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Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:45:17
Surely it shud be us after him!

"Northampton manager Colin Calderwood says that Rushden and Diamonds midfielder Andy Burgess is a possible transfer target in January.
Calderwood told BBC Radio Northampton: "We have not make a bid but we are aware of Rushden's situation and especially his situation.

"Andy will become a free agent in the summer and because of this they may take a transfer fee for him in January.

"He is one of a number of players that we are looking at." "


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: mattboyslim on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:47:22
We looked at him in the past, but Northampton are the money bags of the basement and probably pay more than we could.


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:48:16
..and....what exactly are we going to buy him with, peanuts? Mark D's favourite Cheese?


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:56:18
well if we dont spend something its gonna cost us more being relegated


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:58:07
Quote from: "fatbury"
well if we dont spend something its gonna cost us more being relegated


spend what?

I think its rather simple, we have no money....even if we sell players we still wont have any transfer funds. I dont think we will ever buy a player for money again


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:58:41
I thought he was an Andy King target? Iffy wouldn't necessarily be after the same players as the previous manager eh? Because he has ideas of his own? And yeah, we can't afford him anyway


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:09:37
well maybe we need to sell someone like O Hanlon or Ifil then to raise some cash ?


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:10:38
Quote from: "fatbury"
well maybe we need to sell someone like O Hanlon or Ifil then to raise some cash ?


How will that help?


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: janaage on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:18:38
I think we should put our entire first team squad on longer better paid contracts.  Double their win bonuses, take a bit of pressure off them.  Then we can bring back the decent company car scheme, so they feel more important.

That'll fix the problem.


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:21:12
Because neither O Hanlon or Ifil has shown anything at all this season .. grossly under acheived ...

Comyn Platt should become first choice with Leigh Henry as cover ... and then the money could be used on strengthening a pathetically poor and weak midfield


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:23:52
Quote from: "fatbury"
Because neither O Hanlon or Ifil has shown anything at all this season .. grossly under acheived ...

Comyn Platt should become first choice with Leigh Henry as cover ... and then the money could be used on strengthening a pathetically poor and weak midfield


What money, we have no money even if we sold Sean O'Hanlon or Jerel Ifil (who would buy them?) the money would go straight into the boards pockets.

Andy King didnt see any of the Sam Parkin transfer money (however much it was, but more than we would get for Ifil & O'Hanlon doubled) over the summer, so why would now be any different

we have no money
we will never buy a player for money again


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:26:39
Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and you're okay.
Money, it's a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team.

Money, get back.
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, it's a hit.
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit.
I'm in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet.

Money, it's a crime.
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise it's no surprise that they're
giving none away.

"HuHuh! I was in the right!"
"Yes, absolutely in the right!"
"I certainly was in the right!"
"You was definitely in the right. That geezer was cruising for a
bruising!"
"Yeah!"
"Why does anyone do anything?"
"I don't know, I was really drunk at the time!"
"I was just telling him, he couldn't get into number 2. He was asking
why he wasn't coming up on freely, after I was yelling and
screaming and telling him why he wasn't coming up on freely.
It came as a heavy blow, but we sorted the matter out"


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:52:21
Classic floyd!

The board needs to let funds be made available


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:10:44
Quote from: "fatbury"
Classic floyd!

The board needs to let funds be made available


The board may not be able to make funds available. The priority always has to be paying off creditors.


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:16:30
true ben - thats whys we are going down .. you can blame King and Iffy but in reality THAT is why


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:17:03
Quote from: "fatbury"
Classic floyd!

The board needs to let funds be made available


never going to happen though, esp. with the remaining payment needing to be made end of this season I think.

Ask wee Willie to dip his hand in his pocket  :evil:


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: fatbury on Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:21:28
hed rather cut his hands off! true fan tho eh!


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: RobertT on Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:53:05
The club loses about £750k a season (more in the past accounts).

SSW's last injection was actually a loan secured on his land, suggesting his pockets have been emptied.  A certain construction company being the provider of the actual cash.

The Board are employees, not rich people investing, just employees running the business for SSW.

If we get any money it is best put away to cover the final CVA payment in 2007.  Can't see out creditors being very happy if we splashed cash on players before settling their debts...and that would lead to a winding-up order.


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: red macca on Monday, December 19, 2005, 15:22:52
roberts we signed when everyone said we would never spend.

fallon we done the same.parkin we spent when they didnt think we would.

people said we couldnt get mooney on his wages. we did though.

begining of this season everybody was saying we couldnt get thorpe and cureton on the wages they are on but we did.
just pointing out that though we are allways skint we still manage to get some cash from somewhere


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: Leggett on Monday, December 19, 2005, 17:23:56
...but curo and thorpe were shite, we need battling strikers, not ones that need service to their feet. we cant/wont/havent done that for a very, very long time.

i think carsons pockets are too deep for his little stumpy arms, hence the lack of money he's put into this club.


