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how the fuck was he not sent off today.

1 elbowing lauren
2 taking out van persie
3 take your pick


he must have a very satisfying manner in bed to make sure he doesn't get sent off even when he fucking takes people out at knee height or just plain assualt-ben haim, hamann.

 :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

Gurney would 'ave him though  8)

that's a good point.

so we've sorted gurney out as the executioner?

he is a filthy fucker. i thought someone was gonna have an early bath in that match, got quite heated.

first one i thought was a harsh booking, didnt think he meant it at all. However the second was a definate booking and should have walked seeing as he had laready been booked.

chelsea are just twats overall. are ruining the premiership. :evil:

I thought Senderos' challange on Robben was worthy of a straight red. 2 footed tackle from behind....Last man. Yellow card  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: what a joke. Essien should have gone when he kicked Van Persie.

When does that rule about only having 5 foriegners in your squad come into effect? The likes of Chelski and Arsenal will be screwed.

probably stayed on as Chelsea bribed the ref ... and Senderos challenge wasnt 2 footed .. might have been a foul but NOT two footed .. wasnt last man either Lauren was covering .. yellow was correct!

But the goal Van Persie scored SHUD have counted

Chelsea wont be screwed they will just buy the best English players at that stage when it happens

Yeh Van Persie's goal was, well, a goal. Nothing wrong with that. My mistake about Senderos. I didn't watch the game I watched the highlights on MOTD2 and I didn't notice Lauren Covering. probably due to the fact I was falling asleep watching it. Some referee's would have sent him off for that though.

You're right about Chelsea aswell! They'll just go out and spend spend spend.

i support arsenal aswell  (yes i know, but i'm very passionate so i can spread my love, similar to have everyone spreads their physical love over leggets ma) and i have to say,...yes envious of the money and all that, and i know we have some pricks (pires!, reyes, pires) but i honestly wouldn't have any of the chelsea team on the arsenal side. they're just obnoxious! there's a certain level of arrogance and i think pires apitamises that for arsenal but the rest seem pretty down to earth....where as chelsea can be decribed as cunts

And to think i nearly had a ticket for yesterday, thank fuck for that. :|

Essien didn't deserve to be sent off yesterday, against Liverpool he did. I was very happy to see Arsenal lose again. 8th :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Arsenals players are much bigger twats than Chelsea's. I like Wright-Phillips, Terry, Joe Cole and Lampard, good English players. Robben and Duff can be great to watch too. Pires and Henry though are beret wearing, dirty french bastards and Wenger is a total twat.

are u Rob Styles in disguise?

BWB is a Yid bastard!  :evil:

must come from West Swindon .. home of the Spurs massive!

I dislike both tbh, but Henry from Arsenal and Lampard and Terry from Chelsea are the finest players in the prem,  I have to say enry must be one of the least dirty of all foreingers in the league.

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=346523&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=FA+to+study+Wenger+comments&channel=football_home

why? everything he said is true

and that Portuguese idiot was so arrogant he wouldnt even shake hands!!

On another note .. John Gorman showed what a top bloke he is by shaking all the hands of the Bury players who ended Wycombes run on Saturday .. he really is the nicest man in football .. EVER!

So Rob Styles and his assistant are Chelsea fans? Do me a lemon!

I sense a gunners fan in the swindon ranks  :x

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/Lemon-fruit.jpg

Thanks DV

no worries  8)

Village he never actually said they were Chelsea fans ... read the quote!

for the record .. im a london boy who moved here in 1979 .. was Arsenal - then Swindon .. and Celtic are just who i follow in Scotland .

I would only say I was a Swindon and Arsenal fan.

The Frenchman ran the risk of an investigation from The FA after questioning the impartiality of referee Rob Styles and one of his assistants.

What does that mean then?

sky went on about how the goals were dodgy, personally i thought the officials were spot on.

henry was offside and interfering if you watch makelele.

means he implied that was the case but he never actually said that straight out ... who bloody cares?? the FA will do what it wants as usual .. we as Swindon fans should know how corrupt the FA and Football League are ... as i used to sing .. The Football League is full of shit .. etc etc

How was he interfering?, the rules state that if he touches the ball the flag should then be put up as he is interfering with play, he didnt touch the ball it went to Van Persie who wasnt offside.

Same difference surely. Whatever, i agree with BWB's original statement about Wenger

Sour grapes from Wenger, to be fair Chelsea deserved the win, for large periods of the game they were in complete control.

