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What have police got to do with the way people drive? :sherlock:

Do you honestly need that answering?

I have to deal daily with lorry drivers pilling, totally ignoring the speed differential between me and them,  thinking that sticking your indicator on absolves you from actually paying dues care and attention when pulling out to (try to) overtake the other lorry f(or 4 miles)..

Do you hear me moaning about it?

OK yeah, you do. When I am king all lorries will be restricted to using the inside lane of the motorway between the hours of 7am and 7pm. The ones that don't like it can take solice from playing "convoy". This will lead to a mass fight over who gets to be "rubber duck".

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Also I absolutely accept there are fuckwit car drivers. We all make mistakes. But entering the motorway from the sliproad at 30mh and then building speed up one on the motorway should be dealt with by extreme public flogging.

As should trying to overtake me at the bottom of the sliproad  where there is in fact one lane, which I am about to join the motorway from. Particularly when I can't go any faster due to the van in front.

There are no road accident statistics beyond 2013 from what I can see and every year from  2005 on the numbers decrease (vehicle accident rate).

Yes

Was on the radio yesterday, sipie. Injuries and fatalities are up.

4d, less coppers means less drivers being caught being cunts

Do you have a Typical car driver attitude?I must drive at the speed I am allowed to at all times. Sod the truck that will slow me down for a few seconds whilst it overtakes. If the lorry is just pulling out with little warning then that is unacceptable and poor drving on their part. Many car drivers won't let lorries out to overtake. I applaud those that are courteous and let us out

Just had a read - absolutely correct, thought the consensus is that educating people on driving behavior would be more beneficial that visible policing.

I've been driving since the 80's and cannot say I've noticed any change in the numbers of traffic police. One thing we have more of than ever is traffic cameras, even the worst drivers would be aware of those.
Even if there were more traffic police around years ago, they must have been encountered once every fifty journeys by me.

Quite a few truckers will use their size to 'encourage you to move out of their way'. Most trucks are driven well, it is just the minority that do this.

what by indicating their intentions or just pulling out on you? There are idiots in lorries like anything else. Often it's clueless car drivers blaming truckers due to their own ignorance though.

Oh, I had a run in with an eastern European trucker who indicated as I was alongside him, but he moved anyway. I had nowhere to go except stand on the brakes and fall in behind him. The prick.

So you were in his blind spot...

Trucker still at fault sippo. Should be more aware

Perhaps he had a dashcam  :)

Alongside, I would imagine I'd have been in his mirror.

I had a similar thing happen on the M6 with some fart towing a caravan.

Then you've got the middle lane hoggers who happily sit 6 inches off your arse end while you're in lane one and they're in lane 2 and then get all upset when you pull out after indicating your intention for a month beforehand and they don't ease off or overtake.

I crossed paths with some bellend on the A419 the other week. As I was nearing entering the carriageway he didn't pull out and actually sped up so he was closing in and was seemingly trying to make my entry more difficult.

I just kept it planted and pulled in front of him anyway. He could've pulled out but decided to be a dick, so fuck him. I knew it'd piss him off, well at least I hoped it would, and he didn't disappoint, he went apoplectic.

How long ago did this thread stop being about telly?

Or do dashcams count now?  :cry:

Truckers gonna blame car drivers, car drivers gonna blame truckers...  This is an unwinnable debate..

Same argument as, car drivers have to "think bike" but bike riders don't "think car" when undertaking at high speed in heavy traffic..

I am a considerate car driver, to all other vehicle types, I just assume that all other vehicle drivers are idiots and will do unexplained things without notice.  This thought pattern has saved from numerous potential scrapes/accidents in the past.

Motorway/dual carriageway driving should be a part of the driving test these days.

It's not fucking difficult, get up to 56mph on the slip, check mirrors, give it a suicide glance (if your mirrors are correct you don't even need that), slip in behind the wagon.

Oh and if you're joining a motorway and decide not to slow down/speed up in order to filter in, continue down the hard shoulder until safe to join the main carriageway. The gap between me and the vehicle in front is a safety gap, not a fucking invitation...

This ^^

The absolute worst are tractors who think that the hour between 8am and 9am is the perfect time to drive along the A417.

Do you have a typical lorry driver attitude, head in the sand "I do this for a living, I must be right"?

Why "must" you drive at the speed limit, you are allowed to go slower.

You bloody do-goooder. I was going to have Arriba spitting with rage by the end of the day.

There are dick car drivers, there are dick lorry drivers. The standard of driving seems to be declining. Even basics like actually indicating, or knowing which indicator to use (especially on roundabouts) seems to be a declining skill.

No I don't.

I was referring to car drivers who refuse to slow down for a truck or get enraged in doing so. That's why I asked if you were like that from your initial comment. I didn't judge.
Bad drivers are bad drivers. It's not truckers vs cars.
I do think car drivers should be assessed periodically and do classroom sessions like truckers do.

I actually agree with that, even as a driver myself.

I'm quite a mellow guy, but at my angriest while driving due to the incompetence and general bad road manners of other drivers.

Good post but I don't entirely agree. Truckers drive cars too and when there are rtc's arguments are won and lost. There are clear right and wrongs.

You obviously drive defensively and that's how I've been encouraged to drive. it's the best and safest way.

Main principle of advanced driving isn't it. Hazard perception.

I was mainly joking by the way Arriba.

So all you fuckers are moaning about driving standards, and you wonder I have a dash cam...

Cunts.

Is it because you are paranoid, or s it to record your dogging sessions?

I'm paranoid about the mrs using my car for dogging...

:) She normally puts a sock over it :)

darn. I was hoping for a proper tear up  ;)

lets agree to hate taxi drivers. wankers.

What the dashcam or while she's out dogging?