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Sunderland 1-0 up!  :shock:

certainly would they were 16/1 to win! :D

I hope Chelsea win because it would be funny if Sunderland didn't reach double figures this season.

They need to concede another 61 to get to a hundred though so they would have to have a lot of hammerings to do that. 1-1 now.

We want to keep at least 1 Premiership record, people might forget we were ever there

Thing is we scored 47 which was very good and more than 8 teams that year including 10th placed Aston Villa. That's more than Everton scored last year and they finished 4th qualifying for the champions league.

2-1 now, Robben scored, went to celebrate with his fans, and got sent off cause he'd already had a yellow earlier in the game!

Robben sent off for celebrating? What the fuck is that about. :?

Ahahahaha classic  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
That is a bit gay though

they know the rules! i'm listening to it so i've yet to see what he actually did. BUT the commentators are saying "oh that's silly" etc, BUT as i say...the players know what they're allowed to do or not.

plus it's chelsea they're going to win everything anyway, who fucking cares

If you celebrate with the fans its a yellow card. The rule is there, the players should know not to do it.
It is their job NOT to do it.

Referee did nothing wrong.

The referee should exercise some common sense. It's fucking ridiculous. I don't think we'd be too happy if that was one of our own players. Being booked for celebrating is a harsh and pointless rule anyway but a red card just takes the piss. Madness.

He'd be rapped by the FA for not doing the right thing by the letter of the law. in my eyes it was the correct decision, even if i disagree with the law itself.

God you're such a blinded cunt about King, Crouch and non-Arsenal sides aren't you?

Yes, it's a shit rule, but everyone knows it. Off the pitch = yellow card. Ben, that is a FACT, that is a LAW, if you're going to go off on one then you're an idiot.

Rant over.

were you adding to my point or taking exception to it?!

dmr has managed to, in his outraged state, say what i planned to. good work youngling

Whatever Dave, fact is sending someone off for being happy about scoring is a complete joke. So what if it's the rules, the rules should be changed or at least use some discretion, i.e. don't send someone off for scoring. Common sense, simple common sense.

If this wasn't Chelsea I imagine people would see how stupid it is. As it was, it didn't make any difference but it's still a ridiculous rule. I'm not so much complaining about the referee but the whole rule about bookings for celebrating like that. What's the point.

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yes it's stupid but the point is that they know what to expect....so they should realise not to do it. common sense from the players (cos there's near enough none at the FA) is all that can be done

I thought Robben's 2nd booking was harsh but funny!, although it does state in the rules that you're not allowed to jump into the fans to celebrate.

Mcdermott got booked when he did it against City so why should it be any different in the Premiership?.

Exactly. And you can't make an exception for somebody who has already been booked. That would be even more ridiculous. Then you would have arguments about what other rules should be applied like that.

The rules say he had to go. End of.

I was getting pissed off with Andy Gray keep going on and on about how harsh it was!, you cant not book him just because he's already been booked.

unless it's michael essien or chelsea are at home

Which just highlights why the rules should be changed. If this was Swindon you'd be perfectly happy with it would you, if a player was sent off after scoring to put us in the lead and then we conceded soon after. I wouldn't.

Its the rules though Ben and the players should know that by now!.

i'd like to second this

When Mcdermott was interviewed after the Brizzle game he said something along the lines of "i knew i was going to bet booked but i thought sod it".

No I wouldn't be HAPPY if a Town player was sent off, but they are the rules so you can't argue with the referee.
I would be more pissed off with the player myself.

Well according to match of the day by the rules he should not have been booked because he didn't climb over, or onto the railings, only an advertising hoarding. Also, the rules apparently do say that the referee should use his discretion. So a very poor decision by the referee. End of.  :P

Surely that very argument condemns the first. The referee felt that he shouldn't have done that and that's his decision. From the sound of it getting the fans worked up can have a negative effect (from tales of yesterday).

No it doesn't condemn it at all.

