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Doncaster Rovers 2 Swindon Town 1 att: 7,280 (565 away)

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Already sold 500+ tickets.

 i am going to temper my expectations on this occasion. I going for a 4-2 win tomorrow.

Both teams in good form at the moment. I doubt it'll be as madcap as the Salford game. Think they'll probably just have enough to squeak a win. 2-1 late on again for Donnie. 8096 (613 gutted town fans).

I just get the feeling we're not gonna lose this

Heart says 2-1 win

Head says 1-0 defeat

As long as we keep the last few games alive and not dead rubbers then that’s good enough for me (depressing to say. Any season we’re in this division snd not challenging for automatics is still failure, or should be)

Doncaster not a happy hunting ground for us in my mind, but could be wrong. Can only remember wins under Mark Cooper in 14/15 and Lindsey in 22/23. Getting major Notts County away vibes from this but did not expect us to get a result at Walsall, so who knows.

Pre match in The Gate House baht ‘at.
No need for headgear on a fine spring morning is there.
So, this is more like it, on the road (or rails in this case) for just after 6am & now settled in the pub at a civilized hour.

Thought about giving up beer for Lent, for about 1 zeptosecond.
Ditching some of the non-essential nonsense like food might help to shift some of the accumulated timber around the midriff.

Always a pleasure to visit the Gateway to Cleethorpes ahead of the big GNR v GWR derby.
Good for the step count and a very good selection of ale options by the market & the local Minster is an impressive erection.

Not a great record overall against this lot, but the only two away wins have come in the last 5 visits with only 1 defeat.
Would err towards a narrow loss today or maybe nick a point which would be more than acceptable.

Looking at the table a top 10 finish would not be an unrealistic target to aim for.
Would provide some momentum going into next season with key players still contracted, hopefully Holloway gets to finish baking his cake over the summer, maybe even with some icing sugar and nice packaging & 102 points here we come.

The owner may well shit himself if we got promoted. Top of the range expertly plumbed thunderbox required.
Anyway, a win against Dunny, sorry Donny, would make for a very happy trip home.

Speaking of happiness, the contrast of feelings between following this team in the dark days of early December (& before) and now is very welcome.

It's great for the main object of the escapsim to be better than the shit being escaped from for a change.
Well, maybe not outright happiness, but relative contentment for the moment.

Then again, five minutes of mingling with the misery guts locals has put paid to some of the contentment.
Must remember that they smile on the inside up here.

Hope that we can get a result.

Good to see the railway reference in the previous post. It's not just Crewe is it in 'The Battle of the Railwaymen'? Talking of which, I'm involved in the 80th anniversary of the first Rev Awdry railway story (he lived down the road from us in Stroud) and discovered that Sir Topham Hatt (The Fat Controller) started his railway career as an apprentice in the Works in Swindon in 1894. To think that my great grandfather might have worked with this fictive character. A good rune: 2-1 to the GWR V GNR today.

I have a bad feeling about this game I think it will finally spell the end of any possible thoughts of a push for the play offs, however remote they are in reality.

We have only ever won away at Donny twice losing 8 times in 15 meetings.

A point would be brilliant.

Interesting that we have only lost 2 more games this season than Doncaster but they have won 7 more than us.

That said they are "only" 6th in the home league table and have the same amount of home clean sheets so far as Swindon have got and have scored 4 goals less at home than we have.

A win would truly be a statement but Doncaster is always a very difficult place to visit.

The "spirit of Reg". Alive and well

Remember a midweek, Iffy's first game in charge. Mex and me arriving in his open topped sports car like a couple of film stars! Dismal 1-0 defeat and I think I remember an umpteenth red card for Jerel

Thats an interesting story mate, I was the 5th generation to work in the Railways works the first, my great great grandfather moving to Swindon around 1850 specifically to work in the works.

So I too may well have releatives that worked closely with "the fat controller" character too.

