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Lovely stuff.

Good news, and good luck Zippy.

Deep joy

 :D

Good.

I hope the inept twat remains on the dole for the forseeable future

Phil King on BBC Wiltshire now ;D

Fantastic - best news all day!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_6901506,00.html

Great stuff.

No point in staying bitter about things Tans. All that counts now is the future not the past,

Not bitter mate, i just wish him failure thats all :D

Excellent news. Should put a few on the gate this weekend.

hmm as predicted by myself ages ago ..... Money and Trollope :D - 1st June 2011

 :pint: :D :bye: :clap:

So its a case of in with Zippy, out with Bungle.

erm where has it said that fatters?

can't see bodin wanting the job full time.

Sounds like a victorian whore house

Sorry wasnt clear there - I predicted Hart and McP would be gone ... Money and Trollope - wait and see

How very insightful!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

BBC in up-to-the minute pictorial representation of our great leader shock...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/9469955.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/9469955.stm)

A good time now to play some of the young'uns.
Put Billy Bodin and Jordan Pavett up front for the last two games, also put the likes of Abdul Said and Matt Clark in the squad to see what they're made of.

Actually from that BBC article, the sentence


makes it clear that the decision Paul Hart had to make after last Saturday was whether he wanted to hang around until the end of the season or get paid up and go now.

So no need for all that collective angst then.

I'd say it's a fair bet Billy B might get a game  :sherlock:. I think Said and Clark were both crocked for the rest of the season by Chippenham.

 :nod:

Clark is ok - he played reserves this week

Wouldnt play ALL of them at same time but 2 in first half and 2 in second half might work - they deserve a blooding

especially Mark Scott and Billy Bodin

Im going to use this!!

Hahahaha

"On his departure Hart said: "I would like to thank the board, the supporters and most of all the players for their support over the last seven weeks."

Good news

As both our remaining games are meaningless for all teams, hopefully it will mean bringing in some youth players and not playing the loanees. Would be good to see Scott, Evans, Thompson, Pavett and Bodin given a chance - its not like they can be much worse than the others.

Must be something in the water lately, that's the third or fourth time I've read one of jonny's posts and thought "That's exactly what I would have said" (only jonny says it better and more concisely). Either I'm becoming wiser or you've turned into a fucking idiot, jonny :)

I hope so too provided some fans don't vent their frustrations about relegation at them - if they're going to get a chance they need full support.

Any word on any help for Bodin?

Watch us go and win the last two games now they are worthless

Pride isn't worthless.

That's one of many reasons why it's a smart move. With no Hart to vent on, if they just play the full first team, there's a danger people will focus their ire on the useless fuckwits who actually caused all the heartbreak and turmoil of the last week and so create another poisonous atmosphere. Whereas if there's a mix of kids in there, people will be more inclined to give them a break (hopefully)

This. Would at least not leave as sour a taste in the mouth if some of the players can go out and show they want to wear the shirt next season.

Next season starts on Saturday, 2 wins will at least give a bit of confidence going into the summer

The new shirt at that!

Excellent, if we win both games we'll have a 6 point head start on the other teams in League Two next season!

The odds have changed already, Trollope is now the favourite at 3/1 with Bodin dropping back to 4/1

Where you getting these odds

Odds R Us

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html (http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html)

jimmy quinn 14/1.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
you might awsell back red rum for the grand national

Can someone post up the managers/odds on here, that domain is blocked at my work.
Cheers.

Next Permanent Swindon Manager
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Next Permanent Manager
Paul Trollope 3/1   Richard Money 4/1
Paul Bodin 4/1   Dennis Wise 7/1
Paul Buckle 10/1   Phil Parkinson 12/1
Jimmy Quinn 14/1   Kevin Blackwell 14/1
Alan Irvine 16/1   Paul Tisdale 16/1
Martin Allen 16/1   Glenn Hoddle 25/1
Iffy Onuora 25/1   Steve Evans 25/1
Colin Calderwood 33/1   Jan Age Fjortoft 50/1

I'm not sure what type of manager we should look to, over the years we done well with blooding new managers getting sucess and them moving on but equally is it a risk now we are in L2 to hope they come good.

