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Title: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:05:27
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/10960390.N_Guessan_listed_for_loan/?ref=var_0

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SWINDON Town striker Dany N’Guessan has been made available for a loan transfer away from the County Ground.

The Advertiser understands the Robins have notified Football League clubs that N’Guessan, who only arrived in Wiltshire on an initial one-year contract following his release by Millwall in the summer, is free to move on a temporary basis during the current transfer window.
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Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:07:02
Err, yeah, that makes perfect sense ...


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: china red on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:08:24
Yet we kept hold of Ranger....


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:10:49
Can only assume it's a wage cap issue. Seems an odd decision none the less. His return is decent and we are shipping him out in favour of two players we've yet to see and one who, charitably, has an issue or two.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:13:04
Can only assume it's a wage cap issue. Seems an odd decision none the less. His return is decent and we are shipping him out in favour of two players we've yet to see and one who, charitably, has an issue or two.

Exactly how I see it too. :(


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: suttonred on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:28:07
Might be something as simple, as he hasn't settled, bit out of the blue though, whatever the reason.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:30:51
Yes I suppose he isn't a guaranteed starter like he hoped and this may be player lead.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:45:21
It's odd in terms of squad numbers, not in terms of ability. He's been shit


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, January 24, 2014, 07:53:04
It's odd in terms of squad numbers, not in terms of ability. He's been shit
Disagree. He's not a world beater but has done a decent job for us. He's the one player who has probably been mucked around most by Ranger's hokey cokey.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, January 24, 2014, 08:26:28
Can only assume it's a wage cap issue. Seems an odd decision none the less. His return is decent and we are shipping him out in favour of two players we've yet to see and one who, charitably, has an issue or two.

Add to that my favourite harp.....one player who hasn't scored a single senior goal.... Perhaps Danny don't like it here? Being honest watching the last two games, all players both looked as if they didn't want to be here...


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Riddick on Friday, January 24, 2014, 08:30:19
If they wanted off the wages why not list for permanent transfer? He's been out of form and below par for a couple of months now, i reckon they are just trying to get him back firing. Could also mean Reis is close to first team?



Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, January 24, 2014, 08:45:12
If they wanted off the wages why not list for permanent transfer?



Maybe they want the option of recalling him if Ranger goes AWOL again/ or is otherwise detained.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Friday, January 24, 2014, 08:56:52
Might be something as simple, as he hasn't settled, bit out of the blue though, whatever the reason.

I seem to recall that he said something along the lines of 'he was happiest/playing best football of his career' with us. Admittedly it doesn't translate to him being settled, but you usually perform your best when you are happiest.

Strange one to say the least though...


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 24, 2014, 09:04:07
Disappointed by this, I think his attitude seems to be right, he hasn't whinged publically when hes not played and has shown some good moments of pace and power and finishing, I don't think hes been shit.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: BruceChatwin on Friday, January 24, 2014, 09:20:48
If I remember rightly he had a reputation for having a bad attitude at Millwall, which we hadn't really seen in his first couple of months at the club. Perhaps that's coming out again now he's got over the novelty of being somewhere new.

He's hardly the only culprit though. Mason has been worse in terms of effort and desire, and the overall decline in performance from where he started, in my opinion, and Luongo's not far behind.

I reckon, coming down from the championship, he's on slightly higher wages than the average player here, and with Smith and Barker now here, we've effectively gone for two hungry players for the price of one slightly less hungry player. A shame though, since when he wants to play, he's got plenty to offer. Pace, height, strength, and finishing are not easy-to-find combinations in a League 1 striker.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: london_red on Friday, January 24, 2014, 09:25:15
Where is the indication he's had a bad attitude? Missed games over Christmas with an illness, and has been used as a starter and a sub all season.

While his performances have dropped a bit since he ran the show against Port Vale, don't think he's ever shown a lack of commitment, always seemed a willing runner and worked hard to me.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: BruceChatwin on Friday, January 24, 2014, 10:37:23
Only what Millwall fans were saying after we signed him, not anything he's done here to my knowledge:

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Lazy, unproven, touch of a rapist, unfit, poor finisher, injury prone, overpaid, never fit in at any club which is why he has no real history, disruptive, arrogant and ungreatful! Is it any wonder he was offloaded. Good riddents you French f***!

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It's funny that every interveiw with DNG contains the phrase: ""I am not feeling sorry for myself ..." Not much. He couldn't work with KJ, now he can't work with Lomas. Always somebody else's fault. Anyone going to open a book on how long it takes him to fall out with the fans & management at Swindon? Of course, when that happens, DNG won't be feeling sorry for himself!

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I cannot forgive DNG for what he did against Palace that could have cost us dear and DNG showed complete contempt for the club, his team mates, the manager and the fans.

