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Title: UK Match Fixing
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 23:45:51
Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak5m
Six people, including three footballers, arrested by police investigating claims of match-fixing in the UK by an Asian betting syndicate

Players earning 5k a week should narrow it down to league 1/2 teams. Interesting!

Front page of telegraph tomorrow.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Notts red on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 23:55:07
That's why nobody seems to know where Rooney is :)
Delroy Facey, ex pro and now agent is one of the six who have been held during the last two days. It states lower league games are fixed for as little as 50,000 and players are given as much as £5,000 for getting a yellow card and influencing results. Looking forward to reading the whole article tomorrow.
www.telegraph.co.uk/football


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Tails on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 00:14:57
Anyone else feel a bit nervous?


Title: Re: Re: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Only Me on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 00:21:33
Anyone else feel a bit nervous?
No


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 00:40:14
Anyone else feel a bit nervous?

By virtue of the amount of yellow cards we've got this season, statistically yes.

However, I really doubt anyone in our team will be involved in this.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 07:53:50
Confirmed as not professional sides.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 09:10:51
Eh? With players on £5k a week. Sounds more like Championship players to me.

Can't think there are many players on that money in L1 L2


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 09:56:31
No I think players were given 5k to do 'something' ie. Get booked.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 10:02:49
Can't think there are many players on that money in L1 L2

Only our squad of the last two seasons ;)


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 11:30:23
Anyone else feel a bit nervous?

Any right minded Town fan will be....we've previous for this.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: pauld on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 11:31:56
Any right minded Town fan will be....we've previous for this.
Although if they'd heard the radio interviews this morning making it clear this was non-league clubs, or even just read into it a bit rather than reaching for the scaremonger button, then they perhaps might be a bit more relaxed.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 11:37:12
Although if they'd heard the radio interviews this morning making it clear this was non-league clubs, or even just read into it a bit rather than reaching for the scaremonger button, then they perhaps might be a bit more relaxed.

Such complacency....Macclesfield are non-league, we have our worst ever cup defeat to a non league side, who a couple of weeks later lose to Salisbury. Ranger goes missing and then has a fall out with Power post match  :nod:


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 11:39:23
Eh? With players on £5k a week. Sounds more like Championship players to me.

Can't think there are many players on that money in L1 L2

£5k a month.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10479444/Football-match-fixing-Fixer-predicts-outcome-of-upcoming-match.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10479444/Football-match-fixing-Fixer-predicts-outcome-of-upcoming-match.html)

Its an interesting watch and will be even more interesting to see which club it is

Edit: this is the video I watched last night

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10479791/Football-match-fixing-Usually-it-costs-70000-for-the-players.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10479791/Football-match-fixing-Usually-it-costs-70000-for-the-players.html)

Clearly says players earn £5k a week and he can make a player be booked in the 1st 10 mins for £7k. The bbc understands that its a non league club but it must be quite a big club to be paying that money to players.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: pauld on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 11:48:32
Such complacency....Macclesfield are non-league, we have our worst ever cup defeat to a non league side, who a couple of weeks later lose to Salisbury. Ranger goes missing and then has a fall out with Power post match  :nod:
That's a fair point. And I guess the current arrests may just be the tip of the iceberg rather than the full extent of it. I consider myself duly put in my place :)


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 12:02:16
Confirmed as not professional sides.
Although if they'd heard the radio interviews this morning making it clear this was non-league clubs, or even just read into it a bit rather than reaching for the scaremonger button, then they perhaps might be a bit more relaxed.
All signs point to the Scum


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 17:09:16
Alberto Comazzi's sending off against Rotherham was a fix.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 20:28:19
Delroy Facey is suspected of being the agent involved according to the beeb.  Anyone know who he represents?


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 8, 2013, 13:42:22
I hope this is isolated, but I have a feeling it could not be

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25288657

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Three people are in police custody after an ex-Portsmouth player told an undercover reporter he had been involved in fixing football matches.

Sam Sodje was filmed by the Sun on Sunday describing how he punched an opponent in a League One game to get a red card in exchange for £70,000.

(more on BBC site).


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 8, 2013, 14:27:16
Christian Montano, ex of us, involved according to Beeb- although typically of his spell with us he didn't even manage to so what he was told to do.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, December 8, 2013, 19:18:32
It's us all over again....

A lower league club will get a right kicking off the FA..


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: ghanimah on Sunday, December 8, 2013, 19:26:14
I hope this is isolated, but I have a feeling it could not be

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25288657


Sadly we've been here before though...

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=35675.0


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, December 8, 2013, 19:41:16
Why don't bookies just restrict the markets for football matches if some of them are so easy to manipulate e.g. Time of first thrown-in or whether a certain player gets booked.

I thought the same when that Pakistani bowler bowled that horrendous no-ball that was the subject of another spot fixing enquiry.