Got be Paul Buckle for me, young and upcoming manager who has done a great job at Torquay.  He has also got the best out of Benyon so that will be a big plus going into next season!

I think it will be Trollope but Calderwood at 33/1 looks good value.

Wray speaking on BBC was certainly aware of our past of unproven but promising first time player managers - but he did mention that any prospective manager should play 'good' football.

agree.ditto hoddle

'good football' = 'winning football' next season.

Hoddle and calderwoods odds look a good shout

i might find out something a bit later.hopefully will be lumping on today or tomorrow.

Back on topic a bit. I didn't like Hart's management style and was critical of it but there is no ill feeling from me. The right decision has been made and in good time. As ever whoever comes in will be judged objectively as possible.

Good news. Well done Wray in wasting no time, hopefully will see some young players for the final two games.

Would like Paul Buckle, or if i'm being really optimistic, Paul Tisadale (cant see him dropping down a league though)

Ooh, if you get any juicy gossip, share it with us good folk!

Have heard a very strong rumour that Wally Downes could be the man.

Paul Buckle looks like a decent shout to be fair

Good news indeed. No fucking about if you dont do the job you have been employed to do you got to go, especially if you have an attitude problem, which Hart appeared to have...hopefully a bit of thought will go into who takes over now. Big decision to be made and important to get this right. I will bet anyone whatever the stake that it will not be Hoddle....

As long as its not another cunt  ;D

Harts departure is welcome news to me.

Nothing personal but his tactics were not only awful but failed to get us any meaningful points....

Should be praised for taking the job on but execution was terrible.

Did he do any homework at all? Did he watch any dvds? Did get clued up about the opposition?  Dropping Andrew and playing Benyon against those giants on Monday was a joke!

Done him and McP no favours.

He has enough in his CV to get an 'upstairs' role but he should stay away from management.

McP may have tarred himself with this!!

Get your money on Downes.

Better not be Steve Evans then.  I would vomit in disgust.

Maybe if Bodin wins the next two games, then he will be contender?

Isnt downes at reading?

What about dillon who was there

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Defensive coach at West 'Am last I heard

Didn't he get Brentford relegated?

What about Steve Coppell, or is that a bit ambitious for a League Two club? If not, I think he's available at the moment. So is Chris Hughton, who might also be well out of our league, but why not approach either of them?

Not what we need then.......

 ;)

This Wally Barnes fellow has a worse record on paper than Hart did.

What's his record like on grass?

Coppell's available because he keeps running off from clubs at the first sign of anything much. Makes Sol Campbell look stable and Austin loyal.

Groovy, man, grooooooovy.

Hart wasn't good enough to be described as Bungle. He was more like George, that fat hippo thing, that just sat around all day talking nonsense and doing fuck all.

Can you imagine George giving a lippy Oxford fan a well-deserved clip round the ear, though?

No, I can't either.  See, that's where your analogy thingy breaks down.

better linkage for prices.only skybet currently but expect it to change.


http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/swindon-specials/next-permanent-manager

What about Aidy Boothroyd or Alan Curbishley - although would either drop to L2

I'm putting a few quid on Jamie Redknapp & Alan Shearer dream team starting and re-starting their managerial careers

And the bookies will gladly take that money from you.

I would gladly give odds of 100 to 1 for that pairing!

trollope favourite :suicide:

Mmm, I see your point, but I'm not sure Bungle would give too good an account of himself if it all kicked off either. I suspect he'd just leave the fighting to the woman, Jane I think her name was, but even she'd sort the scum out no problem at all. Anyone born post 1975 must be wondering what the fuck we're on about! So am I come to think of it.

Pah, us 80s kids know all about Rainbow. The dirty bastards.

