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I rekon it will be a typical dull England game ending 1-1 with Crouch getting the equalizer

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Don't care [ even though its against the Argies],its a pointless friendly that we will probably  lose.

4-0 to the argies simple as

England 2-4 Argentina

I'm going, and I can't wait !!  The only thing thats ever happened in Geneva !

I think there will be goals, especially if we put James in goal - I reckon we'll be 2-0 up at half time, then James wil come on second half, let in 3 straight after the interval.  Then Rooney will go bonkers, getting the equaliser and getting sent off for celebrating.  Then Peter Crouch will somehow manage to get the winner in the dying seconds when his shot from 6 yards hits the post, then rebounds in off his face.

You heard it here first !

13-0 england, as same as the ladies against Hungary.  :soapy tit wank:

I've come up with a song for the match, to the tune of Harry Belafonte's classic the Banana Boat Song.  Not sure if I can get anyone to sing it, but quite proud actually - think I missed my vocation in life.

Dieeeego !  Dieeeego !
Diego's come but he ought to go home
Dieeeego !  Dieeeego !
Diego's come but he ought to go home

Come on Mr. Dealer man, sell to Maradona
Diego's come but he ought to go home
It gave him a heart attack, perhaps he'll have another
Diego's come but he ought to go home

6 lines, 7 pies, before lunch !
Diego's come but he ought to go home
short arsed, cheating, fat f*cking C*NT !
Diego's come but he ought to go home


The travelling support is behind the goal.  Look out for a Swindon scarf in the corner to their left, row 6.  Thats if I get up in time after watching the REAL match tonight on glorious Sky Xtra.

i didn't even know this game was happening...

We will lose. 0-0 at half time, 11changes at HT and then we lose 3-0 FT.

I think it will be a good game but people will say it's dull because they always do, Crouchy will probably play very well but still get moaned at by fools.

Didn't they reduce the amount of subs that are allowed to be made in a friendly?

Fucking cracking game so far, Rooney has been outstanding, very unlucky to miss when it looke like a certain before, some incredible runs and a goal.

Would like to see Cole, Wright-Phillips and Crouch all come on in the second half and no reason why we can't win this.

Haven't watched, I'll probably see the second half though.

I don't really give a shit, even if it is the Bargies. Not after last night.

Wayne Bridge has been appauling for me. He's constantly out of position and was directly responsible for both their goal.

I can't understand how someone who has played so little 1st team football can be picked to start an international game like this.

I still don't understand why it is being played in Geneva? Even England v Germany isn't played there!

I agree, I felt sorry for him though, he's been out so long and hasn't got enough big match experience behind him since he's come back to prepare him for this match.

It's a friendly. He's our only decent left sided defender available. I have no beef for sven picking him

what a fucking shit goal to concede :shock:

i thouhgt it was quite good  :?

what a bollocks game this is!stopped watching it as ive fallen asleep twice!! :boring:  :shake:

The rugby was much more exciting. Not being a natural rugby fan that says alot

Get the fuck in. In-ger-lund!

Gwaaaaaaaaaan, oi, oi ,oi !!!!!!!!!!!

fucking brilliant. Top game for a friendly  :D

Owen makes it 3-2. What the fuck happened?

really pissed on my bonfire!! :oops:

Are you having a fucking laugh?????!!!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Were you even watching? Come on admit it, you didn't watch did you?

That was the best friendly I've ever seen ever! Fucking incredible game!

Of course 2-1 down, bring on Crouchy and win 3-2! Crouch set up that shot for Rooney and caused massive problems for Argentina whoich certainly helped England score both goals.

Fucking great footballing weekend. Swindon beat city and England beat the argies. :beers:  :beers:  :beers:  :beers:

Crouch is quite clearly the best player in the world.

He just tore apart Argentina all on his own

 I'd stick with the egg chasing in the future.

 The way the Crouchmeister, propelled Owen into the ball,  was top quality.

That was the best game of football I've seen in ages - loads of chances with end to end football.

Fact is dv, he had an undeniable impact on the game. He worries defences, Rooney was unlucky not to get a goal from Crouchys deft touch. and then just having Crouchy in the box Argentian were clearly shitting it, if Owen hadn't have got a touch for the winner Crouchy would've got it.

fact is, I didnt watch it and really dont care to be honest

Fair enough, you missed one hell of a game but I'll bear that in mind when ignoring any future criticism's of Crouchy.

Crouch didn't really DO anything though Ben...

He was only on 10 minutes Dave.

The thing about Crouchy is he has to do 10 times as much as any other player just to be recognised as even having a decent game.

