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I thought it might be useful to ask this question, to provide quantifiable evidence of the collective mood of the STFC fanbase.

Absolutely not.

I have confidence that they will take as much as possible out of the club through overcharging for services and commissions on transfers of saleable assets. I also have confidence that they will end up taking us out of the league.

I have no confidence in the club moving forward.

Keith's been on i see.

No.

We are desperate for new owners.

Not excusing Clem and Co - far from it - but I also I have no confidence any new owners will be any better and they could be worse.  Tbf, that is because the likes of Clem and ??? will have to be involved.

We need the Trust to be working STFC contacts to look for new owners.  Other than collecting rent from the Crim and a little sleuthing, they need not be distracted with anything else.

There can't be many more clubs in L1 or L2 that are underperforming more against their potential.  The right people need to be tracked down and made aware.  The Trust needs to be working quality contacts, even if through contacts of contacts etc. 

Fitton might be a start, Wray, Doughty or preferably the likes of William Patey (he owes us a favour after giving us Jed!), Black, etc.  Anyone with contacts at a decent level.

Not at all.
Complete wrong uns and we are falling behind.
Nothing ever gets achieved on time.

Not in the slightest.

No from Benny

I'm still on the fence as to whether they're malign or simply incompetent, but I've decided it doesn't matter. Obviously, it is also possible to be a bit of both

Not in the slightest.

Need a total clean break with new owners that have zero existing ties directly or indirectly with the current regime.

trust need to be actively searching and speaking to interested parties.

This. I'm still leaning towards incompetent with a few chancers making life even harder for them, and I have no confidence they'll learn their lessons and get us moving in the right direction.

It should be a condition of voting YES that you explain yourself as I genuinely can't see one possible valid point for it. Not a witch hunt, a proper discussion. If not we will assume it is Kennedy, Clem and Hart voting

Are these yes votes a wind up?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Can the 3 that have voted yes expand on why they still have this (misplaced) confidence?

It would be interesting to see the results
  a) of a wider poll outside the TEF
  b) if we were say 10th and 3 points off POs.

But its pretty overwhelming, we may mostly be grumpy old men but we aren't that unbalanced are we?

Thing is Batch, this isn't a lull or a one off. We are dropping like a stone, as a team and as a club.

I can only assume the 3 people who voted yes accidently hit the wrong button.

Or they are Boo, Ben Sharp and Gareth Gillman.

I'd like to see the Adver put something like this up  ;)

It would probably be 50/50.

In the stadium itself, it would probably favour Clem in. This is why a protest will never work.

The passionate fans who want change have already stopped going.

I didn't vote yes, but I think the only real remaining "pro" argument is a better the devil you know argument. Our last three ownership changes have been late-stage Andrew Black fire sale to Jed McCrory, to Lee Power, to Clem. None of those have exactly been unmitigated successes. For those comparing Clem to Power directly, he's clearly someone who is more interested in being liked and is willing to at least try to make a positive impression on the fans. And Clem did make a positive first impression - and for some people the first impression lasts a long time. There have been successes under Clem too - the stadium is a big thing, obviously if you're into the detail you can see that this largely happened "under" Clem rather than because of Clem, but not everyone is into the legal detail of the joint venture and Eady funding!

That said, there were people out there batting for Power until the very end as well.

I don't think these are particularly strong arguments, but I think I can see a "there is nobody else, don't piss off the only guy keeping us going" pitch.

You can still have no confidence even if you feel it's 'better the devil you know'

It was better under Power though?

Am I genuinely mad for saying that?

You're not mad. Under Power we weren't toeing the dotted line of doom in L2. I think the tricker question is where would we have been today if Power stayed? Or if the club was sold to Able? I don't think anybody except perhaps Power himself could answer that question, but I'm not confident we'd have been better off than we are now.

For clarity I'm done with this lot. I'm just interested in how much this poll is representative, and how volatile opinion equates to league position

Absolutely no confidence in the ownership, whether its pathetic business acumen, financial negligence, business incompetance or well hidden downright illicit activites.

At times I have genuinely wondered if we may be better off with Power in charge, then I slap myself and yet I still cannot cast off that feeling, at least we would be better off footballing wise I am sure.

In a lot of ways it was better under Power. We never really threatened going all the way down to non-league and majority of the time we had footballing people in footballing roles at the club.

It feels a lot more like pure mismanagement and incompetency under this regime, Morfuni is so obviously out of his depth and it's a mystery what he's actually getting out of this. Club needs a hard reset and a fresh start.

It is.

Personally I can't see anything other than non league at some point soon. For that reason it holds no weight for me as we are doomed without change anyway.

I've following Swindon for years and we've always struggled with consistency. Well now we're consistantly shit. Easily the worst we have ever been and seemingly getting worse year by year. That is Clem's legacy.

The only difference between Power and Clem is that Power was sensible enough to have football people in charge and making decisions, even he was a football person there is no denying that.

Both have inadequate funds, both have undesirables and shisters hanging around extracting what they can and both are carrying out shady practices in an attempt to prolong their ownership/dictatorship of the club.

