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Title: New loan signing
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 16:50:02
Hameur Bouazza

http://www.watfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/Professtional/0,,10400~29740,00.html

From my Watford grapevine:

"For a month, to prove he can do it and stop being labelled a 'good prospect', according to our Aidy."

He's young, quick with a powerful shot & seems to have spent the summer in fertilizer which as well as helping him grow and fill out has turned him into sh!t by all accounts. Shame really, though our old boys tend to blossom chez toi, so fingers crossed. How's young Jack getting on?


Iffy said Bothroyd was a mate, so the source isn't a surprise, but it's not exactly an older, wiser head is it? Nor a youthful overachiever. Looks like Curo or Thorpey will be shipped out on loan somewhere as a result.




According to someone on thisisstfc........


Title: New loan signing
Post by: walrus on Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 17:28:28
Fuck me another lightweight forward who will have a bit-part.  Fuck me I'm joining Rich's army.  Everything's absolutely fucking shit.

WHERE'S THE FUCKING EXPERIENCE  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 17:32:32
I don’t think you could make up a more unlikely rumour if you tried, probably means there may be some truth to it unfortunately

Would never get sanctioned by the FA as an emergency loan given the amount of strikers we currently have at our disposal and don’t forget the likes of Heath and Shakes were forwards by trade before their arrival at the CG.

Their tick but not that tick.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 20:26:00
Iffy didnt mention any names tonight, but the lack of crosses into the box was mentioned....


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 20:36:34
I haven't heard anything of it yet, doesn't sound like the type of player Iffy was after either.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 23:16:15
Quote from: "Walrus"
Fuck me another lightweight forward who will have a bit-part.  Fuck me I'm joining Rich's army.  Everything's absolutely fucking shit.

WHERE'S THE FUCKING EXPERIENCE  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


 :mrgreen:  :beers:


Title: Re: New loan signing
Post by: Spud on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:39:11
Quote from: "PHIL!!!!"
Hameur Bouazza

http://www.watfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/Professtional/0,,10400~29740,00.html

From my Watford grapevine:

"For a month, to prove he can do it and stop being labelled a 'good prospect', according to our Aidy."

He's young, quick with a powerful shot & seems to have spent the summer in fertilizer which as well as helping him grow and fill out has turned him into sh!t by all accounts. Shame really, though our old boys tend to blossom chez toi, so fingers crossed. How's young Jack getting on?


Iffy said Bothroyd was a mate, so the source isn't a surprise, but it's not exactly an older, wiser head is it? Nor a youthful overachiever. Looks like Curo or Thorpey will be shipped out on loan somewhere as a result.




According to someone on thisisstfc........


Just seen on SSNews that he's signed for us on a months loan deal.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:51:48
Fallon, Thorpe, Cureton, Roberts, Heath and someone Bouzzzza

Can he play on the wing?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: mattboyslim on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:55:02
Well, it's not ideal, but iffy knows his strikers, and you've gotta expect someo emoving out before the weekend. Giv ethe guy a chance it could be just what we need, the experienced strikers haven't worked maybe a young'un will.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:56:08
again, no sign of Christian Roberts being given a chance...


Title: New loan signing
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:58:13
He never seems to be considered, does he?  Weird.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Spud on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:59:33
Roberts attitude must have something to do with him not being given a chance.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:02:37
how did he get on for reseves yesterday?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:03:33
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
He never seems to be considered, does he?  Weird.


It is getting a bit stupid now.

I remember pointing out a King interview, where he was talking about a striker partner for Rory and Roberts didnt get a mention and again.

Its stupid, because Bradford aside, every time he has come on he has looked dangerous.

I hope this is part of Iffys plan, he'll play Roberts on the wing because we are not creating enough.

Christian Roberts does still play for us right?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Spud on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:04:27
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
how did he get on for reseves yesterday?


All i know is that he started up front.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:07:32
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
He never seems to be considered, does he?  Weird.


It is getting a bit stupid now.

I remember pointing out a King interview, where he was talking about a striker partner for Rory and Roberts didnt get a mention and again.

Its stupid, because Bradford aside, every time he has come on he has looked dangerous.

I hope this is part of Iffys plan, he'll play Roberts on the wing because we are not creating enough.

Christian Roberts does still play for us right?


I agree that every time he comes on he looks good, but everytime hes started hes looked shit ever since his injury


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:42:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/4315774.stm

Linkage


Title: New loan signing
Post by: mattboyslim on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:48:43
50 games, no mug, as many goals as thrope and cureton combined, lets hope he can take penalties!


Title: New loan signing
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:51:09
he's "tagged a good prospect". so no experience added to our relegation candiate squad then...


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:55:46
http://www.watfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10400~723474,00.html


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:56:38
Quote from: "dazzza"
I don’t think you could make up a more unlikely rumour if you tried, probably means there may be some truth to it unfortunately

Would never get sanctioned by the FA as an emergency loan given the amount of strikers we currently have at our disposal and don’t forget the likes of Heath and Shakes were forwards by trade before their arrival at the CG.

Their tick but not that tick.