Owen was pretty anonymous for most of the match but got the goals at the end.

Beckham didn't really do anything special.

Crouchy set up a great chance for Rooney which was very nearly a goal and then the winner was almost a combined Owen Crouchy effort. Samuel was trying to mark Crouchy, as I believe he was for the first goal.

I don't think it's coincidence that we scored two goals in the 10 minutes he was on at all. You could see the Argentinian defence were worried by him, he just causes different problems from the rest of our strikers, he's a different type of threat and that can change games - that's one thing we need at the world cup. Crouchy on the bench.

It was one of the best friendlies ever.  :)

Absolutely quality game! I was going mental when Owen got the winner! :beers:

Ben, fair enough, but don;t you DARE try and credit the winner to Crouch... he nearly cost Owen a simple header with his bambi-on-ice attempt

He seemed to dive into Owen rather than the ball, then landed flat on his belly

Dave that's bollocks, Owen wouldn't have scored it without Crouch being there but I reckon Crouchy would've scored it if Owen wasn't there.

Agreed  :)

England 1-2 Argies

Peter Crouch 2-0 Argies

Yes..... :beers:

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Come on believe, we were losing when we came on then won. Lets not get mixed up by the fact he didnt score either goal and Owen got them both, it was all down to Crouch that victory. Premiership golden boot awaits, followed by the World Cup golden boot and a 56million transfer to Real Madrid.

Best player in the world, I think so.....better than Pele

Odviously he didn't win it on his own but would we have won if Crouchy hadn't been introduced? Personally I don't think we would.

That's 3 examples of games recently Crouchy has come on and then the games have been won with him on the field when his team weren't winning when he came on.

England - Poland
Liverpool - Aston villa
England - Argentina

To claim it's a coincidence is short-sighted, Crouchy helped to change and win all of those games.

Anyone who thinks Crouchy got in Owen's way rather than helped him to score just needs to pay more attention.

crouch is still learning, and even he admitted that siting on the bench helps him to learn from the more experienced players, who have many caps for england. i think hes good for club and  for country      :D

Experience is something that can only be gained in time, and Crouch is very young.

Glad to see England won, even though I missed the game through work.

And I swear I will never come on here when drunk again. It is wayyyyy too hard to type!

ha ha ha  :D

Dv, you're taking an extremely simplistic view and I'm not surprised you didn't watch the game, you must've barely watched Crouchy at all.

So you're trying to make out that because Crouchy didn't score that the victory has nothing to do with him. Well that's simply nonsense and you'd surely realise that if you'd seen the game.

 If you can recognise that David Duke was a better player for us than he was given credit for, which is a fair point but not accept that Crouchy is a better player than he's given credit for then you've clearly got an agenda against Crouchy and won't ever give him credit.

Nobody is saying he's better than Pele or worth £50 million but he is definitely good enough to be on the bench for England at the 2006 world cup, he proved that today. He had exactly the desired effect when he came on and situations like today where we're losing or drawing towards the end of the game are exactly what we need him for. Sven made the right decision picking Crouchy in the squad and bringing him on, though he left that a bit late. You wouldn't bring on Defoe because he's not really going to cause any different problems to Owen. There's nothing about Defoe that will scare the Argentinian defence too much and that's coming from a Spurs fan, you bring on Crouchy because he can scare them. He can make things happen.

Yes we were losing when he came on then and we won and yes Crouchy played a part in both goals, this happens every week. You keep believing it's a coincedence, you keep believing the superb touch that set up Rooney was a fluke, just like the one that set up Gerrard last week and you keep being wrong.

I didnt read any of that, because well the post you quoted was me just being a twat. I did however watch a re-run of the game this morning.

Crouch did help Owen score, as he was what was between Owen and the defender.

Fair enough at least you recognise that. :nod:

i phoned you at 11.30 and you were fine....not drunk!

i don't know if this has been discussed already, but how good was riquelme? touch of a master

Looked amazing! If rumours are to be believed, could be on his way to England during the transfer window.....would love to see him in the Premiership after that performance

He was class, dont think ive seen a better midfield performance.

Migz Friday performance was close though.  :mrgreen:

Oh well,can't get them all right :-))(  :) .The trouble is now of course is that instead of everyone being too negative everyone is too positive,just because we beat the argies it doesn't mean we are going to win the world cup people.

lads, lasses - you should have been there.  

No one has mentioned it here, but Joe Cole was fantastic when he came on.  

We clearly miss Ashley Cole though, Konchesky did OK when he came on, was probably at fault for their second, but really the Rgies were very scary when they went forward down the right - if only because of their haircuts.  