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, December 19, 2005, 17:30:55
Quote from: "fatbury"
true ben - thats whys we are going down .. you can blame King and Iffy but in reality THAT is why


we got to the playoffs when we were skint as well.

burgess isn't the sort of player we need and who on earth is going to buy any of our players when we're bottom of the league?


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: red macca on Monday, December 19, 2005, 17:48:39
Quote from: "Leggett"
...but curo and thorpe were shite, we need battling strikers, not ones that need service to their feet. we cant/wont/havent done that for a very, very long time.

i think carsons pockets are too deep for his little stumpy arms, hence the lack of money he's put into this club.
whether they are shite or not people said we couldnt afford them


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: Leggett on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:37:55
right, so with that in mind, we can get wank, useless players to fit in our wage budget. that fills me with so much confidence...


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:42:27
Quote from: "red macca"
roberts we signed when everyone said we would never spend.


Most of it was apperance based though, so really we've probably paid peanuts for him. Plus I expect we bought Roberts last year knowing Parkin would be off the following season, the money spent on Roberts in my opinion was taken out of the Parkin transfer fee when we recieved it. The idea was gamble now on Roberts so we can have him and Parkin in the same team, more chance of getting promoted, if we dont then we sell Parkin and that will fund the Roberts deal. If that makes sense

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fallon we done the same.parkin we spent when they didnt think we would.


We were doing well and gates were up

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people said we couldnt get mooney on his wages. we did though.


Birmingham were still paying most of his wages though, when it came to paying his full wages we couldnt, then he left


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:46:39
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "fatbury"
well if we dont spend something its gonna cost us more being relegated


spend what?

I think its rather simple, we have no money....even if we sell players we still wont have any transfer funds. I dont think we will ever buy a player for money again


Well Iffy said in his match reaction on saturday that he is lookin to bring in a few new faces, in the january transfer window. He cant mean loans as we have used all our loan signins this season.


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:49:54
Quote from: "PHIL!!!!"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "fatbury"
well if we dont spend something its gonna cost us more being relegated


spend what?

I think its rather simple, we have no money....even if we sell players we still wont have any transfer funds. I dont think we will ever buy a player for money again


Well Iffy said in his match reaction on saturday that he is lookin to bring in a few new faces, in the january transfer window. He cant mean loans as we have used all our loan signins this season.


I dont think we have somehow....Iffy will have to bring in loans, he doesnt have any other options


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:55:47
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "PHIL!!!!"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "fatbury"
well if we dont spend something its gonna cost us more being relegated


spend what?

I think its rather simple, we have no money....even if we sell players we still wont have any transfer funds. I dont think we will ever buy a player for money again


Well Iffy said in his match reaction on saturday that he is lookin to bring in a few new faces, in the january transfer window. He cant mean loans as we have used all our loan signins this season.


I dont think we have somehow....Iffy will have to bring in loans, he doesnt have any other options


A loan isn't an option though. We have used up all 8. The only way to get another loan however, is if we sign one of our on loan players (Gurney?), but again, that obviously means spendin money....


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: red macca on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:56:41
Quote from: "Leggett"
right, so with that in mind, we can get wank, useless players to fit in our wage budget. that fills me with so much confidence...
:soapy tit wank:  :soapy tit wank: it aint that bad .with a bit of luck cureton will be back scoring goals for us


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DV on Monday, December 19, 2005, 20:12:12
Quote from: "PHIL!!!!"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "PHIL!!!!"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "fatbury"
well if we dont spend something its gonna cost us more being relegated


spend what?

I think its rather simple, we have no money....even if we sell players we still wont have any transfer funds. I dont think we will ever buy a player for money again


Well Iffy said in his match reaction on saturday that he is lookin to bring in a few new faces, in the january transfer window. He cant mean loans as we have used all our loan signins this season.


I dont think we have somehow....Iffy will have to bring in loans, he doesnt have any other options


A loan isn't an option though. We have used up all 8. The only way to get another loan however, is if we sign one of our on loan players (Gurney?), but again, that obviously means spendin money....


Loans are classed as long term and short term though?

God knows what the difference is, but we must have some loans left otherwise Iffy wouldnt have brought in Mikalonda & Brown, it was would be stupid to use up all our loans before the end of the year!!! stupidity even beyond us I'd hope


Title: Andy Burgess
Post by: DMR on Monday, December 19, 2005, 21:47:15
Why'd he come here, we'll be down in that fucking league next season anyway.