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Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, February 4, 2006, 21:24:09
i'm wanting to upgrade my motherboard/processor.

currently i have a P4 2.8ghz. not sure what motherboard i have (how do i check)
The system is a Dell 2400 (lowest of the low)

thing is i want a new motherboard and faster processor.
i take it the better the motherboard the faster it will all run etc aswell??

i'm looking at this one
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?MBB-DC30

is this any good or can i get better ones etc


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Spud on Saturday, February 4, 2006, 22:40:48
Where's land_of_bo when you need him?.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, February 4, 2006, 22:51:00
is he a comp freak then?


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Spud on Saturday, February 4, 2006, 22:52:37
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
is he a comp freak then?


Oh yes, i had a problem with my laptop and he took control of it and corrected the problem within a minute.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, February 4, 2006, 22:54:57
next time i see him logged on i'll ask.

Whits is normally good but he's away in the sun drinking free beer


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Spud on Saturday, February 4, 2006, 23:00:17
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
next time i see him logged on i'll ask.

Whits is normally good but he's away in the sun drinking free beer


Pfffffffft you cant count on people these days.  :|


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 01:23:14
A motherboard is the heart of the computer which allows you to connect things to it (e.g. hard drive). The processor and the memory are components of a working motherboard. The problem is that a motherboard may not be able to handle a bigger processor so an upgrade of both may be necessary. Now this poses another problem. Because you have a Dell, you may not be able to fit a different type of motherboard in your machine. Before continuing this fascinatingly geeky prose - why do you want to upgrade your motherboard/processor. If your PC is getting slow it may mean you need more memory (RAM) not processor speed.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 01:25:10
Hang on - you want to upgrade to a 3ghz from a 2.8ghz? Not sure if there would be much advantage, especially at over £350  :?


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 18:20:05
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Hang on - you want to upgrade to a 3ghz from a 2.8ghz? Not sure if there would be much advantage, especially at over £350  :?


how do i speed my system up?

i noticed with different Dell machines it's the mothorboard they change which can handel the extra power etc.

my system is:
Code:

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
System Model Dimension 2400
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2790 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A05, 02/12/2003
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
User Name
Time Zone GMT Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 545.91 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.64 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


what would be best to do to make it faster??


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: land_of_bo on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 18:52:25
You have 512MB of Ram - upping this to either 1 or 2 gig will speed things up a lot, and is a damn site cheaper than new mobo and processor (under a ton)!

Also, dell are sneaky fucks, you'll probably find it hard to get a mobo that fits in their case, they usually build their PC's to spec and build them in such a way that makes it almost impossible to upgrade them.

Also, for £350 - you can get a whole new PC - I build them for under £300 with minimum of 1GB RAM, AMD 3GHZ processor, 80GB HD etc etc etc...

Plus, if you buy that mobo you'll probably find the existing RAM you have wont work in it, so you'll be spending more cash on RAM...


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: land_of_bo on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:00:12
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
is he a comp freak then?


Oh yes, i had a problem with my laptop and he took control of it and corrected the problem within a minute.


 :cry:

I'm no freaking freak

 :?


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:10:17
Firstly, before you fork out a shit load of money there are a few things you need to do. If, for instance a bit of spyware/adware/a virus/or a legit program is causing the problem, an upgrade of hardware will make little difference.


Download hijack this and run it (do a system scan and save log file). It will give you a text document that is far from plain english. Copy all of the text from the text file and paste it into this forum. I will see if you have any issues with running processes.

http://www.mmdirect.de/downloads/hijackthis_199.zip

Next - have you defragmented your hard drive recently? If no do so. If you don't know how to just ask me in a reply. Also what size hard drive do you have and how much free space is left?

If answer those questions I will see if there is anything you can do. You have a lot of free memory left, although you are using half, which is a worry. My suspicions are that you have too much running in the background. But we'll address that after the hijack this thing is done.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:12:39
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
You have 512MB of Ram - upping this to either 1 or 2 gig will speed things up a lot, and is a damn site cheaper than new mobo and processor (under a ton)!

Also, dell are sneaky fucks, you'll probably find it hard to get a mobo that fits in their case, they usually build their PC's to spec and build them in such a way that makes it almost impossible to upgrade them.

Also, for £350 - you can get a whole new PC - I build them for under £300 with minimum of 1GB RAM, AMD 3GHZ processor, 80GB HD etc etc etc...

Plus, if you buy that mobo you'll probably find the existing RAM you have wont work in it, so you'll be spending more cash on RAM...


