Title: england vs denmark Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 19:50:47 bye bye david james
Title: england vs denmark Post by: Luci on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 19:52:22 I was so shocked at how awful that performance was. On the money these kind of players are earning you would think they could at least string a few passes together whether it be the beginning or the end of the season!
Should be an interesting one against our welsh opponents! Title: england vs denmark Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 19:54:35 we'll do the welsh over, dont you worry
Title: england vs denmark Post by: Luci on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 19:57:41 I hope so. Last season I had a bet on with a welsh pub landlord. The deal was if swindon got into the play offs I would get a free bottle of Moet and the worst bit was we didnt and also he was a swansea fan :(
Now I have the England wales match to look forward to and endless jokes about england until then :( Great Title: england vs denmark Post by: DV on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:01:01 Last football bet I made was with a Bristolian Stripper....we beat then twice last season so two free lapdances for me :D
As for England, I've been football training so missed it.....seems I didnt miss much Title: england vs denmark Post by: Luci on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:06:15 Wish I had the excuse of football training to avoid watching that rubbish.
Ah well, you win some you lose some - stating the blatently obvious. Title: england vs denmark Post by: DV on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:07:10 Quote from: "STFCLady" Wish I had the excuse of football training to avoid watching that rubbish. Ah well, you win some you lose some - stating the blatently obvious. You also draw some.....but mainly lose 8) Title: england vs denmark Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:08:49 Trouble there was too many automatic first choice players played .. they know they dont have to bother and they have important games at the weekend so only put in half the effort..
That combined with David James inability to be any semblance of a goalkeeper contributed to an embarassing defeat .. BUT .. we lost 3-1 to Australia in a friendly and it made sod all difference to our later performances. Ive every confidence still .. hope so anyway as ill be hoping for a good nite in Crete when we play the Welsh :beers: Title: england vs denmark Post by: Luci on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:09:14 Thats a good point. Im so tired my brain really isnt in gear after the day i had at work!
Title: england vs denmark Post by: DV on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:12:38 Quote from: "fatbury" Trouble there was too many automatic first choice players played .. they know they dont have to bother and they have important games at the weekend so only put in half the effort.. That combined with David James inability to be any semblance of a goalkeeper contributed to an embarassing defeat .. BUT .. we lost 3-1 to Australia in a friendly and it made sod all difference to our later performances. Ive every confidence still .. hope so anyway as ill be hoping for a good nite in Crete when we play the Welsh :beers: Surely as a manager Sven has enough choice to make these players play for their place, sadly friendlies are too umcopetitive, they are become more like pre-season friendlies. It should be an honor and a prilledge to play for country no matter where/when/who/what/how its sad because so many players pull out of friendlies 'injured' when was the last time Ryan Giggs played for Wales in a friendly? Title: england vs denmark Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:14:28 I know it's stating the odvious but if Peter Crouch was playing we would have won. FACT!
Title: england vs denmark Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:14:51 Stupid timing for a game really .. maybe a training camp would have been better?? but then that wouldnt make any money for the FA and lets face it .. thats what this game is all about.
You cant blame the players when they have 60 odd games to play and this really didnt count amongst the important ones if they are automatic first choice .. such as Gerrard Title: england vs denmark Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:16:31 Quote from: "oxford_fan" we'll do the welsh over, dont you worry We won't be that easy you'll see....what was the score for England game tonight? Title: england vs denmark Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 20:25:09 that was crap. James was awful, the defneding in the second half didn't help james either to be fair to him!
Title: england vs denmark Post by: yeo on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 21:51:35 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: england vs denmark Post by: stfc11 on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:17:08 Quote from: "stfcfan" Quote from: "oxford_fan" we'll do the welsh over, dont you worry We won't be that easy you'll see....what was the score for England game tonight? 4-1 Rooney scored for England Title: england vs denmark Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:23:20 That second half was pure gash, although what did we expect, David "Calamity" James came on! Its surely the end of the road for him, i would rather have dodgy Chris Kirkland between the sticks.
This is further proof (if any more were needed) that friendlies are a waste of time for England, only 1 of those players looked like they were up for the battle tonight, and we all know who that was. The rest couldn't give a flying fuck, while the Danes fought tooth and nail for the full 90 minutes, and got what they deserved. I still think that we will win our 2 upcoming WCQ games though..... Title: england vs denmark Post by: walrus on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:38:31 I cannot believe the interview with James afterwards, where he stated he didn't prepare properly. You're on a 5 figure-a-week salary son wake-up you fucking moron. That goal started the capitulation - I'm convinced if that hadn't gone in it'd probably have been a 0-0 game and not a bad match either.
He should be dumped from the squad for the Wales game, and give Nigel Martyn a place. Title: england vs denmark Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:43:08 SHOCK! Sven shows emotion!
