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Title: Ian Watkins
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 14:57:22
Lost Prophets singer pleads guilty to attempting to rape a baby

SICK


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:08:22
Beyond fucked up.

Saw Lostprophets live a couple of years ago. Feel sorry for the rest of the band, that's their livelihood gone in a heartbeat. Obviously doesn't compare to the victims, but must still suck.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:10:09
Guy was a complete mess anyway, just the final nail in his coffin. Deserves whatever he gets now as far as I'm concerned.

That bands name has been completely tarnished as well. I was never a fan, but I do feel a little bit of sympathy for the rest of them as Nemo said.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:14:11
I hope the cunt is arse raped and then beheaded, a view not too extreme I hope.

Scum does not even come close to describing him.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:14:38
Just wow.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:23:40
Quote
After hearing legal argument from barristers, Mr Justice Royce called the jury into court and told them: "There will not be a trial in this case. The defendants have all pleaded guilty to nearly all the charges against them. The prosecution does not seek a trial in these circumstances.

"You have been saved from having to watch extremely graphic and distressing material."

A relief for the jury I'm sure. Not a case you'd want to sit through.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:30:20
Best thing to come out of this is that mincer from Steps getting an absolute kicking on Twitter


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:36:24
Just read about this on BBC, that fella sounds like one sick puppy.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:46:00
Stomach turning details. Would love to see him chucked in with some violent criminals.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 15:46:12
He'll probably get locked up away from 'normal' prisoners for his own safety..

Shame really.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 18:06:58
What he's admitted to doing is absolutely despicable and sickening. He can absolutely spend the rest of his days staring at the same blank four walls for all I care, but I don't wish him any personal harm.

Like others have posted, it's his friends and family I feel sorry for. To be associated with such an abhorrent person and the hatred that will no doubt be directed their way is not something I'd want to deal with.



Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jutty274 on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 18:19:15
I heard he got caught when he asked a fan to molest their own child for him on a webchat.

He is one sick motherfucker, who deserves everything that will happen to him in prison.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 18:29:51
Cunt


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 19:56:26
I heard he got caught when he asked a fan to molest their own child for him on a webchat.

He is one sick motherfucker, who deserves everything that will happen to him in prison.

And he got another to blow Cystal Meth into their babies face.

His computer password was also found to be "ifuckkids".  No proof of premeditation there then.

Castrate the fucker and then chuck him in general population, shouldn't take long.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 20:37:06
Beyond fucked up.

Saw Lostprophets live a couple of years ago. Feel sorry for the rest of the band, that's their livelihood gone in a heartbeat. Obviously doesn't compare to the victims, but must still suck.

 :nod: Its very sad. Loved this band many moons ago. Never saw it coming as only really ever followed them from a musical perspective. What a sick b@stard. Deserves whatever abuse he gets in prison. They should deny him psychiatric placement in Broadmoor.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 20:37:21
What a sick cunt! Castrate him and the parents in the matter, well I don't know what the hell they were doing...fucking disgusting to let someone do that and take part against your own children!


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 20:48:28
This kind of thing, as sick as it may be, intrigues me.

Something has gone very, very wrong in the mind of Watkins and like a mechanic that wants to pull apart an engine to see why it isn't working, I wish I could dissect Watkins' mind to see what went wrong.

I wish I took more interest in psychology when I was younger. I hindsight I think I would have found it a fascinating career.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 20:56:54
This kind of thing, as sick as it may be, intrigues me.

Something has gone very, very wrong in the mind of Watkins and like a mechanic that wants to pull apart an engine to see why it isn't working, I wish I could dissect Watkins' mind to see what went wrong.

I wish I took more interest in psychology when I was younger. I hindsight I think I would have found it a fascinating career.

The truly terrifying part being I bet he isn't that different from a normal person really.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 20:57:11
The most vilest thread i have had the misfortune to read.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 20:58:58
This kind of thing, as sick as it may be, intrigues me.

Something has gone very, very wrong in the mind of Watkins and like a mechanic that wants to pull apart an engine to see why it isn't working, I wish I could dissect Watkins' mind to see what went wrong.