Firstly Robben did nothing wrong so shouldn't have got a second booking anyway, and even if he had jumped into the actual crowd,  they were suggesting that the referee can still use his discretion and not book him which if it would be a sending off would be a good idea. Any talk of oh you can't make any exceptions just because he's already been booked is bollocks, it's not like referee's never do that. It's just the same if a player makes a bad tackle the referee might warn him and if he makes a similar tackle again then he'll book him, some decision are just down to the referees judgement and a good ref should realise how ridiculous it is to send someone off for scoring, so if they thought it was a borderline booking they wouldn't make it two yellows. Really though it wasn't a booking anyway so the ref shouldn't have done anything.

Inciting the other team's fans is one thing but he didn't do that, they were Chelsea fans and there was a barrier between him and them so to send him off is fucking stupid.

To be honest I see no reason why a player shouldn't be able to jump in the crowd and run half way up the stand hugging people if that's how they want to celebrate and they shouldn't be booked.

I can't believe so many people are actually defending the decision, the only reason I can think of is because of hating Chelsea because if it was anyone else I don't think you would. I'd still think it was ridiculous whichever team it was, if it was someone playing Swindon I'd take it but it would be a shite decision.

Still I guess it would make be an interesting rulechange if every time a player scores he gets sent off.

I agree with Ben, there's no way Robben should've been sent off for that celebration. However, i can see why the referee did send him off, although i disagree with the decision.

Robben's first booking shouldn't have been a yellow anyway

Spot on. Glad somebody watched the rules too!

The referee was correct to send him off .. if you jump the surrounding fence its a yellow card .. and he had one already so really should have used a bit of intelligence ...

However its hardly inciting the crowd -- as its a goal ... and to be honest FIFA needs to look at changing the rule for this

Sunderland deserved a draw for their hard work

Ben, this shit about it being an advertising board is Le Saux on MOTD talking bollocks as usual.

The rule is that it's a booking if you leave the field of play. Which he did.

le saux is a gay for gods sake. now they really are barely people!

As said, leaving/entering the field of play without consent is a bookable offence. Rules are rules. Refs have a bee in their bonnet about it at the moment so that's that. It doesn't matter if it is a stupid rule or not, it's a booking.

http://www.fifa.com/en/laws/Laws12_04.htm  - Cautionable Offences, law 12, point 6 & point 7, cautionable offences.



End of discussion

The field of play is anything inside the touchline which means that rule is utterly ridiculous and fifa should change it immediately because is a very sad situation when a player is sent off merely for celebrating a goal he's scored. It is ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed to happen. End of.

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After the game they did a report on it and showed the footballing rules and regulations.  When comparing what Robben did and the regulations the conclusion was that it didn't warrant the booking. Fowler got a booking for doing it the other day but thats because he was inciting the opposition fans which is something Robben did not do.

Also he didn't actually go into the crowd, the crowd came to him as he was behind the barrier.

It also mentioned in the regulations that common sense is something the referee should use in such circumstances which is clearly something he didnt use at all!

I stand corrected, sorry:

Yeah I thought there must be some more rules about it., that makes more sense

The referee chief has said he was booked for jumping on the rail not just for crossing the touchline.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/01/16/SOCCER_Referees.html&TEAMHD=soccer



But he didn't jump on the rail that so that guy really should watch the footage again and having seen the footage it didn't look at all dangerous so as he'd already been harshly booked there was no need to book him again.

 :nod:  His celebration wasn't excessive, he didnt make provocative gestures, he didn't climb on the fence, he didn't remove his shirt - now someone tell me what grounds there were for a booking?

Dennis Rodman: "I don't give a shit"

He plays for Chelsea!.  :wink:

hurrah spuddy! good work son

Can't believe after Robben being booked and sent off for nothing Neville gets away without even a booking for deliberately inciting Liverpool fans. What is worse is wasn't even his goal. If anything's going to cause crowd trouble that is it.

What's even worse is I had a bet on it being 0-0. :x

Neville is my new hero after that.  Brilliant!

Simon Yeo got sent off for the same thing this weekend