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Title: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 07:54:06
list following the conclusion of the 2023/24 campaign:

2023-24 retained list

Under contract for 2024/25

Ricky Aguiar
Jake Cain
Aaron Drinan
Anton Dworzak
Pharrell Johnson
Harrison Minturn
Tariq Uwakwe

Option taken to extend contract

Jack Bycroft
Paul Glatzel
Udoka Godwin-Malife
Saidou Khan
Williams Kokolo

Out of contract (offered new deal)

Sean McGurk
Nnamdi Ofoborh

Out of contract (released)

Charlie Austin
Tomi Adeloye
Frazer Blake-Tracy
Conor Brann
Tom Brewitt
Tom Clayton
Reece Devine
Brooklyn Genesini
Rushian Hepburn-Murphy
George McEachran
Tyrese Shade

Loans returning to parent club

Dawson Devoy (Franchise)
Zach Elbouzedi (AIK)
Harry McKirdy (Hibernian)
Conor McCarthy (Barnsley)


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: UTR on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 07:56:45
So we basically paid compo (in a way) for UGM and only gave him a one year deal. Makes sense.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 07:56:54
Well that will obviously be McGurk and Oforboh off then

Khan only extended so they can get a fee i suspect

Odd that UGM was only on a 1 year deal?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 07:56:57
Not really any surprises there TBH.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 07:57:28
So we basically paid compo (in a way) for UGM and only gave him a one year deal. Makes sense.

Nothing makes sense with this lot in charge


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 07:59:32
12 kept om then, higher earners released. Being honest, not bothered about most staying - probably Glatzel & that's it. The rest were fairly pony all season.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:00:07
I hear locally that Genesini has a deal in place to join my local team Yeovil, its his home town team. I think theres a decent player in him obviously his face didnt fit.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:01:22
Shade will end up at Solihull i think, he loves it there and they love him


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:02:17
Shade will end up at Solihull i think, he loves it there and they love him

And will probably score against us next season


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:02:41
Meh,

Would like to see McGurk & Ofoborh stay.

 I’d certainly be intrigued to see what Khan could do further up the pitch with Ofoborh behind him but not sure it would be worth triggering a year extension for a ‘maybe this might work’ hypothesis

Year 1 Tom Clayton was a decent prospect a shame we couldn’t get something short term low risk - potentially high reward done.


Mad that UGM was a 1 year deal but Uwakwe was a 2 year deal


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:04:15
Quote
Under contract for 2024/25

Ricky Aguiar
Jake Cain
Aaron Drinan
Anton Dworzak
Pharrell Johnson
Harrison Minturn
Tariq Uwakwe

Jesus if you had to pick seven players to already be under contract you couldn't do much worse than that.

Nothing on contracts for the kids at all?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:05:44
Keeping Ofoborh will be big if possible.

Two or three under contract that need to be shifted though. Cain/Aguiar particularly. Dworzak probably as well.

Minturn has potential. Not sure we saw enough of Uwakwe (or what his position is), Johnson is a long term project. Drinan is decent for league 2.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:06:28
Shade will end up at Solihull i think, he loves it there and they love him
Hes one of their own isnt he. Hometown club where he started.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:08:25
https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59328.msg1689579#msg1689579

Squad down to 12 guaranteed plus 2 contracts offered - 1 keeper, 4 defenders, 5 midfielders + 2 offered contracts and 2 forwards.

Of the 14 you'd probably think 8 are reasonably involved in the first team next season, then Johnson, Minturn, Cain, Uwakwe, Dworzak & Aguiar are more fringe/prospects.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:11:18
We have 6/7 players there under contract that aren’t good enough.

So we realistically need another 15 players to compete at a half decent level next season, oh, and let’s not forget we need a manager too.

As things stand - we are fucked.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:11:28
Odd that all the January signings had the extension option except McGurk


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:12:59
But, but they told us they all had one!


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:13:59
But, but they told us they all had one!

Indeed, but others posted on here that none of them did.

As ever, the truth is somewhere in the middle


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:16:24
I wonder if McGurk extensions terms were something we just simply couldn’t afford & have tried negotiating accordingly…


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:19:16
Indeed, but others posted on here that none of them did.

As ever, the truth is somewhere in the middle

With an exciting third option in that Johnson appears to have just had a longer contract to begin with, rather than an option.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: UTR on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:19:43
Gunning in the Adver after the Tranmere match

 “Speaking ahead of their clash with Harrogate Town this weekend, Gunning was asked about the start that McGurk had made and the interim head coach did nothing to dampen expectations surrounding the youngster.

He said: “Sean will be here next year, I have seen people getting excited thinking he is going back to Leeds, but he is our player, and he will be here.””

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/24156334.swindon-town-fans-get-excited-young-players/


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:21:14
I wonder if McGurk extensions terms were something we just simply couldn’t afford & have tried negotiating accordingly…
This is the issue that has been insinuated. He was due a decent pay hike in his Lids contract and as we took it over we are negotiating a lower deal.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:27:56
Who wants a comedically early depth chart to fill you with fear...