I wish I took more interest in psychology when I was younger. I hindsight I think I would have found it a fascinating career.
Maybe he was abused as a child.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 21:02:44
This kind of thing, as sick as it may be, intrigues me.

Something has gone very, very wrong in the mind of Watkins and like a mechanic that wants to pull apart an engine to see why it isn't working, I wish I could dissect Watkins' mind to see what went wrong.

I wish I took more interest in psychology when I was younger. I hindsight I think I would have found it a fascinating career.

Does he know he can have as many young pretty girls as he wants and then crave something he shouldn't? A bit like superstars and drugs, Savage a typical case, these people think they are beyond being caught and that they are invincible. Poor little souls that have been molested by Watkins, didn't ask for it, so wrong and the guy needs punishment that fits. The fact he was denied bail said a lot at the time of arrest and apparently he was filming himself having sex with 16 year old fans regularly! Just as bad in my eyes. One digit changes the age of a girl being legal but not necessarily makes her mature enough...


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 22:21:48
Maybe he was abused as a child.

No excuse, if he was I hope he gets to experience it as an adult.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 23:24:46
No excuse, if he was I hope he gets to experience it as an adult.

I don't think anybody would say it's an excuse. But that sort of thing can be a contributing factor, depending on how it's dealt with.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 02:03:44
This kind of thing, as sick as it may be, intrigues me.

Something has gone very, very wrong in the mind of Watkins and like a mechanic that wants to pull apart an engine to see why it isn't working, I wish I could dissect Watkins' mind to see what went wrong.

I wish I took more interest in psychology when I was younger. I hindsight I think I would have found it a fascinating career.

I have this image I can't shake now of Dr Mengler-type 'let's cut open his head to see why it is' operation. Nurse!

Whether he actually is mentally ill or just a cunt is a really interesting topic of discussion, the delineation of mental illness and where people are just wrong would have all sorts of implications.



Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 09:38:14
I don't think anybody would say it's an excuse. But that sort of thing can be a contributing factor, depending on how it's dealt with.

Also the poor children who have been abused are likely to have issues in the future as well, sadly. :(


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: walrus on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 10:01:49
It certainly gives The Town Called Hypocrisy meaning....


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:09:17
It certainly gives The Town Called Hypocrisy meaning....

That video was terrifying enough.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:13:20
The truly terrifying part being I bet he isn't that different from a normal person really.

This is what scares me.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:21:45
Do most paedophiles have some sort of distinguishing feature like 2 heads or something?


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:43:17
The most vilest thread i have had the misfortune to read.

Agreed.

Whether he actually is mentally ill or just a cunt is a really interesting topic of discussion.

Not really, surely there's no debate? You are totally fucked in the head, regardless. People don't do it for kicks, and get considered "just a cunt". Anything sexual involving children requires serious, serious mental problems. You'd have to be fucked up and rotten to the core.

No Daily Mail article could ever really do justice to how much hate and anger should be reserved for people like this.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:51:34
Barry, it's more of a question as to whether he can use the 'I'm mentally ill, I need looking after' excuse, or whether he just deserves whatever punishment can be thrown at him. Not trying to make light of this at all, the guy's abhorrent.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:56:28
The truly terrifying part being I bet he isn't that different from a normal person really.


The whole time I was reading the posts up to yours, I was thinking 'I can't wait to see what John's posted in here, should be funny as fuck'

You've let me down. Cunt.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 13:59:27
Barry, it's more of a question as to whether he can use the 'I'm mentally ill, I need looking after' excuse, or whether he just deserves whatever punishment can be thrown at him. Not trying to make light of this at all, the guy's abhorrent.

Gotcha, didn't mean to sound like I was getting at you. Surely they're all mentally ill though?

I remember they had an awful paedo program on TV years ago, it was disturbing how most of them spoke (on secret camera/mics) about how the problem was not with them, but with society and it's lack of acceptance for something they considered normal.