If Wray wants someone who plays good football then that rules out Parkinson and Boothroyd i'd have thought. I think names like Hughton are going to be too far out of our reach. I do however wonder if this will be a surprise appointment e.g. someone we're not expecting.

  Dex where is the Downes vibe coming from?  He'll be for sure be out the door at the Hammers, but is perceived as a bit of a hard man and very shouty....could be something in this.

 BTW not so sure about playing kids....Port Vale did it a couple of seasons back after relegation and we put 6 on them. If these kids were good enough they'd have already got a game.

Who gives a shit if someone puts 6 past us now though Reg? Chances are we're going to finish bottom anyway. All I want to see now is some passion and fight.

I'd be surprised if he set his criteria for a new manager as being someone who plays shit football

Not a lot worse than men against boys....it's why we can't win the Wiltshire Shield.

Nevertheless it could be these lads haven't been picked not because they're not good enough, but because of some plot so why not....just don't expect too much.

I think having Bodin in charge will help. He's the man that has coached these lads and some of the ones that have gone on to get deals. Expect Billy to start upfront. That's a given.

It's a shame that Bodin only has 2 matches.

People will get excited and call for his appointment if he does well but it's ridiculously important that the board get this next appointment right.

Appointing Bodin permanently would be a massive gamble to base on two meaningless (for us) matches. It'd be the managerial equivalent of signing Dossevi based on the Forest friendly

I'd like to see him become assistant.

This. Paving the way for him to become our manager in the future perhaps.

On what basis though? Not arguing it but not sure why even before that people wanted him as manager and some want him as assistant.

Most managers come as a partnership these days so if Bodin is to do that role any new manager will be taking a big gamble themselves. I like Bodin personally but don't feel he has the people skills to be an assistant you need to be sort of a go between for that role imo.

Hoddle and Bodin FTW.

i don't think bodin will risk taking the job permanantly.
he has lived in swindon since his playing days and worked in the youth set up for years.if he took the job and it went pete tong then he could be up shit street.i don't think he is wealthy enough to do nothing,so would have to look for work post here.so would be a risk to take the job on as manager.
has a steady job at the moment with little risk of losing it.

that said, it may well be too tempting if offered,and for all i know he may be minted.might5 have the ambition to further his managerial career,he could lead us up the leagues and be a hero for years.ifs buts maybes.

He who dares......  ;)

I'll forever love Zippy for THAT penalty, but I don't think it's the right time to risk giving him the job full-time.

I am very much in favour of the idea of giving the job to an up-and-coming type, but coaching kids is very different to managing a football league club and I think Zippy's been too far out of touch with the professional game at first team level.

Set against that, he's less of a risk than the "high profile ex-pro taking first steps in management" option that many would wet their pants at e.g. a rehash of the Wise/Poyet scenario.

Oh, I don't know. Appoint someone, I'll support them and hope they can do a good job here, irrespective of pedigree, past track record etc. Then if it works out I'll praise your managerial selection skills, if it doesn't I'll call you tossers. How's that?

How did he get on a Bath City?

I see he resigned after being offered a part-time role but how did he perform.

Football management is too unpredictable to write-off the rookie. It's about brains more than anything (and the occasional contact here and there).

The always used example is Nigel Adkins. Once a physio but always had a good football brain and now a decent lower league manager with good potential.

Dick Mackey it is then.

I think you'll find that Bodin has already said the youth set up is at risk as a result of the drop. If that is the case then being offered the managers job may be a risk worth taking...

Hope he gets the job.
We need a fresh young manager,Lge 2 is the place to learn the trade.
I am fed up with these older cronies who think they are Mourinio with the shite tactics and trying to get average players doing jobs they just couldn't do.

Good luck and as i say i for one would like him to be given the nod.

I don't think Bodin is the man. If you want to get back up you need to maximise the chances by getting someone who has done it all before. IF you can.

Obviously sometimes managers that look good on paper turn out shit, and vice versa (not saying Bodin looks shit BTW).

Personally I'd hate to see his legend status damaged.