Swindon was always a way better establishment than Doncaster, Crewe, Derby or Eastleigh anyway :)

Doncaster (and Crewe and Derby FWIW) works used to instate brand new locomotives with the same mechanical tolerances as Swindon works would refurbish at the same tolerance, working to far tighter and way better quality than any other railway works in the entire world.

Time for another beer soaked topical railway reference.
The Mallard may be a lot quicker but let's not forget that the kick ass Robin is Britain's national bird.

Mallard was quicker just the once and then immediately fell apart :)

Just arrived in Doncaster, sun is out & the shorts are on for the first time this year.

Would be happy with a point, but wouldn’t be shocked if we managed a win, albeit a home win is the most likely result.

100% this.

The positive is that my son has been five times & has seen 2 wins & 2 draws with just one defeat.

He’s here today 🤞

Too warm for the orange hat today. At least I won't get the verbal abuse from one of our own fans that I had last week.

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Unchanged team and subs.

Walsall 1-3 Grimsby

Fucking hell, they will be off the top spot if Bradford win today away at lowly Jills.

Werent Walsall 14 points clear in December/January?

Nice to see my flag out

Fuck

Fuck aye

Delaney treading water.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

OMG! 😧

They have already noticed our lack of pace at the back and exploiting it.

That was far too easy blimey

Er. That's not ideal

Long shot by Ofoborh softly wide.

Doncasters improvised back 4 means nothing if they will outscore us at the other end!

Another good chance for Donny, got away with that.

Shot by Donny well wide.

Not that we are by any means a 1 man team but we really miss Clarke.

Not sure what is worse the defending or Cotterills' socks

Lovely long pass by Ripley finds Cotterill on the wing but he cant control it properly and we lose possession near the box.

The way Donny are playing is the way we started against Salford. Hopefully, we do what they did!

Seems to be a trend lately with cutting holes in socks, several Donny players have done the same too.

We need Sobowale’s pace to help cover Delaney and Wright’s lack of!

Not sure why he’s been dropped to the bench recently, because it was working nicely before.

McGregor then needs to be further up the pitch instead of Cotterill - who can darn his socks on the bench!

Smith will get frustrated and booked today bringing a 2 match ban

Agree with all of that.

Sobowale's pace balances this defence indeed. But I get the desire to play McGregor, just need someone fast somewhere!

Tshimanga down injured under a challenge.

Well this is poor....

MacGregor instead of Cotterill with Sobo behind him.

Tshimanga just wide with a shot from 15 yards on the trun, he didnt catch it cleanly though.

Freckleton done for pace by the winger but his cross is weak.

Phil Smith says it's been a decent enough start...  hmmmm

We badly need Sobowales pace at the back today.

0-2

freckleton caught out badly by the winger, hes having a stinker so far.

Abortion of a performance, this. Season over.

Dear, dear, dear!

Back to comedy defending!

TBH we have been pretty shit so far all over the pitch.

The Old (November) Swindon is back.

Get the beach holidays booked.

This could be an absolute arse kicking today.  :(

The team looked leggy on Tuesday- not sure why the same team was picked.

At least Clem doesn’t have to worry about paying higher wages next season.

Plan accomplished

 :D

Good news is that everyone can go to the concerts now.

Competitive budget

We are powderpuff today, lots of sidewards and backwards passing, losing battles all over the pitch - dull

For league 2. Imagine the stress he would have been under if we had flucked promotion this season.

Why the fuck do Doncaster need a tactical injury with the keeper, just get the misery over and done with FFS

Surely the powers that be need to look at this. Seems that every game a keeper goes down under no challenge to have a tactical discussion. We’ve been doing it as much as opponents. Just irritating

I'll never stop shouting for football to adopt the same rules as rugby. Every time the play stops the timer is paused, every time it restarts so does the clock. 45 minutes of football each half will be played.

I mean we’ve been shite all over but the midfield have been particularly poor

Spot on plus have the time on display so that we can all see it.

