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well, everyone knows we are crap at One Dayers...why?

imo, i put it down to not having had a strong team for long enough. We haven't got a core team for one dayers like tests. if so, whatshould our team be? its a hard one.

its not that we haven't got a good ODI side (see performances against Aus) it's just that we're very reliant on a core of players and if we they are injured we severely miss them

i still expect us to do well at the world cup

as for our side:

1 M Trescothick
2 A Strauss
3 M Vaughan
4 I Bell
5 K Pietersen
6 A Flintoff
7 P Collingwood
8 G Jones
9 A Giles
10 S Jones
11 S Harmison

Super sub: Anderson or Blackwell

I'd prefer to have Anderson or Blackwell (dependent on pitch) in the side but at the minute I can't decide which one of the top 7 doesn't deserve inclusion

Like ive said in another topic on here, play the same team in the ODI as the Test side.

no because hoggard is a complete joke in ODIs and Collingwood isn't good enough for Tests but is a class act in ODIs

whilst keeping the same core of players in both sides is vital, since when has any side in the history of the game selected exactly the same side in both Test and ODIs??

But countries like Australia and SA can get away with seperate ODI and Test sides, we have never succesfully done it.

isn't that because of the players we've got

why can they get away with it and we can't?

I would like to see Jimmy Anderson play a bit more.
For some reason I like him more than Harmison  :-))(

its our batting. we play like "cavalliers" all the time thinking we can just score 300 plus every innings. in other words we slog and it just doesnt get you anywhere in one day cricket

Because i wouldnt say we have the same ODI class as the Aussies.

but that doesn't explain why we should pick the same side in Tests and ODIs

you should pick the best XI players in one dayers and the best XI in Tests

I dont know?, i just think we should keep the bulk of the test side together in the ODI games aswell.

i think the core is the most important, these players for both tests and ODI's are:

Trescothick
Strauss
Vaughan
Bell
Pietersen
Flintoff
Jones
S.Jones
Harmison

I think those players will always be or should be selected.

Other players could be Blackwell, Anderson, Giles (could easily be core), Prior (WK) Collingwood.

Giles is a core player has been for four years

This is Johno's opinion, not fact so you can't say he is wrong!

I think that bar Hoggard, the team doesn't really need to change much for ODIs. Obviously you have Gough, Solanki and others to come in but we don't seem to have enough TOP players to create seperate teams.

Of course I can because the number of appearances he's made and that he is a certainty in the Test and ODI make him a core player.

ive said he easily could be, but to be honest, i think blackwells bowling this one day series should automatically make him play in the first odi in india.

In other words, continuity between the test and ODI sides.

why? what blackwell has done in this series is what giles has been doing for 4 years. if blackwell plays in india it will be alongside giles rather than instead of him

very true. would england use two spinners though? they rarely do....Indias pitches though obviously favour spin, so its very likely.

Hurray,i've just realised that we are now sixth in the Icc ODI league  :D  Due to Sri Lanka not being able to beat New Zealand in their series,although the Sri Lankans could draw :( but a series clean sweep by the New Zealand boys would leave Sri Lanka on 103 points,we have 108  .Anyway at this moment in time we won't have to qualify for the Champions trophy  :grin:

:| that is great. all is saved!

It is a very slight light i admit,but heck its something :)
I really shoudn't be that excited about it i guess.I'm strangely obsessed about us not having to qualify for the Champions Trophy,can't explain why :oops:

:soapy tit wank: i guess its a certainty we will be playing!

i didnt even know we had to qualify for that. i thought the test playing nations all went through automattically and left it to the minnows like scotland to get the last 2 places

There is a ODI league table and if we occupy seventh position in it during mid April some time,we will have to qualify.The trouble being that we only have a couple of odi games against India coming up before that date,so we haven't much opportunity to make sure we do it ourselves.So come on New Zealand :)