Title: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: News Monkey on Monday, July 15, 2013, 06:00:11 I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis
PAUL Caddis has said he is still unsure which direction Swindon Town are heading in after confirming that a bid for his services from Blackpool has been turned down by the Robins’ hierarchy. http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10547388.I_don_t_know_which_direction_this_club_is_heading___Caddis/?ref=rss Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Whits on Monday, July 15, 2013, 06:02:12 haha, just screams get me the fuck out of here
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, July 15, 2013, 06:27:52 Come on Paul, it's exciting. Who needs stability and predictability in their lives?
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 15, 2013, 06:34:57 This roller coaster bollocks used to be from season to season....now it's weekly!!
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Monday, July 15, 2013, 06:38:45 This interview probably predates Macs exit too.
(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys%20Holidays/Halloween/desguise_clown_treat.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/prestonjjrtr/media/Smileys%20Holidays/Halloween/desguise_clown_treat.gif.html) Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: reeves4england on Monday, July 15, 2013, 07:39:42 haha, just screams get me the fuck out of here The headline does. The quotes in the article slightly less so. My interpretation of his words is that he (understandably) feels pretty unsettled, rather than 100% set on getting out. Getting a new boss in asap is essential for this reason among many others. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, July 15, 2013, 08:06:50 I've come back from a weekend away to this latest drama and i haven't got what's going on either
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 16:58:03 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8828261/Transfer-news-Blackpool-set-to-sign-Paul-Caddis-from-Swindon
Sounds like Blackpool are having trouble matching his wages to me. Don't they have a really low wage cap or something? Might have to get creative. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:00:26 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8828261/Transfer-news-Blackpool-set-to-sign-Paul-Caddis-from-Swindon What's going on with that moustache?Sounds like Blackpool are having trouble matching his wages to me. Don't they have a really low wage cap or something? Might have to get creative. (http://e2.365dm.com/13/01/660x350/Caddis_2881407.jpg?20130103132059) Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: The Great Stan on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:05:01 What's going on with that moustache? (http://e2.365dm.com/13/01/660x350/Caddis_2881407.jpg?20130103132059) Bit faggy As a newbie, am I allowed to say that? Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:08:24 What's going on with that moustache? (http://e2.365dm.com/13/01/660x350/Caddis_2881407.jpg?20130103132059) Hopefully this was taken in November. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:53:16 Hopefully this was taken in November. It was. The likeness to Freddy mercury is striking. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 18:09:49 Jed is saying he is a free agent in december. What kind of gimp draws up a contract the runs out half way through the season?
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 18:24:20 Jed is saying he is a free agent in december. What kind of gimp draws up a contract the runs out half way through the season? Does Jed not mean come January he's free to sign a pre contract agreement... Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:04:22 BBC wilts saying he couldnt agree terms
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:16:27 Doesn't surprise me hugely, Blackpool's wage budget was reported to be similar to ours and it stands to reason he was a high earner here.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:41:44 Doesn't surprise me hugely, Blackpool's wage budget was reported to be similar to ours and it stands to reason he was a high earner here. Otanswell, did you text the radio saying Blackpool was a shithole? He obviously doesn't hate Swindon enough to GTFO, no matter the situation. He was always a greedy bugger on Fm11 if memory serves. Not that I'm sure money has ANYTHING whatsoever with his angling for a move... Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:17:35 Haha yeah I did, they didn't read it out did they???
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:25:55 Haha yeah I did, they didn't read it out did they??? Yep. Ifil said something along the lines of 'text here from Otanswell, I will paraphrase to take the cursing out, "can't understand why he'd want to go to blackpool anyway..." ' Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:37:29 This roller coaster bollocks used to be from season to season....now it's weekly!! I don't understand this...Blackpool's roller coaster is much bigger than Swindon's (http://dream-a-way.org/images/rollercoaster.jpg) Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: DRS on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:40:07 People saying they are not suprised,i am.Just how much are we fucking paying him if he would rather stay here
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:44:00 Fair point DRS, if their offer was close to matching what we pay him then you'd expect him to choose Championship football wouldn't you.
