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Hit by a lorry and in hospital with life threatening injuries.

All the best to him

Shit, that's not what I expected.

Good luck to him indeed.

BBC now reporting non-life threatening injuries...

Good luck to him all the same like!

Same as

If it's not life threatening and probably nothing at all, how's the lorry? 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2940812/Enough-Actor-Ralf-Little-accuses-former-friend-Clarke-Carlisle-not-telling-story-interview-depression-led-suicide-attempt.html

I don't like Clarke Carlisle one bit.

He's a bit like Sol Campbell, in that because he's black he's always worse off than everyone else. I do not mean that in a racist way, but he thinks he's a victim because of the colour of his skin. For example, the black manager scenario. It's not because of your race, it's because you are not good enough.

That is my opinion only, and don't wish any harm on anyone.

I cannot even comprehend what it must be like to live with depression. All the demons they must face and seeing no other way out, other than to commit suicide.

People are getting all arsey with those who say Carlisle was selfish in what he did. He was selfish. It's sad that anyone can get into that state of mind but that doesn't mean his actions were not selfish.

It is selfish and I don't disagree with that, but Clarke, as well as many with depression wouldn't be able to think rationally.

It's unfortunate that others have to be involved when someone decides to take their own life.

Exactly right.
It's all too easy to judge I know, but for all those saying that he's not selfish how about a thought for his family and friends....and not to mention the poor lorry driver who would have had to live with the fact that he had killed someone for the rest of his life.

I think more of the issue relates to Clarke Carlisle and the manner in which this is now being presented in The Sun, however to be fair to Carlisle I suspect he didn't have much to do with the way the story is being presented - however it appears to be 'victim' story.

I think more relates to the fact that Carlisle is often portrayed as this tortured genius, when actually when you read his history he comes across as something of a self centred objectionable idiot!

Not liking him is fair enough, but it's a shame you can't express it without relating it to his skin colour, and irrelevant comparisons to other black people

In fairness, when the criticism of Carlisle is based on him 'using the race card' it would be difficult not to mention the fact he's black. Comparing him to other ex footballers who have also used the same tactic is also reasonable, imo.

No he always said that black footballers were always hard done by. Yes racism does exist, but not like it used to. For me, he always saw the negative stuff.

And I feel sorry for the lorry driver more than Mr Carlisle himself. The lorry driver was 'the innocent' party and had no control over what happened, while Mr Carlisle did.

Whilst Carlisle can be a bit of a prick, depression is a horrible illness that makes otherwise perfectly reasonable people do very drastic things.

People with no experience of depression themselves or haven't seen anyone close to them suffering with it often tend to not have a clue about the seriousness of it.

Spot on about Sol Campbell, bit of a cunt feeling hard done by because he never captained England, his conclusion it MUST have been the colour of his skin and not any other factor, I mean it's not like Paul Ince or Rio Ferdinand ever captained England before or after him.

Don't get that same sort of feeling with Clarke Carlisle though.

of course I sympathise with anyone caught up in a suicide attempt/suicide.


as for Clarke having a choice, that's easy to say. But the way I look at it is how fucked up do you have to be to think your best option is to chuck yourself in front of a lorry.

he was probably only thinking of (ending) himself, the definition of selfish I supposed, but I don't think he's in a fit state to rationally think about the best way to do it without harming others.

I have experienced depression myself to the point I was on medication, but it does affect people in different ways.

It's a grizzly subject and Ralph Little clearly isn't buying it...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/05/ralf-little-attacks-clarke-carlisle-not-telling-full-story-suicide-bid_n_6619702.html

Won't somebody think of the starlings....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11175275/Has-Prozac-killed-off-our-starlings.html

Actually it's a pretty unselfish way to top yourself if what you're after is to remove your fucked up self from your family's lives whilst still leaving them provided for. Most insurance policies don't pay out on suicides, but do for traffic accidents. If you've just pissed all your family's money up the wall at the casino and your inner voice is saying "they'd be better off without me" you want to make sure that they actyually will be.

So thinking only about sorting your family but majorly fucking a complete strangers life is unselfish.

Depression is a horrible illness and you cannot understate that.

Ralf Little's point, that sometimes you just get fed up with watching the same people say they'll be better, say they'll improve, then fall back on their words again and again is an interesting one, but to use it as a stick to beat someone with an illness is a little off. You can understand his frustration perhaps, as we don't know what happened between the two of them personally. But there's a larger debate to be had as to how we diagnose psychological problems, and whether the world of sports is a it under-served in that regard.

Hell, you look at some people like Nile Ranger and you begin to wonder if he's just an A-class narcissist or whether he has a condition that needs attention.

Please don't comment, as fact, on subjects you obviously have no knowlesdge on. A lot of insurance policies DO pay out on suicides. Unless the suicide occurs within 12 months of taking out a policy. Even then a claims panel would decide whether the action of taking the policy out and suicide were premeditated. If in the firms opinion they weren't, as per a case I know of recently, the sum assured would be paid out in full.

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