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word has it down here he is off to brighton...........

Surely not.....that would be a bit of a shock.....we wd get a bit of money tho wouldn't we?

back of the argus saying brighton have bid for him....

Can't see him being let go, he's captain and one of the few leaders we have on the pitch and he is a good player although he does have limitations

How very dare they. Mind you, Virgo can be got free, so no real loss with quality like him still available.

Hmm not sure what to make of that although we are going to get all this kind of transfer speculation now,but if greer were to leave i would have 100% faith in Danny Wilson replacing him with the same calibre or better.I would say he was going nowhere tho even though brighton may have tried a cheeky bid.I expect there has been few more bids on our players including the likes of cuthbert etc.

Time for Morrison to step up to the grade if this is true?

We certainly missed Greer at Wembley. The back four looked lost without him. We'd miss his leadership skills.

I'd be fucking livid if we lost Greer to Brighton. More so than many other clubs. I mean they're not as good as us and are in the same division as us. I just hope they get in the shit for overspending if they somehow manage to steel him.

I'd be shocked if we let him go unless they are bidding silly money.

As others have said his absense was notable a wembley. He might be slow but he's a bloody good defender at this level and a good captain - not someone who would be easy to replace.

We can't let him go to the Bummers !!

talking of cuthbert and old-ish news but he has cancelled his tenancy at his taw hill residency and is residing at a home in west dumbartonshire......for the summer at least :-)

Couldnt argee more...I dont see how Greer would go to Brighton for these reasons:
a). He's look on very highly at Swindon and he's our skipper ffs
b). We're a better club on/off the pitch
c). He's getting on towards knocking on a bit and may like to have a bash CCC football, he's got a  lot better chance doing that with us that Brighton

If any more of our first team players leave then maybe the Adver story about the team breaking up will not be so wide of the mark.

Experienced central defenders are obtainable and we've proven so with free transfers. Williams and Greer being good examples. Viveash (re-signing) and Aljofree the bad ones.

I really can't see this transfer happening though, unless they're bidding silly money.

Fuck off Brighton.

Why the fuck would Greer want to go there (unless their offering silly money). Really cant see us selling him, it would show a real lack of ambition imo.

I would be gutted if Greer left! Remember how shocking our defence was the season before he signed?!!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Brighton...  :smugfu:

There's a big difference between 'bid' and 'off to' though isn't there? I doubt Wilson will want to lose his captain, who's contracted, to a club in the same division.

bit of an odd story this. can't see why he would go either. I could understand it of it were a move north.

Selling him a rival in the same division would be really stupid and show a total lack of ambition.

I really don't want this to be 03/04/05 again where we finish in the play offs and spend the next 6 years trying to get back there.

We have to do a Millwall...

The only reason we would let him go is if they offer what we believe is overpriced for the player.  Brighton have got a fair bit of dosh with a new stadium coming so I could see why it might interest him.

If we did get over what we value him at and he went, we should offer Cuthbert a new contract, make him captain, bring in an experienced defender alongside him along with giving Morrison a go.  JFL should remain as back up IMO.

Time to get shot down, but I think Greer has not performed as well this year as he did towards the end of last.  Having said that, our defence obviously looks a lot stronger when he is in it.

If greer was to go he would have to be replaced with someone of similar calibre. Morrison is not good enough.

I am confident he wont leave us certainly not to Brighton anyway, thats a sideways/step down move.

...yet.

http://northstandchat.com/showthread.php?t=176788

Mutual vitriol I see.

Looks like someone fell for the Adam Virgo line too. Nice one Barry :)

Where's that "whoosh" smiley gone?

In your opinion...

In my opinion he is good enough, but is not experienced enough and lacks Greers leadership qualities.  He also needs a run of games rather than being a bit part player.  The only way he will gain these is by playing matches.

Which is why I said make Cuthbert captain and bring in an experienced defender as well as giving Morrison a go more often rather than using JFL.

Morrison has the potential to be million pound plus sale in the future based on some of his previous performances.  People tend to forget he is only 19ish?

Bunch of gay inbreds....oh wait thats probably not possible is it? :D

I just read all through that thread and I cant believe they're slating our ground when they still play at the Wisdean, 'People with shit grounds shouldnt throw stones'  springs to mind.

You no-mark...

They can have him for £1M if they want.

Jeez, shitty stadium? Says the fan in a temporary stand to the side of the athletics track and 150m from the football pitch...  Jesus, who do they think they are? Anyone one would think they're as big as Crystal Palace or something with the way they're talking. They aren't half a conceited little bunch of deluded mockney cunts.

I'm deeply hurt by the "no-mark" comments though. That's perhaps the most scathing of comments my eyes have had the misfortune of reading. And Shighton: WE. HAVE. MORE. MONEY. THAN. YOU.

Brighton, Your just a town full of Bummers, town full of bummers !! :smugfu: :gay:

Gotta love the ignorance on that page. Of course, they know all about us. They're just shit at fishing.

I wonder what time the Adver Website will publish this story as breaking news and with the words we can exclusively reveal?

can't see this happening myself. bumders.

No chance would he go there.  Why take a step down?

Brighton have finally got some good fortune in Falmer and the investment they're receiving. It's gone to their heads.

They're a small team, we're a small team. Regardless of 'potential'.

The link for anyone who fancies a read

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/8208320.Albion_target_Swindon_skipper/

a non-story that one. jog on.

Their fans do seem to be getting ideas above their station on the basis they have a half built new ground.

I dont think anyones indignation that Greer would join Brighton on here is due to the fact we think they are a small club and we are massive, its the simple fact that we were losing play off finalists after finishing 5th, they finished 13th after stuggling all season and a late run of good form.

i would be very disapointed if we lost greer.it would also beg the question why he, or any player would want a sideways move out of stfc.

Are they actually retarded, or do they seriously not understand why we hate them so much?

good point toddy. No-one's saying we're bigger than them, far from it, simply that to sell one of our strongest players to a team of similar ilk, who like us want to be competing for promotion next season, is a stupid move only our boards of old would contemplate.

Agreed, something like that would certainly signal unrest, and that's the last thing we need!  :sherlock:

Good luck if he goes. Easily replaceable ;)

Wouldn't go that far, personally I think he's been cracking for us... well till the silly mistakes at the end of the season!  :no:

Not saying that i would want him gone but he has made silly mistakes ALL season. Especially in the last 5 mins of games.

Rubbish! Best centre half and leader we've had for years. Yes he's made mistakes but so do ALL footballers.

amen brother.greer is collosus

He gives away a few fouls, but he'd be a bigger loss than Paynter, although i do think it's bored journos.

Someone. Help. I can't breathe for all the laughter. That proved me wrong on the fishing, there's some talent there, although you've gone for the obvious bait. 5/10

Have Palace fans taken the piss too much so you've moved on to us?

Haha fuck off brighton.

Just like poyet will at the first oppurtunity

'We have the best up and coming manager in this league and this is a fact'

Sorry but only a retard uses the word 'fact' for something that is clearly a matter of opinion.  For that reason, in terms of actually entertaining the thought of a debate with an intelligent football fan, Im out.

Jog on.

I have to say i'm enlightened now. I'm glad to have had the benefit of a neutral prespective.

Where's a neutral Swindon fan when you need one for an unbiased reply?

How much is Sir Martyn Arbib worth these days?  And is Andrew Black still invovled?

Fuck off you queer cunt

A neutral Swindon fan? You mean a Swindon fan who doesn't support Swindon?

i see brighton as a similar club to us.i expect them to improve on last season,but i dont think we should be expecting to lose our players to them.

how the fortune telling fan above can tell us all that with out knowing our plans,and seeing how far we've come is a bit stupid really

The Brighton fan said he was putting a neutral perspective on all things Brighton for us...

5 simple but quality words there Lambourn.

nice try but you have serious flaws in your bait.

16k home gate?! you averaged 6610 last season with a capacity of 8850 which you never filled. your highest gate being 7784. even luton averaged more fans than you.

and as for your english, i believe you should have stayed that extra hour after school to work up on it. a space is required after each full stop. like so.

Riiiiight. So on the basis that you get a new ground and a mythical 10,000 new fans in 12 months time you're now a big club yeah?  And thats a neutral perspective ???

I'm not going to get into a cock waving contest about which clubs owners are worth the most but ours are very rich.  

A lot our our players are getting linked with oither clubs beacause they had good seasons and we didnt get promoted.

We didnt spend big money last season but finished above Huddersfield who outspent evrryone bar Southampton.

Anyway, enjoy your time at the althletics track next season with 6000 crowds.

Great Post, Very informative and will certainly shut up anyone with an opinion. I will go and put a tenner on massive moneybags Brighton winning the league and us being relegated by Christmas. I look forward to getting dicked by B&HA this season as you piss the league.

This a neutral perspective?? I wasn't going to bite but fuck it I will.

Try researching your facts about us before spouting the billy big bollcks we're going to be bigger than you.

Swindon are a club on the up new Stadium redevelopment and board members who actually know what the fuck there doing.  If you've read Four Four Two at all this year you'll know our board consists of some of the richest men in football.

Our club have chosen to use money wisely and invest in making the club facilities better with a future redevelopment of our ground on the cards.

If Brighton want to spend ridiculous amounts of money getting players with over inflated wages that's your problem but just because we don't want to go bust in a few years doesn't make you any bigger than us  :smugfu:

You have a poker playing chairman who is worth more than £1billion? (Which is what our board is worth give or take a few million.) Obviously if he is this uber rich poker player, he didn't make it in poker, so I am genuinely interested how he has money, because i've no doubt you're got a few secured loans in there somewhere.

I'm glad our board aren't willing to spend, because you only have to look at the teams chasing the dream, along with their debts, to see it's unsustainable. Get off you high-horse Brokeback Mountain.

Their moneybags owner made his money as a professional poker player...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Bloom

But our owners are still worth more than him.

The redevelopment of our stadium will commence next season. I'd say we're fairly equal on this argment.


Our chairman might not be richer, but our backers certainly are. Have a google for Sir Martyn Arbib and Andrew Black. They aren't "spending big", but they're spending sensible. Our club's being run on a very efficient basis and given the CVA is now finalised it could probably run at breakeven without extra funds from Arbib and Black. What happens when your chairman gets bored and packs it all in? 


Really? According to who? Yourselves. I'd could easily say Danny Wilson's the best manager in the league. It's all a matter of opinion, not fact.


Our players are being linked to other clubs because they're good enough to play at a higher level. How's that anything to do with what wages we're offering them? And history, what's that got to do with anything? What history have Brighton got over us? Fuck all.

I don't care if other clubs are spending ridiculous amounts on transfers and offering silly wages, we'll be the ones laughing in years to come when they're all wallowing in administration or gone bust. We've got a wage cap and we're sticking to it. We achieved top six with a very sustainable budget. How much did you lot spend last summer and fork out on wages? Where did you finish?


I'm confident we'll be taking 6 points from you next season and finish above you.

But this is the question, according to that, "As of 2008, his total live tournament winnings exceed $1,500,000." Now, unless he made £93m+ in the last 2 years, which no poker player will ever do, how did he pay for a £95m+ stadium?

thats the gamble Barry

Good to see Brighton being able to keep their better players like Iñigo Calderón. Oh.

Alligator blood. Haha. Twat!

Brighton often have 10k fan stuck outside the Withdean.

to be fair, hasnt he made all his money through property? still hardly a major player though, and that pot will soon run dry

Exactly, i think he's pushed all in without checking his cards. :)


It's a poker term, used quite regularly. It means you're hard to get rid of, you just hang around grinding it out. :)

Twat.

that pesky park and ride eh?

A very succinct reply, Ralphy, and one I'm inclined to agree with.

The interesting thing about that is no one seems to actually know how much money Tony Bloom has got. He's put £93m in to Brighton, £18m of loans were converted to shares with the other £75m still outstanding as an interest free loan payable in 2023. How much more has he got and might he need that £75m back sooner rather than later?

Whilst I wouldn't wish it on them, you can't help but wonder if this is another disaster in the making. When was the last time a massive investment in a football club, especially one in the lower divisions, didn't end up turning to shit? Actually, has it ever not turned to shit?

Given the choice between our owners (spending what they have to but no more, keeping the finances under control, planning to get the club in to profit) and Tony Bloom (pissing money away) I'll stick with what we've got any day of the week.

Anyone got more info on Tony Bloom and the Brighton finances? I did some Googling but just came up with questions rather than answers.

Lucid Ralphy, simply lucid.

Our players are being linked to other clubs because they are good, not because we don't have the resources to keep them. The only player we can't keep due to resources is Paynter, who went to Leeds and are a big club who can afford a lot of wages.

It's all nonsense anyway.  Both clubs have ambitions to get into the Championship. Whether they get there through throwing money at it or otherwise is another matter.

Oh and Bloom made his money by selling Premierbet, I asked a Brighton fan the same question the other month because all I knew about him was the poker bit.

So are you 12 then? Judging by your post I'd say you were 12.

 All players have a price....if Brighton want to pay something silly for Greer, then he'll be gone.

 It is that simple.

 Silly I'd have thought might be 100-150K

I just received an email from the club inviting me to renew the TEF's sponsorship of Gordon Greer for next season. Coincidence?

Or when Greer comes out and says he has no intention of going to Brighton and is already with a promotion contender not promotion protender then you sir will look like a bit of a cock.

Fucking hell, this is one for pauld to get his teeth into. After a quick search i've discovered, albeit perhaps reading something entirely false, he had many underhand dealings and the company was only bought for a nominal fee, and then closed.

"Premierbet were previously in financial uproar in 2005 when IGH bought it for a nominal fee after the bookmaker had been mismanaged for years by self-styled industry mogul, Tony Bloom."

According to this article, IGH paid £1m for Premier Bet in August 2005:

http://www.investegate.co.uk/article.aspx?id=200508010700205293P

Another site said it was £1.2m, but either way it sure as hell isn't the source of the funds he's put in to Brighton.

No you came on here giving it the big un about your new ground and the massive support your going to get,you came on here to gloat when you can only attract crowds just over 6k,We could do exactly the same and say when the CG gets redeveloped we will get 15,000 plus crowds.

