesting read but written by the author of his autobiography, so perhaps a little biased as well. Above all that article paints him as a little simplistic, reactionary and foolish - not qualities I'd like to see in a manager. Although he is certainly passionate.

We're going round in circles here a bit. Can we all just get behind the No Scummers at Swindon (NSAS pronounced en-sass) movement?

I'd like to see a group of Town fans behind the Arkells dressed like this:
[url width=315 height=289]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fDMIk7sCH98/TB4uhuU7xyI/AAAAAAAAAiE/41SW810hpi0/s320/nonce-sense.jpg[/url]

Right, so you think the Lazio Ultras he's so fond of repeatedly saluting with a possibly just a tiny bit fascist salute wave the swastika as a nod to ancient Indian religious symbols, entirely devoid of any Nazi connotations? Sure

But people said he 'admires' Mussolini are taking that from the same paragraph where he said he found Mussolini's actions vile. Maybe I am taking his quotes at face value because it's all I have to go by.

I presume you are taking his tattoo's at face value, although he has (tried to) explain that.

He believes he was giving a fascist salute, not a Nazi salute.

At least that's what he says. If we aren't going to accept what he says, we can stop saying he says he admired Mussolini.

Like short and Scottish and short and Italian!

But i get what you are saying Town Fan,in a higher division i would see a new manager a bigger risk than one in Lge 2,tend to agree with Duke of Banbury on this with a new sense of exitement and scandal being needed.

I think he's trying to have it both ways - fascist for the home crowd who love it, just fascist-curious for the foreign press. It's pathetically transparent, like Nick Griffin trying to deny his conviction for anti-Semitic racism, long history of Holocaust denial etc and I can't believe people are so desparate to have this psycho in charge of our club they're prepared to kid themselves to this extent

There are varying degrees of what the Ultra's are and represent. They are not all in the same boat. Your right (no pun intended) some sections have used the Swastika regularly in the past, they have also been a section that have been openly racist. However you cannot categorically state that ALL of these Ultras carry these beliefs. They are are all fascist, Lazio as a club has near enough always been right-wing. Roma on the other hand have politically always leaned heavily to the Left, hence the increased rivalry.

Paolo Di Canio isn't a racist, a nazi and doesn't represent or indeed give consent to any of the ideologies incorporated in Nazism or racism. He believes certain (not all) elements of Fascism. The salute he used was a 'Roman salute', a gesture which represents Fascism and which came to prominence before Nazism.

I'm not sure of him.

His views are extreme which will always associate him with Nazism, but this does not necessarily make him a Nazi nor a racist. I don't think it's anywhere near as transparent as Griffin.

I do think we don't have enough to condemn the man and I for one find it quite refreshing that a footballer is capable of some depth of thought.

He calls them vile, in fact.

I Have highlighted where i think the problem is here because even though you and sonic can post links to the shit he has done others have post good enough replies to his explanations why .Please don't take this the wrong way Paul but when you have a bee in your bonnet nothing or anything will change your mind. As you rightly said your opinion is based on what you THINK he is trying to say and not actually fact.


You say he ran around with hooligans etc when he was younger well that's a few of us on here fucked then isn't it. People can change people can grow up.

Is he the right man for the job?I don't know.Am i prepared to back him if he was to be given the job yes i am. You got to draw the line somewhere   

Bit harsh, most footballers are very capable of thought.


It's just not approaching rational thought.

Anyway, this has been an educational thread for me.

I thought the rivalry between Roma and Lazio was purely because they are local. Had no idea it was politically motivated as well.

I think you're making a too simplistic historical comparison between Nazism and Italian Fascism. The Nazi's raison d'etre was racial purity and the 'Jewish Question', which was unique in the history of European dictatorships.