Wenger is easily the most annoying manager in my opinion, he just moans about everything, threatens to sue people for light-hearted comments. He's the Gary Stanley of premiership management in that respect.

Sure Henry is one of the best players in the premiership but he's French which is why he's dirty rather than playing dirty.

Most of the players I like in the premiership are English.

Rooney, Lampard, Crouchy, Terry, Defoe, Joe Cole, Gerrard, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Ledley King, Wayne Bridge, Nolan, Owen. Ashley Cole is ok, shame he plays for Arsenal.

i smell a Spurs man!

I smell

http://www.colognesrus.com/image/jean_paul_gaultier_m.jpg

yeah we kno !  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

where do the rules say that then spuddy, cos i'm a qualified ref and i don't remember seeing that anywhere.

don't believe all the shit the pundits on sky come out with, i was getting angry at the tv with all of the factually incorrect stuff they were saying. remember that thing about there having to be 'air' on offside decisions? that was made up by andy gray and everyone took it as gospel - turns out its not remotely true. gray is the worst, he makes the ref's job much harder with all the mixed messages he gives fans.

it was offside. henry was pulling defenders away from van persie (?), like i said if you watch makelele he moves away from the scorer due to henrys presence, therefore henry is interfering with play.

Surely then OF, this case could be argued in nearly every case and the offside rule has changed very little from its original state?

A question, not an argument btw....

Basically I hate Arsenal for not being remotely English.
I don't like Chelsea because of Essien, and I don't like Robben's attitude on the pitch either. He is a cheat.

The football league is where the real football is  :wink:

don't really understand your point mate - what can be argued in nearly every case? interfering?

being offside is a matter of fact - you're either in an offside position or not.

interfering is where subjectivity comes into it.

Yeah, i guess i didn't make that very clear. I was meaning that, you could argue, that any player who is offside is interfering with play indirectly i.e. pulling players away from the attacking player with the ball. Is their anything about this in teh rules?

Poor you  :mrgreen:

I fucking hate Michael Essien.

Fucking rash, dirty, cheating, square headed cock.

I quite like Essien to be honest, tough but talented. The first challenge on Van Persie was nothing, Van Persie is doing exactly the same to him, just Essien is stronger. Not a booking.

For the elbowing a booking was a bit harsh, Lauren was making the most of it and the kick on Van Persie was nothing, he barely touched him. Van Persie is just a diving twat exaggerating the faintest touch.

To be honest Arsenal were lucky not to give away a penalty at the start when Drogba took it round the keeper and was fouled. Then senderos was pulling his shirt again to stop him being clean through on goal, which should've been a booking and Senderos's other foul which he was booked for was at least a booking so Rob Styles should've senthimoff definitely.

Take off those Spurs coloured glasses ffs!, Essien swung his elbow out at Lauren and whether he hit him or not is a different matter, the intent was there and the cunt should have been booked.

Even a bloke at work who doesnt follow Arsenal or Chelsea said Essien should have went.

essien is a dirty player end off

I hate Essien, and his elbow did hit Lauren (didn't they say he would lose a front tooth because of it? :shock: ), but i don't think it was intentional.

I sort of agree with OF on the offside decision, however the top ref bloke doesn't, it would appear...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4544544.stm

yeah you stinky long haired pikey

The impression they give on the 'interpretation' side of the rule is ridiculous.  If Henry had raised his hand and walked away he wouldn't have been interferring, but as soon as he ran at goal he was getting involved to me?

Mind you I've seen more contentious ones given, Fifa seem to keep changing the rules at the highest level from what you hear.

they should just whack it back to the old days. if you are in an offside position even on the opposite side of the pitch, you're offside.

agreed much more simple for retards like me to understand!

and if anyone knows about defending and playing people offside its Lee Dixon.... :roll:

thats supposed to be the point of the interfering bit.

if henry was down in the opposite corner when the pass was played, fine, no offside. but the reason i would say it was offside is because if henry had not been there, and thus makelele not run forward to play him offside, makkers would have been covering the space where van persie got the ball and scored. i think thats pretty direct involvement.

as it says in the rules, if he's in an offisde position and doing one of these:

1. interfering with play
2. interfering with opposition player
3. gaining an advantage by being in that position

then its a free-kick.

at first I thought it should have counted, but now thinking about it Oxford Fan is right.

The fact Henry was running towards the ball/box/goal means he was part of play. Even if he gets no where near the ball the defence still have to aware of where he is.