You also came on here waving a stick about saying how you are bigger club than us and how richer you are than us when you have not done any research on us whatsoever and just guessed we had to sell our players because we did't go up.

Im going to enjoy seeing your paltry little crowds in your shiny new stadium,How does the song about big ground for you go again.

Now fuck off bandit boy,there's some more abuse for you.

In this "article", which i quote previously, i think it's saying he's got money from illegal or shading trading or something. I didn't read it fully, but he does sounds a bit like that Greek we all love.

http://footballisfixed.blogspot.com/2007/08/there-is-sweetness-in-revenge.html

Having a read of the internet, looks like it was property after all.

To be fair they'll see more of the game from there.  New ground wont make up for that shithole they've been in for god knows how many years. They'll still be tinpot.

He paid for a £95 million stadium in cash?

Wouldn't say it was jealousy, more annoyance at you coming on here "in peace" with your billy big bollocks childish attitude. If someone does that, you've gotta try and put them in their place. Well you know more than us, so fair enough, we won't be looking stupid if you don't get up where you belong, fill your stadium, or your Chairman does a runner sweety.

For all those raging at the lack of "neutrality" in the Brighton fan's post, he never claimed that. What he actually said was
Presumably his deranged rantings derive from damage caused by some neurosurgical procedure he's recently undergone. That would also account for his descent into tourettes-style SHOUTING IN CAPS FOR NO APPARENT REASON

Fixed that for you.

Oh, and what everyone else has said really re beware a man who comes in splashing money around with no obvious source for it (or a quoted source that doesn't stand up to much scrutiny). Just ask Pompey fans how well that went with Gaydamak pere and fils.

I can't think of one reason to be jealous of Brighton.

Good night out I hear, never been myself.

I am afraid he has already succeeded in looking like a lot of a cock, he clearly states that he is not 14 yet he has all the grammar and spelling of someone of that age.

Now go away SE1 Gull, if you give out shit you at least expect it back.

That Brighton forum has got plenty of threads discussing Bloom, how much he is worth and where he got it from - plenty of questions asked but no answers. Quite a few posts saying they don't think he's got the money and is counting on being able to earn it and pay it as and when it is due. Lots of alarm bells but no one seems to really give a shit.

should'nt you be doing some up hill gardening :gay: :cunt:

sorry hit the wrong quote :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I think it's called Munto Propertiez Ltd if that helps?

Thank fuck for that, thought I'd been outed.

fuck off fudge packer, turd burgler :gay: :cunt:

I understand from your first post that you will be paying more wages than us,Can you explain the bit in this link where Poyet clearly said that he couldn't sign Paynter as he is already on more at swindon than what you can offer.

Thanks


http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/8180955.Albion_can_t_afford_proven_goal_getter/

I've been quite entertained by some of those tracksuit-wearing teenagers' 'conversations' on youtube over the years. This kid has been plucked from there and plonked here.

I dislike B&HA. Nothing to do with Virgo or the play-off defeat - they were just doing their jobs (albeit fucking luckily) - it's the attitude of their fans. Delusions of Grandeur is the perfect way to describe them. My brother lived down there for a decade or so, & consequently I spent a lot of time there (no, we're not 'nice-boys'). He got to know loads of Brighton fans & couldn't believe how they all think that they support this big, famous, well-supported club. It's an attitude that I also noticed being prominent amongst them. It's a nice town and a cool place to be for the younger generations, and I think it maybe goes to their heads?

Yeah could you answer the question about not affording Paynters wages

Albion fan in actual peace, unlike the knob who came here to wind you lot up...

Personally I don't think we'll get Greer, its clear you lot rate him and although we're looking for an experience CB I doubt a divisional rival will want to sell, and Poyet/Bloom have said themselves they're not going to overpay, which is why Forster, Calderon etc were shown the door. Poyet's no mug and Bloom is a very shrewd businessman, they're not gonna piss money away on a 29yo by paying double his price because he's from a team we'll be rivals with next year.

For those of you wanting to know about Bloom- his family has been on the board for 3 generations, and he's a Brighton fan born and bred- and he sold a series of online poker and betting sites (after buying up Gala Bingo for £300m) and then got into luxury property all over the world. He's not Gaydamak and whilst he's by no means an Arab Sheikh, he's not going to walk out on the club. The interest free loans don't have to be paid back until 2023 and even then only when we're in profit, which will be steady with inital gates of 20,000+ falling to a regular gate of 12,000 (it may surprise you to know, away fans aren't the only ones who don't enjoy going to the withdean- we didn't ask for that shithole and with a new stadium you may be surprised how many fans come out of the woodwork). I think next year both you and us will be in the top 8 or so, and should be there or thereabouts. Unfortunately there are some deluded people who think automatic promotion is our divine right, which is bullshit, but I wouldn't bet against meeting each other in the play-offs (if you can hang onto key players like Austin/Greer etc).

How dare you come on here and be reasonable.  How are we supposed to insult you if you're going to be all rational!

Oh stop behaving like such a cunt.

We're fucking football fans, why do these irksome arguments about stadiums, attendances, season ticket sales, shirt sales etc. keep getting brought up? Guess what, the best football teams are good at errm, football. Neither of our clubs have performed particularly well in this respect (save one or two seasons) in the past decade. Neither of our teams is big, we were both on the brink of extinction at various points in our history - we shouldn't take the good times for granted.

If this is the pinacle of banter (goes for plenty of Swindon fans too) then I'm fucking ashamed. Let the football do the talking lads, Greer isn't going to fuck off to Brighton just because they're getting a shiny new stadium and all the fans inside are going to buy loads of food.

You can't afford Greer anyway. It will be very interesting to see your gates when Falmer opens. I doubt 20k though. You're no Southampton.

Agree with a lot of your post - it's their delluded mockney big up attitude that gets right up my nose. After Rovers, Oxford & Millwall, they're probably the ones I hate the most, closely followed by anything welsh of course, including lamb.


So to the mockney twat that came here looking to stir shit (a frequent past time down that way I hear) "go kiss my clackersack mug"........on second thoughts.... :no:

We've been waiting for a stadium to call our own for 13 years. Its probably a safe bet the first few games will be 20k. It won't last long, don't get me wrong- the plastic fans will dwindle away (we took 30,000 to cardiff in 2004 for example) but the hardcore and the addition of the fans who hate the hassle withdean brings will see it settle around 12,000 I reckon. I won't be putting money on it but we're the only club in the county with no real local rivals so other than the usual Prem suspects there's not a huge amount of competition.

And it depends on how much you value him at, whether we can afford him. In normal circumstances a (key player) 29yo with 1 year left on his contract in the 3rd tier...you could expect to pay £200k-£300k maybe. We could afford that without a doubt. If you held out for £1m...then yes, we'd look elsewhere.

If you wanted to pay 200-300K for a veteran centre back with a dodgy injury record he'd be yours...no doubt, especially if his money was increased.

I was refering to his wages.

According to this article posted by DRS, Poyet says you have a strict wage cap....

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/8180955.Albion_can_t_afford_proven_goal_getter/

You couldn't afford to match the wages Paynter was on here so do you think you could match or better the wages Greer is on???

Good post. I also feel thoroughly put in my place now.

I never said I thought we'd get him. I'm just saying you seem to have the idea that because we play in a shit ground we've got tuppence to spend. There's a difference between a wage cap and having no money at all. Whilst Paynter would've been up there amongst the top 10 or so wages in the division, I suspect Greer will not be on the same packet. Do I think he'd come? Probably not, unless he'd fallen out with the management. We're similar size clubs with similar prospects so- why move? Could we afford him if he wanted to come? I would say yes, based on what we were reportedly paying some players last year. I'm guessing you think no?

Every Town player has a price... I would still be very surprised I this happened.

No chance.

Agreed. Perhaps you could remind your friend 'SE1 Seagull' of this.

I don't think you have no money,my response was to the other lad who said you can offer better wages.Poyet himself has said this is not true. As for Greer's wages i wouldn't be suprised if he was on more than Paynter to be honest.

I think Greer was also impressed that the fans, under the Red Army Fund, paid for him to come here in the first place, but everyone has his price, but I don't think Greer would want to move.

To be fair to Brighton, KoT has said that he expects a significant increase in gates at Falmer, but whether they get 20k every home game is another story.

First year or so maybe, If they dont do well that will drop.

I have no doubt that Brighton will go in to better things.It's other clubs ignorance of how far we have come and how well we are actually doing that gets me.

Cash strapped etc is something that gets banded around still.

Would love to but as excited as I am by the new stadium (which does look mint by the way), its not gone to my head as much as some others who think its the key to Narnia. "Five years boys, Premiership!" No, I think not.

More than Paynter? Strikers always get a good deal because a good striker is the difference between an average team and a great one.  I'd be surprised, but then I know very little of your wage structure so that's only an outsider's opinion. And I agree completely about our wages- although it is a smokescreen to an extent, some silly reports came out saying we had £6-8m to spend and if that was true, players' agents would see £££ and they'd double/treble everything in a shot.

Paynter signed for us when we were still very unstable so doubt he was on much.

We signed Paynter when he was a reserve team player for Southend,usually i would agree but we made a big song and dance about signing Greer and making him our captain. I wouldn't be suprised if you made a bid for Greer tbh but would be suprised if he left not because we/you are the bigger club but i honestly think it would just be a sideways step.

If he does or he doesn't we will only know if he made the right decision next may.

Ha ha that Brighton bellend has posted the same shit on the adver site. At least he's amongst equals on there.

Crikey, some of our fans are embarrassing!

Tony Bloom is a lifelong fan of the club and he and has family have been on the board for generations. He has made his money through business and property.

He has put a substantial amount of his wealth into the new stadium to secure our future and he does not want that money back. We are very, very lucky to have a supporter with enough money behind him to do this.

Tony has said we would very much like to be in the Championship when our new stadium opens next summer and we are targeting the top 2 this coming season. He will not however spend stupid money, Southampton style, but our budget is competitive.

Last season we spent about 1m on players, unfortunately the majority of Russell Slade's signings we paid for didn't work out. The lads we got on the cheap had a much greater impact (Dicker, Crofts etc). So I think we're fully aware that money doesn't guarantee anything.

I think we will be there or thereabouts next season. Once Gus had come in and he'd brought in his own players we were much much improved. From the start of January to the end of the season we averaged 1.59pts a game. Over a season that’s 73 points. A point's total that would usually just miss out on the play-offs but a competitive total.

We've made a number of comments in the press about not having loads of money to spend. I suspect this is partly to stop other clubs asking for inflated prices and agents demanding higher wages.

I would take Poyet’s comment about Paynter with a pinch of salt. Liam Dickinson is on 5k a week and we’ve released higher earners like Kuipers, Virgo and Cox this summer whilst also increasing our playing budget by 10%.

A number of our fans have got a bit carried away; they’re excited, as we’ve been playing in a shit stadium with no playing budget for years now. Suddenly we get a bit of money and people think we can buy our way to the Premier League!

With regards to the crowd sizes at Falmer, it goes without saying that our attendances will increase as there’s that new stadium wow factor. Our attendances at Withdean are pretty poor but a huge number of people are suffering from Withdean fatigue. It’s quite depressing going to that stadium week in week out.

This whole comparing club sizes thing is a bit embarrassing really. We’re both League One clubs end of the day. I think we’ll be there or thereabouts next season. I think it would be a sideways move for Greer. I’d have thought it pretty unlikely that a) you’d accept a bid b) he’d want to move. However you don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. What Wilson really thinks of him, if he thinks he could use the money to buy a better replacement, whether Greer fancies a move to Brighton and so on?

hello shoreham moonraker here, every club has its deaconoids, I wouldnt worry to much.

Yep, you volunteering to be ours?

i thought i was automatic choice you cockernee muppet

Touche you wannabee bender.

Wannabe?

Isn't that just a tad generalistic?  :hmmm:

Ha ha i'd love to see Brighton do a Southend in a few years time. Their fans would look like right dicks.

That's it! This thread reminded me of something.

The Mulgrew saga when Southend fans came on here telling us how great they were and the big things they're going to do...

It's got a bit better on there recently, but still predominantly fuckwits as a rule.

Ha ha exactly.

ok then i'll put this basically, our clubs are currently average sized league 1 clubs. swindon had a good season we didnt. however just because you finished in the playoffs this year dont mean that you will next year. I think you have had your good season and next year will be midtable like yeovil the other year. you can take the piss out of withdean but its seen more championship football than your outdated county ground has seen in the last few years. while you were being relegated from league 1 we had just enjoyed playing in the championship (even though we went down too).

 as for not knowing about bloom, poker is just a hobby its spare change to him. he develops luxury properties around the world and still makes millions from online betting.not sure what though. our new stadium will enable us to rebuild our once large fanbase. we know the fanbase is still there because when we won league 2 and 1 the ticket office had 24 thousand ticket applications.   so good luck for the coming season and i look forward to beating you next season on our way to promotion.   btw I love the smileys   :cunt:      :smugfu:

As fun as your banter is, that doesn't explain why Greer would sign for you does it?

We took 32,000 to Wembley.

What's your point?

Just because you had a poor season and finished below us and lost to us twice doesn't mean next year will be any different.

If Poyet does a half decent job he'll fuck off first chance he gets just like he did here and Leeds.

The County Ground and the Wisdean dont compare, stop trying to compare them  :suicide:
As far as Falmer goes, after the initial excitement wears off, I think it'll be just another hollow, lifeless husk of a ground. Been to Colchester lately??

I said this on Page 4...

To go from a Captain to Rear Admiral might be a tempting offer.

Brighton & Hove Albion -- so right on and trendy. Celebrity fans, bla bla blah

Is Fatboy Slim still on the decks these days?

Yup, the poop deck I heard.

Isn't the poop deck where sailors go for a shit?

do u remeber when the county ground held premiership football with teams like man utd and arsenal playin us when was the last tym the witdean held prem football? ummmm nope. and also how many times we beat u this season? how many times do we have to beat a little side like you to realise we are the better club then you

sheesh !