For all the good stuff we have seen recently this is the polar opposite, not singling out anyone we are just poor all over the pitch so far.

Doncaster have pace up front and thats our undoing.

We will get days like this as we are basically a mid table side.

HT 0-2

Not really threatening Doncaster at all so far.

Please make changes for the 2nd half and make a fist of it.

When we have been winning, we have done so with everyone scoring 6/10. Today, everyone is at around 4-5/10.

Well, there's room for improvement in the second half.

Did we deserve nil?  H.T. subs will be interesting.

They've all been off the boil today, don't think any particular player has been a liability.

Barring multiple subs at half time I can't see what Holloway can do to change it.


But at least Kennedy would be happy. We've absolutely dominated possession and box entries.

We've had a good run, but that was a shit half.

Nothing more to say

Nothing to lose, 4 subs at half time please - Cain, Butterworth, Glatz and Sobo on

Hopeful hoofing has its place in this league but a bit more than that will be required for a realistic top 3 / 7 challenge.

Holloway will know this.

Not an excuse for a poor performance but the pitch looks ropey which is not helping, more than once the ball bobbling around and lack of control costs us. Think we are seeing the result of the last two tough games, four half time subs might be the answer.

Slightly difficult to read the subs. Lots of attackers on the pitch, this could get ugly as much as it could get better

Westley on for Ofoborh
Ameen on for McGregor
Butterworthon for Tshimanga

Ameen is a direct swap with MacGregor but Ameens game is not huilt upon tracking back defending,

Ameen fouled with his 1st touch.

Definitely going for a result. I suppose nothing to lose at this point in regards to keeping any remote hopes alive.

Smith wide with an open goal almost after a FK by Wright. Came at him too fast though.

I don’t understand how Cotterill is still on.

2-1

1-2 Butterworth.

Buttertubs!

Game on

AV THAT!!!

2-2

Boooom

2-2

Ameen to Westley!

GET IN what a change

Quick take Ameen back off again until he signs a contract!

GET THE FUCK IN!!!!!!

What a bloody turnaround. Ameen has been unreal. Get in

Wesley!

Why the hell have we left Ameen on the bench all the time!!! 😂

Holloway has been guarding him.

Botan Ameen, Botan Ameen the (2nd) best Iraqi that i've ever seen!

Smith header off the line from an Ameen cross.

If we get anything out of this, it'll be more points attributed Holloway subs. He's the best manager we've had in a long time, despite the interview bollocks

Save by Ripley and Freckleton pokes it wide for a corner.

 A 4-2 win is very much on the cards .

Was Ameen injured in January? Interesting he didn't play and was nowhere near the squad when the transfer window was open....

Makes you wonder playing him regularly now gets him in the shop window for the summer....

Butterworth and Ameen showing more this half already than the whole team did 1st half.

Well done Freckleton under pressure there. Feels like 6 months ago he'd have panicked & miskicked it into the goal

I know Holloway has always rated him as a wide striker, something we havent really had this season, but wanted to blood him gently.

Nichols gives away a corner with poor control.

I would put pressure on their keeper who looks like a typical Premier League loan keeper....wont come for crosses and is a very average shot stopper.

Well left by Freckleton, again early season he would have hoofed that into touch.

This was an ideal time to try him. No pressure as the game was over.

Wright should have played that earlier, I dont like him keep losing the ball when he brigs it out, that could have cost us.

That was never a foul by Delaney.

FK blocked by the wall.

Kilkenny has had a few very loose touches today.

Smith very poor pass to Ameen on the counter, great chance to hit them wasted.

Doncaster bring on....

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Good defending by Kilkenny there despite the boos from the Donny fans.

Tuesday and today the ‘finishers ‘ are leading 4-0

Glatzel on for Nichols.

Think I would rather have Wesley on loan for a season than Tshimanga next year.

As said on comms, need to get the ball out to Ameen again

Shot by Doncaster deflected just wide for a corner.