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DNGs behaviour was unacceptable and he has a lot of goodwill to make up in my book. The fact our position was becoming desperate made his behaviour even more unacceptable and is certainly no excuse as suggested above. I'd prefer if he left. He didn't look happy to be sent out at ft to do a warm down either. I do wanna like Lomas but trying to encourage us to applaud DNG is him taking the moral high ground and being rather patronising in my opinion. I thought he 'understood what millwall were all about'. Maybe not if he thinks we are willing to have a player sulk and not commit when we are in the shit.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Benzel on Friday, January 24, 2014, 10:56:43
Maybe he feels he can get away with it what with Ranger getting cut a lot of slack... Maybe it's just as innocent as getting him out for some fitness? He's been ill and injured this past month or so and now with Smith and Barker as well as other wide options it's just simply a case of getting him some match sharpness.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Tails on Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:03:20
It could be anything, but I know for a fact that the N'Guessan signing was 100% Jed's work and I'm guessing he offered him quite a bit to come here as he was about to sign for Blackpool.

He hasn't been the same recently (probably due to injury) but it seems like an odd move still, as he has been pretty decent for us.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:07:40
Hasn't he been unwell and injured? He's hardly played the last month, maybe he's going out to get a bit of fitness.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:12:33
If it's to free up some wages to bring in a cb on loan then I'm ok with it.. If not then it's a poor decision.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: SwindonOldie on Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:21:42
Still reckon Ranger and  N'Guessan when fit and playing as a front 2 are as good as anything in this league.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: DiV on Friday, January 24, 2014, 13:57:56
Too old...


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, January 24, 2014, 14:01:11
I'm N'Guessan there's not a simple answer behind this. Still, with Reis re-approaching fitness and Smith, Storey and Ranger avaliable (for the time being anyway) it doesn't worry me too much.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: london_red on Friday, January 24, 2014, 14:54:30
Too old...

Who is?


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, January 24, 2014, 15:24:09
Who is?
I think DV is attempting to make a humourous remark regarding the young members of our squad


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, January 24, 2014, 15:33:29
I'm really surprised at this. Furthermore, I'm really surprised that noone else seems surprised.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Tails on Friday, January 24, 2014, 15:44:40
I'm really surprised at this. Furthermore, I'm really surprised that noone else seems surprised.

I'm surprised that you're surprised!


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, January 24, 2014, 15:54:04
I'm really surprised at this. Furthermore, I'm really surprised that noone else seems surprised.

I'm very very surprised as well!  Seems extremely odd to be honest, after all he is our top goal scorer!

On a separatenote, but related, when does Ranger go to court?  Has it been put back, I thought it was January?


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Tails on Friday, January 24, 2014, 16:01:59
Pushed back to sometime in Feb now, can't remember the exact date.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Family at War on Friday, January 24, 2014, 16:16:39
Feb 24th or 25th I think


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, January 24, 2014, 16:17:47
Pushed back to sometime in Feb now, can't remember the exact date.

24th IIRC
Dany is only our top scorer as the previous one went back to his own club  :(

On a serious note he is lacking match fitness after a couple of injury/illness bouts, so may be something simple asvgaining match fitness.
May also be we are real close to the FL budget limits after the Barker and Smith signings

Or both  :doh:


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: DiV on Friday, January 24, 2014, 18:02:46
Who is?

N'Guessan.

Perhaps he wasn't in favour of giving Ranger another chance and now feels his position in untenable....


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: nochee on Friday, January 24, 2014, 18:03:30
He's French, who cares?


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: adje on Friday, January 24, 2014, 19:16:23
Without inside knowledge this looks a ridiculous decision on what Ive seen of him.Always seems to give 100% and not without ability.Thought he did more in 20 mins on Saturday than Ranger did in the previous 70


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: walcot red on Friday, January 24, 2014, 19:19:32
Hopefully it'll do him some good, like Ajose's loan with us, works hard gets a few goals comes back and bangs them in for fun.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: leefer on Friday, January 24, 2014, 20:21:31
To be honest he always looks like he could be a real good player but just seems to go through the motions....needs a bit of anger and passion because he could be a beast of a player.
Done ok for us but like  say i reckon he could be a Championship striker easy.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: doomster on Sunday, January 26, 2014, 21:20:59
He is like a fit Vincent Pericard.  It takes special talent for such big blokes to jump and make themselves 4 foot tall.

Good finisher mind if its put on a penalty spot or laid on a plate.

Big meh….....


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Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, January 26, 2014, 22:36:59
As my mate said at the Preston game.... He is our version of Heskey - brute of a player who gets pushed over all the time.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: RobertT on Monday, January 27, 2014, 10:23:40
From the report today it seems like we don't fancy offering him a new contract (presumably on a bit more than the ones we have now brought in so a waste of cash on a sub) and have offered him the chance to effectively leave now by going on loan as we can't sell him (2 club rule).  Probably the result of keeping Ranger.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: tans on Monday, January 27, 2014, 11:23:32
I read somewhere Preston were keen on him. If he goes there, ill be a bit pissed, considering the reason given was the travelling from London


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: suttonred on Monday, January 27, 2014, 12:39:33
Depends, he might have a young family, and is travelling at the moment, but If preston gave him 2.5 years then he'd move, doubt he wants to for what he has left here.


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 27, 2014, 13:21:07
It was said a few clubs are interested in him, also interest in Lee Cox from scotland


Title: Re: N'Guessan listed for loan..
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, January 27, 2014, 13:40:06
It was said a few clubs are interested in him, also interest in Lee Cox from scotland

I reckon Butcher will take Cox to Hibs.