Killing cunts like that would be a reasonable trade-off for a few years at her majesty's pleasure I'd have thought.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 14:18:03

The whole time I was reading the posts up to yours, I was thinking 'I can't wait to see what John's posted in here, should be funny as fuck'

You've let me down. Cunt.

Sorry...

so after the likes of Jimmy Savile being found out as a paedophile, Ian Watkins has followed suit.

Typical Welshman, they're all fucking sheep.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 14:29:44
Sorry...

so after the likes of Jimmy Savile being found out as a paedophile, Ian Watkins has followed suit.

Typical Welshman, they're all fucking sheep.

Good man. Good, good man.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 14:30:25
I thought you'd be more inclined to something like this, though -

Fearne Cotton's ex, Ian Watkins has admitted to attempted baby rape..

He probably wanted to fuck someone with bigger tits than Fearne.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 14:49:25
Decent. Text messages away!


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 17:05:29
Decent. Text messages away!

You've not changed.

Good work!


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: walrus on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 09:08:44
I was a huge fan of the Lost Prophets when I was 13....

Turns out they were a big fan of me too.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Dostoyevsky on Thursday, November 28, 2013, 21:08:49
Check out this clip when Watkins appeared on Never Mind The Buzzcocks. Forward to 15.40 on the timeline and see what happens next  :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcnWEJ_CNyc


Its like the cameraman is trying to tell us something!



Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 15:27:41
35 years


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 15:35:32
One way or another I'll be surprised If he see's the first year out.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 16:16:04
Bookies wouldnt give me odds on him topping himself within 4 weeks


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 16:16:56
Bookies wouldnt give me odds on him topping himself within 4 weeks

What about him getting a shanking?


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 21:54:42
35 years

I was surprised at the length of the sentence to be honest.  Not that it's not fully deserved, but makes me wonder why more sentences like this aren't dished out?


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 22:00:13
The more details that come out about him and this case, the worse it gets. Vile.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 22:31:14
27 Terabytes of storage space for his kiddy porn. Unbelievable

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/intelligence-experts-cracked-ian-watkins-password/


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Boy About Town on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 22:40:23
If you can stomach it.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

Very graphic and disturbing  :no:


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 23:14:17
Yuck! What a vile bunch of bastards....


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 10:43:10
27 Terabytes of storage space for his kiddy porn. Unbelievable

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/intelligence-experts-cracked-ian-watkins-password/

4 times the size of the Welsh police database! Good effort.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 11:07:10
That's an hilarious comment. You obviously don't have kids.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Tails on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 11:37:46
If you can stomach it.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

Very graphic and disturbing  :no:

Wow.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: derbystfc on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 12:26:53
That's just turned my stomach, some seriously sick fucked up people out there


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 13:00:09
27TB?! Jesus H Christ.

I must have hundreds of hours of HD films and tv series (all legally downloaded, of course) and that doesn't even fill 4TB.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: pauld on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 13:33:02
As a rough idea 1GB is roughly 15 mins of broadcast HD, so assuming the quoted figure is using the modern practice of quoting TB = 1000GB (rather than the more correct 1024, but disk manufacturers started using 1000 so they could boost their stated capacities and now everyone seems to do it), then 1TB would be around 250 hours of broadcast HD. But if it's downloaded then that could and probably would be considerably more. It's still a shitload.

The comparison with the South Wales police database is utterly meaningless as that is likely largely composed of textual information with some still images, with very little HD video, so a size comparison conveys nothing about the amount of "information" that can be stored in a given storage size.

None of which matters, even 2Gb of this kind of shit is repellent and it's primarily what he did rather than what he watched that he's rightly been jailed for - the images/videos were a comparatively small part of the overall indictment.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 14:25:14
As a rough idea 1GB is roughly 15 mins of broadcast HD, so assuming the quoted figure is using the modern practice of quoting TB = 1000GB (rather than the more correct 1024, but disk manufacturers started using 1000 so they could boost their stated capacities and now everyone seems to do it),

Don't blame disk manufacturers,  they were just using the  International System of Units (SI ) definition of terrabyte (TB). Honest Gov. What you have with your 1024 there is in fact a tebibyte (TiB), according to the IEC.