Att: 7,440

Hes obviously been told to hug the touchline, I would rather he roam a bit and chase the ball.

Good punch by Ripley from the corner, was fouled anyway though.

Freckleton gives away another corner.

Smith cant get a touch in the 6 yards box from a cross by Westley.

It's an assumption based only on where they are in their careers but I'd imagine Westley is much cheaper. I just haven't seen enough of him yet, we're comparing cameos to 30 odd games of Tshimanga, good and bad.

Crikey! Their defence is there for the taking!

Yes, but he’s helped change games and scores goals

Yellow for Freckelton.

I’m sure they’ll be thinking the same but I do agree

He won’t do it, but Cotterill for Sobowale please

Agreed!

I would try that too, get some pace on.

Butterworth having a pop at Freckles for some reason there

Sobowale on for Cotterill.

😎

Ameen getting all accross the front line now, not sticking out wide.

Telling him to stay on his feel and calm down methinks

Another team out there intent on stopping that happen!

Sobowale's pace immediately saves us.

Fucking hell that was close as they stole the ball from us, off the line by Sobo.

Bloody hell Sobowale!

As does the offside flag

Disallowed for offside for them. Also looked like handball by the striker too.

Bollocks

Did you want it to count?

Phil smith hasn’t got a clue

That's a massive pheeeewwww

More than Aud :D

Ameen to score the winner would be a dream!

Fucking hell this is tense!

It flashed up as a goal on Flashscore

Good claiming crosses by Ripley.

4 mins added.

Clinging on now.

Got away with that unmarked shot from 10 yards easy save by Ripley.

FK for foul on Glatzel 35 yards out central.

Shit free kick by Butterworth high and wide.

Nail biting stuff.

Good catch by Ripley.

FT 2-2

Good character shown by Town to come back from 2-0 down at HT.

Damn fine result!

Will take that draw. Shows how far we’ve come since even the Notts County game as that was similar circumstances. Start of the second half was brilliant and if Smith could’ve made a better connection with his header, we may have come away with all three points. Either way, good character shown

Without Ripley claiming those crosses, we would have lost.

Pretty happy with a point after that awful start.

Season was always over.

Ameen has to be MotM for that 10 min spell where he was unplayable!

Took our chances in the short period we were dominant, which you can't be unhappy about. Could easily have lost that, but Doncaster are good and a point hard earned.

Another point near the play offs!
A great comeback and credit to Holloway for making the changes at half time.

A point away at a top three side prior to Holloway would have been highly unlikely. We just keep plugging away now and once again the depth of the squad and use of subs proved decisive.

Crikey! Most of the sides in the top half lost! 😮

Yes so we are still "only" 10 points off the play off spots.

That's not the kind of feedback we wanted from Holloway's interview

(That's a technical mic issue for those out of town)

Well well well. Three holes in the ground.

A very good point after a shit first half. The subs did the damage. Though Donny did finish better and had my heart in the mouth.

With the playoffs gone we can just enjoy these games for what they are - decent fun now we aren't pushovers.

Marvelous.

Holloway:
- Second half came because of the first
- Repeated the thing from Salford. The thing we said we wouldn't see again. Schoolboy stuff
- Interview ended due to excessive feedback on the line

Can anyone inform BBC Radio Wiltshire that "wugby" is boring.

Ameen:
- Very, very fun. Enjoyed it a lot!
- Gaffer said at half time that Ameen should get the ball a lot
- Told team to pass to him if they saw him open
- Felt amazing. Have to keep pushing for more
- Very good. Subs gave good impact
- Started the half well. Could have got a winner. But glad to have got a point
- Manager wants creatinvity and flair
- Wants forwards to be hungry
- Has been training with 1st team since January
- Need to stay humble. Trying to keep level headed. But knowss his ability and feels he can challenge for a starting spot
- Transition from 18s to 1st is massive. Need loans or train with 1st team
- Ramadan: Sufficient preparation. Balanced diet and praying when he can. Need to be disciplined

Hawes summarised Holloway (Interview will be on Sounds later):
- Holloway was frustrated with start
- Lacked intensity
- Felt changes got team stabilised
- Pleased with Ameen. Didnt ask him to track back. Made it an open game
- Disappointed not to win
- Happy with the character of the team

Great comeback for a very good point.
No fear for the remaining games.