Oh Brighton fans u do make me laugh,
Its not about money or fans at all, You spent heaps more than we did last year, and look at al the shit u bought, and where u ended up, we spent 125k where did we end up?
Its all about what happens on that pitch and the people u have in the backroom, we have a QUALITY manager in Danny Wilson who is more than anything committed to this club and puts his heart and soul into, Poyet is simply using you as a platform to fuck off by atleast January, so say goodbye to your playoff hopes cuz when Poyet leaves , like he did with us, you'll end up with Slade mk2 and end up fighting relegation again,
Good LUck with this season, you need it ;)

Your just going to end up as the Darlington of the South. Big ground , no fans or going up ther shitter (no pun intended) like pompy. A good chairman dosn't always throw the cash around, it isn't sustainable. So fuck off back to bummer land barymore.  :gay:

Double sheesh !

With you there nev. Already deleted a few posts, but could do with a bit more me thinks.

why delete posts?

Writing in text speak is deeply annoying!

Because the forum is generally directed at those who are not mongs. Mongism can be contagious and too many mongs spoil the cheese discussions. Once something starts to look a bit mongy, i come over all mongist and delete stuff so it no longer looks like posters are a few braincells short of a spastic.

 :girlgiggle:

how old are you? shouldn't you be at work? im suprised you even know what mongism means no doubt you had to google it

i think you'll find yourself on a holiday soon with cheek like that you young scrag

You know if you use the [Shift] key, you can do capitals as well.

Thanks for the advice

Ha.

What an amusing little Bopard you are.

Don't argue with the forum boss!!

to say you've only posted 5 times you're a cheeky cunt aren't you

Influx of thisisers?

I can see the forum IQ dropping before my eyes.

Calm down no need to use naughty words you may have your post removed tut tut.  :D

Silly cunt. Swearing is allowed. Posting like a fucking stupid cunt is not.

The term: "The Barry giveth, and the Barry taketh away" springs to mind.

Took quite a dive when I showed up. But fuck me sideways, who is this gobby cunt?

I am 31 and at work. But that's irrelevant, you asked a question, i answered it. If you don't like the answer you can ignore it. As far as i'm aware mongism isn't a word. Thank you. x

BANG !   And the mong is gone.

Yeah, but look at you now. You've learned the ways of the TEF. As our old motto used to say, "improving the Country one post at a time".


:clap: Very funny.

You still talking? your boring me  :smugfu:

Ban this fucker!

Talking bollocks is allowed but as is swearing  :cunt: but talking shit is not. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I know what I say holds little sway, amongst such heavy weights. But I say keep him for a rainy day.

You calling us fat?

Thanks for taking it

A great 24 hours in the Greer thread!

And anyway, if Brighton has all this money to spend, they could sign ex-England defender Sol Campbell. He's available on a free and he'll probably fit right in at Brighton, and as he proved with Notts County last season, he wouldn't mind dropping down divisions for the right 'project'.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: greer to brighton what a joke i think the post about aljofree being on 9k a week is more tangible.

made me laugh though  :clap:

Brighton should go for Aljofree.

A player they might actually get.

I had a browse on their forum earlier, some common sense posters but mostly  :idiot:

The summer tends to bring out the worst in many fans... Especially pre-July 1st.

I did read somewhere Brighton were being linked with him as well.  It was last week though before the whole Greer thing started.

And I made that up...

I can see the Adver nicking that in the next few days as another exclusive saying that Brighton are no longer looking at Greer, but speaking to Campbell instead...

Very much like here then.

Exactly  :)

Oh indeed!

Where's Ninja Elephant lately, he could give an impartial view to this tiresome Swindon / Brighton "thing".
Oh yes, the last time I went to Brighton was in 1997 (has it changed much?  :) )

Can this thread be put to sleep?

What a waste of my time, reading through this shit.

Completely agree !

hahaha joteddyred.......what a wanker

yes................... and the majority of it has been perpetuated by the sudden invasion of the spastic mongs

Good evening. I consider myself quite a down to earth Brighton fan, without any delusions of grandeur, unlike a few other fans who seem to have become very high and mighty since Bloom tookover, funded the stadium and hired Gus Poyet as manager.

I agree with a lot of what has been said in terms of the clubs being similar sizes at the moment. Both have potential but both are league one clubs at present.

Bloom has probably a lot more money than we first thought, bearing in mind the lengths he is going to in trying to make Falmer the very best in terms of facilities and hospitality. He is desperate to make the ground a blue print for future stadiums and stadium upgrades. For example making the away end decorated for each game with articles and pictures of the visiting teams history whilst having the lighting based on that teams colours. These are the sorts of things that are making Brighton fans so enthusiastic about it. I'm sure we'll get a surge of ticket sales because there are a LOT of fans who refuse to go to Withdean. That's based on tickets being £25, no roof and a shit view. I hope we'll increase season ticket sales from 4,000 odd to nearer 10,000. But only time will tell on that one.

Regarding Greer, it would be a massive coup for Brighton to sign someone of his stature. I have very bigs doubts over whether it'll happen like most of you guys. However since Gus has taken over there had been a HUGE improvement in the professionalism of the club and the quality of our football. Highlighted today by Inigo Calderon turned down a lucatrive contract at Saints, who will surely go up this year, to sign a 3 year deal at Brighton. The last 6 months have given Brighton fans so much optimism but has lead to a number becoming arrogant and way above their station. Bloom hasn't splashed the cash on players, and I don't think he will go overboard. He is a sensible chap, with no where near the amount of cash your backers sound like they have. Yes he has spent a fortune on the stadium but we needed that to get back on a level playing field with the rest of the clubs in this league. We've lost too many players and managers because of the ground, Steve Coppell and Peter Taylor for example, that we had to get out of Withdean and that looked doubtful until Bloom came along with a £90m interest free loan.

I really hope we'll be challenging for a playoff place next season. I am sure we won't be near the top two but since Gus took over we have had playoff contenders form. I think we may well be neck and neck with yourselves next season. Losing Payter must be a big loss to you? Are there talks of signing a replacement to partner Austin?

I've rambled quite a bit so I do apologise, but I wanted to get across that not all Brighton fans are arrogant tossers. All the best for the future and hope to see you in the Championship come 2011/2012.

Good timing Fred

In all honesty 4D, the post below mine is rational and put together well.

I am annoyed not only from arrogant tossers from other clubs, but maily from the illiterate, text speaking fucking idiots that have invaded since just before the final.

couple that the The Fucking Ghost of Fucking Noble and I am very very quickly thinking of ditching this place after 6 years of banter

No don't do it Fred! Come and hold my hand, together we can clean it up, i don't have the bollocks to do anything. :)

In all honesty, I'd love to ban the illiterate, but then you get abuse for being Hitler. There's no rights or wrongs when you try to maintain some level of normality.

ys fred you is rite innit blud.safe as fuk

L8r M8

It is indeed a good post.

I think the "text typers" will get bored in a couple of weeks (well, when they finish their summer hols) and drift away.

In all seriousness I like a good reasoned debate but chose to join this forum mainly due to the laughs it gives me (agreed there is some dire stuff on here, but there is generally some belly laughs to be had - more than I get from the TV TBH).

Don't go Fred!

fred seriously.if it winds you up then just ignore the posts that irritate you.
no need to stop posting.most mongs dont last long anyway.

Dont go fredder!

Fuck off then you miserable cunt  :)

Could say the same about TEF/NSC - both seem very similar to me on my admittedly limited sampling of NSC, but you lot do seem to have a better than average sample of reasonable posters compared to some of the dicks on other club's forums we occasionally get visited by.

I can't decide whether that's really cool or massively naff :) Depends how it's done I guess. But it's exactly the sort of thing that would have us evenly split between "Wow, how slick are our board compared to the tossers we've had before" and "Bah! Bring back the pissing in each other's pockets on the terraces". So I can understand the excitement it would generate. From what I've seen of Falmer, it does look pretty woosh and seems to avoid the flatpack/YACB (Yet Another Concrete Bowl) failures of so many recent new builds so fair play to you. I'd still be a little concerned about how/where the money's coming from if I were you lot (and how/when/on what terms its repayable, what happens if he gets bored/goes bust/dies/sells up etc) but then I guess so long as you're comfortable that's been looked into then happy days.
An aim in which I think you've succeeded admirably

Personally I like the sound of it.

If I went into the concourse of an away end on our travels to see pics of 1969 etc, coupled with red and white lighting, I would be well impressed and fixtures permitting, would definately go back again

I thgt yu ad fked ov coz ov txt spk n that

I believe north stand polls is their tef equivalent

Skysports.com understands Swindon Town have rejected a second offer from Brighton & Hove Albion for Gordon Greer.

Brighton tried to sign the Scot at the end of last season and have now returned with a £250,000 bid for the 29-year-old.

However, the Robins have knocked back the latest offer from their League One rivals as they look to hang on to the centre-half.

Greer has 12 months remaining on his contract at the County Ground and was a virtual ever-present in the Swindon team last season following his arrival from Doncaster Rovers.

He made 53 appearances in all competitions for Danny Wilson's side, but missed the play-off final defeat by Millwall through suspension after being sent off in the semi-final against Charlton Athletic.

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That's probably the end of that.

when was the first offer?

Hardly surprising... £250,000 isn't enough for the club to consider it (even if that is his worth). Plus, Brighton probably didn't benefit from a player at a club where he is...

1) A guarenteed starter.

2) Captain.

3) Happy.

If I was Gordon Greer, I'd be seriously hacked off if I knew that Brighton were the only club to come in for me after the blinding season he's just had with us.  It would be like being back at school and hearing on the grapevine that someone fancied you...only top learn it was the fat lass with buck teeth at the back of the class who bears more than a passing resemblance to Bella Emberg.

Well, if I recall that Leeds service station correctly...

So where are these stories coming from? His agent? Could it be he does want a move away?

   
Only club to come in for him YET.

Ah yes. Good point, well made

I don't think it is these stories, just that Sky's idea of "news" stories for lower leagues is just to regurgitate wholesale any old crap a week or so late, making it look like it's new story when it's actually just the same bullshit that was roundly dismissed as bullshit a week ago everywhere else. e.g. the other thread re Charlie Austin where they've re-run the Adver's story from a week ago.

What was sky sports "source" on that one?

The Adver I expect who's source was probably Sky

Hope we keep him, solid.

Classic the North Stand Chat is full of comedians

Quote:
Originally Posted by Programme_Seller 
Chairman sounds a bit of a pratt, If after making verbal offer its acceptable you then formalise the deal with a written one.
Having knocked back Tony's verbal offer what is the point of putting it in writing if it not going to go any further. It a complete waste of time, money, paper and ink !

Is exectly what I thought when I read it.

I am wondering if the player is likely to want to go if he knows we are interested, and their Chairman is trying to play down the situation. Also, I believe, some players have clauses that their Agent must be advised about offers etc., and they are trying to stop the matter going any further.

Obviously, the differing valuations is normal, and only to be expected.

The one thing that you could never ever call Fitton is a "pratt".

It's amusing to still see that others clubs fans,especially from L1, still cannot get their collective
heads around the fact that our Board are very,very professional in their good business practices.

Long may it continue!

I'd be shocked if Greer wanted to leave us to go to Brighton tbh.

Brighton must be one of these really really piss poorly run clubs who accept spoken bids for their players?

I would Imagine the conversation went someting like Bloom: "we'll give you 150k for Greer. AF "fuck off" Bloom Ha ha it was a bluff, I'll raise it to 250K.  AF I'm all in.  Bloom, Bollocks I fold.

A chat among chairmen in Malta does not equate to a bid, does it?

Guess who weve got on the first day of the season . looks like brighton will be coming to what they call a shitty ground

Greer will be suspended either way won't he.

What with Brightons home following being 20,000* I expect they should bring at least 8,000 down here.


*14,000 hardcore loyal  fans put off by the Withdean.

Couldnt have hoped for a bigger game on the 1st day of the season, playing the Manchester United of the South coast.

Tickets will be hard to come by what with all the plastics that will turn up just to watch Brighton.

It's always so intimitdating, the way they come and pack out the away end. They put the rest of this division to shame. If only there were more clubs like them.

Violent conduct is normally a 3 month ban.

Blimey, that is a bit harsh for a kick in the chops!  You would get less for ABH!

have to say as its first game of the season brighton will probably fill the bank.

They'll defo bring 1500+

Heres hoping for torrential rain then   :)

I think Brighton fans are probably immune to that now.

They bring around 1000 even if they're in poor form, so with it being the first game plus they're all walking around with a chubby in their trousers thinking they're going to be in the Champions League in 3 years, I think you can safely double that.

I don't like their fans generally but I respect their away following.

I think away followings throughout the football League started really slipping from about 2004. And Brighton are a perfect example, that season Brighton brought about 2000 for a game at Christmas which was a great effort. Since theyve been back in the 3rd tier theyve never been on the bank.

Not related to the point, but that 2003 (not 2004, as we all know Brighton won the play offs in 04) Christmas game we played fucking brilliant.

Miglioranzi at his best.

Leon Knight giving it the big'un to the Town End when he made it 1-1. Fired us right up.

Agreed, cracking game.

Town End at its best as well.

Yep, looking back - I think that was probably our 2nd best peformance of the season.

Topped only by the 1-1 draw at home to QPR, the day England won the Rugby World Cup. QPR had a good team then as well, we more than matched up.

Opening day against Sheffield Wednesday in 3rd.

Bit like this season, really good - till the end.

I hope it doesnt take us another 6 years to finish 5th in L1 again.

Years back a day at the Goldstone Ground was to be looked forward to..went there many times and when Peter Ward was at his peak the atmosphere was brilliant..they have a really big following and once back in a decent stadium will be a force again....relatively speaking of course.

Yeh the Goldstone was always a good trip, I agree leefer. Train to Hove, down those steps next to a pub then all singing under that bridge, fucking loud which always got me fired up. Proper old-school ground that.

Then a night out in Brighton, hopefully ending with a back-scuttle on the pebbles.

BBC radio state we turned down an official Brighton bid for Greer.

Thank fuck for that.

We best not give in. Do not sell.

Given that Brighton haven't gone away after last weeks 'no bid' story, I'd assume they think Greer wants to go to Brighton?

