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Title: Reading Post by: kerry red on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 13:20:36 Know we haven't played them for ages but do people still see them as a local rival or has time apart dulled it?
Personally, I have never thought of them as anything other than just another club and would probably be the model to follow if possible. Saying that, I enjoyed immensely Kuffour's best ever game for us at the Madjeski in that 3-0 win (or was it 3-1 - I had been on the beer) Title: Re: Reading Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 13:33:34 Its another where they see us a rivals more than us them, or used to be.
Guess they have new higher league rivals now we have been left in their wake :cry: Admire the way Madjeski took them forward tho, not so sure about the russian in there too now Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 13:41:14 Our oldest derby
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 14:22:03 The Reading rivalry has never enthused me. It's almost certainly due to lack of competitive fixtures over the last 20 years.
I acknowledge Oxford as the 'big one' but having been raised in West Wilts, marrying in to a City supporting family and living in Bedminster, Bristol City is the 'big one' for me. Title: Re: Reading Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 14:26:19 I'm probably on the same page as you Rich. Coming from 'nam which at the time have had bristol and Swindon split pox and reading was never really a big thing for me.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 14:26:57 A lot needs to change for the better in our case and the worse in their case, for this to be a regular fixture again. in the years since we last played them, they've become a Prem/Championship yo-yo team us more of a Div3/4 yo-yo team.
I suppose the best chance of meeting them is in the LC....especially as it's a comp we've never been drawn together in. Title: Re: Reading Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 14:40:44 Couldn't care less about them. They're in the same ball park as Forfar or Colchester in my give a toss-ometer.
They hate Aldershot anyway so no need for them to hate anyone else. They tried a few years ago to invent a hatred between themselves and us or Scum and there's not many things us and the Scummers agree on but Reading being irrelevant is one. Title: Re: Reading Post by: suttonred on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 14:47:14 Kerry probably too new on the forum, but this has been done several times. It all depends where you were born. I was born in Reading so it's them I hate, as all of my reading supporting mates could confirm with conviction. I couldn't give a hoot about the bristol's, oxford a bit meh tbh.
Title: Re: Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 14:50:10 Means and has always meant only slightly more to me than an average fixture. And I think thats only because I used to live in the area.
To me the rivalry is a bit like with Cheltenham. Title: Re: Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 15:00:46 Means and has always meant only slightly more to me than an average fixture. And I think thats only because I used to live in the area. To me the rivalry is a bit like with Cheltenham. I hate Cheltenham....seen us win plenty of times at Reading, but never at Whaddon Road >:( Title: Re: Reading Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 16:16:20 Reading just about registers on the rivalry scale, but barely. Oxford and City top the list for me, in that order. Them I guess Rovers. Reading really would be on a par with Gillingham and Cheltenham - I don't much care, but it's nice to beat them purely because it winds them up.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 17:06:14 Know we haven't played them for ages but do people still see them as a local rival or has time apart dulled it? 3-1 is how I remember it. I come from Newbury so Reading will always be the local derby for me. I don't dislike them like I dislike Oxford mind......Personally, I have never thought of them as anything other than just another club and would probably be the model to follow if possible. Saying that, I enjoyed immensely Kuffour's best ever game for us at the Madjeski in that 3-0 win (or was it 3-1 - I had been on the beer) Title: Re: Reading Post by: tans on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 17:21:56 They all suppory Chelsea every other weekend anyway
Title: Re: Reading Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 17:51:10 3-1 is how I remember it. I come from Newbury so Reading will always be the local derby for me. I don't dislike them like I dislike Oxford mind...... Yep, it was 3-1. Invincibile got one, Graz another. http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20020112 Title: Re: Reading Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 17:52:53 Ruddock wound their fans up a right treat after the final whistle, probably his most valuable contribution for us
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 17:57:26 Actually could have be Gurney, fuck knows they hated it anyway, great afternoon that.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 17:57:43 Yep, it was 3-1. Invincibile got one, Graz another. Interesting the number of future (and ex) Swindon players were in Reading's team that day.http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20020112 Title: Re: Reading Post by: kerry red on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 18:01:11 Got to say I would have never remembered Paul Edwards
Enjoy www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBk9gbpYeg Title: Re: Reading Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 18:44:33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFasFq4GJYM
'And we'll never be royals, It don't run in our blood, That kind of luxe just ain't for us. We crave a different kind of buzz' Well said that girl. Title: Re: Reading Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 18:45:25 Reading just about registers on the rivalry scale, but barely. Oxford and City top the list for me, in that order. Them I guess Rovers. Reading really would be on a par with Gillingham and Cheltenham - I don't much care, but it's nice to beat them purely because it winds them up. We probably haven't played Reading in your time, but take it from me a Railwaymen v Biscuitmen game is infinitely more interesting than a game v Pikeys. Title: Re: Reading Post by: RedRag on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 18:57:41 I too was living in the Newbury area when I caught the Town fever but I can honestly say Reading was never about more than half-hearted local bragging rites.