Conversely Italian Fascism from the start was based on a concoction of many political philosophies yet racial purity was never originally its primary consideration - many members of the Italian Fascists were Jews. Italy never had systematic death camps and yes they collaborated with the Nazis at times but then it's difficult to say no - like most other European Countries who participated - when you have a gun / tank pointed at your head (metaphorically speaking). Mussolini had a contentious relationship with Hitler - mainly 'cos the Italians were crap at fighting so Mussolini needed his help - therefore his relationship with Hitler was more on pragmatic terms than anything else. And we're not exactly whiter than white either when dealing with dictatorial nutcases for political pragmatic reasons a la Tony Blair and Gaddafi (http://www.islammonitor.org/uploads/pics/blair&gaddafi.jpg).

Anyway I have no reason to believe that Di Canio personally is a racist nor would pick or buy players on that basis - it's easy to label or generalise - Di Canio himself has denied that he's racist (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1506262/Im-a-fascist-not-a-racist-says-Paolo-di-Canio.html) and for those reasons alone I would not object to him being Swindon manager unless he proved otherwise.

However that said we need a manager we can all support next season and obviously, judging at least by this forum's discussions, that would not happen - so for that reason I hope he doesn't get the job.

I must admit I wanted to find an angle around old Paolo’s salute.  We all do something a little stupid from time to time and based on other applicants being pushed about, as crackers as it sounds Di Canio is an "interesting" option.  However, pic below is case open and closed.  The look on his face sums up.  

[url width=426 height=316]http://www.football-hooligans.org/images/hooligans/europe/paolo_di_canio1.jpg[/url]

While the old tarring brush and pot is out, along side a Paedo and a nutter that head butts his own players whatever your thoughts are on his political outlook the salute in the great scheme of things doesn't compare in terms of a rap sheet.

This is great.....give it to him....

About 120 degrees...

Isn't it a Roman salute originally which wasn't fascist.

Yes, and Hitler was originally an artist, but a Portrait of him does not indicate a loving of the arts.

Maybe if we all chant Prutton he will step out of the dug out and give the Roman emperor thumbs down.........i would love that!!

And why the fuck does it matter? It's a football club, who gives a toss about what political views he has. It has nothing to do with football. Stop being a whiny little bitch.

Behave yourself....

You seem to have an unhealthy hatred of the man. Perhaps its you with the extreme views?

Would it bother you if a convicted sex offender was appointed manager?

Annoyed with ignorant people with ignorant views. They can't accept that they're wrong.

Yep because that is a vile crime.

Is Di Canio a convicted anything then? Poor comparison Si expect better from you.

People do and say things in the heat of the moment, often without thinking of the consequences.

Paolo Di Canio was a 100% committed player with every club he turned out for, but imagine what it would be like playing for the team you idolised as a youngster and in front of people that were directly from your backround?

As DRS mentioned, a lot of us made mistakes in our past, but people can and do change.

So he admires (In part) Mussolini, big fucking deal.

A lot of people, myself included, admire Churchill. That is the Winston Churchill who guided us through WW2, not the Winston Churchill who was nicknamed the 'Butcher of Gallipoli' due to huge fuck up in WW1 which directly led to the deaths of thousands of British and Commonwealth troops.
Nor do I admire the Winston Churchill who was virulently anti semetic, in his own words: "And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people..."
Nor the Winston Churchill who advocated the use of machine guns against striking miners in Britain, or the Winston Churchill who even found positives in Hitler:"One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as indomitable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations."

Perhaps Paul and Sonic will find it hard to admire Winston Churchill now, after all he even admired fucking Mussolini! in his words again:  "It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies."

Life must be great in a black and white world.....

I'm not sure Winnie is up for our job mind. Unless he's the candidate Reg is teasing?

Of course it matters.  Football and politics are inseparable.  England giving the Nazi salute even though Hitler wasn't even present.  West Germany winning the world cup in 1954 to help rebuild the nation (see 'The Miracle of Bern').  The politics behind Celtic and Rangers.  The history of Dynamo Kyiv. Franchise even existing.

Politics and football (and to a wider extent sport) can not be separated.  That's why it matters.  Had Di Canio not given the salute and just written his book, I think most would be ok with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zet_UFV_8Yg&feature=player_embedded#at=39

Not manager related.
What a player he was.