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=299504&cpid=219&CLID=&lid=2&title=Sven:+We+were+still+on+holiday&channel=football_home Title: england vs denmark Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:45:42 Quote from: "Walrus" I cannot believe the interview with James afterwards, where he stated he didn't prepare properly. You're on a 5 figure-a-week salary son wake-up you fucking moron. That goal started the capitulation - I'm convinced if that hadn't gone in it'd probably have been a 0-0 game and not a bad match either. He should be dumped from the squad for the Wales game, and give Nigel Martyn a place. Nigel Martyn has had his chance and been found wanting, I feel a bit of sympathy for James as we've had a real goalkeeping problem for a whlie now.....and it would be very easy for him to retire from International football, but he answers the call with pride, but he's just not good enough, but there isn't a queue of options....Kirkland is always injured, Green was reasonably poor last season....Carson is too young. Our best hope is that Kirkland, gets a good season under his belt at WBA and so gets a late run as number 2. Title: england vs denmark Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:48:09 Rhys Evans for England!! Would provide excellent back up for Robinson, his kicking seems to have improved and he has had a pretty good start to the season :D
Title: england vs denmark Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 22:52:02 Rhys kind of exemplifies the crisis in English goalkeeping.....good enough for U21, but a long way short of even Prem standard.
Watching the England U19's recently....the keeper was at MKD, and not the fella who saved Sniff's pen, who's number 1. Title: england vs denmark Post by: Whits on Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 23:16:52 at the end of the day its like a pre season friendly, although the players should be honoured to wear the 3 lions and play there heart out.
I wouldn't read much into todays performance apart from james ain't good enough Title: england vs denmark Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 00:24:47 I don't watch England friendlies because they're invariably shit and a waste of time, I didn't watch tonight's game and it proved my point quite nicely I think.
It sums up everything I hate about football lately, at least the England cricket team show pride. Title: england vs denmark Post by: Spud on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 04:46:48 Funny how when the players came out for the 2nd half and i saw James was in goal, i turned to my Dad and said "this is where we lose the game!" and what a fucking surprise we let in 4 with that excuse of a keeper in goal, do us all a favour James and fucking retire!. :evil:
Title: england vs denmark Post by: McLovin on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 08:16:35 Who will Ericsson never let Defoe play a whole game? Especially as he will be starting against Wales. THere was absolutely no point in putting Owen on last night whatsoever.
I know people will say "it's only a friendly" but at the end of the day, on their wages, they should want to win for their nation. It's a matter of pride, surely? Title: england vs denmark Post by: Johno on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 09:38:29 i would have given Owen a run out, but i would have just taken Rooney off with about 20 minutes to go.
Defoe needed to play 90 minutes to be given a full chance to show. Problem is, is that sven has said he knows the starting 11 for the wqolrd cup, what a stupid thing to say! cause those people know who they are who aren't going to make the squad anyway, whatever you do. the likes of Defoe, Carragher, Crouch etc...don't have a chance. makes them less motivated, and make the players that are obviously starting at the world cup alot more relaxed and don't bother trying to much to impress sven. Title: england vs denmark Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 10:47:09 Something which annoyed me last night was idiot Trever Frances commentry. He kept slating Rooney about his temper when in fact Rooney was the only guy who seemed up for the game and was running his socks off. If he lost the ball he would chase and chase until he won it back.
Glen Johnson was also truely awful. shouldn't be picked again and also James should never be England goalkeeper. He is shockingly shit. FACT Also why play Owen when he isn't even available for the Wales game. Should have given Defoe 90mins. Title: england vs denmark Post by: Spud on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 13:39:00 Trevor Francis is possibly the worst commentator ever, people say its only a friendly but surely when you pull on that England shirt the importance of the game goes out the window whether its a World cup QF or a friendly, its all about pride and passion which most of the squad lack.
Too many of the players are running the national team which is why we need an Englishman back in charge to put them back down a peg or two. Title: england vs denmark Post by: janaage on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 14:36:11 Personally I reckon Martin O'Neill would make a good England manager. Can't really think of too many outstanding English candidates right now.
Please note this has been written by a man who wanted Strachan as the next Scotland manager instead of Smith, so I could be wrong here. Title: england vs denmark Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 14:42:17 Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant" Who will Ericsson never let Defoe play a whole game? Especially as he will be starting against Wales. THere was absolutely no point in putting Owen on last night whatsoever. as sven explained, owen will most likely be playing against ireland and due to the competition for places at real he thought he'd give him 45mins of football. defoe will play lots of football before the wales match, owen might not before the ireland one.Title: england vs denmark Post by: McLovin on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 14:43:37 If Owen doesn't play much football, then he shouldn't be guaranteed his starting place for England then.
Title: england vs denmark Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 14:57:45 he should if he can score more goals for england than defoe or any other striker.
Title: england vs denmark Post by: McLovin on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 14:58:51 He was shit last night.
OWEN OUT! Title: england vs denmark Post by: janaage on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 15:11:37 Bring back Mooney!!
Title: england vs denmark Post by: Johno on Thursday, August 18, 2005, 20:48:13 Quote from: "janaage" Bring back Mooney!! how about no! and yes, if Owen ain't playing why is he guaranteed a place in the team? it ain't fair on Defoe at all, as it doesn't matter what he does. he could score 30+ goals by the look of it, and not play. |