I have walked casually right through pitched battles outside Elm Park in a way that I would never have dared outside the Manor or Ashton Gate. Gills was a pretty hot atmosphere back in the day but agree not really sustainable. True Rivals for me are Pox followed closely by Shitty. Thereafter take your pick according to where you live, how often we have played recently, any recent off-pitch incidents, history etc Title: Re: Reading Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 18:58:08 Depends where you live I hate the plastic cunts far more than both Brizzle teams
Title: Re: Reading Post by: RedRag on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:05:30 I guess your moniker is a tad edgier and closer to the mark now than Reg's self-consciously traditional "biscuitmen".
I could never bring myself to truly hate a "biscuitman" Title: Re: Reading Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:08:14 Too young. Couldn't really give a monkeys about 'em. Other than the next stop on the railway, I see no real connection.
I did enjoy giving them grief about losing to Swansea in that pre-season friendly in Di Canio's first year mind. Title: Re: Reading Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:08:56 I could never bring myself to truly hate a "biscuitman" Could you dunk one though?Title: Re: Reading Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:11:20 Could you dunk one though? That'd be 'Nice'. Title: Re: Reading Post by: suttonred on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:18:45 I stuck a Reading fans head down a toilet and flushed it once, does that count as dunking?
Title: Re: Reading Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:23:44 I stuck a Reading fans head down a toilet and flushed it once, does that count as dunking? It is either that or a Royals Flush. Coat. Title: Re: Reading Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:12:24 I've lived in Reading for nearly 30years and have never hated them. Think its because a lot of my closest mates are big fans. I also remember standing on their old South Bank with my mates in my teens when they were only getting 3-4k at home.
It's annoying that they're doing better than us but no hatred from me. Still massive when we play them though. That 3-1 was superb and has been mentioned more than a few times since. Ruddock was a fucking god that day!!! Title: Re: Reading Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:40:47 I don't hate Reading at all. Even have a barely disguised admiration for what they have achieved, if I'm honest. But...I would love to get that fixture back on a regular basis - because, after a few years of regular encounters, I think it could dwarf anything we have currently in terms of rivalry.