Well said.

A very dead Winnie would probably be able to inspire more passion in the team than Malpas or Hart.

They do indeed. But Di Canio's done this three or four times on camera, more off camera. Hardly heat of the moment. Look, I can kind of understand the "Don't give a fuck, only care about the football" approach. Fair enough. But the man's a self-declared life-long fascist, for fuck's sake, who salutes neo-Nazi hooligans and refers to them as his comrades. Don't lets try and dress it up. And as for the line that Mussolini's Italian fascists (you know, the ones who passed anti-Jewish racist laws and shipped Italian Jews off to German death camps) were "nice fascists" some are trying to peddle.... give me strength.

Bloody hell, we really 'shall go on to the end'.  In this case beyond it.

Don't forget Gazza playing the invisible flute in a Rangers vs Celtic match.  Nobody quotes Gazza as a legence to anyone, so why do people on here whinge so much about Di Canio?   ::)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, granted, so think what you like, as long as Di Canio gets us up the leagues, I am happy

COYR !!!!!!!!!  :toocool:

This is football, not an election.

It's not a comparison though. What's a previous conviction got to do with football?

I am honestly indifferent about the whole thing. In my mind the appointment of Di Canio would be great for the club in terms of bringing back some excitement and reinvigorating people's waning interest. But I do also buy into the argument that he's not necessarily the right man in the long term.

However, I fail to see how Di Canio's fascist ideologies will create a "media circus" around the club like some have claimed. No doubt some press will pick up on Di Canio's fascist roots and will report on it but my opinion is that any media hype will be because of Di Canio's stature in football relative to STFC's current status.

I get it, Paul and Sonic are very much against the idea, but I think you'll be heavily outnumbered by people who either don't know about Di Canio's fascism or just don't care.

Rix - criminal
Di Canio - not a criminal

Good post. Agree with it all.

Maybe Di Canio could install some fascist-style discipline in the team. Just don't expect JFL to hang around for long.

Oh, I think we will. Absolutely. But his public stance does, whether we like it or not, reflect on the club, any club, that chooses to employ him in a position of authority. As I said earlier, I suspect a lot of people would be arguing on a different side if it was an al Qaeda supporter we were talking about

Wait a minute.

Have Mussolini and/or Churchill applied?

Enough with the history lessons from all sides... I just want a manager in who will release the chaffe and re-build this club.

But what's it got to do with football?

I would never defend anyone who openly agreed with the murder of people on the basis of their race, but Di Canio's never said anything like that, has he?

In fact, apart from stupidly saluting the Lazio Ultras a few times and admitting he admired (in part) Mussolini, he's done fuck all.

Or are we to believe that anyone with far right views is a card carrying nazi, who wanks over Hitler, and anyone who has far left views thinks Stalin was a sound bloke?

Swindon have a youth team, and robinettes.

If he scares the Robinettes off then that's a positive.

Ok maybe i misunderstood why you were asking if he would be happy for rix a convicted criminal to apply

Paul

Just the other day you applauded a TEF member on their decision to stand for the UKIP, which to my understanding, is a far right group. A toned down version of the BNP, if you will.

So who is drawing the lines of acceptance here?

In what way can you compare Di Canio's political beliefs with terrorists? I find that absurd.

We will go down a very dangerous route if we stop employing managers because of their political stance.

Paul is blinded by hatred.  ;)

Well, just for the record, I'm with Paul and Sonic on this one. It doesn't sit well with me at all.

Even putting all of that to one side. The bloke's a loon. If he was appointed I reckon he would be spectacularly successful in which case he would fuck off after 6 months in the job to West Ham OR we would lose our first five games (God forbid) and he would say, "Fuck this, I don't need the aggro, I've got barrow loads of money...arrivederci" (except it would all be in Italian..not just the last word) and that would be it.

I don't even want to find out if he would be a good manager.