The finishing 11 has outperformed the starters twice now.
Clarke has been a big miss.

Can have a good go at winning the upcoming home games now.

A great point and three very winnable games coming up:
Cheltenham (H)
Accrington (H)
Morecambe (A)

The fat lady is not quite singing just yet on our playoff hopes

I know you can’t make the keeper go off for 30 seconds, as you do for outfield players, but I’d make one player from that team go off in his place, so at least the team is down to 10 for that 30 seconds.

The son’s record at Doncaster is in tact, 2 wins & 3 draws from 6 visits.

First half terrible, second half much better.

A pleasant drive back down the A1

:D

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It is very annoying and agree we have done it as well.  They should make a rule that if the keeper receives treatment then no players can go to the dugout.  The down to 10 is a good idea as well but what if the keeper is actually injured and how would you choose which player is to go off.

Yeah 😉

His interviews are way too long. I’ve never managed to be arsed to listen to the end of any of them.

He seemed a bit off/agitated in his post match interview.

I personally find his interviews to be very enlightening, both pre and post match and enjoy listening to them.

Same here, he wears his heart on his sleeve but definitely seems a little angry because of the first half.

You must have hated Di Canio’s!

Game of 2 halves. Was surprised with the starting lineup. Thought Holloway had learnt from Colchester. Delaney's lack of pace and Freckleton next to him was an obvious weakness, especially when up against their best player Molyneux who's been in good form. Would prefer to see Sobowale. Freckleton maybe ok defending but a liability with the ball. As much as the 1st half team selection & performance was bad, the subs made all the difference. Great to see Botan liven up the game.

Off pitch experience was interesting. Had a large row all to myself as 2 groups moved away from me because I was wearing my orange hat. One old fellow carried on commenting in my direction the whole game then at the end, was chanting Clem In, just to rile me. We had a discussion but I couldn't follow his mad ramblings.....he talks to Clem every day, Clem will document the breakdown of Admin costs, corruption in the Trust...left him and walked down to the front  to clap the players.

After being one down after 1 minute, you could cut him some slack for that. Because after that we’re chasing the game at a top three club. Then boom, no.2. So now we’re really up against it.

Whilst it’s plain to see we have come a long way, Liverpool we’kre not. Go in 0-0 at HT and who know’s how the game could have finished.

Disappointing isn’t it? Which shows how far we have come and what might have been had he come earlier. Still four points from 1st & 3rd both away from home isn’t to be sniffed at is it?

I'm sure that if asked prior to Warsaw, anyone would have taken five points from the last three games...

Yep 5 from a possible 9 against promotion chasing teams is good. Let’s now win all of our remaining matches!!

Yeah we need 9 wins out of 10 minimum for this ridiculous playoff talk to come about

I see no official away figure has been announced yet but it was said to be 522 Town fans there.

Not bad for a mid table team with a 7 hour round trip.

7,440 (566)

I’m not sure we would be equipped to go up with the current owner even if we did manage to sneak through the play offs and could do more damage than good. Let’s assume we don’t go up and Ollie is given the budget & players to have a go at top 3 next season.

Ah cool I searched everywhere and couldnt find the official away figure.

I'm pretty sure you are right and I'd not actually thought that far ahead. I'm just taking it game by game and enjoy looking at the table now. And I love the fact that I can actually look forward to and enjoy games again. It's been a long time coming. Ollie's breathed new life into the Club for the time being at least.

With Holloway in charge at least everyone connected to the club can be optimistic and look forward to the next game rather that the doom and gloom of finishing in the bottom 2 and going out the football league which literally could have finished the club off.

