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Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 06:27:49
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4472600.stm


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 10:00:29
hip injury isn't it. (didn't go on the link) didn't do much on the aparant 'spinners wicket' anyway.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 11:47:14
Ian Blackwell called up though.  :P


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Nils on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 11:58:49
Shame cos he can bowl his 10 overs very economically and he can take a few wickets in the process.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 12:13:52
Quote from: "Nils"
Shame cos he can bowl his 10 overs very economically and he can take a few wickets in the process.


Yep agree with that, he's very good at bringing the economy down.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Boeta on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 14:34:44
pretty big blow but everyone knew two weeks ago that he wouldn't make the ODI series. there's probably a case for 'resting' him for the 3rd Test and bringing in Anderson or Plunkett. look forward to seeing if blackwell has improved enough to cope at the highest level this time around


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 17:55:39
Quote from: "blinkpip"
Ian Blackwell called up though.  :P


 :D blackers!!


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:05:35
Has blackwell lost any weight yet?, or is he still a fat fuck?.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:06:54
Blackwell is a poor player. bad choice England! he has had his chance at international level but blew it! he's no more than a county player


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:08:14
Quote from: "Rich"
Blackwell is a poor player. bad choice England! he has had his chance at international level but blew it! he's no more than a county player


Agree with that, looked way below average on previous outings. How many more times will we go back to players who havent performed?.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:13:04
the selection seems to be going back towards the days of mike atherton's captaincy again. the wont play Cook in the third test to replace strauss becuase he has no experience! they would rather play paul collingwood who i think is only a useful player in the limited overs form of the game


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:18:01
Quote from: "Rich"
the selection seems to be going back towards the days of mike atherton's captaincy again. the wont play Cook in the third test to replace strauss becuase he has no experience! they would rather play paul collingwood who i think is only a useful player in the limited overs form of the game


Which is stupid cos you cant get experience if your just going to be sitting in the stand.

The same goes for Min Patel who i heard was on standby to replace Giles. Im pretty sure he's played for England before?.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:19:36
he has Spuddy. again another player who for me can perform well at county level but is a let down when making the step up.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Boeta on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:19:42
Quote from: "Rich"
the selection seems to be going back towards the days of mike atherton's captaincy again. the wont play Cook in the third test to replace strauss becuase he has no experience! they would rather play paul collingwood who i think is only a useful player in the limited overs form of the game

Collingwood's dead set shit but Cook hasn't played a game since September so you can hardly expect Fletcher to pick him to make his Test debut next week

There's nothing wrong with dropping players and then bringing them back. Ponting, Hayden, Langer, Martyn were all dropped by Aus in the 90s and then brought back. Blackwell isn't in there class but I'm happy to see how he goes this time


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:24:04
Quote from: "Boeta"
Quote from: "Rich"
the selection seems to be going back towards the days of mike atherton's captaincy again. the wont play Cook in the third test to replace strauss becuase he has no experience! they would rather play paul collingwood who i think is only a useful player in the limited overs form of the game

Collingwood's dead set shit but Cook hasn't played a game since September so you can hardly expect Fletcher to pick him to make his Test debut next week

There's nothing wrong with dropping players and then bringing them back. Ponting, Hayden, Langer, Martyn were all dropped by Aus in the 90s and then brought back. Blackwell isn't in there class but I'm happy to see how he goes this time


But the difference is they're world class batsmen, Blackwell or Collingwood arent.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 18:25:52
if your not going to give the young players a chance and play 35 year olds then your not going to win games. we've blooded youth over the last 2 years and its paid off. we dont want to go back to the old days of being the worst side in the world


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 21:47:41
blackwell last season in the totesport league and twenty 20 was brilliant. as a somerset fan, and seen him play many times last season, he definitely has the quality for one day cricket.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Saturday, November 26, 2005, 23:57:41
Quote from: "Johno"
blackwell last season in the totesport league and twenty 20 was brilliant. as a somerset fan, and seen him play many times last season, he definitely has the quality for one day cricket.


Yes he has the quality for the Totesport league but International level is a big step up which i dont think he's good enough for.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Boeta on Sunday, November 27, 2005, 02:01:03
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "Boeta"
Quote from: "Rich"
the selection seems to be going back towards the days of mike atherton's captaincy again. the wont play Cook in the third test to replace strauss becuase he has no experience! they would rather play paul collingwood who i think is only a useful player in the limited overs form of the game

Collingwood's dead set shit but Cook hasn't played a game since September so you can hardly expect Fletcher to pick him to make his Test debut next week

There's nothing wrong with dropping players and then bringing them back. Ponting, Hayden, Langer, Martyn were all dropped by Aus in the 90s and then brought back. Blackwell isn't in there class but I'm happy to see how he goes this time


But the difference is they're world class batsmen, Blackwell or Collingwood arent.

I agree but Blackwell is good enough to be an effective ODI player. When Aus dropped that lot they obviously didn't think they were good enough but they turned out a bit alright.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Sunday, November 27, 2005, 02:54:08
But Australian Cricket at County level is much much stronger than ours, they could drop a few of them and replace them with Hussey,Hodge etc and loads more.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Sunday, November 27, 2005, 16:44:25
blackwell for england!  :beers:


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Sunday, November 27, 2005, 19:10:35
Quote from: "Johno"
blackwell for england!  :beers:


Boooooooo!  :|


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: larwood on Monday, November 28, 2005, 08:00:56
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we dont want to go back to the old days of being the worst side in the world

Not very likely to happen with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe around :-))( .
Blackwell has played well for Somerset so he's due another chance,but the thing that always concerned me about him was his commitment and his fittness.Whereas K.O.S and the other contracted players all train hard,you just suspect Blackwell isn't as prepared to work both on and off the pitch.Hopefully he'll prove me wrong :)


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Monday, November 28, 2005, 18:03:00
I saw Ian blackwell when i went to the Engand Vs NZ ODI 1 year ago in Bristol.

I was on my way to the pisser and i saw some bloke in the training gear and it turned out be him, he actually looks fatter than he does on tv.  :|


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Monday, November 28, 2005, 18:05:01
just because he's big don't mean he can't play cricket spud. stupidest thing ive heard.


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Monday, November 28, 2005, 18:25:40
Quote from: "Johno"
just because he's big don't mean he can't play cricket spud. stupidest thing ive heard.


But ive seen him play for England.  :roll:


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Monday, November 28, 2005, 22:24:52
yes, you have. not saying you haven't  :soapy tit wank: but i think giving him a chance would be very benefitical. if it don't work, then does it matter that much!?


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Mace on Monday, November 28, 2005, 23:05:48
I think the problem is, that if its not Blackwell then who?

To be honest we have very limited spin options, its a shame Pieterson has given up the bowling side of his game, that would take a bit of pressure off whoever we went with for the one dayers. Vaughans a big turner of the ball but unlike Giles, he is always going to offer something to someone who wants to go after him!


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, November 29, 2005, 00:07:34
Quote from: "Johno"
yes, you have. not saying you haven't  :soapy tit wank: but i think giving him a chance would be very benefitical. if it don't work, then does it matter that much!?


And if he fails again do you think they should stick with him?. :roll:


Title: King Of Spain to miss One Day series
Post by: Johno on Tuesday, November 29, 2005, 16:40:42
depends how he does....can't say now.