The problem with this situation isn't so much the fans but players also.
Lets face it Prutton is a Gypsy,Ferry acts gay and the young polish keeper may be Jewish.
If Paolo gets in they will all go missing,thats not to say most of them havn't been missing this season anyway.

But don't you see that in doing that, he is openly agreeing with the murder of people based on their race. Something like that is not just a meaningless action. It carries great weight and significance and gravitas. And if he doesn't realise that (and I'm quite sure he does) then I don't want him in charge of my club on the grounds of gross stupidity.

Out of interest what makes you say he is a loon(genuine question). What has he done in football which is what clearly matters here that makes him such a loon.

Where's Crispy gone in this discussion.  Im sure we could expect a few words of wisdom from him.

Probably about those bloody muslims taking our jobs until someone points out that Italian fascists aren't stricty muslims.

The answer is in your question FFS. That word stand. As in an election. If he'd won and then declared himself "His Excellency, Head of Government, Duce of Fascism, and Founder of the Empire" and established a dictatorship, I think Paul would have been less enthusiastic.

Anyway if the man is appointed and you all go and sing his name then fuck the lot of you, I'll be done with the club and this forum.

Thats absurd.

How do you know what his man management would be?

He's pretty much fallen out with every manager he's worked under. Highly volatile character. Not sure that makes him a loon though.

Which would be a great shame as we would all miss such a self opinionated spoilt fucking baby like you.

OST

The discussion on Nazism and racism has been done already.

Go back through the thread a bit.

I think Paul was applauding the decision to participate in the democratic process, the 6tradition of which despite its imperfections is something we can be proud of.

Maybe in the eyes of those who choose to care.


But we're not.

If you're not with me, you're against me

Paolo Di Canio, Paolo Di Canio!

Bye.  :bye:

I will. Because I really don't know whether his jiggy right arm proves he is a fascist or a bit dim like Gazza (do you remember when he played the imaginary flute to the Celtic fans while playing for Rangers).

If he really believes in the master race and wants to use the post to promote his views then clearly he shouldn't be near the club. I can't be fucked to read back through the pages to find out.

Blimy, this has all created rather a stir hasn't it??

I have to be honest and say that I am with Paul and Sonic on this one.  PDC's beliefs as I shall call them leave me feeling more than a little uncomfortable.  I dont think his fascist roots would cause a circus around the club, I just think he is the sort of individual who would intrigue the media and a circus would be created that way.  I cant really remember if they caused a huge stir during his playing career .... someone on here will be able to tell me I am sure ....

I remember when Wise/Poyet took over and from day 1 I was looking to see if Leeds had won because I was in fear they would take Wise, which they did ...... Could a similar scenario be on the horizon with Di Canio and West Ham??

Wray did say he wanted someone for the next 3/4 years.  I'd be amazed if PDC lasted beyond christmas!

What I dont want is everyone to lose the sight of the bigger picture.  Next year is a huge year for STFC, and the biggest decision with regards to what the next year could bring will be made in the next week.  We need to bounce out of this division first time of asking or we could be down here for the forseeable.

Us fans are never going to agree 100% on who we want/dont want to manage out Footy team.  God it would be dull if we did.

I just think we'd all be better off with a Trollope or a Money or a Parkinson or even a Bodin. Someone with a knowledge of football at this level.  A manager who would know his place and role.  After all there will never be any manager bigger than this wonderful football club!

I live in a country where democracy doesn't work.

To impose your beliefs on others and claim that a difference of opinion is wrong is rather hypocritical, don't you think?

He is clearly a very volatile individual...we've all seen him do crazy stuff on TV (I absolutely loved him as a player BTW). But to say he wears his heart on his sleeve would be a major understatement. It would take next to nothing in my opinion (and that's all it is) for him to just up sticks and go. I just can't see him staying anywhere close to a year and I think we can probably all agree that that's not what is needed right now. The more I think about it, it's just a really bad idea.

Even if he does well....he's a fucking Faschist...come on people...please be sensible.

Hoddle came close ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLsyNBnE5M

What the fuck is your point?