An exchange from another thread a couple of years ago, not long before the away game at Oxford, still sums up my thinking on this one... I'm getting bored of this game already, can't wait for it to be over. I don't even care if we win, lose or draw, just as long as we get promoted out of this shithole of a division. This is precisely why I want out of this division, and want Oxford to stay in it. As rivalries go, this is one is nasty, brutal and small time. I want the game out of the way and then to leave Oxford in our shadow once again. Hopefully, soon enough, we'll then get an opportunity to remind ourselves what big games vs City and Reading are like. A ticket allocation of 1,250 for a game like this tells you everything you need to know about where Oxford and this rivalry sits in the pecking order. Once we have redeveloped, we'll be giving Reading, City or whoever allocations of 4,000 to 5,000 and expecting the same in return. Much more interesting. Title: Re: Reading Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:48:54 Not sure we would take 4/5k anywhere these days in the league ( yeah I know 3k at Cov last season )
Rival games have a habit of changing the crowd make up tho - ppl who usually travel sometimes wont due to trouble and plenty come out the woodwork for exactly that Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:50:51 I'd go :)
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:52:56 I think I was imagining what we could build after a few seasons at Reading's level. Maybe 4,000 to 5,000 was stretching it a little, but the point stands. The City and Reading rivalries were around decades before Oxford even existed...so the fixation a lot of fans have with Oxford has always irritated me a little.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:56:44 I think I was imagining what we could build after a few seasons at Reading's level. Maybe 4,000 to 5,000 was stretching it a little, but the point stands. The City and Reading rivalries were around decades before Oxford even existed...so the fixation a lot of fans have with Oxford has always irritated me a little. City have always been the main rival for me, hate the pox too, gas less so. Indifferent to Reading/Cheltenham and couldnt give a flying one for the pikeys. Title: Re: Reading Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 20:58:09 The shitness of Oxford's ground and therefore crap allocation definately has a detrimental effect on the derby games there and therefore the rivalry as a whole at the moment.
Compare that to March 15th, around 3k in that away end at Ashton Gate will create an immense atmosphere and proper derby day feel. I've always hated City more than Oxford anyway. Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 22:17:04 Ooh, I'll go to that one.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 22:24:20 Compare that to March 15th, around 3k in that away end at Ashton Gate will create an immense atmosphere and proper derby day feel. I've always hated City more than Oxford anyway. Not even sure we will get 3k Wolves sold out their allocation of 2200 Title: Re: Reading Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 22:57:41 Im working tat day. Make it 2999.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 23:13:48 We haven't taken huge numbers to City in recent years.
1432 in the Carling Cup in 2011 1000ish(?) the year we got relegated 1826 in 2004 when Darius Henderson got that brace The last time we got close to 3k was 2684 in the 03/04 season. Then again, who knows. If we're on a roll then optimism might swell the numbers. Plus it's been a while since we played there in the league. Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 23:20:35 I was one of the approx 3k in 91.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:27:52 Away followings have never been as vast as 3/4k. The biggest one's I remember are usually in seasons where we have something riding on the game or are doing quite well. If the boot was on the other foot and City visited us in March, I'd imagine they'd bring big numbers because they have more to lose as they (at the moment) are fighting relegation.
Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:30:22 6000 to Fulham (cup game mind).
Title: Re: Re: Re: Reading Post by: Only Me on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:43:58 6000 to Fulham (cup game mind). 9,000 to old trafford in the cup, when we losr 2-1 (after being 1-0 up)Title: Re: Reading Post by: DMR on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:44:32 Fuck me there are some serious delusions of grandeur on here.
Reading's a massive game. Title: Re: Reading Post by: DMR on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:46:17 9,000 to old trafford in the cup, when we losr 2-1 (after being 1-0 up) Pretty sure we were losing and Thorne equalised with an absolute worldy (fluke). I remember being on my old man's shoulders. Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:50:02 Pretty sure we were losing and Thorne equalised with an absolute worldy (fluke). I remember being on my old man's shoulders. My brother in law was in the home end :) (supporting town) Title: Re: Reading Post by: kerry red on Friday, January 31, 2014, 13:53:40 One of the best away followings given the context of a weekday night game and a wanky competition (Simod Cup) was Luton away.
