Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 12:23:02 http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~741881,00.html
Its freshing to see that he takes the blame. Quote Its just one of those things- we jsut didn't do it. As the manager I take full responsibility for them- its my team and those players playing my tactics so I take responsibility for that. Its freshing that a manager is blaming the players on the pitch where we al lknow its them on the pitch's fault. Well done Iffy I salute you.[/quote][/b] Title: Re: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 12:26:15 Quote from: "stfcfan" Its freshing that a manager is blaming the players on the pitch where we al lknow its them on the pitch's fault [/b][/quote]You what? You what? etc :DTitle: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 12:34:47 It's a pretty short interview, I'm not really a fan of Iffy's interviews, standard manager cliche's really, at least they're better than Jimmy Quinn's. : :boring:
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 12:43:20 It's surprising really as his column's were quite witting. His interviews, like BWB says, are pretty tame to say the least.
And judging by the caps he and Woanie have been sporting recently it looks like they've got some free clubs out of his new role, which is nice for them. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 12:51:26 I think he's just being professional in front of the media.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 12:53:08 I liked his columns, shame he doesn't go off on one like that in his interviews. :D
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 13:32:59 At least he did the interview. Looking at some of the top managers they would get their assisstant to do it after a drubbing like that. It wasn't the longest of interviews but what else is there to say? It would be patronising to the fans to say much else.
Title: Re: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spud on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 15:21:55 Quote from: "stfcfan" http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~741881,00.html [/b][/quote]Its freshing to see that he takes the blame. Quote Its just one of those things- we jsut didn't do it. As the manager I take full responsibility for them- its my team and those players playing my tactics so I take responsibility for that. Its freshing that a manager is blaming the players on the pitch where we al lknow its them on the pitch's fault. Well done Iffy I salute you. Bloody hell the previous manager never took responsibility for his poor tactical konwledge etc :roll: Title: Re: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: my-velocity on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 18:57:47 Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC" Quote from: "stfcfan" http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~741881,00.html [/b]Its freshing to see that he takes the blame. Quote Its just one of those things- we jsut didn't do it. As the manager I take full responsibility for them- its my team and those players playing my tactics so I take responsibility for that. Its freshing that a manager is blaming the players on the pitch where we al lknow its them on the pitch's fault. Well done Iffy I salute you. Bloody hell the previous manager never took responsibility for his poor tactical konwledge etc :roll:[/quote] Yeah Iffy's interviews are well understood bythe fans and can make alot of sense, unlike AK's Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:25:57 Ben, Im an the end of my tether on this one. Did you actually prefer Kings warble and contradictions opposed to someone who can actually put a sentance together?
Kings interviews were a joke. He came across as a fuckwit who wasnt sure if he was here there or halfway into next week. :roll: Give me strength Ben. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:26:21 Ak's were witty and entertaining unlike Iffy's.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:26:59 It's all a big joke. I bet BWB hated King more than anyone :D
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:31:33 Wit WIT, WIT!!!!!!!!!!??????
Entertaining if you enjoyed the club being made to look like a circus. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: unclemark on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:35:19 I seem to remember one of Kingy's interviews, it was something like this "I am them and they are me, know what I mean?"
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:35:42 what a bloddy shambles last night was. Iffy playing Jack Smith iin centre midfield? sounds like King's old tricks to me :-))(
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: adje on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:35:44 what do you say after losing 4-1 to boston
it was a good, honest interview and refreshing ....arise sir iffy the honourable. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:38:30 You have to admit King is second only to Ian Holloway for the funniest manager.
I mean come on their centre-half's gone down more times than my missus :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: -- comedy genius and there were gems like that all the time. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:47:04 At the expense of some other cunting club, thank you.
It was hillarious, in between the slagging off Ifil / demonising The Town End / Pouring pity upon himself / looking like a fool with the rediculous hyperbole / contradicting yourself every 2 minutes. For every gem was 25 minutes of nonsensical fingers down blackboard tripe, with interjections of Sean Hodgetts saying erm, uh and OK. In a word. Fuckwit. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:50:45 Personally I much prefer a manager who says exactly what they mean and isn't scared to say what they think rather than one who says what they think fans want to hear but not what they think.
Ifil actually got as much praise as criticism. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 19:59:14 Say what he thinks? Andy King didnt know what he was thinking himself. It was different at 4.55pm, 5.05pm and 5.15pm. You could take any quote you wanted off an Andy King interview.
As a football club you need to fight on ONE front. Andy King created more divisions than the San Andreas fault line through throw away comments that should never have been said. Andy Kings interviews were the thing I most disliked about Andy King. They are what turned me against Andy King. Title: Re: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Elsterap on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:11:16 Quote Its just one of those things- we just didn't do it. As the manager I take full responsibility for them- its my team and those players playing my tactics so I take responsibility for that. Might be an unpopular view - but does anyone else think he is trying to win over the fans by showing that he is much better than King by making himself the complete opposite of what AK used to say. Iffy's interview is a bit of an overreaction isnt it. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:12:35 I don't agree, his interview style was a refreshing change from the 98% of managers who are unbelievaby dull. Most of the throwaway comments were nothing, they were just blown out of proportion and taken completely out of context.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:18:40 BOLLOCKS! If anything he got away with loads of stuff that he should have been sacked for! The Adver did an excellent job of picking the more positive stuff.
