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After the World Cup.

Thoughts?

Not suprised tbh, don't know who to replace him with though?

It's been pretty obvious this would happen for ages. Not really a suprise at all.

Think Andy King will replace him.

Probably for the best. As Ben says, it has been obvious for a while, if the press want you out, you don't have a prayer in the England job. Not sure he would be the man to take us forward beyond the WC anyway.

I'd imagine it would be a young double act to take the reins after Germany....Pearce would be my tip, alongside McClaren....which would give both men the chance to continue with Man City and 'Boro respectively. Although, Curbishley must be in with an outside chance

Good! Sven is a pikey! An English team needs an English manager, that is passionate about their country.  I know he's inexperienced, but someone like Stuart Pearce would make a great manager, he would 110% passionate and commited to the job!

They should fuck him off now-World Cup or no World Cup!Like the players will miss his dynamic leadership and technical expertise!?

to be honest, its bollocks, cos we all know that he would leave after the world cup anyway - win or no win?! Basically the FA have just given Sven a comfy compensation package for no apparent reason! Even without the paper revelations he would have left, i mean who in the modern day usually gets 2 worlds cups and a european championship? Not many, shelve life for an international manager is short, let alone if you've never won anything in that  time!!


Big Sam for the job is my tip!

I think we all realized/hoped that he'd be leaving after the World cup,so its not a huge shock.The timings a bit off though,couldn't the FA have waited until after the World cup,there always seems to be a question of commitment whan you know the coach is leaving and we all know Sven doesn't exactly come across as Mr passionate at the best of times,how will he be know he knows he's going?
Whoever gets the job will have to be English i think,so i reckon it could be anyone out of the blokes you've already mentioned BUT it has to be a full time job,none of this half hearted rubbish.Being the England manager is one of the biggest jobs in world football,it should be treated with the respect it deserves.

Not really any decent managers around .... Terry Venables for me

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oh you do crack me up

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To be honest i'm struggling to think of a manager,but El Tel,it isn't going to happen.

I wonder if Ferguson would still be after the job? He said a few years back that he wanted to manage England after Man U. Wouldn't be happy with that at all although it's unlikely to happen.

I think it will be Allardyce myself, although Pearce/McLaren is also a good shout. Don't think Curbishley will be appointed.

I guess if I had to pick an exisiting Premiership manager Pearce would be the one ... So Sonic whats wrong with Terry Venables???  :|

I think psycho is the fans favourite,but he's only been in a job for a short while,so it may be too early for the bloke.Whoever gets it ,it has to be a full time job.You can't manage one team and England, its too important a position to be treated like that.

Pearce has not proved himself yet, way to soon to be throwing him into the international scene. Nowt wrong with El Tels footballing credentials but do the FA trust him ? Gus Hiddink has been mentioned but do we want another foriegn coach ? This leaves either Big Sam and his long ball tactics or Alan Curbishley,neither of which fill me with any great hope for the future . Personally i dont care who we get as long as they get us playing decent football and pick a side that will do the nation proud.

I'd like Sir Bobby to get it again, but he wouldn't be interested

I'd agree with what you've said Foggy :) its also why i think Sven has been able to keep the job for so long,there is no obvious replacement.

I think it unfortunate the NOTW have potentially scuppered Englands chances by revealing all this so close to the world cup. The UK tabloids seem to want us to fail by revealing thing "in the interests of the public".

Incidently I think Swen should have gone after the World Cup. But that discussion/revalation should have been made after the tournament.

Replacements. Couldn't care less if they are English or not, as long as they are the best men for the job. But we will get saddled with Alerdyce or McClaren won't we?

the best choice hasn't even been mentioned yet ...peter taylor, experience with the u21's and has  been england manager before(all be it for 1 game)

But he's a cunt

that he may be but still would be a good choice

For a cunt

Sorry I despise Taylor

you disguise it well  :)

No surprise that Sven is going after the world cup. To be fair he's not done a bad job although nothing amazing, still time though but someone else deserves a chance.

Allardyce has to be favourite, knows his stuff and has done very well.

Personally my first choice would be Mourinho though but can't see the FA paying more than Chelsea.

Benitez wouldn't be a bad choice.

please god, not fat sam as England manager.

It will be like real life Mike Bassett

He'd probablly drop Owen for Kevin Davies

I'd rather have another foreigner than any of the english managers mentioned. The only English manager I really have any respect for is Pearce, and its far too early in his managerial creer to be giving him the England job.