Thankfully the club don't need to sell. But I'd be surprised if that is the end of it.

It won't be the end.

Its up to us to stand firm and not give in, even when Brighton throw more cash at us.

Greer would be hard to replace at the back. We should get him in for contract talks asap.

Don't get me wrong, i love Greer, but if we were to receive a bit of over £200k i would've thought accepting it makes business sense, what with him being 29 and having only 1 year left. Or am i speaking bollocks again? :)

Every player has a price though but for us to sell our captain and possibly best defender then it would have to be a bloody good offer too good to refuse

I don't think think you are Barry. Would we really want to extend Greer's contract, ? would he be good enough for the Championship at 30-31 ?

Against that only the management know how influential he is as a captain and organiser on the pitch so that'll need to be considered, as would the need to find a replacement. I'd say £200k was a bit on the low side.

I'd be more concerned at getting Douglas Lucas and Cuthbert  into contract extension talks before Greer.

I would say the level we should be looking at should be close to £500k if we were serious about letting him go.

£200k isnt nearly enough. As well as being a good defender he clearly has a big influence on the back 4 when he plays (see wembley defensive performace for evidence) and for a lower league centre back is very comfortable on the ball.

I think we'd find it very had to replace him with someone with those 3 attributes, which is why I wouldnt sell for anything less the a mental offer (£1m+!!)

Theres no point selling someone for cash if you cant replace what they bring to the team with that cash.

I think it should lie a little bit deeper than just the individual. Greer has his faults - he can be a bit sluggish, gives away silly free kicks and makes the odd mistake. However, his worth to the team is more than just about him as an individual. The whole back line looks more assured with him in there and you should avoid breaking up a good centre back partnership if you can (like a good strike partnership, Paynter/Austin ya de ya de ya da). He makes a good captain in my opinion.

Merely on him as an individual player, I think we could find someone just as good if not better with the money received. However, you have to think about the team as a whole.

Dave is right also, if he does want to stay sign him up for another couple of years.

i think the money offered for greer if around £200-250,000 is fair for him.

that said, i dont want him to go as he is a great skipper and fine centre half.

for what he brings to the back line and team in general i think £250k for him would be an insult personally.

yes he gives away silly free kicks etc but is always 100% comited and organises the defence supurbly.

totally agree.  Whilst he was superb last season JPM for example would be easier to replace than greer. As we wouldnt neceesarily need to go for a similar type of player (ie the beckham type right winger) there would be a much larger number of options availble with £x to spend on a replacement.

(Just an example, I'm not advocating selling McGovern)

why would you want to sell JPM. he was one of our better players last season and if he continues again this season he could prove pivotal in our bid for promotion.

foolish man

I'd say JPM was one of our least replacable players! Meh, what do I know.

i was fishing for CT but you'll do Batch  :fishing:

Wouldnt like to see him go.

Fuck off Flash.

I'll bite at anything at lunch time.

Really? I'll let Leroy know.

Greer was a major player for us last season.

Last season we did well.

We shouldn't even be thinking about selling any of our major players from last season.

OK............glad to see the back of the cunt.

Greer not for sale at any price. That's the way it should be.

That's stupid. I'd let him go for £300k.

Selling your best players to divisional rivals is stupid.

How much would it cost (in fees & extra wages) to get a suitable replacement.

Double that, and that should be his price

I'd settle for a million.

That's apart from the fact that we're sponsoring him

Exactly, so presumably the club have to ask us before they could sell him :D

Yeah!

I don't understand why Brighton would want to pay for a player like Greer. That has to be plenty of other centre backs available on a freebie from a Championship club, why not spend the money you save on extra wages to get someone better?

It's one of the reasons I'm glad we've got Wilson as manager - he waits his time, does his research and gets players at the right price (ie free). Rather than just looking at the best players at your rivals and putting in bids for them.

Greer is frustrating because he obviously has heart, yet your hearts in your mouth every time the ball goes near him incase he fucks up. but youve got to love his commitment. My youngest boy (5) is still getting over Paynter leaving so Greer has to stay. Besides, I cant spend the whole game telling him who every fucker is. glad to see the Rose signing though, one less loan mong to look at. ha ha.

Sorry, what?

YER HEARTS IN YER MOUTH EVERY TIME THE BALL GOES NEAR HIM INCASE HE FUCKS UP. unless its in the air. Was that loud enough ?

Yep, loud enough.

Still total bollocks though.

He appears to be confusing a slightly balding scruffy looking white man with a black man with braided hair who used to play for us and is now found in aberdeen. Easy mistake to make.

If this is the sort of money being talked about, then I think they need to get round the table with Gordon and see if he wants to extend his contract another year.

If he doesnt want to extend it then the board should consider the offer.

I think bids of 200k+ for a 29 year old defender show just how good Gordon Greer is.

According to the article in the paper our valuation is £450k.  Also in the same article it says Prutton is completing the signing today.

£450k for a 29 year old League 1 defender?

If anyone offers that we should snap their hands off.  Danny will probably be able to find a similar standard of player on a free and we walk away quids in.

I agree, 450k could buy us four or five players...

My only concern would be losing our talisman. I'm sure Wilson could replace him though, and in Lucas he has someone with captain material. Maybe.

As is Douglas and possibly Pruton, let alone Mcgovern.

That's all well and good but none of them are defence leading centre backs.

We shouldn't be selling off this team, period.

Add to it and get fucking promoted.

Yeah, but if the offers that good. I would take it.

Both Wilson and Fitton have said we are a selling club and by selling of an asset every year or two is the only way a club like ours survives. Greer is an excellent captain and i wouldn't want to see him go at all. Realistically though if Brighton are foolish enough to offer 450k (not sure where this figure has come from?) then we aren't the sort of club that can ignore it. Greer is 29 and in the last year of his contract. As stated 450k could bring in a 2 or 3 excellent siginigs, maybe even another leader?

I agree Dave, but if someone offers silly money then we should take it. Would you rather keep Greer or buy two new greers and a new striker?

No brainer.

If you could get two new Greers and a striker for the price of Greer then don't you think Brighton would have gone after these mystical free transfer Greers in the first place?

If Brighton are offering decent money for a 29 year old defender with 1 year left to run then that to me indicates there aren't enough 'Greers' out there. 

So wouldn't we just end up splashing all the Greer money on a new Greer anyway - which leaves us no better off.

Spencer has it spot on. Get him in, sit him down and offer him a new deal. Let him make the decision for us. If he commits to us then we can reject all offers of any money. If he doesn't commit then we think about cashing in.

That depends on your idea of silly money Juddie. For example, 250k isn't enough in my book, 600k and you have to think about it. Anything inbetween is a bit meh. I realise 600k is unrealistic BTW, hence silly money!

Replacing Greer would be difficult, I have no doubts.

you obviously know your football.

Of course there are plenty of other Greer type players out there, no-one is irreplaceable. Who thought Charlie would be a 20 goal striker to replace Coxy? Plus if we did sell Greer it would be because Wilson had someone of similar ilk in the pipeline surely?

However i do agree about offering him a new contract and letting him make the decision.

No because i suspect Poyet's knowledge of players in the lower leagues is lot less than Danny's.  Poyet's knowledge is probably restricted to first team players within the league he manages whereas Danny will know about all english leagues/scotland etc

I'll fully admit I'm no expert of Brightons back room staff however, I assume they have coaches and scouts who do know the lower leagues? How extensivley is another matter though...

Brightons scout watched Greer at least 7 times last season.

Greer came to us because he could not hold a position in an average championship side.

But he has been bloody fantastic for us in Division One, and I'm sure he will be good again in Division One next season. Fitton/Wilsons policy seems to be buy players who will adapt in a higher level, if we do go up Greer might not be first choice next season, so with one year left on his contract it is in our interests to make sure he is here for coming season, but it will probably be his last season, he didn't cost fuck all to start with, not worth trading in now.
We really missed him at Wembley, showed just how much he held them together at the back.

spot on dell boy.
i'm not surprised brighton want him.he would do a fine job at any of the teams in our league.
i dont think some people appreciate how good the bloke has been for us

Doncaster fans seemed to rate Greer, like we rated Barry Corr 'when he's fit'

He's played a lot of games for us so hopefully all of that is behind him.

Don't see why he couldn't have a good go at Championship level.

I rate greer very highly but am also realistic that if a big offer, as previously muted, came in we'd have to consider selling.

not many greer's out there? This is the best market for players in years, and I'd back Wilson to spot a player over Poyet every day of the week.

I'm agreed I'd be happy for Greer to stay. He was awesome last season.

All I'm saying is 450k would give us a three players compared to one.

Yep, rate him too but if the offers good, hes a seller.

500k profit in a year for a 29 year old wouldn't be bad going.

Still wouldn't sell our captain though, unless we have someone better lined up.

I'd also expect a fair chunk of the cash to become available to Wilson if he wanted it.

we should be making the squad stronger than last year,not making it weaker and having to re-build it.
we were bloody close to being good enough to go up.it doesn't need alot to get us there.
flogging greer would be a big mistake.

I was just having a go on FIFA, as I was tinkering with my starting line the Mrs. was watching over my shoulder and asked me why I was fielding Germain Greer  :suicide:

Well, the germains beat us comfortably enough.

It would be sad to lose a player of such character.

One thing Wilson and Fitton did last year was bring in players who ordinary people really look up to. Greer, Douglas and Lukas all fall into that category. It just brings all the pride back into the terraces.

I think we might find another defender as good as Gordon Greer. But we wont find one with a better attitude.

Speaking of attitude leeds fans seem to think Prutton had a hugely positive affect on their dressing room, so all good there.

Yeah, his attitude was outstanding away at Charlton in the Play Offs, and walking off the pitch at half time seemingly bickering with other players is also a winner.

Greer getting sent off and forcing Wilsons hand was probably the best thing that could have happened to us that night.

I wouldnt say a bad, rash mistake of a tackle means you have a bad attitude.

I think the challenge was born from frustration at the time tbh. Nothing to do with attitude.

Without doubt, we were dead and buried until Greer did "his bit".

Either way, he's got to stay at Swindon and I'm glad he will be.

Surely if he had as good an attitude as was said, then he wouldnt of got overly frustrated. I agree though, it was a challenge more born out of frustration than malicious or cunty in any sort of way.

Yeah.

Lets just get rid then, innit.

I'd rather a player got frustrated at a poor Town performance that not care!

as long as frustration doesn't always equal red card.

In my mind, that was probably the best illegal tackle I've ever seen from a Town player, engineered from frustration, and carried out on one of footballs more deserving recipients.

brighton fans seem to think they are going to up their bid tomorrow, do you think greer doesnt want to stay here? or brighton are just splashing the cash?

Brighton are just desperate because they know they have a shit team that's all.

WTF do Brighton fans know?

We're going to have to get used to the fact that other clubs are going to make offers for our players and...get this...FITTON'S GOING TO TURN THEM DOWN!!!

Unbelieveable I know, but it's going to happen. I think it would be a very bad move to let Greer go and I can't see any reason why it would happen.

The fact that it has been dragging on for a few weeks now suggests something might be going on and that, perhaps, Greer is interested in going to Brighton. But why would he?

He could have fallen out with Wilson over the red card, unlikely as Greer knows he was a twat. He could want to move to a bigger club with a better chance of promotion next season, unlikely as it's only the deluded Brighton fans that think they fit that bill. He wants a longer contract or more money, the most likely in my opinion with Greer possibly using Brighton's interest as a negotiating tactic.

I don't get this thinking. We've practically told Brighton to fuck off, but on the flip side, it's rather a decent wedge, so I think it's more a case of the facts that we can't stop them bidding and if they bid high enough we'd be dick heads not to accept.

I know you're not being a rumour monger, but the other parts of your post could easily "Chinese whisper" their way on to thisis as Greer wanting out and hating Wilson. I hate the thought of that.

You do realise it's only supposed to be 80% bollocks, don't you?

It hasn't been 'dragging on' at all..Brighton have made an offer(s) and AF has quite emphatically told them 'NO'. Look at this..

"We had an offer and we rejected it and that’s the end of that.”

What else exactly would you like him to do or say??

That Greer has said he has no desire to move to Brighton and has signed a contract extension. That would do it.

Its not over until that happens or Brighton sign someone else instead.

I just had a look at that North Stand Chat and I've got to say I'm a little bit confused to be honest. Yes their new ground is going to be pretty nice asthetically but it not gonna be anywhere near 'one of the best grounds in the country' as they keep trying to claim, it's not even going to be particularly big. They just seem to think that ground will guarentee them Premiership football soon and that every player in the world will want to play for them because of it. When we redevelop the county ground then we'll be in exactly the same position but we aren't all bleating that we're about to become some 'massive' club.

If Greer goes it'll be because of money and nothing else and will just show they're having an all or nothing punt to try and play their first match at the new stadium in the Championship. It'll be nothing to do with players perceiving them as an 'upcoming force'.

Apparently Poyet always gets his man according to the comments under this new article!
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/8248105.Poyet_plans_next_move/

It says no such thing!

My bad. I misread that.

What a bunch of arrogant gits.

I thought he was Uruguayan, not Canadian.

My thoughts exactly if you read some posts on there forums some people suggest players are delaying signing for a club just incase the mighty Brighton are interested in them. I dread to imagine what the BHA supporters are going to be like next season when they are actually in their new stadium, Leeds eat your heart out!

I think Fitton should employ a fat lady to sing "Fuck off you're not signing Greer" in Brighton town centre.

Not really. Wilson has admitted every player has a price. If Gus is determined, he can bid an ammount you will accept.

Err not really. I think you'll find we know most people are holding out on better offers and thus rejecting us. Prutton for a start and possibly Lee Hendrie.

Every player has their price, for the old board it would have been the first offer that came in.

No one thinks it brings a guarentee of Premiership football and no one thinks every player will want to play for us. No one thinks we are massive or will become massive. My god you lot like to exagerate dont ya!

Of course we're bloody excited moving into a new stadium. We've been without our own home since 97! Too see the stadium going up is just amazing.

To see cunting thing go down will be better.