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Agree here. Been debating whether I’m being a grinch in not being able to completely enjoy our up turn in form but I think this is it. Even if we pulled off the miracle and fluked our way up, with the current state of the club, next season would have high chance on being horrendous.

Sad position to be in knowing that any success on the pitch is probably despite the overall state of the club and likely wouldn’t be built on properly (as always).

10 games now to enjoy fairly stress free and then see what the summer holds.

Fucking hell.

No such luck for me for my one game back in an orange hat. I even went in the arkells.

Is there a bigger pro Clem movement forming as there’s been a few cases of orange hat wearers getting abuse.

I think it's always been the case, the difference is that they double down on their views when things are going well on the pitch, which shows that they can't or are not interested in looking at the bigger picture, which is fine - the frustrating thing is why they feel the need to have a pop at the group with a different view to them.

One of the reasons why I celebrate Holloway for breathing life back into the TEAM, but in my opinion he hasn't breathed life back into the club, the club is still the same - something that Clem supporters won't or don't care about acknowledging, again which is fine.

 Cheers Bernie, wasn’t sure if the pro Clem group was gaining momentum.

Fair point.. I said he had breathed life into the Club but in fact I should have said Team. The Club is still a shit show...

soapy tit wank if it was Weyman

I’m not sure we would be equipped to go up with the current owner even if we did manage to sneak through the play offs and could do more damage than good. I concur, however, we’d all take promotion this season


Let’s assume we don’t go up and Ollie is given the budget & players to have a go at top 3 next season.
Well, that’s another scenario isn’t it. Next season, fresh squad with a mix of this seasons crop and some new faces and maybe a few Yoofs. Who knows how that will pan out and depends on the budgie

Further demonstrates my previous point that all you want is a fight.  You should be nowhere near fans that don't understand the actual problems with the ownership. 

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Decent video

Watched that, it was good. I'm always interested to see the view from the other side and that was pretty fair.

If some idiot wants to have a pop at me for wearing an orange hat, I'd be quite up for the fall out of that,yes.

Of course that makes me a bully, dealing with someone having a pop at me.

Fuck off.

Absolutely this.

Nobody has said anything to me when I've worn my orange hat  ???

The only comment I’ve had wearing my orange hat is someone asking me if I was saving my pennies to buy the club, to which I replied that I’d won the Euromillions so didn’t need to, but Clem being the crook he is wouldn’t let me see the books as he’s got too much to hide & wasn’t serious about selling.

He couldn’t tell if I was being serious, but he hasn’t mentioned it again :)

I didn’t wear it on Saturday, but only because it was too hot

So would it be so bad if we went up? Why can't he be given the budget in League1 especially as we should be able to attract better players?

Do you think the owner can afford league one salaries?

I’m not sure it would be ‘bad’ if we went up by I imagine our stay in L1 & our recruitment process might be very similar to our last (extremely brief) stop in L1 under Wellens.

I mean I get he needed to replace Doyle & Yates who were a massive part in our promotion but on the face it - would appear he was never given enough budget to attract adequate replacements.

We’d possibly be better off in the sense the current loan players aren’t massive important cogs for our team & if all those OOC in the summer resign but it’s debatable whether we’d be able to recruit well enough to improve the quality.

Always possible (likely) we’d sell in the summer too….because….we run at a loss & have sold anyone for decent money yet this season to claw some of that back…

Plus - the addition 2m a year in ‘admin expenses’ I assume, honestly

Also, on the off chance we might have players with a Promotion Wage rise clause Clem was hoping would never get activated

Is the bottom half of League One that much different to League Two in term of wages?

I'd say, unlikely

Didn’t the Pox lose £15m getting promoted from L1?

If we did get there with the current lit it would likely be an instant relegation battle

According to reports from 2021, 2022 and 2023 the average expenditure on wages for clubs promoted from L2 to L1 increasesby an average of £1.5m with average wage expenditure in L2 being £3.5m and £5m in L1.

