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Title: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: News Monkey on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 06:00:06
Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
           
           



  SWINDON Town are set for a £350,000-plus cash windfall courtesy of the imminent transfer of former striker Charlie Austin to Huil City from Burnley.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10533993.Town_poised_to_claim___300_000_Austin_cash_boost/?ref=rss
           
           
           


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 06:25:30
Wont get it now. Failed the medical


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 06:31:40
So Charlie Austin moving from one shit northern town to another was somehow meant to generate a cash windfall of £126,000 to two ex-Directors of Swindon Town.  That feels all wrong to me, regardless of the form of the contracts written at the time.  I'm almost pleased that the deal has fallen through.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 06:53:44
All that cocaine must take its toll.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 06:54:06
Doesn't sit right with me either...  strange set up, wonder how common it is?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 06:57:14
Personal terms, not medical apparently.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:07:23
Can't believe how little people are making of this,it is disgusting.If this was the current board Freddi would of had us fire bombing their houses by now


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:11:55
Personal terms, not medical apparently.

If he turned down personal terms someone else must have turned his head. Wonder if someone like Aston Villa jumped in late in view of Benteke's transfer request?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:15:51
Not happy about this, but there's not much we can do about it.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:24:22
If he turned down personal terms someone else must have turned his head. Wonder if someone like Aston Villa jumped in late in view of Benteke's transfer request?
Villa were "monitoring" Charlie last season so maybe his head has been turned by his agent. But then again if I was Charlie and the rumour was there that Villa and Hull were after me then I am afraid its a fucking easy choice to make, Hull are a recently promoted team and a bit of a hole of a place.

Also £4.5m is peanuts for a club like VIlla that are trying to sell Benteke for £20m+ so thats an easy £15m profit.

As for DRS saying that...I agree if it was the new board then the fans would be totally up in arms about the sell ons and fees to previous board members etc.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: manc_red on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:27:36
Can't believe how little people are making of this,it is disgusting.If this was the current board Freddi would of had us fire bombing their houses by now

It was a clause inserted into the contract for the sale of the club, wasn't it? In which case why should we be getting upset about it? They wrote off millions, if they want to try to recoup some by inserting clauses to take a percentage of an anticipated future windfall then whats so wrong with that? Unless I've missed something, in which case feel free to enlighten me.

And if it was a term of the sale of the club, why did the new lot agree to it?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: The_Doctor on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:30:09
I did state monies going to the old board weeks ago and I got slated for even suggesting it!

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=28647.msg1203529#msg1203529

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=28647.13635

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=28647.13650


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:34:06
Personal terms, not medical apparently.

Steve Bruce just confirmed on Talksport it was a failed medical if that is definetly true I cannot see Charlie getting a contract anywhere else in the Prem with his dodgy shoulder a real shame for the lad


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 07:38:08
I missed the bit about the cut of the sell on being arranged at the time of the Club's sale.  Seems more reasonable in that case.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 08:42:35
Can't believe how little people are making of this,it is disgusting.If this was the current board Freddi would of had us fire bombing their houses by now
some of us got stick for suggesting fitton was a cunt ages ago.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 08:54:25
I'd wager the club left them a lot more out of pocket than that small portion of a transfer fee would cover. I don't really care to be honest. People who've previously helped the club taking a cut, is like a drop in the ocean compared to the blood sucking agents' cut.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 08:55:22
some of us got stick for suggesting fitton was a cunt ages ago.

Yeah what a cunt, not wanting to write off 100% of the money he was owed.

IF this was part of the sale agreement I can't really see a problem with it. Everyone's getting a cut and the majority is still going to the club.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:10:02
Sky reporter on twitter saying early reports that he collapsed during the medical??


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: BenTheRed on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:12:40
Would this arrangement have been common for other transfers of the era? Richie and Cox


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:13:58
Would this arrangement have been common for other transfers of the era? Richie and Cox

Not if it was part of the sale of the club, no I wouldn't have thought so.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:26:36
Yeah what a cunt, not wanting to write off 100% of the money he was owed.