Even Reg was saying he should have been sacked after the Southend LDV interview. Never heard anything like it. The blokes interviews were not acceptable. Dont try and justify or play down some of the things he said. In years gone by they were sackable offenses every last one. That was before a proud club could be held to ransom by a fool like King. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:34:42 In my opinion King never said anything that should be a sackable offence or even close to it, the one thing that came across in his interviews was passion for football and passion for his job and you could tell how disappointed he was after any defeat and how genuinely thrilled on the good runs. So he said a few things on the spur of the moment, I didn't have a problem with that, showed he cared.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:39:07 Again, delusion.
In hitting out time and time again King showed how he cared about himself a lot more than the good of the club. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:48:18 No way, just showed the criticism was hard to take and it's hardly surprising, the amount of shit he got considering what he achieved with so little was ridiculous.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:55:34 There's only one Andy King
King for England :king: Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:56:27 Sewed the seeds a long time ago. Your talking what was said in the aftermath of the Scum FA Cup game. Very nasty/childish/vindictive/unnecessary.
Fair play he did achieve after that. But if you turn people against you........ The knives will always be out. After what was said, he did extremely well to survive for so long into our biggest loosing streak ever in the football league. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 20:59:48 I don't think King achieved that much tbh. He brought in some good players (and some bad ones) and given the resources this was brilliant. He did a very good job at keeping us up, although not much else
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:02:04 This is a debate about Kings interviews, not his tenure as a whole.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:04:20 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Sewed the seeds a long time ago. Your talking what was said in the aftermath of the Scum FA Cup game. Very nasty/childish/vindictive/unnecessary. Fair play he did achieve after that. But if you turn people against you........ The knives will always be out. After what was said he did well to survive for so long in our biggest loosing streak ever in the football league. The biggest losing streak wasn't under King though. You're right about the knives always being out but I though it was harsh, I don't think a lot of people appreciate just how well we did in 2003/2004, that was an outstanding season with the resources we had (or lack of) and as far as I'm concerned it should've been a clean slate after that but i accept football doesn't work like that. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:05:15 It's about Iffy's interview if we're being pedantic.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:14:05 Which became a very good discussion about the differing interview techniques of current previous managers and will not become a very stale/boring/done to death discussion about the pro's and cons of Andy King.
Im not going to get into the in's and outs of the bad runs either. You know what I think of those. King never apologised or ever accepted that he had contributed to the ill feeling between himself and a large proportion of our fans. He just concluded that he had never been accepted because he hadnt played for the club. So given Kings stance how could any line be drawn? I was in the majority in the middle ground who were quite prepared to stick with King if he was taking us places, whilst accepting that he could be a reactionary divisive overly emotional tosser given a bit of hot air and a microphone. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Asher on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:20:37 Spencr is spot on here, king dug his own grave never turn on fans
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:29:05 Quote from: "Asher" Spencr is spot on here, king dug his own grave never turn on fans weren't we to blame according to him? Some of the games stick into mind such as that Cheltenham game :x Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, November 17, 2005, 21:31:21 any manager who blames the fans really doesn't have a clue.
king was a disaster for this club in terms of image and public relations, i can't see how anyone can argue with that. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spud on Friday, November 18, 2005, 06:11:49 Quote from: "sonicyouth" any manager who blames the fans really doesn't have a clue. king was a disaster for this club in terms of image and public relations, i can't see how anyone can argue with that. Exactly!, good point. 8) Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, November 18, 2005, 06:28:32 Quote from: "stfcfan" Quote from: "Asher" Spencr is spot on here, king dug his own grave never turn on fans weren't we to blame according to him? Some of the games stick into mind such as that Cheltenham game :x Just out of interest, that Cheltenham game was my first Town game for about 6 or 7 years (Uddersfield away with McMahon playing 8 across the back and me sitting next to Chris Hay's dad when our fickle fans were giving the kid a hard time being the previous game I attended). Surprisingly enough, it was my last too ! NMH Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: adje on Friday, November 18, 2005, 17:53:10 King's interviews would have been amusing were he from another club.As a Town fan,I found them a fucking embarrassment.
Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: PHIL!!!! on Friday, November 18, 2005, 18:00:46 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" It's a pretty short interview, I'm not really a fan of Iffy's interviews, standard manager cliche's really, at least they're better than Jimmy Quinn's. : :boring: At least they are better than Andy King's, more like. His were terrible and he lowered the confidence of each and every Town player. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Friday, November 18, 2005, 18:12:10 Quote from: "PHIL!!!!" Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" It's a pretty short interview, I'm not really a fan of Iffy's interviews, standard manager cliche's really, at least they're better than Jimmy Quinn's. : :boring: At least they are better than Andy King's, more like. They're not though. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spud on Friday, November 18, 2005, 18:15:26 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Quote from: "PHIL!!!!" Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" It's a pretty short interview, I'm not really a fan of Iffy's interviews, standard manager cliche's really, at least they're better than Jimmy Quinn's. : :boring: At least they are better than Andy King's, more like. They're not though. I think they're as he can take criticism unlike King. Title: iffy's Reaction from last night Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, November 18, 2005, 18:17:08 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" They're not though. You'll have to do better than that! |