Never felt so crushed at a ground since the 4-3 Arsenal game at the CG Title: Re: Reading Post by: 4D on Friday, January 31, 2014, 14:00:36 I went to the cup game at Chelsea when about 500 town fans stood in the huge open away end out of a crowd of 7500. It was about -30c, and I had a denim jacket, no hat and no gloves or scarf. What a twat. It was the game when hazard missed that could have taken the game to extra time. I think someone swallowed their tongue that night too. :sherlock:
Title: Re: Reading Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, January 31, 2014, 14:15:30 One of the best away followings given the context of a weekday night game and a wanky competition (Simod Cup) was Luton away. Never felt so crushed at a ground since the 4-3 Arsenal game at the CG Cracking game that Wank stadium and the plastic pitch but a great game Of course if Bamber had played to the whistle it would have been even better Title: Re: Reading Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, January 31, 2014, 18:21:25 One of the best away followings given the context of a weekday night game and a wanky competition (Simod Cup) was Luton away. Why oh why oh why do you bring this up? Every year or so someone brings this up! I'm still bitter and scared. Still haven't forgiven Les Sealey - eventhough he's dead!Title: Re: Reading Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, January 31, 2014, 18:33:15 Couldn't care less about them. They're in the same ball park as Forfar or Colchester in my give a toss-ometer. They hate Aldershot anyway so no need for them to hate anyone else. They tried a few years ago to invent a hatred between themselves and us or Scum and there's not many things us and the Scummers agree on but Reading being irrelevant is one. But don't you just love the way that everyone ignores them ? Used to have some fun at Elm Park though. They had a system, which seems unbelievable in this day and age - the police would quiz you to death at the entrance to the "uncovered" away end, to prove you were from Swindon. Then you could pay 50p to go through an internal turnstile into the "covered" home section. They then used to look on bemused as it all kicked off in the Reading section. Title: Re: Reading Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Friday, January 31, 2014, 18:56:59 Cracking game that Wank stadium and the plastic pitch but a great game Of course if Bamber had played to the whistle it would have been even better He did play to the whistle (as did the Luton Keeper). Unfortunately the whistle was from some cunt in the crowd. That was probably the most packed away end I can remember watching Town away. Not due to numbers, just the total lack of any space to move around it was mental. Title: Re: Reading Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, January 31, 2014, 19:01:34 He did play to the whistle (as did the Luton Keeper). Unfortunately the whistle was from some cunt in the crowd. But if you remember, Les Bastard Sealey looked round after Bamber gave him the ball and gave it large to the crowd. I'm not bitter. I'm not. Honest I'm not. Really. I'm not!That was probably the most packed away end I can remember watching Town away. Not due to numbers, just the total lack of any space to move around it was mental. Title: Re: Reading Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Friday, January 31, 2014, 19:43:37 But if you remember, Les Bastard Sealey looked round after Bamber gave him the ball and gave it large to the crowd. I'm not bitter. I'm not. Honest I'm not. Really. I'm not! I might be mistaken but I thought Bamber took a half hearted shot, & Sealey just stuck a leg out and diverted the ball for a corner (because he thought it was offside too) Title: Re: Re: Re: Reading Post by: Only Me on Friday, January 31, 2014, 19:44:19 One of the best away followings given the context of a weekday night game and a wanky competition (Simod Cup) was Luton away. Ipswich awsy when we lost 6-1 in the cup was great for the Town atmosphere.Never felt so crushed at a ground since the 4-3 Arsenal game at the CG Title: Re: Reading Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, January 31, 2014, 19:48:43 I might be mistaken but I thought Bamber took a half hearted shot, & Sealey just stuck a leg out and diverted the ball for a corner (because he thought it was offside too) :nod: Title: Re: Re: Re: Reading Post by: kerry red on Friday, January 31, 2014, 20:02:40 Ipswich awsy when we lost 6-1 in the cup was great for the Town atmosphere. Ah, the Xmas tree game! We have lost the last 8 games we have played against them! Title: Re: Reading Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, January 31, 2014, 20:15:31 One of the best away followings given the context of a weekday night game and a wanky competition (Simod Cup) was Luton away. Mansfield away when we won the league was close and there were a couple at Scumland that were pretty bad a 1-1 draw and when that cunt Bumchum scored. Never felt so crushed at a ground since the 4-3 Arsenal game at the CG Title: Re: Reading Post by: kerry red on Friday, January 31, 2014, 20:30:39 I can still see Mark Walters 'doing' Beauchump in the centre circle at the CG with the ball nowhere near!
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