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:28:49
I think Click to edit has potential to be a decent keeper tbf

#sneaky edit there Nemo


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:29:28
I think Click to edit has potential to be a decent keeper tbf

We've had worse.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:30:25
I assume we’ll hear something about the U18s soon.
So the likes of McGregor & Hunt (and others) will pad out that depth chart slightly.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:31:46
…and if we are going to go with a team / squad of cheap kids - I’d rather they at least be our own cheap kids…


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:32:08
Redman-Evans too


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:33:53
Last year (and this year according to advisory board notes) they'll only announce the kids who have signed contracts for er, "safeguarding reasons", so there won't be a proper retained list exactly.

But yeah I'd expect McGregor, Evans and Hart at least to get contracts, and Kanu to get some sort of extended scholarship. Hubbard maybe but we're probably doing okay for technical lightweight midfielders.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:37:58
Not sure we saw enough of Uwakwe (or what his position is)
Uwakwe was naturally a central attacking midfielder whe he was at Chelsea and played a fair few games for Crewe in that position, they moved him out to left wing. He played central midifled for England U19 and U20 team too.

We are the first team to play him as a left wingback which didnt seem to suit him from what I saw.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: iParadise on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:41:01
Nice to see a lot of the deadwood leave.

I hope Ofoborh stays. He, Glatzel and UGM are the only ones I want to see in the starting line up next season.

I'd like McGurk to sign but i doubt he will.

Khan and Kokolo are worth keeping but i imagine we'll most likely sell Kahn, and honestly, i wouldn't blame the club for that. Way too inconstant for my liking.   

Manager announcement soon?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:42:58
Coca Cola is a positive, lets get McGurk.

A really poor team this season.



Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:48:45
Some material left to work with I suppose.
What matters more is can a proper back bone be recruited, preferably tungsten & not rubber.

Glad that there were no punts taken on the chronic sicknotes. We just didn't get enough value out of them & I include RHM in that.

Might have got a better return from Austin had he been plated exclusively as an out & out striker & not some faux in game utility player.
Too many crosses went where Austin's head would have been had it not still been chugging its way from midfield.
Needs must I guess with a team primarily composed of embryos.

Not particularly sad to see any of them go


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 08:56:41
Not particularly sad to see any of them go
This. Never been so "meh" about a retained/released list ever. All under achievers.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:16:35
This. Never been so "meh" about a retained/released list ever. All under achievers.

I'm much more exercised about the ones we still have. 12 contracted players and I'm sure we'd release at least four or five of them if we could...


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:25:29
Some of the under contract will be offloaded or loaned out, surely

Glatzel/UGM being signed it's the one good bit


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:31:12
Well, that list was totally underwhelming. The downward spiral continues.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: iParadise on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:35:23
Some of the under contract will be offloaded or loaned out, surely

Glatzel/UGM being signed it's the one good bit

Aguiar should be an easy sell the a NL side


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:39:47
Getting McGurk & Ofoborh signed up would provide a small crumb of hope.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:44:33
See this as fairly positive myself. I wouldn't have been surprised to see a few others kept, and with wasted wages for players like Clayton, Devine, Adeloye and Genesini now freed up we should (in theory) be able to move forward more effectively.

Assuming we keep McGurk and Ofoborh and don't sell anyone, I reckon we now need to recruit one GK, three full backs, two CBs, two AMs and two STs. That's 10 players to replace the 15 departing, giving a total squad of 25 players plus any youths who move up. Plenty of room for a new manager to make his mark if we recruit well, and if they're given freedom to build a team. Big ifs though.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Anonymous77 on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 09:49:57
Aguiar should be an easy sell the a NL side
Worthing in the NL South play-off final on Monday, i’d imagine that would suit Aguiar if they go up.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 10:49:12
Well, that list was totally underwhelming. The downward spiral continues.

Not sure I agree. Yet. Got to see who we replace them with.

I agree those still under contract is underwhelming, but I think I'd feel worse at this stage had we kept the majority we released.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: iParadise on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 10:55:37
Well, that list was totally underwhelming. The downward spiral continues.

I cant see your view point. Surely getting rid of the deadwood is only a good thing?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 10:57:30
Maybe hoping more had left?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 11:32:34
So Austin has said he wasn't on crazy wages (which in truth, I had heard).


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Anonymous77 on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 11:46:53
I cant see your view point. Surely getting rid of the deadwood is only a good thing?
Spot on, we have suffered this season because we had so much deadwood left from 22/23 season.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 11:52:27
So largely as expected then. If he’s fit no way will Glatzel be here come the end of August, someone with some ambition is sure to be looking at him.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 11:58:31
So largely as expected then. If he’s fit no way will Glatzel be here come the end of August, someone with some ambition is sure to be looking at him.

While we won't resist a decent bid (January would be my guess), I could see Glatzel himself wanting to get a solid season in before moving on.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Steak supper on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 12:10:49
 the tide has swept the flotsam and jetsam away.  but we have been left with a skeleton crew.