You're more than welcome to Lee Hendrie - a joke of a player who has pissed his supposed talent up the wall along with Steve Bruce's daughter - allegedly.
As dor David Prutton - if he's going to come to either of us, its us.

Lee Hendrie!!!! AAaaahahaha

What a great signing in league 1 he would be. Not.

Lee Hendrie a man in a baby's body wouldn't last long in league one.  I did rate him years ago at Villa but he's past it and lost that pace that once made him so dangerous.

Shame as he looked a good prospect until you realised he was 25 not 15.

We had him on loan last season and you could see he had that touch of class about him. He wasn't brilliant for us by any means but he did pretty well.

He might be able to do a few games, but when was the last time he did a good season? A decade?

Our success last season was built on players like JP McGovern, Douglas, Greer, Lukas, playing 50 games +. Solid motivated professionals. Charlie Austin played just about every single game from November onwards.

Lee Hendrie is a complete football washout! With the Premier League as it is now you get more and more of these jokers hanging around. Ruddock nearly finnished us off. Eddie Newton nearly finnished off the scum.

I read hes holding out for money, and Im sure some set of mugs will pay it. HOPEFULLY YOU!!!

I know it's starting to feel a bit like this thread is dedicated to picking on Brighton, but eh, the nail that sticks up gets hit. I just saw this comment from a Brighton fan on 606, where a Yeovil fan asked what Virgo was like. I think it's fair to say I won't be the only one laughing should they fail to live up to their own rather amazing opinions of themselves.

To be fair, he didn't go over the top. Saying you're pushing for the play-offs is hardly taking the Leeds approach is it! It'll be interesting to see whether Brighton are as good as they think they are this year (which in my view would mean finishing in the top 7).

For what its worth:

06/07 - 29
07/08 - 21
08/09 - 12
09/10 - 17

We've got a decent midfield as it is, Matt Sparrow, Alan Navarro and Gary Dicker. Hendrie would add a touch of class to that but it doesn't seem like its going to happen at the moment.

I think the Virgo comment is fair enough, considering we've shown our intent by attempting to prize Greer from you guys. There's a thread in one of your other sub forums on here (football talk or something) that shows points won in the last 23 games of last season. We were 6th. Poyet clearly got us playing a lot better.

Whether we can maintain that form and maintain a push at the top 6 remains to be seen. :)

He did a great job for you at the end of the season without a doubt, but they were games you had to win to stay up initially and once you had pulled yourselves away from the relegation threat you had lots of games against sides who couldn't go up or down. Form at the end of any season can be very misleading.

Take Tranmere for example they probably had the same end of season run as Brighton, whilst the likes of Colchester, Swindon would find themselves at the bottom end of the league over their last 10 games.

At the end of the season the table tells the truth, Brighton were a bottom half side, end of.

Dear Mr Seagull:
I was told off the other day when I was down on coast for calling a 'gull' a 'seagull' this chap was adamant there is no such bird as a 'Seagull' it is a 'Gull' never knew that before, please confirm if this is correct?

That it correct. Although I didn't know, I just checked myself because I was curious. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gull

Very true. Interestingly if you look at our stats we actually got the same about of points in the first 23 games as we did in the last 23. Talk about being consistant.

We weren;t consistent, it's just that our inability to win games at the start of the season was matched by a poor run in. I'm sure we were much better from November to March!

Well as a pundit said (Claridge maybe?), we were unplayable during that period. And we were, no one could touch us. 8)

Greer is still here?

Interesting.

...except Rovers!

I don't recall us playing wovers at all last season?

Greer today, gone tomorrow?

We beat Tranmere Rovers, twice!

they're getting worse

Another BHA fan yes... but its very interesting reading other Forums just to see how differently people view things.

Reading this thread much like many on our own forum, you have to trawl through all the rubbish of "fuck of you faggots" and "broke back mountain"...blah blah blah... and in there you will find the odd genuine decent post worthy of comment.

Yes we have a fair amount of posters who seem to think that now the new ground is on the way that promotion is inevitable and the premiership beckons in 5 years.... however anyone with half a brain knows that this is not the case.

But i can't have a pop at them for dreaming. We have been without a ground of our own for 13 years and counting !....just think about that..... we played home games at Gillingham for a period of that time !....

How many Swindon fans would turn up every week at Withdean season after season... and sit with no cover at that Shithole for £24 a game !... let me tell you it tests even the most loyal fan.

Its only natural that some are going to get very carried away. Moving from an athletics track to a 22,500 all seater top of the range stadium is going to get the most frigid of pussy slightly damp i would think.

The chairman has paid the £80 million out of his own pocket to build it and the loan is interest free and to be basically paid back as and when. We would not have got funding from a bank to build it in the current climate. So the chairman obviously has money as do your backers.

With regard to Greer, i would say the deal will happen, i honestly dont believe we would keep coming back with increased bids if we hadnt been given encouragment from the player to do so.

We are not however paying silly money either on transfer fees or on wages...despite what people think. All of our signings upto now have been free transfers. We have also have lost our skipper Andrew Crofts to Norwich 200k ish ( understandable ) and got fees in for Dickinson to Barnsley 150k ish... we are only bidding what we have got in on transfers so far.

Hardly a club pissing money up the wall expecting players to cum in there pants at the thought of joining the mighty BHA.

I myself would be delighted if we can secure a top 10 finish this season, flirting with the play offs maybe if things go well, all dependant on the signing of a few more quality players, Greer being one, we need a leader in the centre of defence desperately. And continue to play the excellent football Poyet has started to implement.

I have no doubt Swindon will continue to be one of those top sides also, good luck this season...excpet when you play us.

Fuck off you gay twat.

Non. To be fair its a bit of a commute and usually Swindon only play their once a season.



:)


That's my worry, maybe he isn't happy here for some reason as (no offence) it would be a sideways move football wise.

That said, he has 1 year left on his contract and so needs to secure a new one. An agent may be talking up interest to get him a better deal here, or if not then Brighton.

I would agree it would be a sideways move for him at present. I can only assume he just wants to give it a go somewhere else, if in fact the deal does happen, or he is just trying to get the best deal out of you he can for a new contract.
We are looking at other centre backs now apparantly. Covering our options in case we dont get Greer or playing hard ball indicating we wont pay more i dont know.

Maybe he just wants to live somewhere nicer.

Greer won't go.

"Greer won't go, won't gooooooooooooooooooooo, won't go away... Greer won't go, won't goooooooooooooo, i'm begging you to say, whey eh, eh...."

I'm here all week.

Well I would, whilst I've never had to encounter anything as bad as the Withdean multiple times. I'd watch Swindon in any old fucking dump because the end of the day - its still Swindon Town.


Unless I've missed something - you havent? you said you had made a bid when you hadnt. You made a bid, we rejected it and its all gone quiet since?

Also, if I were you - I wouldnt get too excited about Gus Poyet - he's left every job he's had first chance he gets.









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Poyet was offered the managers job here but decided to follow Wise instead.

I think if you had bid as many times as you claim, we'd have heard about it.

Perhaps he didnt want the Swindon job ?

Im only reporting what has come out of BHA, that several bids have been turned down, wether your chairman chooses to report them or not is upto him.

To be fair I wouldn't have blamed him if that was the case at the time. We were a bit of a mess.

Im only reporting what has come out of BHA, that several bids have been turned down, wether your chairman chooses to report them or not is upto him.
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Well if it came out of Brighton then it must be true.

If you choose not to report the bids it must be true you havent had any then....

Yes we all know talk in the Brighton papers is worth more than words direct from the Chairman, how stupid of us.

Probably bullshit but there is a rumour going around on our board that Greer has lost the captaincy at your place.

Any truth in that ?

Confirmation of several bids have come direct from our Chairman and Manager, not just made up by the local rag.

Please copy on here any links confirming this, not seen it anywhere myself.

we all know they are after greer.we dont need evidence to back this up.
if he leaves, then it will be for money.for football reasons he has no need to go anywhere

Agreed, if i could be bothered to trawl through old interviews with the chairman and manager and find quotes i could.

This is all getting a bit silly. All that matters is who greer is contracted to - us. If this changes you will have crossed our palm with a large amount of coin for a 29 yr old league 1 defender with 1 year left on his contract. If and when this happens then there will be something to discuss.

Well it seems you can be bothered to argue to the toss on here, so why not.

Thats because they don't exist, all both clubs have admitted to is a firm interest from Brighton, one firm offer that was turned down and that we have no intention of selling him.  You started shouted the odds saying lots of bids, all I am asking is back that up with facts.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/argusgeneralsportsnews/8220549.Greer_deal_may_falter_on_money/


i foound this in 10 seconds searching...from a month ago where our chairman confirms 2 bids... we have been back since with a 3rd .....and may well come back again.

Im bored of this now.

Tranmere were 12th, 8 points behind us. I think 23 games is a pretty large sample and we played some kids in the last few games as well, but I take your point. We finished 13th, only just bottom half :D After Gus took charge we only lost 2 games to sides outside of the top 6. I think more importantly than any statistic though we were play some really excellent football which gives us confidence going into this season.

Only one written bid though, the initial one's were either verbal , or written on the bag of a fag packet. Fwiw I think Brighton will be top half, couple of signings top 7 or 8, 3 or 4 and they should make the PO's.

Me too but as you seem to want the last word.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/8220537.Town_and_Brighton_dispute_Greer_bids/

We will need a goal scorer, Greer and Lua Lua back on loan for the season if we are to make top 8

If not we will be mid table

So...as i said originally then, we say we have made several bids...we have
Your chairman says we havent, i didnt really think it was that bigger deal.
Brovado from both Chairman.

I dont expect we will know the real truth until/if a deal is done

Our Chairman later clarified and said it's only a bid if he receives it in writing. We've received one bid in writing that was turned down. What's that Lua Lua lad like by the way, where does he play?

Well i choose to believe our chairman so na na na na na. We don't like conducting our business in public but you obviously do, just shows the differing personalities of our respective chairman i presume. Regardless i'm sure you're correct with your last comment.

Hes a wide player, I thought was excellent, tricky with great pace, lacking a little bit of end product but a real prospect in my opinion, about 19 i think and at Newcastle.

He is back training there in the hope he can force his way into the first team squad, but realistically he didnt make it when they were in the championship so forcing his way in now they are a prem side seems unlikely but hes giving it a go understandably.

He will be available for loan im sure, if a championship side dosent come in for him, he will be back with us i believe, he's pretty much stated he wouldnt go anywhere else in Lg1 but i can see a champ side making a move.
Would love to buy him but way too pricey.

It wasnt us that made the so called bids public. After it was there is little point in denying it.
Could well have been his agent drumming up business..

If you look at our board no one knows anthing about signings !....its all guess work, they really do play there cards close to there chest, the only player we know we are interested in is Greer, all the other signings have come as a total shock.

So, just the one bid then...

Has he let it go yet..........the TEF holds its' breath..........

FFS greer aint going anywhere i cudnt give a fuck about about the brighton arse fuckers.

If greer was to go it wouldnt be to brighton or anyone in our league end of.

For each a road
For everyman a religion
Face everybody and rule
Fuck everything and rumble
Forget everything and remember
For everything a reason

We got the Greer
We got the Greer

No I think we were pretty consistant. We only lost 8 games all season. Just because we weren't winning every game at the start of the season didn't mean we weren't seeing consitent performances because I thought all we lacked up until November was a goalscorer that we eventually found in Austin. If only he was here in August....

Ha Brighton are interested in Theo Robinson.

There's all sorts of gull....Common, Mediterranean, Little, Black-headed, Herring, Lesser Black-backed, Iceland, Glaucous, Great Black-backed, Umer, then Kittiwakes and Skuas which are gull-like. But no seagull....other than George and Jonathan Livingston.

You forgot about the booby you numpty.

Brighton made 1 bid. Which was rejected.

As has been said before, our Board are not one of these really shoddy Boards who consider verbal bids. Yours obviously do.

Nope. We just accept verbal agreements of contracts :)

I really hope that everybody arguing about number of bids made dies of terribly accute herpes.

Really? Brighton are obviously interested and have been trying to negotiate a deal. Does it matter if one side only counts written bids and the other one counts phone calls?

Seriously, lung herpes.

Is that the Umer Gul who plays for Pakistan Reg ?

Johnathan Livingston Seagull had quite a profound effect on me as a student.

because wizard told you?

good luck, but i wouldnt base something so bold on something a 15 year old posted on an internet forum at midnight.

Quote from Wizard on North Stand Chat

"What sort of person gives their source away and gets them in trouble? Not me anyway. And I have no idea of the fee, I would reckon around 300k+ seen as they have already rejected 2 offers of 200k+. (allegedly) "
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Also this quote from another Poster who really knows his facts..not


"My guess is that due to him losing the Swindon captaincy and also Gus admitting he is in the market for another centre back, you have claimed you have inside information."

FAO Brighton fans - Nothing at all has been said in Swindon about Greer losing our captaincy. Not by the club. Not even a rumour on here.

Firstly let me say Greer leads the backline brilliantly, is a great influence on the team and provides good expereince. If Brighton do sign him they will have paid over £400k for him. This for a league 1 defender in the last year of his contract is silly money. I don't want to see him leave he is our captain and a bloody good one at that. However i trust Danny and our board 100%, if he goes, there will be a large fee and also a ready made replacement in place. Until something newsworthy on this situation materializes this is the last i have to say on the matter.

I like mosst swindon fans are bored with this one now, when/if a deal happens i will comment until then lets just wait and see

If Gus always gets his man, then why did Prutton turn you down and sign for us?

That makes your statement sound like he's a stroppy teenager. You should amend that statement to say, "What Gus wants he puts in a high enough bid for, hopes the other team accept the bid and then that player wants to move." Or, to simplify, you could say that Gus is like any other manager at any other club...

Besides you couldn't afford Paynter's wages and i'm not sure you can afford Greer's either.

Exactly. Gus always get his man? Does he fuck. Listen to some of these idiots.

So to conclude: Gordon Greer is still Swindon Captain and will be playing for us again this season.

Glad we've got that cleared up.

Prutton had a choice between 2 clubs and chose the 1 with the better set up for promotion, for these exact reasons Greer will remain captain and centre half for Swindon next season.

