Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: BrightonRed on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 11:48:49 As far as I can gather this is how we're gonna line-up against Wales... 4-5-1 with Beckham as a holding midfielder.
I'm gonna reserve judgement. I'm glad that Wright-Phillips finds a place in the team but I think Defoe deserves his chance to partner Rooney. And Beckham as the deep midfielder?? http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/trebblej82/formation.jpg Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: CARTMAN on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 11:52:03 phil neville????????? surely we must have at least one half decent right back. o'hanlon for england :wink: sven out
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 12:05:24 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
I think I'll go straight home after the Walsall game. Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 12:23:13 5 in midfield against the mghty wales, what a joke! Also, if you do play that formation wouldn't you want cole and w-p's pushed further forward and lampard and gerrard in front of becks?
I think becks will get sent off sat, he can't tackle for shit! Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: McLovin on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 13:08:52 Beckham should stay on the right, Carrick in the centre holding. That would make much more sense.
Agreed with Phil Neville. How the fuck has he got so many england caps? Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: BrightonRed on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 13:14:05 Quote from: "land_of_bo" Also, if you do play that formation wouldn't you want cole and w-p's pushed further forward and lampard and gerrard in front of becks? I would imagine this would be the case.. the BBC squad selector's attempt at a 4-5-1 isn't very good! Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 13:31:50 In theory it is not a bad formation as Joe Cole and Shaun Wright-Phillips will be in much the same positions as they play for Chelsea as will Lampard and Gerrard will be used in the same way he would have if he'd signed for Chelsea. Rooney is ideal for the striker role, the problem is Beckham is not really suited for the Makalele role but hopefully he can do a job there, should work ok though.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 13:34:50 for the first time ever I'm going to say SVEN OUT
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: BrightonRed on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 13:37:17 Probably a bit more like this..
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/trebblej82/formation1.jpg Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: le god cuervo on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 13:38:33 Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant" Beckham should stay on the right, Carrick in the centre holding. That would make much more sense. agree with that, beckham is shit in the centre. if it were me though i would stay with 4-4-2 and drop beckham for another striker. not a fan of 4-5-1. i heard on the radio a minute ago it was the players who wanted to play this formation & sven has bowed to the pressure? will go link hunting... Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: McLovin on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 14:21:11 I really think that against world class sides, Gerrard and Lampard will struggle to play in the same side unless they have a holding deep midfielder. I think this is what Sven is trying to do, but he's picked completely the wrong bloke.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Spud on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 14:33:50 This would be my 4-5-1 for England, SVEN OUT, ME IN!.
Robinson Young Ferdinand Carragher Cole Carrick Wright-Phillips Lampard Gerrard J.Cole Rooney Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: adje on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 14:44:37 If Beckham plays in the middle we know its him who runs the team-fucking arrogant twat!He shouldn't even be in the side on his recent(past 12 games) form!
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: DV on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 15:17:14 4-5-1 *yawn* why is everyone doing this all of a sudden
What a crap formation... 4-4-2 has worked for years Looks to me like we are playing 5 in the middle, just so Beckham keeps his place, get him out and Gerrard. Get Carrick to hold and Defoe up front Robinson Neville Ferdinand Carragher Cole Wright-Phillips Carrick Lampard Cole Defoe Rooney Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Spud on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 15:17:31 Quote from: "adje" If Beckham plays in the middle we know its him who runs the team-fucking arrogant twat!He shouldn't even be in the side on his recent(past 12 games) form! Agreed which is why he isnt in my line up. Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 15:19:05 Quote from: "DV85" Looks to me like we are playing 5 in the middle, just so Beckham keeps his place, get him out and Gerrard. Get Carrick to hold and Defoe up front :shock:Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: BrightonRed on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 15:57:48 Quote from: "STFC Village" Quote from: "DV85" Looks to me like we are playing 5 in the middle, just so Beckham keeps his place, get him out and Gerrard. Get Carrick to hold and Defoe up front :shock:This is exactly the post I was gonna make. In fact, I'll do it too: Quote from: "DV85" Looks to me like we are playing 5 in the middle, just so Beckham keeps his place, get him out and Gerrard. Get Carrick to hold and Defoe up front :shock:Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 16:17:11 I was reading on the 606 board a couple of weeks ago a thread where loads of people were saying that Lampard and Gerrard can't play together so lampard should be dropped as he's overrated anyway.
Absolute bollocks in my opinion, Lampard is not overrated at all, it was no coincidence he won the football writers player of the year award last year he was outstanding and he must play. I agree that Carrick would seem more suited to the holding midfielder role but 4-5-1 is not necessarily a bad formation, seems like Sven wants to play exactly the same formation Chelsea play and they use it to devestating effect with a number of the same players, it doesn't have to be boring or negative and with Joe Cole and Wright-Phillips on the wings it shouldn't be, loads of very attacking players. Just unsure about Beckham's role. Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 16:24:58 Beckham may be OK in that role, spraying the ball out to either wing for w-p's and cole - can't see him hunting the ball down and breaking up too many attacks though, which is surely the main role of the deep midfielder with this formation?
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Spud on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 16:38:21 Lampard isnt over-rated but him and Gerrard havent played that well when partnered together in the middle.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 16:43:54 Beckham played well in central midfield when asked to do a job there for Real Madrid, not spectacular but good enough. I'd doubt his ability to play a holding role though.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 16:45:37 I don't think he could hold a roll and kick a ball :?
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Bedford Red on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 19:49:29 I'd have started Defoe up front in a 4-4-2.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Spud on Thursday, September 1, 2005, 19:54:59 Quote from: "Bedford Red" I'd have started Defoe up front in a 4-4-2. I agree with that, Defoe scores for fun in The Premiership so i dont know why Sven has suddenly lost faith in him?, although its different when Beckham plays crap week in week out, that armband gurantees his place.... :evil: Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: McLovin on Friday, September 2, 2005, 08:14:34 Is it just me, or has Wright-Rubbish not done a thing yet this season either? Don't think his recent form can justify him a place if he hardly gets a game.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: DV on Friday, September 2, 2005, 11:08:55 Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant" Is it just me, or has Wright-Rubbish not done a thing yet this season either? Don't think his recent form can justify him a place if he hardly gets a game. Despite hardly playing for Chelsea this season, he's got a fair few assists. He is well worth is place, he will add something England havent had in years, natural width Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: adje on Friday, September 2, 2005, 11:17:06 Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC" Quote from: "Bedford Red" I'd have started Defoe up front in a 4-4-2. I agree with that, Defoe scores for fun in The Premiership so i dont know why Sven has suddenly lost faith in him?, although its different when Beckham plays crap week in week out, that armband gurantees his place.... :evil: Trouble is Tottenham dont seem to have that much faith in him either-he rarely starts an away game. Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 17:00:28 I thought that it was a fairly easy win for England, should've been 2 or 3 nil really, Rooney was unlucky not too score and I didn't think Wales really looked like much of a threat.
Good win, formation worked ok, not sure about some of the subs. Wright-Phillips looked dangerous before he was taken off. Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: Spud on Sunday, September 4, 2005, 21:23:12 Wales were crap, i dont know what they're are going to do on Wednesday as Hartson is suspended for their next game which means no more long balls.
Title: Expected line-up / formation v Wales Post by: DV on Monday, September 5, 2005, 11:38:37 I thought Sam Ricketts played well, this time last year he was playing non-league for Telford
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