Anyway whatever, that's a **** load of sickness.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 14:53:39
On disk manufacturing, there's also the old 'within 10%' adage, so 1TB is more likely than not closer to 900GB.

Still a couple of metric tonnes of sick.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 15:13:26
The mothers are even worse after reading that.
Sickening stuff.
All 3 of them should be put to sleep imo. They are terminally ill and a waste of tax payers money keeping them in prison.
Either that or use them for medicinal testing.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: DMR on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 15:39:20
I'd normally say you're all over-reacting or say something to take the piss and try and provoke a row. But I really, realy wish I hadn't read that report. I actually can't believe people would do that.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: derbystfc on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 16:34:04
I'd normally say you're all over-reacting or say something to take the piss and try and provoke a row. But I really, realy wish I hadn't read that report. I actually can't believe people would do that.

This!!


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 16:36:56
I'd normally say you're all over-reacting or say something to take the piss and try and provoke a row. But I really, realy wish I hadn't read that report. I actually can't believe people would do that.

Yeah, I was kind of ready to put something about our society being better than simply calling him sick and locking him away, but then read the report and thought otherwise.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 16:37:02
I'd normally say you're all over-reacting or say something to take the piss and try and provoke a row. But I really, realy wish I hadn't read that report. I actually can't believe people would do that.

Yeah i know what you mean. I kept losing my erection.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 16:38:02
I don't want to read the report, as the stuff I've heard already is enough for me. Don't think I could stomach any more without getting angry and upset. I hope he rots.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 17:14:50
I'd normally say you're all over-reacting or say something to take the piss and try and provoke a row. But I really, realy wish I hadn't read that report. I actually can't believe people would do that.

I began to read it and stopped - it's revolting. I can't bear to read anymore, how can anyone do that?


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 17:22:03
The mothers are even worse after reading that.
Sickening stuff.
All 3 of them should be put to sleep imo. They are terminally ill and a waste of tax payers money keeping them in prison.
Either that or use them for medicinal testing.

This x100

The fact that the mother's are protected by anonymity is wrong as well.  I understand it's so the children can't be identified, but as they're so young and have put into long term foster care, I'm not sure how links would be made.  Anyone who knew the mothers probably knows anyway, so why can't they be publicly named?

I hope the prisoners they are placed with find out who they are.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 18:41:56
This x100

The fact that the mother's are protected by anonymity is wrong as well.  I understand it's so the children can't be identified, but as they're so young and have put into long term foster care, I'm not sure how links would be made.  Anyone who knew the mothers probably knows anyway, so why can't they be publicly named?

I hope the prisoners they are placed with find out who they are.
Peaches Geldof knows who they are


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 18:43:22
I dont personally agree with naming the apalling mothers. Hopefully their children will have decent futures without them involved so for their sakes its better their mothers identities are not made public.

I also dont agree when cases like this have people calling for fellow inmates to dish out punishment. They are also in prison for a reason.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: DMR on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 18:58:56
I also dont agree when cases like this have people calling for fellow inmates to dish out punishment. They are also in prison for a reason.

99% of the time I'd completely agree. All the movie-style hard man bollocks about "nonces getting it in prison," usually regurgitated by people who have never been to prison, is embarrassing.

In this particular case though I rather hope he gets a good dry raping.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, December 19, 2013, 20:22:49
a bit off topic, but its doesn't take "intelligence experts" to crack a password....just saying.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, December 20, 2013, 08:37:29
Especially an 8 digit one.


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 20, 2013, 08:49:36
a bit off topic, but its doesn't take "intelligence experts" to crack a password....just saying.

Because it sounds more dramatic than "IT grunt".


Title: Re: Ian Watkins
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, December 20, 2013, 10:49:23
But how were they to know it was 8 digits long?

I imagine GCHQ may have said something like: "OK, leave it with us and we'll get back to you in a couple of..... Hang on, we've done it'