But he has 1gb already. I have a hunch that he has onboard graphics (integrated) which could explain the slowness.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:13:27
Quote from: "simon pieman"
A motherboard is the heart of the computer which allows you to connect things to it (e.g. hard drive). The processor and the memory are components of a working motherboard. The problem is that a motherboard may not be able to handle a bigger processor so an upgrade of both may be necessary. Now this poses another problem. Because you have a Dell, you may not be able to fit a different type of motherboard in your machine. Before continuing this fascinatingly geeky prose - why do you want to upgrade your motherboard/processor. If your PC is getting slow it may mean you need more memory (RAM) not processor speed.


now i may not be a sad computer geek face like Si but i actually know that  :shock:


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: land_of_bo on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:13:28
:oops: just noticed he has 1gb RAM...never mind, not quite with it atm  :beers:


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:14:39
Quote from: "Rich"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
A motherboard is the heart of the computer which allows you to connect things to it (e.g. hard drive). The processor and the memory are components of a working motherboard. The problem is that a motherboard may not be able to handle a bigger processor so an upgrade of both may be necessary. Now this poses another problem. Because you have a Dell, you may not be able to fit a different type of motherboard in your machine. Before continuing this fascinatingly geeky prose - why do you want to upgrade your motherboard/processor. If your PC is getting slow it may mean you need more memory (RAM) not processor speed.


now i may not be a sad computer geek face like Si but i actually know that  :shock:


Geek  :nod:


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:16:08
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "Rich"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
A motherboard is the heart of the computer which allows you to connect things to it (e.g. hard drive). The processor and the memory are components of a working motherboard. The problem is that a motherboard may not be able to handle a bigger processor so an upgrade of both may be necessary. Now this poses another problem. Because you have a Dell, you may not be able to fit a different type of motherboard in your machine. Before continuing this fascinatingly geeky prose - why do you want to upgrade your motherboard/processor. If your PC is getting slow it may mean you need more memory (RAM) not processor speed.


now i may not be a sad computer geek face like Si but i actually know that  :shock:



and whos the geek that learnt HTML coding all by himself in a week?  :wink:
Geek  :nod:


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:20:44
And who's got cock on his breath?

Answer: You


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:22:48
Quote from: "simon pieman"
And who's got cock on his breath?

Answer: You



maturity is always one thing i developed before my big bro  :D


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, February 6, 2006, 11:56:49
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
You have 512MB of Ram - upping this to either 1 or 2 gig will speed things up a lot, and is a damn site cheaper than new mobo and processor (under a ton)!

Also, dell are sneaky fucks, you'll probably find it hard to get a mobo that fits in their case, they usually build their PC's to spec and build them in such a way that makes it almost impossible to upgrade them.

Also, for £350 - you can get a whole new PC - I build them for under £300 with minimum of 1GB RAM, AMD 3GHZ processor, 80GB HD etc etc etc...

Plus, if you buy that mobo you'll probably find the existing RAM you have wont work in it, so you'll be spending more cash on RAM...


But he has 1gb already. I have a hunch that he has onboard graphics (integrated) which could explain the slowness.


i do yes and have no way of knowing how to get rid of them.

everytime i go into System devices it is there. i have dissabled it but when i delete it or ask it to uninstall the minute i start my machine up again it tells me it has found new hardware etc and re-installs it. really annoying


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, February 6, 2006, 19:20:22
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Firstly, before you fork out a shit load of money there are a few things you need to do. If, for instance a bit of spyware/adware/a virus/or a legit program is causing the problem, an upgrade of hardware will make little difference.


Download hijack this and run it (do a system scan and save log file). It will give you a text document that is far from plain english. Copy all of the text from the text file and paste it into this forum. I will see if you have any issues with running processes.

http://www.mmdirect.de/downloads/hijackthis_199.zip

Next - have you defragmented your hard drive recently? If no do so. If you don't know how to just ask me in a reply. Also what size hard drive do you have and how much free space is left?

If answer those questions I will see if there is anything you can do. You have a lot of free memory left, although you are using half, which is a worry. My suspicions are that you have too much running in the background. But we'll address that after the hijack this thing is done.


this is what the report gave.