Herthab is a massive Jew, so if he likes him, we're all allowed to...

What do you have against fascism?

Over 40% of you have him as your preferred candidate FFS. Lovely atmosphere it'll be in the Town end in a year or so with all the 14 year old chavs givning it the fascist salutes.

fuck it I'm done with this.

The point is that a very string case has been made that he is neither a Nazi or a racist?

I think you're overreacting slightly.

:D

Lumps is complaining about the result of a poll.

Gotta love the irony.

All we need now is Ironside and we're on for a proper train-wreck.

Yes because we all started going to church when Hoddle took over didn't we. We all kicked fuck out of a taxi driver when wise took over didn't we. Give the fans more credit than that.

Speak for yourself,i always smoked a huge cuban cigar at matches while Kingy was the manager.

Wish people would stop mentioning crispy and ironside (not that there views are not welcome)

Just the fascism is not necessarily about racism. Mussolini was not a racist and as has been mentioned, Jews were part of the original fascist movement. He was actually tried to stand against Hitlers racist ethics, but was stuck between a rock and a hard place

It's all there on google, what a magnificent thing it is. try using it

I'm not, go back and read it properly. I made the comparison between someone who supports fascism and fascists with a hypothetical someone who publicly supports al Qaeda. Both of the things they support/espouse are equally murderous.  Both stances are repugnant. I'd want neither associated with my football club.

So you're now trying to say that fascism is always murderous?

Erm, he was. He hated Jews, passed anti-Jewish laws persecuting Jews, had Italian Jews rounded up into concentration camps and his own version of the "final solution" would have been to deport every Jew to a remote island. Less murderous than Hitler, perhaps, but hardly a model of race relations

http://www.haaretz.com/news/mussolini-i-ll-build-an-island-and-put-all-the-jews-there-1.4059
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3597570/In-defence-of-Il-Duce.html

Like the man said ...

I was merely suggesting the thread would be a much more interesting read for me if Ironside got in on the act too, given that him and Crispy are probably the only two posters who've ever really gotten under Paul's skin (although it looks as if Coca Fola is getting that way - keep plugging son).

No racial connotations at all.

I'm sitting in Paul's camp here. As I get older, more miserable and generally insane, I actually start to think what we represent as a club counts for more and the results slightly less.

Lets not kid ourselves - we don't represent success do we (bar a few honourable exceptions and those are pretty modest by the standards of the fucking Premier League big 4 that get shoved down our gizzards)

Right now if someone was able to guarantee promotion with Di Canio in charge I'd still have to think about it - and that's pretty much unheard of for me.

You're not getting away with that.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifesto_of_Race

You yourself Paul bemoan people who listen to the press without trying to find a balanced view.

The term practice what you preach springs to mind

I'm beginning to see what Di Canio is getting at.

Although I conceded to not having all the facts, unlike some.

Has Di Canio got the job yet

He probably hasn't even applied.  :D

OK, so a bloke who passes a law called "The Manifesto of Race" which asserts the racial superiority of the Aryan "race", strips Jews of their citizenship and denies them access to work, puts Jews in concentration camps, tells his mistress he's been a racist since 1921 (according to the mistress) and (again according to the mistress' diary) says "Those bloody Jews, they should be destroyed ... I'll build an island and put them all there" isn't a racist? Seriously?

His Mistress sounds like a right grass.

The irony is I still suspect he doesn't actually want it anyway - his agent is just using us as a stalking horse to get his name out there for "something better" (coaching staff at West Ham?)

A`Mistress should be seen and not heard. Can't believe the cheek of it all

No, it makes him a fascist. Keep up Paul :)

Went like a fucking train though. And always right on time.

(The quotes were taken from her diaries which she didn't intend for publication, FWIW, they were published a few years back by historians working on the archives of the time IIRC)

Fucking this

Proven Fact V's the word of a mistress

Wasn't ann Frank was it.

Writing in her own private diaries, not intended for publication, where she had no reason to lie.