Hopefully , Milton Keynes and other division 4/NL clubs will have some decent prospects for us to develop for them.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 12:24:55
Strange times, these. Still that lingering hope that there is good news of a Morfuni & Co exit hours away which would change everything. If it wasn’t for that, I would turn off for 3 months. It’s the hope….

We can’t even back ourselves to hold onto a Leeds youth reject, with a handful of league appearances to his name. How we’ve fallen.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 12:46:22
I wonder if McGurk extensions terms were something we just simply couldn’t afford & have tried negotiating accordingly…

Maybe one was never part of McGurks agents plans. If he turned the corner on injuries and performed well enough he’d be daft to tie him down to us just in case. Equally if he showed just enough to keep us interested then he could negotiate a contract at the end of the season. He may still end up here if no one else comes in for him.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 12:47:33
the tide has swept the flotsam and jetsam away.  but we have been left with a skeleton crew.

Hopefully , Milton Keynes and other division 4/NL clubs will have some decent prospects for us to develop for them.

Aguiar likely to go back out on loan to help pay his last year.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Bob1978 on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 15:00:35
Well we still have 11 players who can cover all the positions which is more than we've been left with in the past (all be it some are injured). Now we need another 11 of better or potentially better fit players to compete for the places.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 15:12:28
"Taxi for Aguiar and Dvorzak" please


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 15:18:21
Joel Mcgregor, Sonny Hart, Jaxon Brown and Cameron Redman-Evans offered pro deals according to LS Pod


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 15:29:40
Cameron Redman-Evans

Is this an in joke? Isn't Redman his actual first name?

Would make sense as the group offered. I'd hope Kanu gets a scholarship extension too, considering he's been out injured all season.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 15:30:47
Surely thats Cameron & Redman Evans?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 15:31:58
"Jamie, a quiet word if you will."
"Of course Adam, whatever you want."

To be fair young Sonny does have some potential from what I've seen.

I wish them well on their journeys.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: blinkpip on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 16:16:22
While we won't resist a decent bid (January would be my guess), I could see Glatzel himself wanting to get a solid season in before moving on.
Need to be like Peterborough and hold onto them for a few years and drive the value up more (or were never progress).
Not make a quick buck like have in the past. :(


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 16:17:03
Is this an in joke? Isn't Redman his actual first name?

Would make sense as the group offered. I'd hope Kanu gets a scholarship extension too, considering he's been out injured all season.

My bad, i thought that was his name!

Fair play for being named after a 90’s hip hop artist though



Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 16:47:03
"Jamie, a quiet word if you will."
"Of course Adam, whatever you want."
Gotta admit I was hoping he’d be let go in the hope Adam might completely disappear from the club, never going to happen though of course so he’ll continue his project then!


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: TailBetweenLegs on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 16:52:14
Joel Mcgregor, Sonny Hart, Jaxon Brown and Cameron Redman-Evans offered pro deals according to LS Pod
Remember back in January when everyone ws saying we had sold all these players


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 17:40:43
Remember back in January when everyone ws saying we had sold all these players
Don’t you have to offer a deal to get a fee?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: TailBetweenLegs on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 19:16:52
Possibly but rumours were rife we had sold a shed load of players including the keeper


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 19:52:15
I’ll find it hard to have any positive feelings about any Sonny Hart first team appearances, as I might have for other youth teamers. Hope we sell him to Inverness Caledonian Thistle for the price of a bag of crisps and he takes his lowlife father with him.  


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 20:37:14
Possibly but rumours were rife we had sold a shed load of players including the keeper
Well yeah, I heard he was probably going to Bristol City so were lots of rumours going round. I guess we’ll see what happens, I’d expect some to be cashed in on.

For the ones that are still here, finding a decent loan would be a help.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: magicroundaboutred on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 20:59:28
Heard a rumour that we have had a substantial  bid for Jaxon Brown


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 2, 2024, 22:17:59
Heard a rumour that we have had a substantial  bid for Jaxon Brown


Quantify substantial.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 3, 2024, 05:03:22
‘I’d like a bar of chocolate, please’.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, May 3, 2024, 07:17:37
Quantify substantial.

A Mercedes


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 3, 2024, 10:19:04
Heard a rumour that we have had a substantial  bid for Jaxon Brown
A few higher league clubs have been watching him, we got him from Spurs U15s so has some good junior coaching behind him.

I understand his dad is an ex Pox player but I cant remember thier name for the life of me.

We did definately sell 1 youth player to Villa earlier this season for a fee.


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 3, 2024, 10:53:08
I understand his dad is an ex Pox player but I cant remember thier name for the life of me.

Mr Brown ;)


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 3, 2024, 11:01:37
Mr Brown ;)
In this day and age we can assume nothing, Mr, Mrs, Miss....


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 3, 2024, 11:16:06
Mr Brown ;)

Are you telling me that Jaxon is Paddington's adoptive brother?


Title: Re: Retained list
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 3, 2024, 12:04:41
Are you telling me that Jaxon is Paddington's adoptive brother?

The marmalade sandwiches were the clue