Eat your words maybe?  :P


Title: New loan signing
Post by: le god cuervo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 12:08:09
seems like a rather pointless signing to be honest. already got players like this in our squad, why not play roberts or shakes up front as others have suggested?

we need a hard-nut midfielder!


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 12:45:23
WTF kid of siging is that. We are devoid of any quality suplly from midfield, it is inexperienced and lacks bite on accasion.

So we sign another striker. We are presumably loaning one out, but even then we'd have enough if the supply was right.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 12:51:29
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
He never seems to be considered, does he?  Weird.


It is getting a bit stupid now.

I remember pointing out a King interview, where he was talking about a striker partner for Rory and Roberts didnt get a mention and again.

Its stupid, because Bradford aside, every time he has come on he has looked dangerous.

I hope this is part of Iffys plan, he'll play Roberts on the wing because we are not creating enough.

Christian Roberts does still play for us right?


I agree that every time he comes on he looks good, but everytime hes started hes looked shit ever since his injury


When was the last time Roberts started a game?

BBC has this Bouazza kiddy down as a midfielder?!


Title: New loan signing
Post by: yeo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 12:56:38
Proof that not just King thinks Roberts is a cunt.

Good.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 12:57:31
Can't say I'm particularly excited about this signing but hopefully he'll make a positive difference.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:04:09
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Proof that not just King thinks Roberts is a cunt.

Good.



Thats just stupid, he can be the biggest idiot in the world, but if he can put the ball in the net who cares.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: yeo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:05:35
How manys he scored for the reserves?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:16:07
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
He never seems to be considered, does he?  Weird.


It is getting a bit stupid now.

I remember pointing out a King interview, where he was talking about a striker partner for Rory and Roberts didnt get a mention and again.

Its stupid, because Bradford aside, every time he has come on he has looked dangerous.

I hope this is part of Iffys plan, he'll play Roberts on the wing because we are not creating enough.

Christian Roberts does still play for us right?


I agree that every time he comes on he looks good, but everytime hes started hes looked shit ever since his injury


When was the last time Roberts started a game?

BBC has this Bouazza kiddy down as a midfielder?!


Wycombe. he was utterly shite and disinterested. he was only sparred my wrath by thorpe being even worse.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:17:23
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
How manys he scored for the reserves?


None....lets talk first team

Fallon - 6
Roberts - 2
Thorpe - 1
Heath - 1
O'Hanlon - 1
Jenkins - 1
og - 1
Everyone else - 0

Roy Keane is an awful person, but Fergie wouldnt leave him out the side because of it....


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:21:08
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
He never seems to be considered, does he?  Weird.


It is getting a bit stupid now.

I remember pointing out a King interview, where he was talking about a striker partner for Rory and Roberts didnt get a mention and again.

Its stupid, because Bradford aside, every time he has come on he has looked dangerous.

I hope this is part of Iffys plan, he'll play Roberts on the wing because we are not creating enough.

Christian Roberts does still play for us right?


I agree that every time he comes on he looks good, but everytime hes started hes looked shit ever since his injury


When was the last time Roberts started a game?

BBC has this Bouazza kiddy down as a midfielder?!


Wycombe. he was utterly shite and disinterested. he was only sparred my wrath by thorpe being even worse.


Yet which one now starts every week!?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: yeo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:22:49
Hes not in the first team.

If he doesnt want to work to get in it then he doesnt deserve a place in it .

2 different managers that work with him every day would seem to agree with me .


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:43:29
so because he didnt score for the reserves that means he isnt working hard enough?

You cant ignore the fact he has outscored Cureton and Thorpe put together without even starting a game.

In his last apperance Roberts was full of running and at one point even ran the width of the pitch to win the ball back, he then turned around and started running at the defenders again and kept causing problems and we were unlucky not to score.

He deserves his chance....Thorpe and Cureton havent delivered.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:45:44
i hate agreeing with Dan, but he appears to be right.  Also, why not try Heath (he is a striker afterall) or Shakes before getting another young head on loan?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:46:26
He probablly does, but your constant whinging about the subject just makes me want to argue with you about it. :|


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 13:47:38
i agree with DV85 in a way. what's the point in continuing to play cureton and thorpe if they are not going to score. Roberts has scored 2 (more than Curo and Thorpe put together) and started about 1 game i think. give him a chance. cant be any worse than Cureton or Thorpe can he?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 14:13:40
Quote from: "VD85"
You cant ignore the fact he has outscored Cureton and Thorpe put together without even starting a game.

You can and should ignore that because it's not a fact. He started against Oldham and was completely anonymous for most of the match before suddenly coming into life in the last 20 minutes giving the impression he was brought on as a sub but he wasn't.

I quite like Roberts because he plays a bit like me, quick, good at running at defenders sometimes, good when he tries but lazy. He's not really that amazing a lot of the time though so I'm not convinced he deserves to start, depends what he's like in training.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 14:17:19
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "VD85"
You cant ignore the fact he has outscored Cureton and Thorpe put together without even starting a game.

