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Title: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, September 9, 2013, 06:00:01
Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
          
          



  SWINDON Town will today decide whether or not to lodge a formal appeal to the Football Association over the red card handed to Nathan Byrne in Saturday’s 1-1 draw at Franchise.

          

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10662011.Town_set_to_challenge_Byrne_s_red_card/?ref=rss
          
          
          


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Monday, September 9, 2013, 06:31:56
If Town lose the appeal the ban increases to 4 matches does it not?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 9, 2013, 06:36:32
In our experience, yes (a la Douglas) our claims are 'spurious' whereas others are reasonable appeals and stick with 3.

If we appeal we'll lose it and get a 4 match suspension, that's my guess anyway.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 9, 2013, 07:42:11
In our experience, yes (a la Douglas) our claims are 'spurious' whereas others are reasonable appeals and stick with 3.

If we appeal we'll lose it and get a 4 match suspension, that's my guess anyway.

Don't appeal. They will only overturn a flagrant error, not a matter of judgment. This is exactly what will happen.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 9, 2013, 07:59:42
If Town lose the appeal the ban increases to 4 matches does it not?


Afraid not, this is Swindon v. the FA.

If we lose the appeal Byrne will be banned for life, jailed for 6 months and we will be docked 12 points.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, September 9, 2013, 08:23:36
Waste of time...

Unless its a top player playing for a top six side in the Prem...you are fucked or its a massive error, like the ref sending off the wrong bloke.

This will stand.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 9, 2013, 09:04:19
No chance. Move on


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 9, 2013, 09:10:08
No chance. Move on

Quite right....just waste some money and be increased to 4 games.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:23:11
We've got a decent squad now. Maybe time to see what this Barthram guy is like?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Tails on Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:31:30
Ginger and even smaller than Byrne.

Thompson & Jay Mac have the full back slots filled, it will be a case of who to put on the wing. My guess is Ajose will go there.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:38:20
Ah yeah, Byrne is a winger now isn't he. Ajose or N'Guessan give good options.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: suttonred on Monday, September 9, 2013, 11:20:30
Be N'guessan I'm a guessing.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: london_red on Monday, September 9, 2013, 11:23:33
Be N'guessan I'm a guessing.

No way. Ajose.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, September 9, 2013, 11:30:11
No way. Ajose.

Storey, end of.


Title: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, September 9, 2013, 15:00:02
Town appeal against Byrne red card
           
           



  SWINDON Town have appealed against the red card shown to Nathan Byrne in the 1-1 draw with Franchise on Saturday.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10663602.Town_appeal_against_Byrne_red_card/?ref=rss
           
           
           


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, September 9, 2013, 15:07:57
Waste of time. There was enough debate on here, despite us being bias. The FA will deem it reckless, even if it was an accident.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 9, 2013, 16:24:19
Never in a month of Sundays. Although I did also predict a heavy QPR loss.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, September 9, 2013, 21:58:12
Storey, end of.

Did you just get whooshed ?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 06:04:20
Did you just get whooshed ?
No, but maybe you did Fred  8)


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 07:37:52
Going through the motions and showing support for the player(s). Probably use the post match commentary and views of Franchise manager to show its not frivolous. I suspect it won't change, but would be surprised to see the punishment increased.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 07:43:36
Going through the motions and showing support for the player(s). Probably use the post match commentary and views of Franchise manager to show its not frivolous. I suspect it won't change, but would be surprised to see the punishment increased.

I wouldn't. In fact, I'd be surprised by any other outcome.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 08:21:01
Good, a complete joke of a decision.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 08:59:30
The decision was a joke! Just because the Football league are likely to back their man doesn't mean we shouldn't appeal it. If you don't try you'll never know. If he gets another game for a "frivolous" appeal then its a farce.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 09:31:39
The decision was a joke! Just because the Football league are likely to back their man doesn't mean we shouldn't appeal it. If you don't try you'll never know. If he gets another game for a "frivolous" appeal then its a farce.

The decision to appeal is the joke....and btw appeals go to the FA not FL. I can see that Cooper wants to be seen supporting his player, but it does set a bit of a dangerous precedent.  Would have been much better to accept the decision, and point out to the players the need for discipline on the pitch, particularly in the current climate where it's easy to pick up costly cards, for which Byrne has previous.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:12:48
The decision to appeal is the joke....and btw appeals go to the FA not FL. I can see that Cooper wants to be seen supporting his player, but it does set a bit of a dangerous precedent.  Would have been much better to accept the decision, and point out to the players the need for discipline on the pitch, particularly in the current climate where it's easy to pick up costly cards, for which Byrne has previous.

His previous being a few bookings I presume (yes I know he was sent off at Brentford - for 2 bookings, the second of which he was barged in the back by Donaldson)?

IMO (and the opinion of a few others it would seem) it wasn't a warranted sending off and therefore the club has the right to appeal. That's what the process is there for. I'm not sure which way it will go and I won't be holding my breath but that doesn't mean to say it's the wrong decision to appeal.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:36:10
With the exception of the arse licker Hinchcliffe (who was the so called expert on the commentary) every other person asked has said they didn't think the decision merited a red card (including the manager of the opposition team)

That in itself would suggest that an appeal is worthwhile, even if it is upheld by the FA.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 11:04:43
If we appeal, it will be overruled and the player will get an extra game's ban.

FACT!

That is the only likely outcome. We should just drop it and move on.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 11:09:29
If we appeal, it will be overruled and the player will get an extra game's ban.

FACT!