Said it before but Dennis Wise please.

Whether Bodin is the man long term or not, I'll have a smile on my face seeing him in the dugout Saturday. I think the Board have actged very sensibly as Saturday had all the hallmakrs of a horror show, now evetyone can chill and enjoy a game in the sunshine where it doesn't matter shit.

I am surprised that more people are not talking about Paul Buckle. His stats are very good, he took a demoralised side from the BSP to promotion contenders and plays good football. My only concern is the penchent for Torquay to leek goals and have to win by 3-2 but i guess that is exciting!

On another note, it was obvious at Rovers that Lawrence was the brains behind the outfit with Trollope, just as we have now found out that Poyet was the brains behind the Wise partnership.

I cannot understand people calling for Calderwood as he has failed in all his jobs (post Northampton) and is widely derided by fans of the clubs he manages.

Paul Buckle = compensation.

Regimes come and regimes go but 30 years without paying comp for a boss speaks volumes!

He'd be a decent appointment though.

True but i cannot imagine the compensation would be that huge.  I think he would fancy it as well.
 I guess the dilema would be to pay £200k compensation to Torquay and less wage or end up paying more than that over the course of a contract for a 'name' manager.

This...  he was managing the college team before byrne bought him to the clun and hasn't really been near first team football at a league club before.

This...

yes....this....

Know something we dont triceritops?

Fuck it. This

One I dont fancy is Nijholt, his 3 years as a manager in Holland were hardly successful. we dont know what kind of football he plays, and I cant imagine he has much knowledge of English players or lower league football in England.

This for Manager.

We are This's red and white army.

That

This. It would be a shame for the fans to turn on him if things went tits up.

:D

Maybe, but I will never know as much as the mongs on thisis...  I doubt any of them have even heard of Paul Buckle... too busy dreaming of us getting someone like Mourinho, hoddle or redknapp... as a result they will see it as a cheap option...

This...

http://www.teamtalk.com/west-ham-united/6847641/Di-Canio-claims-League-1-offer

What may have been.

this, that  :gay:

I bet it would be hard as nails.

A narrow escape for some L1 club then. An openly fascist manager. Just what you need

I'm confused, are Take That taking over as the management?

Daily Mail reckon we want Wally Downes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1381706/Swindon-want-West-Ham-coach-Wally-Downes-manager.html?

a fair bit of myth regarding bodin in the last couple of pages....
he isn't-wasn't out of touch with league football nor the swindon set up.he was doing scouting for numerous people for years.he has also been around the club for years,far before byrne came here.not as youth team manager but took an age group for years which included his son.the only thing he is not experienced at is running a first team at a league club.

As i said,i would like him to be given the job,think Pitman at Hereford could be a good manager one day.
Done a great job at Hereford in my opinion.

How so? I agree with the point about Lawrence/Trollope, as soon as Lenny buggered off Rovers did indeed nose dive. But Wise hasnt had a managerial job since he left Town, so I find it difficult to come to this conclusion, perhaps Poyet learned everything from Wise.

There you go, I'm a Wise fan, I'd like him back thank you very much.

Him or Di Matteo....

Or Paul Mince....

...Or Paul Buckle.....

(Now I've said all this, it'll just be my luck that Wise will come back.... and be shit....and take us down to the conf.... then burst into tears in a press conference and sob "I'm nufin without my Gussy-wuss")

I can't see Wise getting back into football management. Didn't he jack it in because he was bored of the day-to-day stuff? Then got caught up in loads of boardroom shit at Newcastle?

Wally Downes eh.

Makes sense I suppose.

I was surprised to see him high up on the betting, so although I'd like him back I'd have to agree with you - I seriously don't think he could be arsed with it all.

Think we have had enough of Downes for a while.

Think Wray is a west ham fan so could explain the downes one

Don't know much about Downes as a coach/manager, but wasnt he a member of the original Crazy Gang^TM?

I seem to remember him being a good player in an early 1980's ZX Spectrum football management sim type game.