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 19:18:45, on 06/02/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
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C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsrte.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKSrvr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ScsiAccess.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\UAService7.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\BTYAHO~3\SMARTB~1\BTHelpNotifier.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsshld.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKAgent.exe
C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe
c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcagent.exe
c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsescn.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\DVDLauncher.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Modem Event Monitor\IntelMEM.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\McAfee Shared Components\Guardian\CMGrdian.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mscifapp.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ybrwicon.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfAgent.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\YOP\yop.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ycommon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\MediaSource\Detector\CTDetect.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\BTStackServer.exe
C:\Program Files\BT Yahoo! Help\bin\mpbtn.exe
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\browser\ybrowser.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe
C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\OWNER~1.HOM\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.750\HijackThis.exe

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O2 - BHO: McBrwHelper Class - {227B8AA8-DAF2-4892-BD1D-73F568BCB24E} - c:\program files\mcafee.com\mps\mcbrhlpr.dll
O2 - BHO: McAfee Privacy Service Popup Blocker - {3EC8255F-E043-4cae-8B3B-B191550C2A22} - c:\program files\mcafee.com\mps\popupkiller.dll
O2 - BHO: UberButton Class - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll
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O3 - Toolbar: McAfee VirusScan - {BA52B914-B692-46c4-B683-905236F6F655} - c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsshl.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
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O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMixerTray] C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvMixer\NvMixerTray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfee Guardian] C:\Program Files\McAfee\McAfee Shared Components\Guardian\CMGrdian.exe /SU
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPFExe] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPSExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mscifapp.exe /embedding
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [YBrowser] C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ybrwicon.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe"  -osboot
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O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.labatidora.net
O16 - DPF: {01A88BB1-1174-41EC-ACCB-963509EAE56B} (SysProWmi Class) - http://support.euro.dell.com/systemprofiler/SysPro.CAB
O16 - DPF: {0A5FD7C5-A45C-49FC-ADB5-9952547D5715} (Creative Software AutoUpdate) - http://www.creative.com/su/ocx/15015/CTSUEng.cab
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O16 - DPF: {1803B9EF-9905-4F34-AFC4-05D1BAB28801} (RegUserCfgUI Class) - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/controls/yregucfg/2005_6_10_1/yregucfg.cab
O16 - DPF: {4ED9DDF0-7479-4BBE-9335-5A1EDB1D8A21} (McAfee.com Operating System Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/shared/mcinsctl/en-gb/4,0,0,83/mcinsctl.cab
O16 - DPF: {5F0C30E4-1E72-4DCC-85E5-57810F1CA97B} (McUpdatePortalFactory Class) - http://www.amiuptodate.com/vsc/bin/1,0,0,8/McUpdatePortal.cab
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1125865506703
O16 - DPF: {85D1F3B2-2A21-11D7-97B9-0010DC2A6243} (SecureLogin class) - http://secure2.comned.com/signuptemplates/securelogin-devel.cab
O16 - DPF: {8FCDF9D9-A28B-480F-8C3D-581F119A8AB8} - http://static.zangocash.com/cab/Zango/ie/bridge-c10.cab
O16 - DPF: {BCC0FF27-31D9-4614-A68E-C18E1ADA4389} (DwnldGroupMgr Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/shared/mcgdmgr/en-gb/1,0,0,20/mcgdmgr.cab
O16 - DPF: {F6ACF75C-C32C-447B-9BEF-46B766368D29} (Creative Software AutoUpdate Support Package) - http://www.creative.com/su/ocx/15016/CTPID.cab
O16 - DPF: {FF0F0013-0151-153A-A3C9-08032B55E0CD} - http://uk.global-acces.com/7adpower/nonadult.exe
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{9268F586-420E-491D-AE1F-DEF45E499456}: NameServer = 62.6.40.162 194.72.0.98
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Bluetooth Service (btwdins) - WIDCOMM, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe
O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1050\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee WSC Integration (McDetect.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee.com McShield (McShield) - Unknown owner - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Task Scheduler (McTskshd.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee SecurityCenter Update Manager (mcupdmgr.exe) - McAfee, Inc - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\Agent\mcupdmgr.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee.com VirusScan Online Realtime Engine (MCVSRte) - McAfee, Inc - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsrte.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Personal Firewall Service (MpfService) - McAfee Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee SpamKiller Server (MskService) - McAfee Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKSrvr.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: ScsiAccess - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ScsiAccess.EXE
O23 - Service: SecuROM User Access Service (V7) (UserAccess7) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\UAService7.exe
O23 - Service: YPCService - Yahoo! Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\YPCSER~1.EXE


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, February 6, 2006, 19:23:25
I like to read all posts, but to be honest, i just skim read that one


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, February 6, 2006, 19:26:46
Quote from: "STFC Village"
I like to read all posts, but to be honest, i just skim read that one


 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:12:39
Ok mate, apart from some active x controls that you might want to delete, you largely look ok. It also seems like you have a seperate graphics card which looks good. What hard drive do you have and how full is this (right click the c: in my computer and select properties to find out). It might be worth a defrag if you haven't already done so. When is your pc slow (playing games, upon startup, or just in general)?