The "football people" is really the only difference between the two.  So based on that, Power is the preferable owner because although it is still a shit show in the background, it is a shit show that has football people employed which therefore makes the product on the pitch more likely to be successful, which is the only thing that the majority of us care about.

Agree with Berni, although the more it goes on the more I think it’s not Clem, just a front for someone else

Agree, I am still not completly sure that Power isn't way in the background acting as puppetmaster

Does anyone really think life was better under Power?

He would have put us into administration - as per the article.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18463343.lee-power-says-swindon-town-go-administration-sale-fails/

We wouldn't have been here had Power still been in charge, I'm fairly confident of that. 5 Yes votes, viva la believer.

The 2 can separated you know? The vote is whether you are confident in Morfuni running the club, Power is an irrelevance.  You don’t just vote yes because he isn’t Power!

At no stage did did I disclose that I'd voted yes off the back of Clem not being Power.

Spot on - I voted no but was pointing out the differences between Power and Clem, the simple fact is there was one important aspect that was better under Power, but little else.  That also doesn't mean that I didn't want Power out either.

The fact is that life under Power and Clem is one and the same, except for the inclusion of football people under Power.  The biggest failure of Clem on the football side was allowing Ben Chorley to leave and not replacing him adequately.

So expand on what did make you say yes then…. Beyond pouring pints and first impressions I’m struggling to see any tangible reasons anyone would have confidence in this ownership.

No confidence at all. Dont trust them to do anything

Still makes me laugh Morfuni original investment was going to be Harrow Borough

I mean, who the hell plans to invest in Harrow Borough whilst living the other side of the world :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Well, it looks like a resounding victory for common sense.

Looks like you've misinterpreted what I said, I didn't say I'd voted yes (or no for that matter), just pointed out that there were 5 yes votes.

For context, I voted No. However 85 people voting “No” out of 4,000 ST holders (I know most won’t be on here) doesn’t form a vast majority of our fanbase.

Even a vote of Trust members won’t reach a majority of our fanbase (of people that attend matches).

I don’t know what the answer is, but the message needs to get to more of those fans before anything changes.  I’m guessing it would need to be at a game

Continually getting battered at home should help  :)

5 votes for yes soapy tit wank.

Don't trust a word of what that man says, even the bad stuff.  It was a, pardon the pun, Power play.  He was playing bluff with Standing and trying to wrangle control away from the legal proceedings.  He fucked up, because rather than go for admin, he tried to sell the club to himself under Standings nose, but the crooks around him didn't stand for it and leveraged Clem into matching the bid, as was his legal right.  The crooks kept their mits on the place, Clem got himself into trouble and Power/Curran got very angry, which ended with Zav taking a beating and cars being abandoned in Switzerland.  We didn't so much change ownership, as simply squeeze out the one taking more than than the others behind their backs.

Anyone who voted "Yes" would probably come under pressure to justify their vote.  On this Forum at least.  Beyond a perfectly reasonable - but not quite logical - "fear that the alternative could turn out even worse", I'd appreciate someone with confidence in Clem poking their head above the parapet and arguing their corner.  Or just explaining it's a hunch etc.  Have to be interested in different opinions to my own.

Personally, I'm not watching Town quite as much these days due to being very low about STFC on and off pitch.  I'm not boycotting as such and will be attending tomorrow without really knowing why.  Neither have I resigned from the Trust although I have put my views to them.  But I'm not doing anything to bring about change.  One of the Apathetics, I s'pose.

Bravo to those who are more active, tbf. 

Season ticket holders aren't just the ones need polling. They're the most likely to be ones not knowing what is going on because they're still buying.

Gates have dropped from closer to 10k to closer to 6k, that's an indictment in itself.

There isn't. I suspect its from people that say things like "trust the process" and "back the team not the regime" and go about their merry way without thinking about any of it.

Me after seeing the results 

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+%25+of+the+population+is+insane&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=6449538529ffda2f&sxsrf=ADLYWILHNhoN29x03vOlSSZS84V0fH4UdQ%3A1728127856799&ei=cCMBZ6y8MOS2hbIPoZvRiAE&ved=0ahUKEwistJ_4kfeIAxVkW0EAHaFNFBEQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=what+%25+of+the+population+is+insane&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiIndoYXQgJSBvZiB0aGUgcG9wdWxhdGlvbiBpcyBpbnNhbmUyBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgsQABiABBiGAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMggQABiiBBiJBTIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGKIEGIkFMggQABiABBiiBEiHF1DvClj3DnACeACQAQCYAYABoAGKBaoBAzEuNbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCBKAC0QPCAgUQABiABJgDAIgGAZIHAzEuM6AHqiM&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Thanks to everyone who voted in this poll - would love to see it repeated across other media channels. I hope it is useful to the Trust in terms of giving a clear insight into the mood of (at least part of) the STFC fanbase.

Time to go .

Concerned that 6 happy clappers voted yes!

no... no.... no.... no....... no.....yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXdCa6zyBdI

This.