I don't want to think what sort of headlines the Adver might come up with.

Hmmmm....Wally Downes...bit of a thug isn't he? Could be just what we need in Div 4 I suppose :hmmm:

As I've said elsewhere, Lawrence left around the same time the money did. Wovers got right in the shit financially (they still are) which was apparently one of the reasons he left (and why they later had to sell Lambert) leading to Trollope having to manage on fuck all resources. So you may well have it backwards - i.e. that the lack of money both did for Trollope and forced Lawrence out (cos they couldn't afford him or he bailed), rather than that Lawrence departing exposed Trollope as useless by himself. Seem to remember reading somewhere that Trollope's entire budget to strengthen his squad for this season (ie including additional wage expense as well as transfer fees) was low five figures and that was after they'd sold Lambert. A lot of managers would struggle under those conditions.

Link's just as likely to be via Reading isn't it? We seem to have good contacts at the more plastic end of the M4

Hmmm, this is cogent reasoning that my brain can't cope with after a few beers, so are you saying Wise is better with or without Poyet?  :D

I'll wade in on the Wise one.  Just because Poyet has done a good job, everyone's gone off on this "it was all down to Poyet" route.  Tis bollocks.  Under Wise we played a very distinct tactical game which does not resemble Poyet's Brighton set-up.  Wise played it narrow and had the winger tuck right in when the ball was on the opposite flank with the aim of pressuring the ball - at all levels, players tend to play worse balls under pressure and that is magnified at L2 level.  If they did get around the pressure, it needed a long cross field ball, which allows the team to drift over and recover positions in time.  It was taken lock stock and barrell from his Wise's time at Wimbledon.

Poyet may have been behind some of it, he seems an intilligent chap, but just because Wise can be a bit of a prick and chased the cash by taking his odd role at Newcastle, it's wrong to suddenly sweep away what he very evidently did bring to us at the start of that season.

What arriba said re: Bodin.

He's been coaching at Town for the best part of 10 years now...

Not saying either really. Nor am I saying Trollope is better without Lawrence. Just trying to redress the balance a little on what I think is an unfair assumption a lot of people seem to have jumped to about Trollope. As Rob T has so admirably done for little Mr Wise. Who knows? Maybe Trollope's success was all down to Lawrence and the fact he was cut off at the knees financially was a coincidence. Or maybe he's a damn good manager who just needed Lawrence to guide him a little as an older head while he found his feet initially and he then got completely sabotaged by the Rovers' board's financial ineptness just when he could have really pushed them on. I certainly don't know either way, just trying to point out it may well be a bit more complex than the easy conclusions a lot of people have jumped to.

We seem to have developed a habit in this country of writing young managers off the first time they falter, rather than allowing them the time to make mistakes, or allowing for circumstances beyond their control. Seems like the first time something goes wrong, whether it's their fault or not, they're written off as shit and no-one wants them. And that simplistic mentality (not having a go at you Arch, it's a more general point) seems to apply as much in the boardroom as in the stands

I get the impression that Trollope is a very good coach. What would concern me though is whether he is more than just that. We had Malpas here who was supposidly a good coach. That didn't make him a good manager though.

The obvious concerns over Bodin would be the lack of experience of any manager role within the football league.

Not sure about other potential candidates but I know a few have mentioned Richard Money. If what i've heard from Luton fans is true i'd want to steer clear of him personally.

From speaking to him, Malpas knew his stuff, just seemed utterly incapable of getting players to doing anything bordering on coherence on the pitch.  Conversely, I always though Sturrock was a bit basic and limited when discussing anything football related, yet had a good record managing at this level.  It's oft stated that the lower down you go, the more basic you need to make it for the players.  Think that's why the Wise tactics worked and why teams with lower budgets often do well when the odds seem stacked against that being possible.

What happened to Martin Ling? I remember his name being bounded about last time (or the time before)?

Ling-Bodin Super team?