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:17:40
Also it might be cos your driver for your graphics card is fucked, although it seems to be running ok. Go to start>all programs>accessories>system tools>system info>components>display
and then tell me what adapter type is.

p.s. village is gay and ignore him  :old:


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: STFC Village on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:19:46
Quote from: "simon pieman"
p.s. village is gay and ignore him  :old:
That isn't a valid reason to ignore someone, you fucking Homophobe


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:24:49
Fuck off queer boy, of course it is a valid reason.

p.s. If you really are gay I really mean it  :|


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: STFC Village on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:27:52
I'm not really a ghey, i'm just sticking up for Walrus and Sussex, as they say that your homophobic attitude makes them cry.

Personally, i think they're a pair of cock smokers


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:29:34
Sorry sussex and walrus. Not really of course - the power of suggestion.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:39:25
Homo's have feelings too  :|


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:46:16
:D

I know - so do I  :P


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 09:19:08
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Ok mate, apart from some active x controls that you might want to delete, you largely look ok. It also seems like you have a seperate graphics card which looks good. What hard drive do you have and how full is this (right click the c: in my computer and select properties to find out). It might be worth a defrag if you haven't already done so. When is your pc slow (playing games, upon startup, or just in general)?


ok cheers. Which Active X controls should i get rid of??

my C: drive is 40gig and has about 16gig remaining. did a de-frag on it last week. I also have an external harddrive (not sure if this matters?)

it might be my graphics card as a while back i rolled it back to an older version as (for some reason) Limewire doesn't like the new graphics driver and therfore wont open properly. All limewire support says is roll it back to a previous version.

When my machine is slow is when i'm sub-closing programmes etc. The shortcuts on my desktop dissapear for about 10 seconds and then slowly 1 by 1 they reapear. it's annoying.

Also with the intergrated graphics. is just dissabling enough?
As on my mates PC he had on board graphics and when he installed a new graphics card his on board dissapeared from his Device Manager/Display adapters. Where as mine is still there (just with a red X through it)
When i'm home i shall upload a picture to show you what i mean.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 09:44:18
Firstly you have a P4 2.8Ghz with 1Gig of RAM should be more than fine for everyday surfing, IPOD/music managing, word processing and so forth and more. No point in upgrading yet!

IIRC, the Dell 2400 has on-board(integrated) graphics. This may struggle with recent graphic intensive games/mass photoshop work. But if you don't do this there shouldn't be a problem. FYI: I may be wrong but I don't think there is an AGP port to plug a new graphics card in anyway. you could go PCI, but a better performing AGP card which would be a mobo upgrade or new PC.

The 'slowness' (icons,etc) to me doesn't seem to indicate this is a graphics card problem as such, unless it isn't working properly. We'll wait and look at your screenshot.

Best guesses:

1. Your PC is filled with 'crap' (spyware, etc) which is slowing it down. This seems to be discounted due to the above.
2. Your PC is not configured correctly (device driver error/ conflict)
3. Something else, probably Windows getting into 'a mess' which may or may not be resolvable by someone who knows what they are doing with Windows (I don't).

Before upgrade as a last result you could try trashing your PC by wiping everything and reinstalling (assuming you have the required disks). This is a major pain, normally I forget that I needed *something* that I just wiped out -  a serial Key, a link to where to get a program,  etc, etc.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 09:52:19
so all i'd need to format it is my XP disk and anyother programmes i want to keep etc.

burn them onto CD's before formating??


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 09:53:28
p.s. will i need to format my external Harddrive also?


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 10:25:10
I'd only do this as a last result, i.e. when you are so fed up you are going to chuck it out anyway so have nothing to lose.


Let others try and get it sorted first! You may get away with upgrading a driver or reparing Windows


However, you only need to copy anything you need to keep from the XP disk. The external disk can be unplugged.

Keeping programmes. Generally they install all sorts of info in all kinds of places. So really you need to keep the install program in order to reinstall it on the PC from scratch.


Title: Computer Freaks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 10:29:27
i have a feeling i've fucked up my pc myself :oops:

A while ago i tried upgrading my XP Home to XP Pro.
it didn't work so had to reinstall XP Home without formatting the C: drive.
I've just been told my XP has probably overlayed it's self onto the previous version and could be screwed so therefore not running my pc at it's best.