I don't really blame him for wanting to do the best he can, but equally good as he is if he wants out then he has to go. Hopefully now the value that we'd accept is out there we can get one or two more offers. I suppose there is the remote possibility he just didn't fancy moving to Blackpool, joking aside. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: DRS on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:50:26 It just seems no one is suprised that Blackpool cant match what we are paying him.When he signed that deal he was a league two player.That is fucking madness.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:51:47 It just seems no one is suprised that Blackpool cant match what we are paying him.When he signed that deal he was a league two player.That is fucking madness. Yep Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:01:28 It just seems no one is suprised that Blackpool cant match what we are paying him.When he signed that deal he was a league two player.That is fucking madness. Assuming the breakdown was purely down to money, and that he was only looking for them to match the pay rather than a pay increase. The 3 year deal was signed in 2010-11 under Fitton, so I'm surprised it is 'way out there' in terms of cash. Did it rise when we activated his 1 year extension? Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:04:40 Assuming the breakdown was purely down to money, and that he was only looking for them to match the pay rather than a pay increase. May also be he's just asking for more than they think he's worthThe 3 year deal was signed in 2010-11 under Fitton, so I'm surprised it is 'way out there' in terms of cash. Did it rise when we activated his 1 year extension? Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 04:55:56 I guess you also have to remember that our wage bill in the Fitton era was significantly more than £2.9m a season.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 05:51:36 Doesn't surprise me hugely, Blackpool's wage budget was reported to be similar to ours and it stands to reason he was a high earner here. That's them royally screwed then, if we are a shoe in for relegation in league one, how can they survive on that in the championship? :D Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: london_red on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 06:17:30 The 3 year deal was signed in 2010-11 under Fitton, so I'm surprised it is 'way out there' in terms of cash. Did it rise when we activated his 1 year extension? Presuming his deal was structured in a similar way to Ferry's (a reasonable assumption) you'd think so. As stated, it does indicate the gamble we took in terms of offering high wages which has necessitated this summer's upheaval. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 06:27:26 We had a high budget we could afford, we no longer have a high budget because we can no longer afford it, no arguments there.
But I'm not sure our wage structure (when it was affordable) was ludicrous compared to say what Brentford and other top spenders are doing now. After all they could afford to bring in Macca, Pompey Devera, City Flint. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Hoboken on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 06:42:07 I don't understand this...Blackpool's roller coaster is much bigger than Swindon's (http://dream-a-way.org/images/rollercoaster.jpg) Their rollercoaster has a start and a finish...ours seems to be continual... Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 06:58:16 Doesn't surprise me hugely, Blackpool's wage budget was reported to be similar to ours and it stands to reason he was a high earner here. I know times change, but it was reported that when Blackpool got to the premier league their top wage in the championship was £10k per week. They allowed for increases but included relegation reduction clauses, so assuming that their wage structure is the same, and assuming your comment then I'd be very surpirsed we offered £10k to Caddis in L2. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 07:41:36 Their rollercoaster has a start and a finish...ours seems to be continual... Good point...we seem to be stuck in the twisty, tangly bits atm...still as long as we stay on te tracks. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 08:13:18 I know times change, but it was reported that when Blackpool got to the premier league their top wage in the championship was £10k per week. They allowed for increases but included relegation reduction clauses, so assuming that their wage structure is the same, and assuming your comment then I'd be very surpirsed we offered £10k to Caddis in L2. Even in the premiership the rumours were that they had a maximum of £15k per week. They seem very structured and strict that they will not exceed there own self enforced limits Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 08:34:17 This is where Caddis would like to be heading
(http://www.brum.tv/images_new/brum.jpg) Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 08:38:50 I hope Caddis is heading out of the door very quickly.
Loyalty - Gone Dignity - Gone Caddis - I don't want to hear any more about him. Get him Gone! Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 09:40:49 I hope Caddis is heading out of the door very quickly. Loyalty - Gone Dignity - Gone Caddis - I don't want to hear any more about him. Get him Gone! Lock thread :) Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 16:26:29 Navarro's tweet this morning was interesting
@alannavarro31: Interesting day ahead, meetings with the club, then off to London to see the specialist. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 16:28:31 I know times change, but it was reported that when Blackpool got to the premier league their top wage in the championship was £10k per week. They allowed for increases but included relegation reduction clauses, so assuming that their wage structure is the same, and assuming your comment then I'd be very surpirsed we offered £10k to Caddis in L2. I'd read that Blackpool's top wage was 8k which is of course, rather famously, what Rooney's "total package" was worth. Not suggesting we offered Caddis 10k in League Two but we extended his contract just before he left on loan in L1 when he was club captain. More to the point, I'm not suggesting Caddis is on even 5k here, just pointing out that Blackpool's wage budget isn't that different to ours and I'm not sure they'd see Caddis as a top tier earner. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 16:33:12 Caddis leaving would solve a few headaches, selection wise & in terms of finances.. This protracted transfer saga has gone on long enough. I don't want us cramming Caddis into the team when he doesn't want to be here, could be another large wage off the bill and could also top up the bank balance.. Plus he's available for free from December.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 16:41:28 Plus he's available for free from December. July 1st 2014. He is allowed to talk to other clubs/sign a pre contract in Jan. If they want him then they'd still need to pay, but with only 6 months left on his contract he'd be worth even fewer peanuts. That's why we need to sell now. I don't buy into him being a liability while he's here myself. I think he is professional enough to do the job properly even if he wants out. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 17:00:54 The point I'm getting at is that we might well have to pay his large wages for another year, which is annoying when he might well perform at a below par level if he's unhappy, and then at the end of it all we won't get a fee, when we could have had 250k in January & 175k this summer.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 17:59:16 I agree with what you say mind, club need to cash in and get the wages off the books. Just saying if we can't do that then he might still be a good player, even if simply looking to impress a new club.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: DMR on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:29:07 Don't get the animosity towards Caddis. Loyalty doesn't exist in football - he's not a Swindon lad, he's not been here for a decade - what do people expect?