How do you know Gus "normally" gets his man? Do you know about every offer that is made??

Clubs put in bids for players/offer contracts all time that fans never hear about.

If gus gets what he wants then how come we got prutton.

 :cunt:

are you old enough to drink or are you talking about orange squash?

Ouch i've been bitten.

And if Gus normally gets what he wants how come he's managing Brighton.

No doubt a life long ambition when he was growing up on the streets of Montevideo or wherever then. Much like the whole Fabregas / Barcelona episode perhaps.

Maybe he wants man love.

Greer is going nowhere. The bum boys are just clutching at straws.

Won't be seeing you again then?

Cherio  :cunt:

No-one has said hes not for sale.

What has been said is that the club dont want to sell him, which is different and more accurate as virtually every footballer on the planet is for sale at the right price.

I don't know what's worse:

The fact that Brighton fans are posting on here bragging that they've bid for one of our players or the fact that loads of people have risen to the bait.

Or that flammableBen's post was spot on.

I've not really read the thead, is everyone bickering about the size of their internet penis again?

The size of their internet herpes

Ooh, that sounds nasty. I'll keep out.

Frankly anyone who is getting their internet penis out in front of a Brighton fan is a very brave man unless they want it noshed off.

this thread is giving me violent urges.it's fucking tedious

Would you like me to chuck in a few puns ?

beats the rest of the tripe in this thread for sure

This is better than threads about 3/4 length tousers and fashion.   :gay:

JESUS!!!...you lot could pick up far far far far better than gordon greer up here....he was absolutely hopeless at kilmarnock

Jesus isn't our manager though

i thought he was our new midfielder

Just to drag it up again, they haven't half gotten out of control on their forum over this. Just had a quick peek and they're all talking of him being stripped of his captaincy and practically openly admitting he wants to go to Brighton... OK then...  ::)

Yep, I'm glad we haven't gone overboard on this forum and created a 30 page thread on the subject.

This is true.

But we havnt resorted to making things up to convince ourselves we're the manacherster United of the south coast eaither.

Exactly. I feel mightily smug and rather pleased with our wonderfully restrained reaction to aggressive disk waving, childish posturing and speculation.

Disk waving?

Anyway I dont see whats wrong with a petty arguement with fans of another club, especially when many of them seem to be deluded about their clubs standing in the grand scheme of things.

This type of thing should be actively encouraged.

More bickering
More pointless arguements
More fans on other clubs on here to wind us up / give a more reasoned point of view
Less threads about sandwiches and shorts

"My floppy is bigger than yours!"

Disk waving... it's like being able to take your e-penis into the real world and waving it about a bit. I guess. :D

He's our player though. What is wrong with a thread about OUR captain?

Exactly, especially when the TEF sponsor him, and the fans, via donations to the Red Army Fund, bought him here in the first place.

Nothing wrong with a thread about our player, but the number of regular posters getting involved in a "how many bids has your chairman counted" competition with a few 10 year old kids from Brighton in hysterics was, I thought, a bit over the top.

No smoke without fire, thats what i say.

Anyway, he was a disaster last season. He gave away 14 penalties. Got sent off 3 times including that crucial 2nd leg play off which nearly cost us the match.

On top of that his recurring hamstring injury is something we could really do without, that really unsettled the team last year. As did his constant fights with Dougie and Lucas. BTW did he settle out of court in the end for knocking that disabled lad out? He wont be missed.

I believe the current "bidwatch" situation is as follows

1.8648 bids (I count verbal offers as 0.4324 of a written bid)

FACT FACT FACT FACT

I thought it was only 12? Or are you counting cup competitions?

Yes, we really struggled. It says a lot when your club captain is constantly either injured or suspended. I guess that's why we failed to push for automatic promotion. As for the unrest with other players, I think that spat he had with Danny Wilson in front of us all after Charlton away in the play offs showed how much of a controversial character he can be.

I think the club sorted it out to keep it out of the press.

I'm guessing one of the mods got rid of the latest 'inside info' thread........good work!

Yep, I did. It stank of trying to get our backs up and poor rumour mongery. It also didn't need it's own thread.

what is the incident about knocking a disabled fan out?

You noticed then that the fellas last post on here was about Cox going to Sheff United in Jan 09.  Not the best source.

Pretty much what I said to him in the thread, nice one

i just made some shit up to see how far it would go. it made their forum so it went quite well i thought  :)

Haha, that was someone making shit up to watch Shighton bite. :)


I've told him he can repost in this thread, because i'm not a total nazi, but i really hated the negative undertones of his previous post.

To be honest looking at previous posts by him where he's tried to claim inside info it just looked like attention seeking to me.

I don't see the problem myself. Rumours get posted all the time, 99% of them are bollocks despite being from inside sauces (sic).

Didn't need it own thread though.

Good work, I see some of the fucking planks fell for it!

Brighton have got a friendly against Burgess Hill Town today. I might not bother to wander down to watch it though.

According to them Greer will be playing in that friendly, so maybe pop down and say goodbye to him?

Stephen Saunders from motherwell would be a great replacement for greer...

but i'll tell you what Milan Musin from our squad on loan would be a revelation down there,we stole the lad under the noses on milan,he has a cracking left foot,tall,good in the air,excellent passer,composed and lightning quick.....and loves a crunching tackle as well.
If we get sol i cant see him featuring much this season as young josh thompson did well at tail end last year.

We don't need to replace Greer as he's not left. Thanks all the same!

he has now

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/8265811.BREAKING_EXCLUSIVE_NEWS__Fee_agreed_for_Greer_Brighton_switch/

Bollocks! We're going to miss him.

Bad business in my eyes :/

He is shit anyway  :cunt:

I thought we were supposedly building a side to push on for championship football - how does selling your Captain to a rival enable you to do this?

I'm hoping we are going to spend all of the £500k we've now received for players.

Cunts.

Not that worried to be honest and was left wanting at times last season although he had some great performances aswell,I have faith in danny to find a suitable replacement.

Clearly wanted to leave. No ambition. Good riddance.

I seriously hope Fitton/Wilson have someone else lined up, because I'm really fucking pissed off about this and just can't understand why we'd sell our captain to a divisional rival.

Well fuck me backwards. I really did not think we would let him go.

Doesn't make sense from a footballing ability point of view, nor from a leadership point of view.

So that only leaves it being a financial descision - either we were desperate for money or we didn't want to see him go for free, OR, he wanted to go OR something has goneon behind the scenes.

I'm usually wrong, but that is the only thing tht makes sense to me. Either way its pissed me off.

Slate me away, but Morrison isn't ready to take the mantle yet.

Prepare for the invasion of the bum bandits...

I can only assume we've got another CB lined up.

I can't believe it either, especially to a club in the same division and, arguably a side worse than us at the moment. £250,000 sounds as if they've mugged us off in these negotiations, and i just pray that the money is made available to Wilson to utilise.

I hope he isn't expecting Morrison to fill his gap. bollocks.

I can only assume that Wilson thinks he is, especially in view of his earlier comments.

Maybe Wilson was mega-pissed off at him getting sent off at Charlton? When the story first broke it was Fitton saying 'no deal at any price' but it was Wilson who was pretty much saying 'come back and make us a better offer'

I wonder how many more quotes I can get carried over to their forum...

He's clearly threatened by the young, talented pair of Cuthbert and Morrison. One big pay day before he ends up at Shrewsbury or something like that. I'll enjoy watching Austin leaving him on his arse... although that'd mean actually going to The Withdean... urgh.

Well he's wrong if he does think that.

I'll stand by that and you can all laugh and point if I'm proved wrong.

If he doesn't want to play for us it gives us an opportunity to spend the money on a player who does on say a 3 year deal

Lecs at the back with cuthbert. Dougie to take the captaincy.

Well we don't know if he doesn't want to play for us. Matey boys "inser info" yesterday said he wanted to stay but we accepted the fee anyway. Could be bollards of course.

Huge huge step backwards.

Wilson has said we won't have any new players coming in any time soon.

We now need a captain a leader a rock with experience.

Huge mistakes, fucking livid - thought for once we were going to be a football club and show some balls and tell them to fuck off.

This is why STFC will never progress

Pissed off would be an understatement.

Cunt cunt cunt cunt.

As it stands we are a worse team than last year. Much worse!!

Who next Cuthbert? Douglas - and for fuck sake stop letting our decent fucking players get into the last year of their cunting bastard contract.

Don't even joke about that being our centre back 2!

Totally agree with Dave. But thats the price of failure at Wemblet isn't it.

Hahaha, I am fucking livid. Deary me.

FFS! Agree with Dave on this (that's how bad it is).

Apparently he decided to leave after some cunt on a forum started a rumour about him punching a disabled lad.

First time I have been properly pissed off with Wilson and Fitton's transfer dealings.

As others have said, I can only assume that Greer wanted to leave. If the fee is only 250k, I can't even hang on to the notion that they have paid over the odds for him.

It does look from Danny's comments about Morrison, as if he will for the CB partnership with Cuthbert with Lecsi as cover, although I can't really see us starting the season with only 3 Centre Backs and hope they will bring someone else in.

Just remember the good times, like fulfilling most football fans dreams by kicking Deon Burton square in his muggy cuntish chest.


P.s I hope Wilson has summat up his sleeve, or we got a fucking ridiculous fee for him.

Fuck about.

250k are you fucking shitting me? Is that it?

A decent play off push like last season probably brings in more cash than that.

This is worse than the time they appointed Malpas.

That was the same fee I got told last night :hmmm:

Anger doesn't describe my feelings. I think it's more where he's gone than who has gone. I believe we can live without him or replace him and as I said earlier in the thread, I consider anything over £200k for a 29 year old centre half with 1 year left good business.

Maybe Lex or Morrison will step up, or maybe we've got a shit hot loan lined up? I'm not worried too much as Wilson et al know more than us, I'm just angry at him going to Shighton and the egg it's left on mine and many others faces. Dented pride. :)

Yeah, everybody loves a smug bastard. Please fuck off

:D :D :D :D :D

He must've wanted to leave or they've offered a very good package to him.  I'm sure financial security must start to play on a football player's mind as you approach 30.  

I can't believe we're actually selling him unless something has gone on. It doesn't make sense. And as others have said, the thought of Cuthbert and JFL or Cuthbert and Morrison as the first choice pairing is not exactly inspiring. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I think we need somebody else in now, preferably with a fair bit of experience.

I have to say i'm not as disappointed as I thought i'd be if Greer left, the spat with Wilson sealed his fate imo and 250k is a decent price for him.  As long as we bring in a similiar replacement with some pace which Greer had none of then i'll be happy.

I'm also glad it's Greer and not Cuthbert we've sold.

What?!

Oh well, could be worse. Could have to go into work this afternoon just to set some tests off.

Oh, wait...

Am absolutely fucking livid about this. All joking aside I think this sends out a massively worrying marker for our (lack of) ambition this year. The way I see it either the board don't believe they can invest in us enough to push on into the Championship or we can't compete on wages with Brighton. Whichever it is, I am worried.

We've made a huge profit on player transfers in the past 12 months which is a bit galling really. You want some of the 32000 to come more regularly then you have to be seen to be investing what you recoup in transfer fees surely? You won't put bums on seats selling your best players. It's so fucking blinkered.

Also, if other clubs can get six or seven players in before the start pre-season why can't we?? Have we learnt anything from Theo Cunting Robinson last year?

Alleged. The only people I've seen talk about this are the gays.

Yes, we had a lucky escape.

I didn't see Greer as much as others on here but I don't think he is half the CB that Cuthbert is. His constant climbing on opposition forwards did my box in. Lets not panic too much, perhaps Danny has an ace up his sleeve.

So who do people reckon will be the new captain? surely has to be Douglas.

or Lucas?

I would have thought so.

What the fucks gone on...

Swindon Till I Die.

Wilson has nothing up his sleeve. He's said as much.

Cuthbert is the better player, sure but isn't a lead. We saw just how badly we need one before and after Williams, Vincent and Greer.

All our centr backs are 23 and under.

Gordon Greer is a fuckin' queer,
he left us to take it up the rear.
Gordon Greer, this is what we sing,
Brighton fans'll smash your back doors in.

Your back doors in, your back doors in.
Brighton fans'll smash your back doors in.

teehee

Agree with this.

Smashing Brighton fans back doors in? They'll enjoy that...

You've misread my song.

Have indeed, my bad  ::)

Pissed off.

But 250,000 for a 29 year old league 1 centre back is paying well over the odds.

Hopefully we can get Cuthbert and Lescinel tied down on longer contracts.

Douglas was like a second captain last season, and Im sure he'll be brilliant in that role.

This is exactly my feelings. Shame we just didn't get rid of him a week or so ago then we could've signed Mullins to play at centre half.

Oh well, I've thrown enough stuff now. They've got their man and there's clearly something we don't know about that's contributed to this. Maybe rumours of a bust-up are true and Wilson wanted rid? Whatever, we'll manage to replace him in some capacity.

There's also the fact the Adver is the only place talking of it. And Greer has to agree terms and we know Brighton can't match our wages.

If they are going to pay £250k then they will at least match what he is on now.

And, with there super duper new ground they must have some money about them..

I know it's also conspiracy theories but there must be something wrong. GG won the fans over and was a clear leader on the pitch.  His organisation of the team was 2nd to none.

This is what worries me because although we have decent defenders none of them have the leadership skills that GG had. At times you could see GG shouting at players to get into position & communicating with players to give them a lift.

At times GG pissed me off with stupid freekicks he gave away in dangerous positions which did cost at certain points in a game.

This has lead me to believe that either there is a huge rift at the club and GG has fallen out of favour or GG wanted to move on.  Maybe family reasons who knows?  One things for sure there will be 2 stories the clubs & the players we will never know why he truly left.

Whoever and if the club replace him we need that leadership quality that GG possessed because that's what made him stand out on the pitch over the others.

Can not believe this is true. Bad decision!!!!!!!

Brighton will be crowing over this but we will finish above them.

Lucas for captain.