So it would go up by probably around 44% on average. (using the figures provided by Capology.com).

Lincoln City spent 9.7m and 10.3m in the last two years accounted for, 23 & 24.  That's a few million more than we are spending today.  The financial benefit from the league is not big enough to cover that, and our revenue from Clem's first season is likely a good fit for a L1 season in terms of attendances.  We should be able to compete with Lincoln, but it would be even more of a stretch I think, unless something changes in the way the club is run.

Brilliant

You literally said you didn't get the opportunity for someone to say something to you:


Dress it up how you like but you're desperate for somebody to say something to you so you can tell them they're a cunt.

Yeah, if someone has a pop at me, I wouldn't mind it at all. I'd quite relish an in life internation with one of these morons.

If you think that makes me a bully, I honestly could not possibly give less of a fuck. Its your problem.

The problem is if you, as someone in an orange hat, gives someone a spray, no matter how well deserved you may think it is, that reflects on the rest of the movement. Dan, Rich and Terry have been very clear that the protests are not there to persuade others of anything, and they've been very clear they don't want to see anyone being abused. Doesn't mean you can't discuss your position, but you're clearly talking about going a long way beyond that.

If you don't agree with that, you might want to consider whether you should be aligning yourself with their cause.

Is having to be the better person and rise above annoying? Sure, but that's the case with every protest movement ever.

You can do whatever you like in your own name, but you can see the problem with saying "I'm a representative of the Spirit of 69 protest group and I think you're a stupid cunt", right?

Just whip the hat off  ;)

I’m surprised the Pro Clem lovers haven’t arranged their own demonstrations or displayed banners inside the ground.

The Artist is pwopa nawty so fucking watch it, nerds

We're all aware we're talking specifically about someone having a pop at me first in this scenario, right?

Otherwise you're in the category of those that want justice for the woman who got an earfull after having a pop at protestors.

Ideally by the way, I'd say something witty like Posh which would flummox them. Probably not my preference for it to go south, but if some of the things that are said by these lot online are said in person then its anyones guess.

If I'm asked if I'm buying the club in person I'd definitely lose it, not in an angry way just probably piss myself laughing at hearing something so idiotic in person.

They remind me of Trump supporters  :)

I've had the same thought a number of times....

You've said several things in the past weeks that suggest that you're desperate to be confronted by the pro-clem movement so you can put them down as, in your own words, 'morons' and 'cunts'.

If you want to be seen in a different light you need to change your stance drastically, look back over everything you've said on this matter and try to defend your position, you'll not get much sympathy.

We're on the same side of the divide between pro and anti Clem but we're miles apart on the way the other side should be treated, having a different opinion on the matter doesn't make anyone a moron or a cunt, more uninformed or ignorant, but you just can't seem to stop throwing those insults around.  

If you think that's constructive then, as I've said, you should be nowhere near the other side as you'll only intensify the division.

KT

Suggest that you are on the money with your latest post. The current situation is very difficult for all true STFC supporters.
Possibly 75% are not interested or bothered of what is happening or not happening behind the scenes.
Suggest that all us SO69ers are thinking of the worst things are happening and most likely they are.
We can only try and point these supposed problems out and hope.
Getting into fights and confrontations with your own fellow supporters is not going to help anyone anywhere.

I remember Town fans fighting amongst themselves coming out of a game at the CG when McMahon tensions were high.

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:popcorn:

FWIW I do tend to agree that we shouldn't label everyone that disagrees with us as stupid or cunts as some people just aren't really fully aware of what's going on, or just want to focus on the football.

However if you take a look at that Facebook group it really is full of stupid cunts sometimes.

So there we are.

Facebook is just a collection of village idiots with global reach

And yet our fanbase seems to have canvassed quote a lot of then locally.

The kind of people that will post something to ask what the weather is like, rather than looking out the window.