And the "proven facts" you refer to, does include the small matter of a "Manifesto of Race" which (granted on a much lesser scale than the Germans) provided for the legal persecution of Jews. Those not in concentration camps that is. We're not talking WI here are we? Seriously, you're defending Mussolini now? Are you sure that's where you want to be?

Of course I'm not.

Just pointing out the FACTS that there is no evidence that Mussolini was racist, until his hand was forced (which it clearly was) by Hitler. An unverified source such as a supposed mistresses' diary doesn't really cut it Paul. Give me facts, figures, dates and actual quotes form the man himself.

But this is all about Di Canio anyway.

He himself has called the actions of Mussolini 'vile', so we are going off an a tangent here

You've both gone so far, you might as well fight 'til the death now.

In the same way that the BNP would maintain that they are not about racism.

Come on. Really?

Agree regarding the hype, that's the media circus I was referring to. I'm very much aware that I'm in a tiny minority here! I don't think there's anything wrong with people separating politics and football or simply not caring about Di Canio's political beliefs either.

July 1938. The Manifesto of Race. Jews are stripped of citizenship, denied employment and otherwise variously persecuted.

We are indeed. And on Di Canio, we're going round in circles. You're prepared to take his "fascist but not a racist" apologia at face value; I'm more of the inclination to look at what he's done rather than the rather mealy-mouthed excuses he's tried to make to the international press. If it looks like dogshit and smells like dogshit, I don't need to pick it up to check. Let's leave it at that.

I'm not going through it all again just because you can't be bothered to read the thread

Yeah, but http://youtu.be/FY6Gdx_EZVc

fuck me them last few pages took some reading.
will all be in vain as he wont get the job  ;D
 i aint getting into the fascism debate as i dont care.i am interested in what he will potetntially bring as a manager.
why does he want to come to us? why hasn't he took a job elsewhere? why not job in his home country?
all valid questions without even getting into plans for the club.i doubt he even knew where swindon was before this week.

I think this is the first time in years a thread that's turned political hasn't descended into personal abuse.



PaulD smells of urine.

Big fish in a small pond.

That's more a statement of fact, rather than personal abuse :)

Interesting article indeed. I don't know what the fuck to make of it all really.

Alright, go piss up a rope, fuckstick.

Me neither mate.

Nor does anybody else, how do you thing this thread reached 15 page so quickly?

The fact that a select group of swindon supporting bopards can discuss this so vehemently, suggests the 'media circus' theory wouldn't be far off the mark.

Still it would make things exciting. Last season was about as exciting as the muesli breakfast I've started having.

Careful.  You could drown in a bowl of muesli.



































You could be dragged under by a strong current.

(sorry)

A bit of lively debate is good though isn't it? I will say this as well. If push came to shove, I would have to take Di Canio, over that prick Magilton any day of the week.

Jesus fucking wept. That's bloody awful. And I think that's something we can all agree on

just hope it's not a cereal occurrence

Must admit that before today I couldn't actually tell you what fascism was or meant, other than the Mussolini angle. So I just did some Googling and I'm none the wiser - doesn't seem to be any clear definition. Though I couldn't find any current modern day definition that included the word racist or anything bad in fact. George Orwell said this about it, which to be honest is pretty much in line with my thinking....


As regards Mussolini, whilst he was a fascist it doesn't mean that all fascists are Mussolini - a mistake some people here seem to be making. Mussolini wasn't all bad either, as others have pointed out and I can't see any problem with taking an interest in him and his beliefs.

WTF? That was me, since when has a party founded by a Lib Dem and a Hungarian Jew and had candidates from all walks of life been a far right group? I'm afraid your understanding is very wrong BR

ghanimah is a fascist!

I've read some dick-waving TEF threads in my time, but this has to be the mother of them all.

Fuck off with your faux self-righteous indignation.

Fuck off with your Poxford / Wankbridge University educated (brainwashed) opinions. None of that bullshit impresses me.