IF this was part of the sale agreement I can't really see a problem with it. Everyone's getting a cut and the majority is still going to the club.
plenty of negatives too. Meddling in team matters saw us relegated. The bloke was here to have his ego stroked. A posh boy wannabe football manager. Not like he sold his wedding ring-remortgaged his house to aid stfc


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:29:57
To an extent, I agree with what Arriba says with regard to my take on Fitton - virtually everything bar the initial takeover and 'finding' Austin went wrong. The delay of Wilson's sacking, his replacement, and poor transfer moves to name the main ones, ultimately leading to our relegation to the basement.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:39:51
To an extent, I agree with what Arriba says with regard to my take on Fitton - virtually everything bar the initial takeover and 'finding' Austin went wrong. The delay of Wilson's sacking, his replacement, and poor transfer moves to name the main ones, ultimately leading to our relegation to the basement.

Didn't he 'find' Flint? I wonder if there was a less-publicised fee in HIS contract when he was sold on.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:44:10
The bloke was here to have his ego stroked. A posh boy wannabe football manager. Not like he sold his wedding ring-remortgaged his house to aid stfc

Pretty much sums up 99% of football club chairmen, so yeah I agree.

My point was that this "deal" doesn't make him a cunt IMO. Sounds to me like it's been set up with the interests of both parties (old and new boards) in mind.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Bosey on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:49:31
Sky reporter on twitter saying early reports that he collapsed during the medical??

Surely he means the deal collapsed?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 09:51:43
Surely he means the deal collapsed?

@SkySportsMatt: Early reports about Charlie Austin's medical claim he collapsed during his medical. #HCFC #BFC


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:01:09
To an extent, I agree with what Arriba says with regard to my take on Fitton - virtually everything bar the initial takeover and 'finding' Austin went wrong. The delay of Wilson's sacking, his replacement, and poor transfer moves to name the main ones, ultimately leading to our relegation to the basement.

But by putting the takeover together he got rid of Diamandis and for that I am truely grateful.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:02:38
plenty of negatives too. Meddling in team matters saw us relegated. The bloke was here to have his ego stroked. A posh boy wannabe football manager. Not like he sold his wedding ring-remortgaged his house to aid stfc

To be fair he still wrote off cash to take this forward, I never understand the argument that there is uproar if season tickets go up, but owners should just plough cash into the club.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:04:35
@SkySportsMatt: Early reports about Charlie Austin's medical claim he collapsed during his medical. #HCFC #BFC

Steve Bruce said -

"There has been a bit of a problem with his medical, which is the worst scenario for everybody concerned," said Bruce. "It's an awful situation we find ourselves in but the medical is not great so it looks as if it is a non-starter at the moment.

"I think he is surprised because he has not missed many games over the last couple of years. It is a blow for him and a blow for us but these medicals are so stringent and obviously he has got a problem."



Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:05:14
I was a huge fan of Fitton at the beginning.  There was a massive sigh of relief that Diamandis had been moved on, and the improvements AF brought to the back office within weeks were clear to see.

As others have said, it was after that that things went wrong.  And because there was a well of goodwill towards AF and his people, he got off very lightly at the time in terms of criticism.  With hindsight, he probably did 90% of his good work with the club within 3 to 6 months of arriving.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:06:51
Steve Bruce said -

"There has been a bit of a problem with his medical, which is the worst scenario for everybody concerned," said Bruce. "It's an awful situation we find ourselves in but the medical is not great so it looks as if it is a non-starter at the moment.

"I think he is surprised because he has not missed many games over the last couple of years. It is a blow for him and a blow for us but these medicals are so stringent and obviously he has got a problem."

That's extraordinary.  Sounds like general lack of fitness as being the problem.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:17:35
Does Steve Bruce's repeated use of the word 'blow' indicate some other problem?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:19:29
That's extraordinary.  Sounds like general lack of fitness as being the problem.

It all does seem a little strange to say the least, especially as I don't think he has done his shoulder since 2011 anyway, also I am not sure how much of an issue fitness would be as that obviously can be worked on?

