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About the St Georges Cross with 'born in England ,Live in England ,Die In England' on it.

How is that Racist?

Fucking twats gone right down in my estimation.

Change the England for Scotland or Brazil and no one would say a thing.Sadly the flag did used to be associated with the far right but these days its been reclaimed by the masses.

Allen your a tosser.

That's a strange one, i'd have thought he'd be a patriotic man...

Apparentely it's the motto of the BNP.  Which is why it offended those Brentford players of colour.  I was wondering what the fuss was about until I heard that.

Didnt know that either.

this country is fucked, white white white is right!

i might get zeig heil tattooed across my afro caribbean body.
that will put the cat amongst the pigeons.

that is quality...paddy would be so proud!

'Born in England ,Live in England ,Die In England'

What a rediculously racist statement.   :nuts:








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All its saying is that people should be proud of their country
At no point does it say that it is bad to come from somewhere else.

I see why people may be offended, but if I saw that in, say, Italy, I wouldn't be offended by it personally

Whats racist about that Allen you cunt?.

I was born in England, i live in England & i will die in England....fuck im a racist.  :shock:

I might yet die in France.  Ooh how cosmopolitan. :wink:

Just make sure you dont bring any Euros back.  :evil:

i thought Martin Allen was the sort of person who would applaud that?

I  can uderstand offence at the flag if it  was the BNP motto or has racist connetations, but I don't think it does.

in america they have things like that everywhere and no one gives a shit but as soon as we do it here it's racist! grrr makes me angry!  :evil:

i can sense your angry rich..grrrrr.

I don't know whether this is racist...but At the end of the day this is england and that statement did'nt say anything offensive on it about people from other religions/countrys did it?
What annoyed me slightly though, I heard somewhere that people are thinking of banning christmas decorations from schools as it offends other children from other religions. Why should we change our ways, for people who chose to live here from other countries? anyway thats a completely different discussion  :wink:

What a cunt.

My local has a banner with that in maybe i should make a complaint. If you dont like it, dont read it you black cunts, or maybe that should be afro cunts blah blah.

Fans compalined it was offensive? What total bollocks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4496928.stm

Brilliant plan like, but how are they going to know they don't like it until they've read it?  Perhaps we could make all black players to avert their eyes from the St. Georges Cross as a mark of respect, then we could write what we want.

Its our culture and our country we'll have what the fuck we want on our flags.

I'm pretty sure that motto has nothing to do with the bnp, so I can't understand why it should offend anyone.

Cheltenham fans once sang 'town full of racists' to Oldham - which is ever so slightly different from everyone elses version - and although niave in the liberal pap style I'm sure those spa town fraggles meant it in, it's actually quite true.  Town full of white racists and brown racists :nod:

Again a good idea, now we just have to work out what our culture is.  How far should we go back do you think?  It'd definately have to be before the empire as that caused a whole load of cultural mixing, but I think going back to Germany might be stretching it a little far.  I'm thinking sometime in Edward I's reign (after he'd expelled the Jews of course).

If it is the motto of the BNP and Oldham being the home to many active voting BNP supporters, I don't see any problems with the complaint.

What is totally P.C. gone mad, is the reports that councils in the South of England had banned Union Jacks/St. George Cross from being put up in windows during either the last World Cup or Euros for reasons regarding other Non-British residents

Culture is about a way of life, not about a history book.

So where do you think our culture comes from and is formed?  The past that's where.  We have adopted parts of other cultures for centuries, whether it be French, German, African, Indian.  I love my country immensely, and I feel some people abuse the priviledge of being English.


Goodnight :boring:

I couldn't find that motto in the BNP website  but I did find a load of magical nonsense - it's got to be read to be believed!

I thought the mainstream political parties were insane

What next - Winterville instead of christmas?

Fucking political correctness bollocks, surely it's more patronising to other cultures to ban these  things. Do I give a fuck if Hindus want to celebrate Diwali, or Muslims celebrate Ramadan? No I fucking don't! Do I care if they show their religious flags at sporting events or otherwise. No I fucking don't! It's a two way street, other cultures are just as bothered as my own. It's just a minority that pansy around trying ever so desperately to avoid treading on egg shells.

The whole PC bollocks is brought about by local councils who are generally infested with this type of nonsense.  My dad did some work for a council organisation where they had a huge argument about what was politically correct to put on the women's loos.........they settled for wimmin.

Certain aspects of the left-wing are completely detached from reality :nuts:   As much as I think Mark Steele is an unfunny cunt, Reasons To Be Cheerful gave a brilliant insight into what lunatics they are.  For instance a group he was in had to choose two people to represent them and they decided one should be a woman(and only the women were allowed to vote so the men didn't intimidate them), the other black.  Unfortunately there was only one black bloke and he didn't want to do it :soapy tit wank:


Other times I'm sure some cunt's doing it on purpose to provoke us :run:

Good point, most Muslims couldnt actually care if we put up Xmas decorations cos they are not the ones making the decisions, its the pricks in local councils who think Muslims will be offended.

I love dill!

i heard that Happy Xmas wasnt allowed in some towns but Happy Diwali is !! MADNESS!

Apparently on Bonfre night we were allowed to let Fireworks off up until 11pm which is the law, but for Diwali they were allowed to go up until 1am.  :?

I think Allen should think before he speaks.

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Lets all email that to the Brentford chairman and complain about his Nazi salute.  :mrgreen:

Id agree with that actually.

Incorrect that is about hertiage.

I dont wear Swindon shirts because my French ancesstors (sp) did i wear it as its part of my culture being a football fan. I also get drunk because it is part of modern culture not because the saxons or whoever did.

Sounds like a plan!

I agree that people are going over the top with being PC. They say they want a multi-cultural society, but ban Chrsitian celebratory decoratoins, and bend the rules for Hindus but not people from this country celebrating an event that is part of English history.

Bloody hypocrits!

Look pal, what I'm trying to say is that this great country of ours has had more influence from abroad than probably any other nation on earth, and that is one of the things that makes us so special.  Most people don't even realise that.

I'm not even going to explain my views as that would take too long and I've bored everyone enough, but I have reasons behind my beliefs and I'm not some 'let 'em all in' 'why can't we all just get along' prick.

Now don't say black cunt and think you're being clever eh :wink:






'...and if, you know, the history, it's enough to make your heart go ooh ooH oOH OOH' :smile1:

Heritage is history surely? Without past events, how is a tradition formed? I do agree that people's views/values/perceptions change with time but you cannot argue against history. Regardless how our culture was formed, it relies on past events.

Henry Ford once said "history is more or less bunk", yet he made history himself and without that history, technology wouldn't be what it is today. It's the same with culture.

The only issue I can see with the St. George's Cross is that St. George was tortured and executed for confessing to be Christian. This religious issue seems irrelevant now as it was the Roman's who tortured and executed George, but it has made what the cross is today and therefore the history has become the heritage.