*I think you mean "bandied"

Did a good job at Orient, fucked up at Cambridge is the executive summary. Although bearing in mind my previous comments, not that familiar with the situation at Cambridge but from memory they had a fair amount of boardroom turmoil, so may not have been down to him

What have I told you about patronising me with this shit. I actually meant bounded. As in "to bound". His name was leaping around all over the place. Like a special school puppy. You could say that it was "being bounded about"

I believe this is your second warning Paul. Don't think you are immune just because the last time the trust did anything was with your face on the back of the adver.

I've banned DV for less. And more.

In which case it was bounding about, as in of it's own accord, it wasn't being bounded about, which would mean an external agent was causing it to do so. Not sure you can cause something to bound, leap maybe, but not bound.

Am I close to the line yet? :)

good night paul.

and I'm staying up.

That paul is such a sweet talker.

I could never ban you dude xxx

 :kiss:

Yeah you could. One day I'll push you too far.

One day.

On that note...


No, there was an external agent. All those people who were bounding about his name for a start. That shit rubs off.

But does that suggest though that Trollope or Ling are no good with low budgets

Possibly. Or it may suggest that very few managers can function with their budgets slashed to the point of next to nothing to work with and (in Trollope's case, not sure about Ling) some of their better players sold off. I don't think you're going to get a neat answer to this one.

Twat !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's not get carried away with the experience thing. What experience did messrs Hoddle, Ardiles, Macari and (dare I say it) McMahon have of management before taking the Swindon job? I think it's fair to say that the club did rather well under all four of them.

Looks like the Daily Mail might have made something up..

WallyDownes_Jr Has just tweeted something interesting. 'Seeing talk about Wally Sr & Swindon job. No idea where it's come from but it certainly isn't coming from him. He's got enough on his plate'

Phew.

Interesting view on Trollope from a Rovers fan here:

"Trollope is the same as Wilson in terms of a plan B. It drove us crazy. Though, he's a Swindon supporter so reckon he might do well with you lot. Trollope's biggest problem is picking the same players - his mates. But whether thats because they were players when he was or not im not sure. Trollope IMO is one of the best coaches around but as a manager, he needs someone experienced like Lennie Lawrence back, otherwise he's not good enough. When LL went, Trollope was awful and saw us drop out of the play offs last season and us relegated this season. He sometimes has some fresh ideas which work brilliantly but the amount of times he gets out thought by the opposing manager is unreal. He has a good record in league 2 though - 1 season - 1 promotion".

Hmmm.

Lower league manager in "not perfect" shock.

Its more fundamental than that, he's saying Trollope can't do the job on his own.

Its only one fans view of course.

Trollope has five years adequate experience at this level. The Lennie Lawrence thing is the only issue that concerns me, just how big was his influence?

I imagine his time there just went stale like all lower league managerial tenures do.

I think a few other Rovers fans have said things along similar lines e.g. "if you get someone like Lawrence in with him he'll do a good job". I must admit with this in mind if we're going to go down the Trollope route we'll need an experienced assistant to work alongside him.

So have any other out of work managers been spotted at Swindon games? If it was me applying for the job, I'd be going to every game I could (1st, reserves, youth) to make notes on the players so I had something to say in the interview about them. Would put you at an advantage to the other candidates, as the new manager will have to make some pretty quick decisions about some of the players.

For some strange reason i would like to give Dave Hockaday a chance.

Only Trollope and Hoddle that we know of. No sign of Holloway in the Town End yet which is a shame.

Sound advice but Fitton wasn't impressed with Ollie turning up in the town end. Mind you I don't think Malpas had been sacked then.

That's the big difference this time, since Hart left it's been open season at the Country Ground.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Wray's comments about the applications so far made me laugh - the bit about those claiming to be really good on Championship Manager and them not having anyway to verify it. Think he said there was about 12 genuine ones so far from names people will have heard of.