Big Phil Scolari would be my choice. I'm not sure what is English is like though.

its a real hard one
stuart pearce will surely manage england someday, but after the world cup is too early i would say (maybe not) if the FA were to employ him i'd probably have an 'advisor' or some sort of double act for the time being, perhaps team him with bob rob or el tel.

in saying that, even though how much i despise the idea, another foreign coach looks like the most suitable idea. mourinho? perhaps but it seems like his success comes with the ability to have unique training ground and lifestyle methods for his players, which he couldnt do as england manager.

carlos alberto perreira i recon, he's won a world cup already and will probably do so again in t'summer. if he does then why would he want to stay on?

Big Gus Hiddink looks favourite but a hell of a lot will happen in the space of the next few months that'll probably turn it all on its head.

You look at the usual suspects and there's more inspiration in a ham and cheese baguette.  If O'Neil isn't given the job I'd bet my mortgage on it being another interim foreigner with the pretence that he's going to groom Pearce or whoever else is flavour of the month.

i really couldnt give a fuck

I'd rather they gave the job to Maradonna than Bryan Robson, Curbishley, or Steve McLaren.

i'd try my hardest to get Mourinho myself, hopefully he'd be up for a new challenge after winning everything at Chelsea.....

For comedy value, i'd love Neil Warnock in charge. 8)

Funny I thought of Warnock ... I actually think he might be good as well you know!

Big Ron  :D

i read in one of the papers at the weekend that steve coppell has been mentioned. not sure he'd be very good though.

mourinho would be my choice if the fa could afford it.

Martin o'Neill for me, failing that Guus Hiddink or Big Phil.  No English managers inspire enough confidence, and big sma's long ball game would be dull.  If Mourinho would do it it'd be ace.  I think Sven's experience has been an eye opener to foreign coaches on the pressure of the job, and people like the NotW don't help.  Watch them get all patriotic come June, then blame Sven when we fail, not that them publically undermining him had anything to do with it!

Outside shot is Hitzfeld, I think he's been learning English of late.

I don't think Coppell would either. Now Reading are heading inevitably for the prem this season he still has so much to achieve with them.

can managers not do both jobs though? Club & Country?

I never said they couldn't do both But Steve Coppell???????????  I don't think so.

wasnt a specific comment towards your post, just a general query....can they do both?

Get Sven out and now get Mourinho to manage us from May till August through the World Cup then go from there...

I guess they could, however they run the risk of being accused of favouritism if they play players from their own team more regularly and also if they make decisions people don't agree with (substitutions etc.)

Probably true....I'd get a new manager in asap. Teams never do well when they know the manager is leaving, look at Southampton when they heard Stachen was leaving....or Fulham when they knew Tigna was leaving....not good

someone in my office suggested Sir Clive Woodward - saying "well he won the Rugby World Cup!"  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I agree with DV. Moral needs to be high in the run up to the world cup, and uncertainty is never good. I think they would have done better keeping it under wraps until after the world cup tbh.

As I've just read the lsat times this situation arose with England we made the semis, in '90 and '96.  Although usually I feel teams can't seem to perform when they know the coach is leaving.

some of these suggestions scare me...

i think scolari's a good shout. hiddink hasn't really done much but did quite well with south korea in the last world cup.

The thing that gets me, is he'd probably leave after the world cup anyway, but now he's being dismissed after it with a large payoff... he's done well there!

Get him out now so we can prepare properly for the competition.

ditching sven and getting a new manager in now would be a ridiculous idea. A new manager would have 3(?) friendly matches before the main competition to decide a squad to suit his own style of play or vice-versa. Nowhere near enough preparation time for a new manager. Definately best he stays till after the world cup. Sure all this anti-sven feeling will change when we win the world cup :) , he hasn't actually done too bad of a job as manager.

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Its true unfortunately and one of the reasons why Sven has stayed in the job so long.To my mind there really is no viable or obvious English candidate.But the Great English public, whipped up by the media will say they want an English man in charge :-))( Gus Hiddink would be my choice,he's done well in international football with teams that have half the skill of ours,but will he want the job with our fucking media constantly slagging him off? At least he might be less of a slut than Sven anyway :wink:

Too true, our delightfully two faced media make the ob a poisened chalice IMHO.  Hiddink is good though, knows his footy good experience, no obvious bias to any club sides, and being dutch makes him something of an anglophile in my experience.