Rio Ferdinands flying kick + elbow 6 foot inside our penalty area in the second half surprised the Argie so much that he didn't hink anyone would be that stupid and had no time to dive - likewise Beckam's little short pass a cross the goal mouth which was a perfect pass to the oppo had they realised.  

Owen, as ever completely anonymous, then takes his chances.  I think Crouch did have a part to play, especially the last goal when he basically picked up Owen and chucked him at the ball rugby line out stylee.  We cheered him when he was warming up, and he looked genuinly surprised, poor lad.

Was basically sitting on our goal line second half - the one that Robinson stopped on the line, looked to me to be well over the line - great refereeeing !!

Since its the only thing that has actually happened in Geneva since the beginning of time, it was always going to be a good evening.  Although the Swiss did try their best to make a balls up of it:

No signposts telling you which gate to go in to get you your seat - and no one inside fucking well knew either !  Missed the kick off along with about 5,000 other fans who were randomly running around, jumping barriers etc. trying to find a way in.  The Swiss are basically very proud of themselves that their organisation prevented a riot - which probably would never had hapened, but if you do that for Euro 2008 and had 5,000 German and Dutch outside all together because they couldn't work out how to segregate them, there would have been trouble.  Also, the ground only holds 30,000 - I suspect it is too small for a tournament ground.

Sat next to a fairly tasty Argentinian bird with a big mouth - wasn't very pleased with me when I photographed her at the end looking miserable !

Sounds like you had a great time, i'm more than a little jealous :mrgreen:  :beers:

Wish I had been there ... as it was watching it at home was fantastic ... shame it was only a friendly and not the world cup :beers:

Here's two pictures that show the part Crouchy played in the winner.

As you can see Crouchy is supporting Owen and also preventing Samuel from challenging for the header, he's too concerned with trying to pull Crouchy back allowing Owen to get a free header which he scored with Crouchy's help, absolutely no chance Owen would've got that goal if Crouchy hadn't been there.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41012000/jpg/_41012624_owen2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/2hats/engwinner.jpg

Rooney agrees with me:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4434698.stm

You try and tell me that that is costing Owen a simple header Dave,  it's the exact opposite Crouchy is the reason Owen had the simple header.

Also, Riquelme and Rooney were equally outstanding. Both key players for thier country's at next years world cup.

disagree. owen wouldn't have scored otherwise.

Further to the Crouchmeister skillfully guiding Owen to make the winning header,  I debated down the pub the as to whether there is anything in the laws of the game, aside from ungentlemanly conduct, to prevent someone lifting another player line out style....or perhaps a player sitting on another's shoulders in a defensive wall.

 I argued since its never been done to my knowledge there must be some law which is contravened, and assumed it to be deemed ungentlemanly conduct.

 Anybody know?

Im not a Crouch fan .. but it has to be said the Argies shit themselves when he came on

I thought he did OK, but from where I was sitting it looked that in his desperation to score he nearly flattened Owen as he went for the winner.

For once yes I know  :beers:   .......sort of  :?
It was added as an amendment to the section of rules including using your arms to unfairly gain height in an aerial challenge.
Lifting by another player is covered by the same section of rules (as 9.3.2.1.B.ii.c or something)

Strangely it is not illegal to be lifted by a player from the opposition - unless they dump you on the floor (dangerous play)

It'd probably come under match fixing though....

Come on Reginald don't tell me your a convert to the cult that is this lanky fruit?

I remember you describing him as comedy not so long ago!

If Sven is so desperate for a big target man he might want to start with one that can actually score!

you could also award a free kick for unsporting behaviour, if, in the opinion of the referee, it is warranted (i.e. a team mate obviously picks a team-mate up to reach a header).

I think Reg has been a Crouchy supporter for some time judging by this topic,

http://thetownend.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3105



It looks like my idea that Crouchy can be our secret weapon is becoming reality. :advercool:

Peter Crouch is something different and will be the new supersub for England  :)

...then again anything's better than bringing on Owen Hargreaves.

You need to go back a bit further.

Although it's fair to say at the time I don’t think there were many who saw poor Crouch as anything more than an unfortunate Premiership buffoon.  

Still, not looking good on the old goal tally for the season is it?

If that’s the standard  of England strikers it won’t be long before Andy ‘the goal’ Cole is being lined up for a dramatic late comeback to the National side.

Coincidently Harry Redknapp was singing the praises of antediluvian Teddy Sheringham at the weekend and suggested he was th ideal man to partner either Wayne or Owen.