What sort of 'nornal' punter would even thnk of betting on these sort of markets


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 8, 2013, 20:08:28
Sadly we've been here before though...

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=35675.0

So we have, forgot all about that.

I know it is the same thing, but in my mind kicking the ball out of play is less serious than getting yourself sent off. As a fan I could forgive the first, never the second.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:14:11
DJ Campbell arrested under suspicion. Be interesting to see what the league give as punishments if found guilty.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:33:09
DJ Campbell arrested under suspicion. Be interesting to see what the league give as punishments if found guilty.

Life bans or at least 10 years like the Pakistani cricketers. Anything less is a travesty.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:37:12
They should be banished to a long forgotten footballing backwater.

The Kassam for all of 'em!


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: tans on Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:40:46
We'll probably end up signing them


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:41:26
Life bans or at least 10 years like the Pakistani cricketers. Anything less is a travesty.

Our boys Bronco Layne, Jimmy Gauld and Jack Fountain, were banged up back in the 64 for match fixing....mind you, you could still get executed for murder back then, as Gwynne Evans and Peter Allen found out.

Today's lot will probably get to do a course, on why betting is bad...


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:44:18
And of course, uphill gardening was also illegal


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, December 9, 2013, 12:04:44
So we have, forgot all about that.

I know it is the same thing, but in my mind kicking the ball out of play is less serious than getting yourself sent off. As a fan I could forgive the first, never the second.

We had this discussion over Le Tissier. It's all the same to me and they should all be punished the same. Le Tissier should have been banned from any involvement in football for life. Same should happen to the current offenders.

Bit worrying it's players that are already on decent wages doing it now and you wonder how big the issue might be here.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 9, 2013, 12:12:37
We had this discussion over Le Tissier. It's all the same to me and they should all be punished the same. Le Tissier should have been banned from any involvement in football for life. Same should happen to the current offenders.

Its the same legal offence, I don't think there is any doubt about that. Defrauding bookmakers. And as such the punishments have to be the same really, I accept that now. Give an inch and they'l take a mile.

As a fan though, kicking the ball out from kickoff to me would be harmless in the course of a game. Whereas a sending off isn't.

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Bit worrying it's players that are already on decent wages doing it now and you wonder how big the issue might be here.

Absolutely. That was my main point.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 9, 2013, 12:20:44
We had this discussion over Le Tissier. It's all the same to me and they should all be punished the same. Le Tissier should have been banned from any involvement in football for life. Same should happen to the current offenders.

Bit worrying it's players that are already on decent wages doing it now and you wonder how big the issue might be here.
Agree on both points. Well put.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: iffy on Monday, December 9, 2013, 13:08:58
By virtue of the amount of yellow cards we've got this season, statistically yes.

However, I really doubt anyone in our team will be involved in this.

If you assume that odds on something get better the rarer it is, there would be no price worth having for fixing for a town yellow card. We may yet be saved by the inability of our players to time a tackle.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, December 9, 2013, 13:14:51
Its the same legal offence, I don't think there is any doubt about that. Defrauding bookmakers. And as such the punishments have to be the same really, I accept that now. Give an inch and they'l take a mile.

I'm still appalled over the Le Tissier thing. That he would do it in the first place, that he openly admitted it and didn't appreciate the seriousness of it and that he pretty much got away with it and everyone had a laugh over it.

It was an opportunity for the English game to take a stance and it didn't. If Le Tissier had been disowned it may have made some future offenders realise it just wasn't worth the risk, probably not, but maybe.

For me this is far worse than drugs in sport. It starts making you question what you are watching, whether the players are up to something or just plain fucking incompetent.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: suttonred on Monday, December 9, 2013, 13:34:14
Dj Campell Is the new Jimmy Saville, this is going to run and run, and mushroom for sure.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, December 9, 2013, 14:05:00
Its the same legal offence, I don't think there is any doubt about that. Defrauding bookmakers. And as such the punishments have to be the same really, I accept that now. Give an inch and they'l take a mile.

As a fan though, kicking the ball out from kickoff to me would be harmless in the course of a game. Whereas a sending off isn't.

Absolutely. That was my main point.

Used to piss me off a treat in the andy king era. Everytime from kick off, rugby-esk toward the corner flag for a throwing. Some would say it helps the team settle straight away with who they are marking etc but never saw any other team do it.


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Power to people on Monday, December 9, 2013, 16:29:07
So what sort of punishment can they expect from this type of thing, just being banned from football or harsher punishment ?

I'm assuming as nothing was done to influence a result then clubs will be in the clear


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 9, 2013, 16:55:01
Apparently DJ Campbell has made a statement -

'I'm 100% innocent and I am hoping to play in our draw at Millwall on Saturday'


Title: Re: UK Match Fixing
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 9, 2013, 16:59:36
Apparently DJ Campbell has made a statement -

'I'm 100% innocent and I am hoping to play in our draw at Millwall on Saturday'

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