If Di Canio is appointed, I'll back him. I'll do that because of his reputation as a footballer, his character, his potential and his obvious passion for the game.

If he comes out with any stupid political or religious based statements while he represents STFC, I'll join in with the lynch mob and will willingly slaughter him. Till then, leave the fucker alone and quit analysing his alleged past political beliefs.

If Wray appoints him, he'll probably divide opinion in many ways. He'll also unite the fanbase - if only for a while, depending on how successfull he is - in a way not witnessed since Dennis Wise came to town.

Surely that has to be a good thing?

I don't care about his political beliefs.

More about the fact his appointment would either lead to us becoming even worse, or him doing a great job and fucking off as soon as a Championship club comes along.

What's the point? Short term it'd be great for the entertainment and excitement of attracting such a big name, it'd boost ticket sales for sure, but long term it doesn't seem to have great benefits.

Never understood this argument.

Any manager that comes in and does a great job is going to fuck off as soon as a bigger club comes along.

Doesn't matter whether it is Bodin or PDC, they'll be gone like a shot. Except maybe Hoddle as he's past all that shit.

See where you're coming from, but Paolo Di Canio managing a team at the top of League 2 would be far more appealing to a lot of clubs higher up the ladder than say, Paul Bodin doing the same.

Di Canio, like Wise, would surely be gone in a flash.

There's nothing alleged about any of this, he wrote about his political beliefs in his autobiography.

And fuck off with your chippy "I'm working class and I don't take that middle class liberal shit" attitude. I was educated at the dreaming spires of  Park School in Walcot, Swindon College and Cheltenham and Gloucestershire CHE (now Univ of Gloucestershire).

You don't have to be middle class to not be a brainless twat.
 

God, that list of educational establishments sheds some light on things....


....mine is similar, which will probably explain just as much.

On the subject in question, while in a perfect world all extremists would be killed at birth by anal fire poker insertion, I'm kind of non plussed by Di Canio's polical leanings, however far right they may be.  I say that on the basis that, provided he is not an activist (at which point I'd be a lot more armchair annoyed and have to type lots on the subject) then I do not really see what business it is of ours unless he used his position at the club to express those views on, and influence, people.

I know PaulD took an extreme angle, by using the terrorist example as a comparison, but there is a difference.  I think I would equally be non plussed if our Manager held views suggesting he was a Marxist/Communist, but I'd be worried if he was actively involved in trying to topple our political system.  In the same way, he may be the opposite end of the politcal spectrum to me, but his support is of some of the ideology, not supporting a group looking to tak control of Europe in the 1940's.

He's undoubtably had a chquered past, but many people have.  Macari committed fraud, plenty of footballers have been convicted of assault, Harry Redknapp bankrupts clubs, and so on.  I happen to dislike, at least, his politcal convictions, but at least half the world probably do of mine I would guess.

I'm with Banbers. What was the other comment? "This season has been as dull as dishwater". Yup. Just imagine the feisty debate between the lefties and the righties it would generate (like this) for as long as he was here.

Personally I would like the whole of the Town End to give him a fascist salute when he walked out (whilst laughing at the same time) just to give Lumps and Paul apoplexy.

I agree with Nick

PDC gets my full backing - for too long we have lacked ANYONE who has the passion to inject life back into this club. The players, the fans and the board need a rocket up their arse and he is the man to deliver it.

This is the man who shocked us by pushing the ref over and equally shocked us by stopping play with an open goal opportunity when an opposition player was down injured. To me that displays both passion and compassion.

People didn't want ollie when he was clearly interested and now regret it - don't let this opportunity slip away, yes it may be tough at times for the board to manage PDC but businesses need challenge people to stop them becoming stagnent and we are teetering on the verge...

Glenn Hoddle has some fairly controversial views on the disabled, but I don't see many people kicking up about him being linked to the club.

As long as Di Canio kept his political opinions to himself and managed the club properly I'd be happy.

He won't get the job anyway.