He can go and play a higher standard at a bigger club for more money. I fail to see the outrage. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:31:31 He needs to leave but I still don't have any doubts that he'll keep putting shifts in as long as he's here.
Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:34:34 Don't get the animosity towards Caddis. Loyalty doesn't exist in football - he's not a Swindon lad, he's not been here for a decade - what do people expect? I just don't want to hear about him.He can go and play a higher standard at a bigger club for more money. I fail to see the outrage. I think the club has bent over backwards for him. He's obviously earning a fair amount here. While he's here I expect him to tow the party line and be loyal to Town. Wish the thread had been locked. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:36:24 I think the club has bent over backwards for him. Except that time when they let PDC bomb him out the squad for having time off after his t'other half had a baby. Actually, what have they done that amounts bending over backwards? Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:39:39 Except that time when they let PDC bomb him out the squad for having time off after his t'other half had a baby. He fell out with the manager - who admittedly was an employee of the club.Actually, what have they done that amounts bending over backwards? But, the club let him go out on loan to a Championship team for a season whilst paying his wages. I think that is quite a big thing. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:43:39 He needs to leave but I still don't have any doubts that he'll keep putting shifts in as long as he's here. Certainly hope so, he seems to have been a model professional since he's been here, but we haven't seen him play whilst he's not wanted to be here (not that I know of) seeing as he was bombed out straight away under Paolo, there's no telling how he'll perform this year.. Especially in an unfamiliar position, be it out wide or in centre midfield. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 18:51:06 He fell out with the manager - who admittedly was an employee of the club. But, the club let him go out on loan to a Championship team for a season whilst paying his wages. I think that is quite a big thing. I'd assumed Brum were picking up some of his wages. Had heard Black wasn't overly impressed with him being bombed out too. Another straw for that broken backed camel. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 19:01:15 I just don't want to hear about him. A tad silly to open a thread about him then? Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 19:09:26 A tad silly to open a thread about him then? I didn't. I tried to close it down! :-)Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: RWB Robin on Friday, July 19, 2013, 00:11:19 Certainly hope so, he seems to have been a model professional since he's been here, but we haven't seen him play whilst he's not wanted to be here (not that I know of) seeing as he was bombed out straight away under Paolo, there's no telling how he'll perform this year.. Especially in an unfamiliar position, be it out wide or in centre midfield. I agree he has been a model professional and one of the best players we have had in recent years. He was an excellent captain in our L2 campaign and did not deserve to be treated like a naughty schoolboy. He went on loan to Birmingham with a clear expectation that, if he was wanted there, the deal would become permanent. That has fallen through, and he has been left hanging while others have been shipped out, yet has still played in friendly matches against Supermarine, Abingdon and FGR (and from what I saw at FGR, was about the only player on the pitch who put any real effort in, getting more and more animated as the game went on). I guess he was beginning to feel wanted by KMac, and now he has gone. I have no doubt that if he is still here, whether he wants to be or not, he will put 100% in to the team, and we will be a better team for it. If he sits and sulks, it will be even more difficult for him to find a team in January, and he surely knows that. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: dagrumpymunki on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:56:52 Increasingly I'm getting the feeling that Blackpool's move for Caddis, and the board being prepared to listen to it, might have been more of the catalyst for KMcD's exit than the signing policy.
Looking back at his comments to the press in the weeks of pre-season he looked to be building a case for keeping him, and losing yet another experienced pro, this time one he actually rated, might have been the last straw. Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 10:39:44 Caddis to Blackpool back on again?
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/blackpool-fc/pool-remain-hopeful-of-caddis-deal-1-5870720 Title: Re: Adver News: I don't know which direction this club is heading - Caddis Post by: The Great Stan on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 10:51:25 Apparently they offered £5 grand per week but he is on more here!
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