He was fucked off so quick, you must be one of the only people to see that post! Thought i got there in time. :D

When I saw the headline about Morrison's time earlier today, I wondered if Greer actually was going.

One good thing apart from the money, he misses his first game for Brighton!

Sorry Barry, I'm on a post rage rampage today. Raaaaahhhhhhh!

Feel free to delete my reply (and this one just to tidy up the trail) if you'd like to delete all memories of it.

Meh. As long as we sign a decent enough replacement I'm not too bothered. He was very sloppy towards the end of the season, isn't getting any younger and has a dodgy injury past.

Would have liked another 100k though

hmmmm I think a 'big signing' is required up front now and a decent replacement for Greer bought in as this is likely to really piss off alot of fans ....... I know I am, utterly bizarre bit of business

He has gone very cheaply, his form did tail off near the end of the season, we will definitely miss his experience.

Got rid of the quote. No need to get rid of quote above; I like the fact we're discussing something no one saw. It's makes us seem like members of some sort of elite insiders club. 8)

God they're getting in a right old tizz that their posts are being deleted.

Good. Self-righteous mockney wannabe cunts.

There has to be more to this story. It is good money for someone in the last year of their contract and he is not good enough for the bottom half of the Champ, which is the calibre of player we have been trying to sign, but selling him without a replacement in the pipeline is a mistake in my book unless the club's hand was forced in some way.

He was a very good leader at this level and leaves us with no experienced centre back. I can only assume, as others have said, that we have a replacement lined up because anyone who thinks Morrison or Lex can step in and replace what Greer gave us last season needs a reality check. They're both so naive defensively, which is understandable as they're inexperienced.

We now must bring in an experienced top end L1/bottom half Champ CB as a priority. The captaincy thing doesn't worry me at all as Dougie was more or less the skipper last year anyway, but we need someone to lead the line, and we have all seen at Wembley how unconvincing LJF can be without the experienced head along side him. Cuthbert is immense and would be a bigger loss, but he is not yet good enough/experienced enough to carry the unpredictable LJF or Morrison.

Financially good business when you can get Cuthbert for 100k. We need an experienced head back there though, hope there is something lined up. Also does nothing to promote the team as moving forward when you sell your captain. Hope some new faces are seen soon as currently our squad is weaker than the one that ended last season. Good luck to Greer, always gave his most here. Hope he's crying on the sidelines when we destroy them aug 7th

You watch, we'll be fired up and smash Brighton first game.

Send them home with egg all over their not so smug faces.

£250k for a 29yo in his last year of his contract is not 'very cheap' but admit it looks like a better deal for Brighton than us (in a purely financial way).

the age thing with a CB is a bit irrelevant is it not? As a CB he is probably at his peak, and would expect to be at his best for the next three or four years.

Not sure it's irrelevant, as I've previously said he's probably starting to think about securing the best deal as he's not going to be signing too many more contracts before he hangs up his boots.

Ok deep breath. Now i have digested the news. I think im more disappointed that we've sold him to a rival league 1 club more than the fact we have sold him.

Cold facts are gordy was a great leader, organiser and has great experience of this level. He was also slow on the turn and prone to giving away late free kicks in and around the box. Of course id like to have seen him here next year but let's just be thankful it was Greer who got sold and not Cuthbert. I don't really care why he's gone, whatever reason it is it's already time to move on.

Bring in an experienced centre back and our squad is still shaping up well. Please don't over react we have alot of experience in our team namely; Lucas, Rose, Douglas, Manks, JP, Prutton. Danny has my full backing. Fitton is a ledge and has my full backing. There is life after greer. Bye Bye Gordy thanks for your efforts....watch your bum bum in your new pastures  :bye:

All the people on here that argued with the Albion fans probably feel a bit foolish. Let them have their fun, wait until we beat them on the pitch, then we'll have the last laugh! Muhahahah

Great post. I would be in a murderous mood if it was Cuthbert. I also think i'm more fucked off it's Brighton, than actually losing Greer.

I'm trying to focus on his shortfalls to make it easier to cope with, like his oil tanker turning circle, no pace, climbing on strikers and pointless fouls around the box. That said, he was a great leader and was great with the ball on the floor, which is the hardest thing to replace in a centre half in my mind. Very much out of the Ricardo Carvalho mould of player.

Greer today, gone on Monday.

One thing i will criticise Fitton and the board for is the fact that they don't seem to tie players up to longer contracts quick enough, They always leave it too late.

Why haven't they sat down with Cuthbert, Douglas, Lucas etc? Same mistake made with Paynter last summer they should have tied him down to a 2 or 3 year contract had they done it then there was a good chance he would have signed.

Are they going to leave it until the end of the year or January to sit down with the likes of Cuthbert and risk losing him and the others for nothing next summer? Or get a tribunal fee for Cuthbert and we all know how crap tribunal fee's are.

I wouldn't be too quick to blame Fitton. I think that some players perform better knowing they have to work for their money, others need security. Obviously its down to the individual player, but you want people to perform as best they can and if someone needs a kick up the backside by saying hang on a sec, we're not gonna sign you up next season, then so be it.

A final worry for me is that Poyet and Wilson are both operating in the same market. Poyets obviously assessed the available free transfers and decided a bid for Greer was the best option ahead of any freebies.  Wilson may have an advantage thanks to many years of experience but it does worry me that they had to resort to buying one of our players as they deemed that there was no one suitable for what they wanted, and now that same type of player is what we need so we need to try and pull something out of the bag.

That's total bollocks. We only signed Greer last season. He'd just come out of a bad injury, If we'd gave him a 3 year contract and he was shit or broken, they'd be absolute outrage. The same is true of Paynter in that before last season he was replaceable and now of course looks great, but hindsight makes us all intelligent.

With regard to current players, how do you know that we're not currently sat down with Cuthbert, Dougie, Lucas etc? We could well be and the result of sitting down with Greer might have been him saying he won't decide until the end of the season, therefore selling him is the right course of action in my eyes. The trouble is we don't know.

Splendid. Are we a clique now then?

But we have proven time and again there are good players, particularly north of the border, that can be sucured cheaply. Brighton are fans of the marquee, flash signing where as DW is shrewder, and with the links we have in place tend to pick up good players on the cheap

This sounds like a really queer deal.

only one thing you'll criticise them about? makes a change.

disappointed to see him leave and incredibly surprised but i'll take £250k.

Ifils coming back :D

Its disappointing - even more so for him if Brighton do somehow manage to get out of this division as he'll be surplus to requirements in the Championship!

Greer is a good league one defender, nothing more, nothing less and I am confident he can be replaced - Perhaps by someone who doesn't give away as many silly fouls and has a bit of pace. (Trying to find positives)

I really don't know what to make of this, it seems a low fee to sell your captain for and while Greer was a great leader, I'm not sure he was in the top 5 players I'd want to keep but still, it's the message this sends out. Weird.

Makes you wonder if there was anything in the rumours about him and Cuthbert falling out.

That'll make a change from sperm then.

Very odd, £250,000 is quite a lot for a 29 year old league 1 centre back, but he was our captain and a great leader so worth more than that to us. There must be more to him leaving than meets the eye.

We need to replace him with someone of similar experience, because I wouldn't be too happy with Morrison or LJF as first choice alongside Cuthbert.

We'll def miss his experience and leadership and defending abiity, this showed at Wembley. However, we will NOT miss the lack of pace, silly free kicks, hot n cold form and the bickering. I think a GG replacement should now be forefront in DW/AF's mind. Ive no doubt in Lucas/Dougie's ability  to lead the team its just we need some old head experience at the back.

I don't like to criticize Town players here unless they're really no use to us even as squad members.  GG offered crucially organisational skills at the back.

I had however grown worried that his personal contribution was leaving us increasingly vulnerable.  He was useless against pace and often gave away dangerous free kicks by being a fraction slow. 

His sending off at the Valley came from an initially good tackle executed just too slowly and without thought for how it would end up.   A cringeworthy performance for a captain at home to Rovers last year - you can't boo your own captain mid match for being slow but I can say now that it was time to say thank you and pocket some cash.

Although Lecs and Morrison have potential, they would have to improve to satisfactorily partner Cuthbert.  I would like a replacement signing too, but at least Sean and Lecs can improve - GG won't be getting any pacier and was a Donny reserve before he came here, so thanks GG and adios.

Christ, how many 'silly' free kicks did Greer give away? 1,000 how many led to goals.

He leaves a huge gap and personally I think it will take more than 250k to fill it.

Greer, Sheehan, Ferry, Ward and Paynter - 5 from our regular XI from last season.

Well...its a loss certainly, but who would want to hold on to someone who didn't want to be there?  If he wanted to go, he wanted to go, and so he should.  £250,000 profit from one year's (pretty good) service.  Not too bad.  There have been rumours of possible replacements - an Arsenal loanee, deMerit (we should be so lucky), and we don't know who else from Man C, Celtic or Liverpool, so, whilst glad that Greer did us proud for most of last season, I don't feel downhearted by this.......and I still don't see Brighton as a real threat.

Loans players from the big clubs will all be young and fill the gap

Also, whilst I'm ranting - he was a broken down injury prone soon to be out of a job defender before Wilson took him on loan.

Wilson gave him a 2 year deal, got him fit, gave him games, made him the captian and turned his career around and this is the thanks he get.

bitter Dave ?

Thats football today, no loyalty .... Greer has probably been given a two year contract better than we could offer.

Good luck sir you served us well, thanks and bloody good luck to you.

Bitter, hell yeah.

I know officially hate Brighton more than Oxford. Worst fans ever...

I wonder whether the adver have just decided to make this whole thing up off the back of a weak source or something? It's not like they've had much knowledge for a couple of years... It's also strange that it's not been 'officially' reported yet. :clutches at straws: :)

EDIT: I agree Dave, my hatred for those conceited cunts has grown with every passing year.

We're going to lose to cunting Bangladesh in the Cricket as well, my day is being comprehensively ruined.

I'm sticking with Barry's idea.

I'm just trying to convince myself this is more rumour than fact. Afterall big papers do it all the time.

It has to be a source not within the club, because otherwise it'd be openly attributed to someone. If we had accepted a bid who would know? Fitton would, but who else? Certainly not some dogs body because only the big guns would be working if at all.

Greer would know, but sometime after the fact. I dunno, I'm always a suspicious cunt. :D

Oh, it was a "BREAKING EXCLUSIVE NEWS:" They've only used exclusive once before and it was on Paynter's leaving with Fitton giving the adver the facts. 

Not really too bothered if he leaves

Hes good against the slower defenders in the league as he has good positional play.

However time and time again he always did less well against the quicker strikers in our league who tended to play off his shoulder. 

JFL is more then adequate cover and once JFL and Cuthbert play a number of games together, im sure they will do fine.

Im more then confident Wilson could spend half of the £250,000 and get a better replacement anyway.  Also the remainder could be put towards buying caddis and ferry

Perhaps Celtic have asked for 250k for ferry and caddis?

I'm not angry at all about this. We made a £250k profit in 12 months on someone who was supposedly shit and crippled. Overall he was a good player and a good captain but he had some major failings hence why he'sin the 3rd Div.
I don't know what the reason for his departure is and I couldn't give a shit. I also couldn't give a shit if he signs for the bum boys - rather him than me and I hope he remembers to put his soap on a rope and never to pick up a dropped fiver.
Its onwards and upwards now. I'm more than confident that Wilson will get a replacement. Its early days yet in the transfer market but I am extremely confident that by the time the season starts we'll have quality players thruoghout the team and we'll be top 6 again. .  

wycome away he was dreadfull, he had an argument with another town player at half time, cant remember who it was now, anyway IMO he has been shit ever since :smugfu:

 If he doesn't want to play for Swindon then to hell with him. No point in keeping people here if they're not committed to the cause (eg Aljofree).

Meh.....I'll get over it. He was good, but i'd be more fucked off if Cuthbert left.

Next!

If I was asked would you swap Greer for Ferry, my answer would be yes, so if the above were true - and we'd get Caddis as well, i'd be getting them the cash before they change their mind.

This would be too good to be true, but fuck me that'd be awesome

£250,000 is decent ish money but he was different class last season so it aint enough.pretty gutted to be honest,and he must have been offered better terms than here.

that's our top goalscorer, and best captain is 20 years gone already.any club with the slightest of sense will snap up cuthbert

To be fair, Doncaster fans said he was a good player.

For instance Barry Corr is of a simmilar ability to Greer, but we werent lucky enough to have an injury free season of him.

If that was the deal on the table, I wound have dived into the bank and paid Celtic 250k.

If Celtic wanted 250k then we wouldnt need to sell Greer to get the 250k.

Not that it matters, its all hypothetical.

There's just no way (in my mind) that we'd have done business unless Greer wanted a move. People leave jobs, that's not just football, that's life!

i think you are right.
a better contract might have kept him though

Feels like our squad starting to fall apart now after last seasons great finish typical town. :cry:

Thinking about it maybe after the bust up with Cuthbert and the play-off red Wilson had second thoughts about him, or even stripped him off the captaincy and he got in a strop. Maybe Wilson told him he wasn't a guarenteed starter this season.
There's a lot of guess work going on but I do maintain both the board and Wilson need to come out and explain this decision and I don't mean with some crappy 'it was good business' excuse, this needs to be a proper explanation and they need to reaffirm the targets for this season.

Of which we owned just 1.

2.

He had a bust up with Cuthbert?

Maybe we offered an extension, and he turned it down. Nobody knows.

Ahem. Of which we owned just 2.

Yeah the Wycombe game they had a right slanging match as they were leaving the pitch at half time, in the end Cuthbert had to just walk away.

nope.i should have had ? at the end of the sentence

cant wait for Brighton to come down first game of the season so we can pick them off all the way back to the station.

what, for a bum?

So who's coming in to replace him then?

I'd fancy DeMerrit if possible, defo fits the bill but probably out of reach wages wise. Any other suggestions? Anyone knocking about in the SPL could be tempted?

Alex Bruce is on the list at Ipswich, but again probably out of reach in terms of wages. Liam Chilvers is available on a free from PNE and is said to be interesting Charlton. Sam Sodje is available on a free according to the PFA, Wayne Thomas has been released from Soton.