It was that sort of attitude that caused Fitton some of the errors of his ways. Does anyone know for sure if Holloway was going to apply for the Swindon job at the time or was he just innocently wanting to watch a game? Either way I got the impression Fitton simply dismissed Holloway even if he had applied for the job simply for going into the town end. Not that there was any guarnteee he would emilate his success with Blackpool here or done any better than Wilson.

Hahaha i applied and mentioned cham manager

Holloway was the obvious choice at the time. Then we discounted him and waited bloody ages before appointing someone (which worked out last year :)). Might be wrong but I can't see Fitton and Ollie ever likely to have formed a working relationship!

if you were dv i'd believe you

Malpas was a sham manager :D

Poor old Maurice. I wanted that one to work out.

Statistically, he wasn't THAT bad... It felt horrible at the time.

I've won the Premier League with Swindon on both FM10 and FM11. I could send the savegames to prove it, should I apply?

It's a bit of a commute from the West Midlands though.

Fucking move back down then.

It's that level of commitment that Wray should avoid ;)

Hahaha i did mate

To be fair Jeremy Wray said anyoen was welcome to apply, even champ managers

I'd be willing to stay up late.

Now that's commitment!

If we are to follow the macari/hoddle route, Ian ashbee might be an ideal candidate, been through all the leagues with hull and was their captain through those leagues too

The concern for me is that there are a few of good managers in jobs at the moment that may be worth looking at, a couple in the L2 play-off's who are unlikely to apply BUT if they was approached then they may be interested but Wray has said that they are not going to be approaching anyone, so surely that is likely to leave us with out of work managers - ok there's a couple of decent ones - and non league managers wanting the step up.
 

We're not allowed to approach managers directly anyway. And since when did everyone start taking everything put out as an "official" take on stuff as gospel?

How about Roberto Di Mataeo? (SP)

What's all this about Hodgetts saying RDM has applied? Did anyone actually hear that?

Apparently it was Vic Morgan that said it but it's highly likely that it was bullshit.

di matteo? now we're talking. Worth asking, he can only say no...

He was linked with Brentford a few weeks ago.

a big enough name that wud get the majority excited again but not sure westbrom fans liked him as manager even in their promotion season.  

You see i'm not really bothered about having him. We all know he'll just bugger off the first chance he gets so it's not even worth it. Quite why he'd want to drop to this level anyway I don't know.

I've been having a think about this criterion of not wanting someone who'll bugger off.  I can see the thinking, which is why you go for someone like Wilson. The reciprocal being that you give the manager time when the going gets tough.

Now think it would be better to get someone in who'll do a decent job so others up the food chain will want him....tends to leave you better off.

Look at Bormuff....Howe did well, fucks off and they've managed to maintain things, this despite like us having lost two of their key strikers.

Certainly we're a lot worse of now, due to the loyalty factor...

because he's out of work. if it was matteo, trollope or money, you'd take the others over him?

i see what people say about bigger manager buggering off, but we need to get out of League 2 at the first attempt.

I agree with Reg.  A few other examples closer to home were Wise (we maintained momentum in 2006/07 after he & Poyet cleared off) and Hoddle (who was never going to stay with us, but gave us top flight football before leaving).  If the likes of Di Matteo are out there and looking to work, it would be daft to not at least enquire about his availability.  Nothing to lose.

Vic has tweeted saying this is crap and he didn't say anything about RDM.

Vics gone mental on twitter about it

Did he say anything about REM.   Thought it a bit unlikely that Di Matteo would apply, you'd have thought with his semi decent record, he'd pick up something like Bristol City.

Yeah just seen. Ooops. Did say it was probably bullshit though to be fair.

Getting really succesful managers to stay with lower league clubs is impossible. So do we want success or not?

This will offend a few people, but Fitton was out of his depth at Swindon, and his strategies were often pie in the sky.

At Hungerford he used to come in the dressing room at half time and give a team talk. The manager would shut the door after he had left and tell the players to 'forget that load of bollocks youve just heard'.