That is the only likely outcome. We should just drop it and move on.

I don't know, another game Byrne can't play would be preferable to some people...

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!  :insane:


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 16:40:57
Been rejected, as expected.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 16:42:47
What a shock....poor cunt....move on


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 17:33:46
At least he didn't get an extra game ban, probably their way of saying, yep you're right, wasn't  a red, but balls to you.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 20:06:32
Sure I saw a ukraine player just stamp on an english players foot.  Yellow card.  Isn't refereeing consistency great.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 21:03:44
The decision to appeal is the joke....and btw appeals go to the FA not FL. I can see that Cooper wants to be seen supporting his player, but it does set a bit of a dangerous precedent.  Would have been much better to accept the decision, and point out to the players the need for discipline on the pitch, particularly in the current climate where it's easy to pick up costly cards, for which Byrne has previous.

Considering he was trying to block a clearance from a player and not looking where his foot was going I assume that you and all other fans who say it was a red will be encouraging our players to not get stuck in from now on then as it is agreed that this sort of tackle merits a red.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 21:06:33
Byrnes previous wasn't a red either,  Ffs don't  get any horse racing  tips off him, the lad isn't very lucky.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 21:08:40
Byrnes previous wasn't a red either,  Ffs don't  get any horse racing  tips off him, the lad isn't very lucky.

I imagine it would have been less of an obvious/deserved red card for many if hadn't been identified as the designated scapegoat player for many.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 21:11:39
Considering he was trying to block a clearance from a player and not looking where his foot was going I assume that you and all other fans who say it was a red will be encouraging our players to not get stuck in from now on then as it is agreed that this sort of tackle merits a red.
Jesus wept, it's nothing to do with whether you think the decision is right or wrong. The point is, you can't fight the system, you just have to accept it, like it or not.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 21:19:38
Pointless though it may be I'm all for saying the system is fucked, the law is an ass and you're a bunch of cunts.  I'm sure the club didn't actually do that, but I probably would have.  Lucky I'm just a supporter I guess.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 22:24:09
Jesus wept, it's nothing to do with whether you think the decision is right or wrong. The point is, you can't fight the system, you just have to accept it, like it or not.

The system is wank then! Oh and what happened to the extra game? Thought that was a FACT! :-)


Title: Re: Adver News: Town set to challenge Byrne's red card
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 23:09:33
No, but maybe you did Fred  8)

Ever heard the expression

No way .............

Oh I really can't be fucked


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 05:55:17
The system is wank then! Oh and what happened to the extra game? Thought that was a FACT! :-)
Correct. Didn't say it wasn't. They used to rule that any appeal which was not upheld was 'frivolous' and an extra game ban was given so perhaps they've changed that, which makes is slightly less wank.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 05:59:52
Ever heard the expression

No way .............

Oh I really can't be fucked
No way Jose (Ajose), yes indeed I have.

Let me explain Fred. He said - Storey, end of. Have you never heard anyone say, 'End of Story (Storey)'.

Hence, my conclusion that it was your good self who was wooshed.  8)


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 07:33:51
Jesus wept, it's nothing to do with whether you think the decision is right or wrong. The point is, you can't fight the system, you just have to accept it, like it or not.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/134405/fight-the-power-o.gif)


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 08:07:09
Correct. Didn't say it wasn't. They used to rule that any appeal which was not upheld was 'frivolous' and an extra game ban was given so perhaps they've changed that, which makes is slightly less wank.

Agreed. Just trying to get my FACTS straight.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 08:13:03
Ever heard the expression

No way .............

Oh I really can't be fucked

Good, save yourself any more embarrassment.

WRT to this, hardly a surprise. Absolute fucking travesty he's been robbed of the chance to play against Chelsea because he stood on someone's foot. Saw a couple of challenges in the PNE-Oldham game that barely got a second glance that were infinitely worse than the Byrne incident. Fuck refs.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: fuzzy on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 08:37:33
Considering he was trying to block a clearance from a player and not looking where his foot was going I assume that you and all other fans who say it was a red will be encouraging our players to not get stuck in from now on then as it is agreed that this sort of tackle merits a red.

I wonder how the 'Byrne Haters' would have reacted if, after running over half the length of the pitch and getting disposessed of the ball, he had just let his head drop and thought 'Fuck it, someone else can chase it down'? I suspect the odd accusation of lazy cunt may have occured.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 08:41:04
I wonder how the 'Byrne Haters' would have reacted if, after running over half the length of the pitch and getting disposessed of the ball, he had just let his head drop and thought 'Fuck it, someone else can chase it down'? I suspect the odd accusation of lazy cunt may have occured.

Agreed. We have a scapegoat every year...seeing as Williams has since left, Byrne is the obvious choice (apparently).


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 08:55:04
Is Byrne our scapegoat? I've chosen Hall, personally.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 09:06:17
I've seen more against Byrne than any other player this season, apart from Williams....but he's gone now, obviously.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 09:07:59
I think a lot of people have suggested he struggles to defend and is criminally one-footed... both of which are accurate. And he has cost us a goal or two. Those comments are deserved, in my eyes.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 09:09:59
Absolutely, but I've seen a lot of posts (here, adver, twitter) which suggest he's this seasons scapegoat.

Hall? I quite like Hall, personally.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 09:18:17
Is Byrne our scapegoat? I've chosen Hall, personally.
I thought the club scapegoat was Aghombar.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town appeal against Byrne red card
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 09:22:34
I thought the club scapegoat was Aghombar.

Nah, he's just the invisible man..