If he had his hands up and was walking in the opposite direction then the defenders and officials know he isnt going towards the ball to get involved with play

there is far too much grey area over offside/not offside.

fifa/eufa should use examples to highlight what they mean

i'm sorry thats just not true. its perfectly clear, just because players/fans/pundits don't get it doesn't mean the law is wrong.

blah blah blah blah blah

if they did examples from actual games then it would set a president for the forthcoming season

There is always going to be human error by the ref/linesman with the offside rule however clearly it's defined, disagreeing with the officials decsisions is part of football though and something which I think makes the game more interesting.

did examples to who?

you know those ridiculous press conferences they do, one of them to highlight the offside rules

to be honest, if anyone was at fault it was henry.

why one of the worlds best strikers is 5 yards offside in such a position is beyond me. even sunday league strikers know the importance of being onside  :-))(

mmmm, that's funny cuz i'm from west swindon and i support Swindon. so do 2 of my other mates, and hardly anyone there supports Spurs.

 :wink:

what i meant was who are you trying to educate by giving such examples?

what i mean is you're hardly graham poll are you?

it's a stupid wanky law. that is all.

fuck graham poll, i always saw myself as being the new collina

I hope someone snaps both Essiens legs, the dirty french speaking cunt

He will contract Malaria at the African Cup of Nations

everyone! teach the world to read off the same sheet!

I HAVE A DREAM, LET US JOIN ARMS WITH OUR AFRICAN COUSINS AND WATCH THE EXAMPLES AND ALL GO AWAY WITH A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE OFFSIDE LAW ACTUALLY MEANS ONCE AND FOR ALL orrrrrr atleast until they change it again. amen

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41175000/jpg/_41175138_essien2-getty220.jpg
"Michael Essien hobbles off after being caught by Nigel Reo-Coker to deal Chelsea an early blow"

 8)  Well done Nigel.

That's a shame. Hope he's not seriously injured, Ghana were my tip for the african nations cup but I don't know now. I think it's harsh to celebrate a player being injured unless they are a total cunt, Essien isn't.

Paybacks a bitch isnt it!  :mrgreen:

FUCKING ACE!!!!! one of my mates is reo's cousin! i tihnk i might end up at upton park a few times this year

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST FOULS I'VE EVER SEEN.

plus how the fuck do you defend yourself against geremi's flailing arms/elbows?!

i say chop the cunts arms off*
 :evil:

(*those aren't the exact words i used)

deserves it!  8)

I literally laughed when I saw that challenge. The twat deserves everything that comes to him.
He has done that kind of thing twice ON PURPOSE this year so I am glad he got his payback.

Harsh to be so happy, but as they say what comes around goes around....

I was just about to say that!!!! that keeps on happenin to me recently.....
Oh well i will say this instead, everyone always gets their comeuppance  :wink:

To be honest the challenge on Essien was nastier than most of Essien's easily. Now it seems he'll be out for the African nations cup which is a real shame, my Ghanian mate will be gutted. He's not that dirty a player, the one in the champions league against Liverpool was the only one that should've been a sending off and he certainly doesn't deserve this.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  didnt see the one on Ben Haim then!?. I hope you didnt otherwise your gonna look stupid.

Ok so two bad challenges, I remember seeing Cantona stamping on John Moncur, he was still a great player. Shearer is a really dirty player but no-one seems to care.

Yeah, but he isn't black is he

i hate shearer with a passion if that makes you feel any better?  :D

I think that must be it village.  :shake: No-one gives us blacks a chance.

yup me two.

i'd like to add a cliche if i may

"you reap what you sew"

That Grimsby player should have won sports personality for offering Shearer out.  8)

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I'm a Shearer hater, and that made me laugh!!!

Just me who likes Shearer then  :D

i hope so, his wife and kids should feel slightly attached to him but not too much...boring bald cunt

one hell of a footballer though.....

he was but for a few years he's been losing his pace and is just turning into a thug.

i say put him down now!!

let whittle do it! we could watch it on tv :D

I hope Frank Warren comes on here  :box:

anyone else amused by terry going mental that essien was sent off for elbowing kenny miller in the chops?

It's the Prmiershit...they seem to feel obliged to contest every single decision a referee makes. Pisses me off, especially when its as ridiculous as that!

and essien is appealing it...it defies logic

I think Essien could do a job for us as player-coach.

What compo would chelski ask for?

a lot stevey, a lot