Fitton had good ideas with buying unproven players and blooding in youth to sell on for profit, getting a manager in who won't kick off over club policy, putting the contract situation in control of the club and not with the players. The problem is it is too idealistic and football is far from ideal. The club would do well to move away from the extremes. We started putting all our eggs in one basket, whereas the play off season we seemed to have the right mix of everything.

With appointing a manager the board would do well to get someone who will take the board's ideas on but will ultimately do their own thing. I understand investment in players needs to be considered carefully, just give the manager specific criteria in line with the strategic plan of the club and make the manager do a business case based on why a certain player would achieve the strategic goals. You almost need a non-exec on the board to argue sounds like a good investment, if a bit of a risk, but does it align with our aims of Championship football?. You might end up keeping Gordon Greer and not buying Aiden Flint and it may not be where Fitton wants to spend the money but it's what will make the club more successful on and off the pitch.

He did manage to sell a lot of players on for a great profit.

Cox, Henshall, Greer, Morrison, Austin. In 2 years thats as good a spell of transfer fees received as I can ever remmember at Swindon.

Yep the model works, just needs compromise sometimes

Martin Ling anyone?

Really? Now he did a good job with Orient and i wanted him here back then but he hasn't really done much since.

Struggled at Cambridge

i'd like lingy here again

Hardly struggled.Fell out with the chairman didn't he

Considering the year before they were in the playoff's he got them to mid table. I know a lot of managers have fallen out with the chairman though.

Don't know why but was just doing some reading on Paul Buckle. I notice his contract is up in 6 months time,i wonder if the board are waiting on tomorows results to see if they reach the play offs or not tomorow

I was thinking that the other day as well. Ties in with Wray waiting for applications etc and not looking at things until next week.

Buckle could be a shoe-in

At least he'd put his heart and sole into the job

Keep telling you folks that Money is our man......believe me.

Buckle isn't great under pressure.

I heard this from Mick Hucknall. He just keeps talking about Mo-ney Mo-ney Mo-ney.

Thought that was Abba.

Thing with Money is he doesnt like much change.

Whoah, Spencer White getting involved in a punfest?

Take note!

Fuck off!!  Money would do a sterling job.

If Buckle became our manager it would be belting

Not a very subtle style of football though, he just stands on the touchline shouting "lace it!"

I'm sure he tells them to leather it.

Or just belt it upfield

cheque you cunts out,this should be a tender subject.

I think you haven't quite grasped the concept arriba.

Don't stand for that arriba give him a shoeing.

my post was made without seeing the thread had moved on a bit.2 posts to late.
but i would go toe to toe with samdy and sock the babe.wouldn't boot him when he's down though.that's cowardly

I'm trying to make a pun using moccasin, just can't

Where's Neville?

I've heard Buckle likes drinking fancy coffees with chocolate added and all kinds of fart-arsing about. Which is just wrong - it's a mocha-sin

i'm moccasin your pitifull attempt

One things is for sure - it don't matter who gets the job you can guarantee that at some point they'll get the boot.

RDM would be great, but only if Bodin was kept within the management team.  Then when RDM buggers off we've got a ready-made replacement there.

If he doesn't wan't it, then I'd like to see Bodin being given a go.  He has done a great job with the youth team, he loves the club, and he'd do a pretty damn great jobs at bringing the kids through to the first team.

I'd prefer giving Bodin a chance than to going with someone who has had moderate success at this level.  If he has the right ideas, and can motivate the team, then why not give him a go?

Paul Buckle is my first choice. Young, successful and experienced in League Two. We need to bring new players in and having a manager who knows the players in League Two and non-league will be vital to pick up some bargains that perform. Plus he's only under contract till November (I think) and I reckon he'd prefer us over Torquay (maybe).

Has Wray given any indication as to whether he has approached any clubs?

He said he's had loads of applications, of which he has 22 sat in a folder somewhere. The manager will be one of them. I guess that means it will be someone out of work.

I'm sure he said some of the applicants are currently in a job.

Scrap everything I've said. It think you might be right.