You can and should ignore that because it's not a fact. He started against Oldham and was completely anonymous for most of the match before suddenly coming into life in the last 20 minutes giving the impression he was brought on as a sub but he wasn't.

I quite like Roberts because he plays a bit like me, quick, good at running at defenders sometimes, good when he tries but lazy. He's not really that amazing a lot of the time though so I'm not convinced he deserves to start, depends what he's like in training.


Ok, so Roberts has outscored Cureton and Thorpe put together in just 1 start.

Everyone was dire for the first 70 minutes of that Oldham match. Harsh to single Roberts out on that occasion.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: yeo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 14:26:31
Roberts is as rubbish as the other 2.

You just dont like the fact that Iffy agrees with King.He sees him train every day.We need goals do you not think that if he had shown even the slightest bit of interest in being the team he would not be playing?

Your basing his selection on what?

2 goals?
20 minutes against Oldham?
1 other game?
Kicking balls into the Townend at half time?
His eyebrow slash?

The manager knows him best and isnt picking him for a reason,you  had better get used to it and stop harping on and on.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: BrightonRed on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 14:28:54
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "VD85"
You cant ignore the fact he has outscored Cureton and Thorpe put together without even starting a game.

You can and should ignore that because it's not a fact. He started against Oldham and was completely anonymous for most of the match before suddenly coming into life in the last 20 minutes giving the impression he was brought on as a sub but he wasn't.

I quite like Roberts because he plays a bit like me, quick, good at running at defenders sometimes, good when he tries but lazy. He's not really that amazing a lot of the time though so I'm not convinced he deserves to start, depends what he's like in training.


He was started on the right side of midfield for the Oldham match and was only moved up front for the final 20 mins when it became obvious that a Cureton / Thorpe up-front partnership wasn't gonna work. I think it would be harsh to consider this a 'start' when played out of position.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: DV on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 14:41:57
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Roberts is as rubbish as the other 2.

You just dont like the fact that Iffy agrees with King.He sees him train every day.We need goals do you not think that if he had shown even the slightest bit of interest in being the team he would not be playing?

Your basing his selection on what?

2 goals?
20 minutes against Oldham?
1 other game?
Kicking balls into the Townend at half time?
His eyebrow slash?

The manager knows him best and isnt picking him for a reason,you  had better get used to it and stop harping on and on.


First of, how do you know Roberts is as rubbish at the other 2? He hasnt been given a fair chance upfront this season. So can't be judged.

Again, the fact I dont like is that Cureton and Thorpe have both been give chance after chance to deliver and have failed to. Roberts has not been given that chance. He might fail as badly as the others, but we are hardly in a position where we can freeze players out and not play them.

I'm basing his selection on

* Thorpe isnt delivering
* Cureton isnt delivering
* Roberts looked good in the last 20 at Oldham and scored a good goal
* Roberts played well and set up a goal against Forest
* Roberts came off the bench and looked our most dangerous man at Tranmere
* Roberts came off the bench and played well against Walsall
* Roberts came off the bench to score against Yeovil
* Roberts came off the bench and looked very dangerous against Bournemouth
* Roberts came off the bench and was our main threat at Doncaster.
* Roberts style of play would be most suited to playing alongside Fallon in my opinion.
* We've all seen what Roberts is capable of just last season, where as Thorpe and Cureton have not done anything for the last couple of years.
* Roberts isnt scared to take men on.
* Roberts can create.

Iffy has only picked two teams, one of which Roberts wasnt even available for, so how can you be so sure that Iffy doesnt like him and doesnt want to play him?


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 15:08:07
Quote from: "BrightonRed"
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "VD85"
You cant ignore the fact he has outscored Cureton and Thorpe put together without even starting a game.

You can and should ignore that because it's not a fact. He started against Oldham and was completely anonymous for most of the match before suddenly coming into life in the last 20 minutes giving the impression he was brought on as a sub but he wasn't.

I quite like Roberts because he plays a bit like me, quick, good at running at defenders sometimes, good when he tries but lazy. He's not really that amazing a lot of the time though so I'm not convinced he deserves to start, depends what he's like in training.


He was started on the right side of midfield for the Oldham match and was only moved up front for the final 20 mins when it became obvious that a Cureton / Thorpe up-front partnership wasn't gonna work. I think it would be harsh to consider this a 'start' when played out of position.

Playing Roberts on the wing isn't out of position, he's played there regularly for all his clubs.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: le god cuervo on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 15:52:25
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Playing Roberts on the wing isn't out of position, he's played there regularly for all his clubs.


he doesnt like it out on the wing though. he said that was the reason he left city & signed for us, because king told him he would play up front.

he's got to be worth a try in my opinion. cant be any worse than thorpe & cureton.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 16:17:23
Bouazza is a midfielder according to BBC Sport. What ever position he plays in though, i hope he plays like he wants to be here and i hope he scores or atleast sets up a few.
If he is natually a striker, atleast that will then put more pressure on the likes of Cureton, Thorpe and Roberts and also he may well be cover for one of our strikers as one of them may be shipped out on loan.


Title: New loan signing
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, October 6, 2005, 16:19:00
i bet he is shit!