There are defo suitable candidates out there, and a little bit of looking has reassured me we can get a player of similar calibre for free or a nominal fee, allowing the 250000 to be put towards the asking price for ferry and caddis.

Maybe we won't replace him, Wilson's comments about Morrison today seem to suggest he might stick with him and Lescinel to fight it out to partner Cuthbert? I am hoping that isn't the case though and we bring in an experienced centre back.

Callum Davenport. No reason why just felt like saying it.

Surely to God we're replacing him? Morrison is at best a player with a bright future but currently not good enough to be first choice, and LJF just is not dependable enough if we want to get anywhere near replicating last season.

And even if they're good enough, surely DW will want four CBs? one injured medium term and your stuffed if you only have 3.

I'll be shocked and worried in equal measure if do not move to replace him

Didn't he have half a leg cut off though?

Is Caddis a CB?

According to Wilson he can play at CB, but at 5'7" I'd guess probably not.

RB/RM. It was once said he can play anywhere along the back four but at 5'7" I'd be more than a little perturbed if that was the long term fix

See this annoys me.Lescinel was a bit un reliable at left back but was more than good enough enough at centre back.Some of our best defensive performances came with him at the back.

He had a horrible year of the pitch in his first full season in England last season and did more than a good enough job. As a centre back he is still young and is only going to improve.

Im sorry to annoy you DRS. I personally feel he has a good future with us and as his experience grows he could go on to become a very good CB but in my opinion he's still a little raw and we now massively lack experience at CB.

I would not want to rely on Morrison or LJF playing 50 games next season

Yeah but Vincent was 5'7" or so and was a damn good CB.

Agreed. 23 is still an age where the player is learning and developing, and LJF has shown enough quality at CB for me, for him to stake a claim for a starting berth week in week out. Then there's Morrison - A player who excelled whilst on loan at Saaarfend, and has put in a good shift when he's played here as well.

I'd rather have the trio of CB's we have now, to the ones that got us relegated a few years back, that's for sure!

You don't annoy me but the post did :)

I think we all would - HOWEVER, the main failing in that defence was the age and lack of leader.

Whilst, we have better (much better) CBs we still lack the leader and its a very young trio. All 23 and under?

Cuthbert can step up as leader.

Greer's departure doesn't kill any optimism I have.

It's not ideal, I grant you, but he was no Colin Calderwood or Shaun Taylor :)

agreed

Re Vincent: He was 5'11, so not really giving a great deal away to the majority of strikers.

Re: LJF. As stated he's 23 and just finished his first season in England. For this reason, and for the fact that 3 CBs isn't enough, I'd like us to bring in an experienced CB to lead the line and oversee the development of the young trio we currently have.

if he's still here ;)

I'd like to think so too. But he does look a bit like O'Hanlon, and that doesn't bode well...... ;D

Alex bruce would be quality in our division sign him up. :)

That's exactly what I thought! :D

Caddis can't play centre half by the way but can play at both fullback positions and on both wings.

It's a shame Vincent has already signed elsewhere, as i certainly wouldn't have mind seeing him back here, even if he was a bit part player. Plus he can play anywhere along the backline.
Ho hum...

Great minds, Barry! Let's hope he doesn't become captain....I'd soon start to worry otherwise...Hah!

I love the odd little green text with a red [X] at the bottom of the page

Yeah i didn't have a clue what that was about (Well...what it was for), so i clicked 'Cunt' all the same...

I totally disagree, getting rid of your most experience defender is very worrying, didn't we leak enough last year.

It has every probabilty we will start the season with a back four with the average age of 21/22!

Rose and Manks are both 27 aren't they?

Cant see Manks starting, Darby hopefully will sign, Morrison in the middle (maybe), forgot about Rose to be truthful. There is not a lot of inexpereince there.

I liked Kevin at the beginning of the season, but he became a liability near the end, especially at Wembley.

one bad game all season, ok the most important one - but that was it.

At the moment its him or Nathan Thompson.

Plenty of ambition, was always going to happen, some of you guys must just wander around with blinkers on.

And for 250k its an absolute steel.

We lost our captain, now have a new one it seems.

He's class.Our loss-Your gain for sure

We shall see, some of us remember Tommy "wasted a year at Oxford" Mooney or Sean "Franchise is a bigger club" O'Hanlon. The grass isn't always greener (or more pink in your case)

I woldn't be too cocky. We''ll both know by X Mas who had the better of the deal. On the one hand you've got an inspirational leader who can organise the defence and is a Braveheart defender. On the other you've got someone the other players don't like, struggles badly against pace and plays crap in some of the real big games.
Lets both reserve judgement.

I fail to see how it was always going to happen?

I generally didnt know Greer was an unambitions, ungrateful stupid cunt this time last week.

Falmer For All and Brighton fans - for the money you've paid, you have a fucking good signing.

why weren't the stories of his dislike by the squad -fallouts etc told until today?

Bits about arguments with Cuthbert have been mentioned before, if I recall.

We havent got any pace at the back now, so no change there. but we need an organiser, he will do that.
We let in so many last season he can only be an improvement on what we have

As for wages...i doubt we are throwing that much cash around...if that was the case Prutton would have signed rather than going to you, so i see it that he purely fancies a new challenge.

I'm not sure on why the stories of unrest are coming out today or if they're true but there is defo a clique developing with Prutton joining Lucas and Dougie, and possible Greer didn't like it? who know's, but it's done now. Let's focus on finding a better replacement and improving other areas of the sqaud, and then like someone else said, we'll know in six months whether he was right to leave or not, but I feel he didn't have much choice in the matter.

I remember feeling equally pissed of when we lost our skipper to Norwich a month ago. However when a side from the championship comes in it was always on the cards. So bit more of a pill to swallow i know when its a side in the same league.

yeah alright.dont rub it in you cunt

Apologies

I think its friction rather than fall out. Weve followed a policy of hiring strong headed players leaders after the debacle under Malpas. Weve had a bit of a clash of the titans in terms of personalities. Big name players for League 1.

The crucial thing was he was going to walk away for free next summer, and here is a cash bid on the table.  

Reality is, that all players have a price...this move is a good deal for us as 250K is a fair wedge for an aging Div 3 centre half, with a dodgy injury record, and no doubt good for GG, increasing his wage and a 3 year contract to see out his time.

Brighton have previous in this dept, as they persuaded Ray McHale to sign for them by waving some $ in front of his face...he played 8 or 9 games for them.

Time will tell on this one I suppose. He definately tailed off towards the end of the season. The own goal, the red card, and lots of rash challenges in dangerous positions. Would be far more worried if they had bought Cuthbert, saying that we'll miss his organisation and commitment.

i dont think there was-is any friction.i think it's purely down to money

missed him as a leader for sure at wembley, but replaceable and 250k for 29 year old is reasonable...as long as we get an equivalent in terms of leadership with more pace I'm not overly concerned

Having just read through the last 10 pages or so, sounds like a fairly measured response to the loss of a solid player from last season.  I'm genuinely sorry to see him go, and think he could do quite well for Brighton.  But I also think they've overpaid.  I'm very grateful to GG for his contribution last year, but I'm not cutting my wrists for several reasons.

• He's replaceable.  Danny's track record in the transfer market speaks for itself, so we're in a very different situation to the one we'd have been in were Malpas still manager.  Greer is not unique and I'm confident we'll be able to fill his boots.
• It's July 10th, not August 10th.  Pre-season training has barely started, so plenty of time to reassess and get someone in if we think it necessary.
• We're £250k better off than we were this time yesterday.  Money doesn't disappear in to the ether the way it used to when Diamandis was 'in charge'.
• There's no denying that his form dipped at the end of last season.  He's good, but has his weaknesses.

We'll live.

Agree with the above wholeheartdly

One of the lads I go to matches with, Is actually over the moon he's going/gone, never has agood word to say about him. Can't say I agree but each to their own.

Doesn't jonny have a dislike of GG? I know someone on here was always quite vocal.

The poster who said Amankwaah shouldn't be starting next seassn, why exactly?

I thought he was shite in 08/09 and wouldn't have cared if he left last summer but he was superb throughout last season, linked up very well with JP and it was harsh on him losing his place to Darby. Like most of the side, he was poor at Wembley, but he is easily good enough for a first team place next season. Much improved.

As for Greer, he had his flaws but he was a leader. £250k is a fair price, seeing as I highly doubt he would cope in the Championship - he would get ripped apart by the quicker strikers. It's just dissapointing he has joined fucking Brighton, a sideways step and a lack of ambition on his behalf. Reading some of their views on other forums, I can't stand some of the tossers, although I can understand why they are taking the piss. I think some of them who reckon they are nailed on for a top 6 finish after this signing may get a bit of a surprise if they don't add a few other players. Swindon fans know very well that Brezovan is not a goalkeeper who inspires confidence.

I hope we smash them on the opening day.

Did Greer ever play in front of Brez? I wonder if he'd also be as good with an uncommunicative and hesitant keeper behind him?

Brighton fan here. In all honesty I was gonna come on here and ask how you guys felt about losing your captain and whether we'd got a bargain or you had offloaded a has been...

...but just been reading all the ignorant homophobic comments here makes me wonder if I'd stumbled on a Millwall board by mistake. Jesus wept, this is the 21st century. You don't refer to Bradford as a town full of pakis so why all the bigotry to my town?

FWIW, if I were you I'd be fuming. It's obvious that Albion have been playing mind games to unsettle the bloke and put a bit of unrest between him and the board/management. Your chairman seems to have got wind of this game early on with some of his comments. As for the fee, well, that's a double whammy considering he's your captain. On the plus side though you beat us to Prutton and I just know that he will do well for you. It's obvious that Wilson was part of the attraction there - and who wouldn't want to play under DW? He's very well respected as an ex-player and as a manager down in these parts.

I'd rate your chances of promotion as around about the same as ours at the moment. We've got a lot of unknown quantities in our 2 Argentinians, Kishishev, a very raw striker in Barnes and the promise of a big name striker to come so there's loads of potential but whether that's realised or not remains to be seen. 

Good luck with next season and I hope you get to play at our new stadium which we're all very proud of down this way.

fuck off you bum raider,queer cunt,etc,etc.
how dare you say paki you racist bastard

Oh my aching sides.

Any chance of a reasonable discussion on Greer anyone?

I think Greer has been discussed far beyond what anybody can take, hence the willingness to jump at an opportunity for cheap shots at Brighton fans. Oh, that and the fact that everybody gets abuse on here, whether they are Brighton, Oxford or Swindon.

greer is hated by all the swindon players,he's a crock,past it,rubbish,a liability.
brighton fans are all cunts,faggots,benders,arse bandits....yeah

Bless... Are you seriously that fucking precious? It's people like you that have made banter a dying art. It's a bit of fun sweet heart, like you saying we have six fingers...  ::)


We were fuming, many probably still are, but some have also weighed it up and heard some "things", that mean people like me are fine with it now. He's a good player and a good leader and a struggling team like yourselves will probably do well with him. ;)

After what I've learned today, your "mind games" had no affect and that's a fact. It's nice to think they did, but that was only amongst us fans who were angered by the persistence.


I don't think you've got as good a chance as us, but if all goes well and Gus is good as you all believe him to be, you'll probably be up there. I just hope we fucking smash you in both games.

If Gus is as good as they believe he is - he'll take the next job he's offered for more money.

Like Greer he has no class.

Wont get serious discuss from me, because I just cant take Brighton seriously. A horrible team with vile up their own arse supports.

Lots of indication that Greer will fail the medical

Well you're fucking preciuos aren't you. Its nice of you to be such a patronising cunt that you rate us of having as much chance of promotion as you. Greer has really been turned by the fantastic mind games of BHA blah, blah, blah. Oh you remind me of Millwall with your homophobic comments - fuck off gay boy. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its probbably a duck. When we get a BHA fan on here acting like an offended drama queen then its probably an offended drama queen aka gay boy so fuck off and bum your brother.

Gutted Greer's left, certainly not irreplaceable though. Brighton have been mugged.

I'm really quite surprised he's gone to be honest and like most of you have said there must have been something a bit more to it - would be good to have a bit of honesty from the club and stop all the rumours?  I've heard he's been given a 3 year contract, which at his age is obviously good, but I think we should have held out for more that £250,000 for him even though he only had a year left on his contract.  Selling our captain to a team of no greater standing in the same league sends out a rather a strange message to the rest of the division and on top of selling our top scorer?  I personally felt Greer at times was a liability, but then on the other hand had strong leadership skills which were missed at Wembley. He's certainly not irreplaceable, but he does need to be replaced.  I will be very concerned if somebody else with experience is not brought in.  The worry with Morrison is that he's still extremely young and seems injury prone.  Feel slightly peed off, but would be ten times more so if Cuthbert or Austin were to go.  In fact, to the point, I would be recinding my season ticket in protest!  Rather petty, but will be highly amusing if Poyet decides to go to Swansea and then Greer gets injured in his first game!

am disappointed he's going, but we'd only sell him if we had a replacement lined up who is at least as good as greer, if not better. Danny may have the viewpoint that Morrison is that replacement, or perhaps Caddis is about to sign (or someone else entirely).

Either way, Danny will have a plan.

In Danny, and Fitton, we trust.

The TEF would probably explode if that happened.

Ooooh! You can't beat a bit of hysteria!

Yes, I'm as surprised/disappointed as the next man but I certainly think that people should see who we get in or at least hear what AF/DW have to say on this before going out on any killing sprees.

I would have thought Wilson and The Board have done enough to earn at least a modicum of trust from the fans. ::)

Ha ha ha! All that impotent anger. Quite the keyboard warrior, aren't you? And you've got the nerve to call me a drama queen, sweetie.

Cheers to the people who did respond.

Just had a quick scan of Northstand Chat. What a bunch of arrogant twats.

On a side note, was it the Adver that broke this story? No statement from either club or any other source that I can see. If it was the Adver there is a damn good chance that the fee and other details are off the mark. I still can't believe that the fee is as low as 250k.

It would be funny as fuck, if the adver had it wrong. On a sidenote if it does go through. Greer and Brezovan together will be comedy genius at defending corners for them.