I've not got involved with the political side of this debate as I don't know enough about it, but one thing that struck me is this:

PDC's background/views have clearly brought out some strong opinions from our fans as evidenced by the huge number of threads and posts on the subject before we know for sure the guy is even being considered.

However I don't remember this being talked about very much when he was a player - in the media or by Shef Weds or West Ham fans.

Is this then something that has only come to light recently? Were the fans of those clubs just willing to ignore it?

I'm not trying to diminish the views people have on this issue - if you feel strongly about something you're well within your rights to express your outrage - I just can't help feeling this side of things has been blown out of proportion somewhat.

I'm pretty sure he was found not guilty in a Court of Law? It was Hillier and Farrar who got done.

I've not got strong views on his political, or ideological beliefs either. What I do have is a dislike for being told by people that he's some kind of Holocaust lover, because he did a few salutes and said he admired some parts of a facist dictator's make up.

FWIW, I don't think he'll be coming. Not because of his political beliefs, but because the board won't see him as the best candidate for the job.
If he does though, he'll have my full backing. I'll just have to try and stop myself becoming a far right fanatic because he's here...

This.

Wouldn't be my first choice - I'd rather have Trollope or Money, for purely footballing reasons - but will get behind whoever gets the job.

Great post. Agree completely.

This pretty much sums it up

I am warming to PDC as new manager for the boost of a high profile new manager and what that will bring to the fanbase and club as a whole, I also probably wouldn't mind George Burley, I know hes had a couple of failures but hes an ex international manager and has a lot of contacts in the game.

Not keen on Trolly Dolly or Dicky Dosh but feel those two would be the cheap options.

Not sure who I want now, My 1st choice would be Hoddle, but don't think hes really in the frame.

Then i'm torn between the excitement , could be great, could be disaster of Di Canio,.  I'm not too fazed by he's views - as don't really remember it affecting his playing, don't remember him falling out with players, managers etc because of his political views, so don't see why it should be an affect in Management.
If after his interview, the board think his the man, i will be fully behind him


Now George Burley's name has cropped up, I would't mind him aswell as an experienced and well connected Manager.

 

i would be alot more optimistic if burley took over than di canio.
hoddle,boothroyd,burley,trollope,all good shouts and would suit us i think.

Generally speaking, have to say I'm quite impressed with the calibre of manager we're being linked with.  Hopefully, that is an indication that some or all of these candidates share the view of many of us that the natural home of a club like STFC is not in League 2.  I'm looking for someone who will take us up next year and at least have us in the play off mix the following year.  (Overly optimistic, maybe, but I'm a fan!)

Burley is someone I would be delighted with, by the way.  (Think my Scottish relatives would be interested by such an appointment as well.)  It didn't work out for him as Scotland boss, but that's hardly relevant to our situation.  His records at Hearts and Ipswich speak for themselves.  Of his other roles, he seemed to do OK at Southampton and Derby...it was only at Palace that things really didn't work out.

I want Di Canio if only to see who out of Lumpy, PaulD and Sonic commits suicide first!

We've got Di Canio, you've got fuck-all-io....

I thought this would get Ironside squirting the WD 40!

Haha, not  quite. I would actually prefer someone who knew div 3/4 better but can't deny the entertainment, especially on here!

I agree with that

It won't be Hoddle or Boothroyd.

i agree.hoddle would have been announced by now if he was taking it,and i dont think boothroyd applied for the job.

Boothroyd had an interesting season last year. Battling for promotion and fighting relegation in the same season.

Andy King reborn?

Aidy Boothroyd has no need to drop to League 2 just yet. We all laughed at Cotterill for thinking he was too good for L1 and, well, he got the Pompey gig. Boothroyd will still attract L1/Championship clubs.

Glenn Hoddle was a nothing story. It's annoying that the talk continued after Hoddle publicly ruled himself out on radio (which wasn't picked up by the Adver).

Dont want Boothroyd anyway. HOOF!

Make it happen Jw  :jawdrop:

Why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

soapy tit wank. If it's on google it must be true. I hear Wikipedia will be giving degrees soon!!

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