I do wonder if anything unforeseen has come up with regards to the plethora of tests they no doubt do, I assume they do blood tests etc which i suppose could show up some unexpected issues.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:28:13
I was a huge fan of Fitton at the beginning.  There was a massive sigh of relief that Diamandis had been moved on, and the improvements AF brought to the back office within weeks were clear to see.

As others have said, it was after that that things went wrong.  And because there was a well of goodwill towards AF and his people, he got off very lightly at the time in terms of criticism.  With hindsight, he probably did 90% of his good work with the club within 3 to 6 months of arriving.

With a bit of luck this new board will end up being exactly the opposite.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:54:49
To an extent, I agree with what Arriba says with regard to my take on Fitton - virtually everything bar the initial takeover and 'finding' Austin went wrong. The delay of Wilson's sacking, his replacement, and poor transfer moves to name the main ones, ultimately leading to our relegation to the basement.
If you completely ignore the huge amount of work Fitton, Wray and Watkins did to overhaul, set right and completely turn round what was an utter basket case of a business when they took over, then yeah, he was rubbish on the football side. I'd suggest the appointment of Watkins alone means Fitton deserves a far more generous retrospective than this slightly one-sided summary suggests. They didn't exactly inherit a thriving business that was ticking over nicely and just needed a steady hand on the tiller.


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Post by: DRS on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 10:57:58
To be fair they didn't exactly leave a thriving business that was ticking over nicely and just needed a steady hand on the tiller either.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Farmboy on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 11:00:49
He failed due to a knee cartilage problem. Not sure anyone else in the premiership will want him now, this info came from the man himself (via his next door neighbour)


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 11:01:33
To be fair they didn't exactly leave a thriving business that was ticking over nicely and just needed a steady hand on the tiller either.
Neither Fitton nor Wray were involved when Black pulled the plug which was set off the Administration alarm bells. But Wray has to bear his share of the responsibility for Di Canio's overspending, granted


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 11:05:01
I agree with what you say Paul, but I would attribute that more to Watkins and to a lesser extent, Wray. That's just my understanding though, I could be over-egging their roles and doing Fitton a disservice.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 11:11:34
I agree with what you say Paul, but I would attribute that more to Watkins and to a lesser extent, Wray. That's just my understanding though, I could be over-egging their roles and doing Fitton a disservice.
Well no-one knows exactly who did what, but the art of good leadership is often about recognising your own shortcomings and bring in people who can plug those gaps. Watkins probably takes the lions' share of the credit for most of the heavy lifting that created a thriving business out of the broken shell they walked into, but Fitton and Wray appointed him. If they did nothing else, that alone was a masterstroke and gives them a good share of the credit too IMO


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 11:26:24
To an extent, I agree with what Arriba says with regard to my take on Fitton - virtually everything bar the initial takeover and 'finding' Austin went wrong. The delay of Wilson's sacking, his replacement, and poor transfer moves to name the main ones, ultimately leading to our relegation to the basement.

His signing of Caddis and Ferry was quite shrewd to be fair.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 12:07:08
His signing of Caddis and Ferry was quite shrewd to be fair.
Not sure about that. Not as though Ferry made us a load of money with a sale down the line. Brought for 6 figures and released on a free. Caddis we will see, but it was reported we paid £350k for the pair of them and I can't see us flogging Caddis for an amount like that.

Depending on who you believe, there was talk that Wilson didn't want those 2 but Fitton went and got them anyway.



Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 12:09:59
Didn't he 'find' Flint? I wonder if there was a less-publicised fee in HIS contract when he was sold on.
Reliably informed this is incorrect. Or 'bollocks' if you want the exact phrase.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 12:13:31
Not sure about that. Not as though Ferry made us a load of money with a sale down the line. Brought for 6 figures and released on a free. Caddis we will see, but it was reported we paid £350k for the pair of them and I can't see us flogging Caddis for an amount like that.

Depending on who you believe, there was talk that Wilson didn't want those 2 but Fitton went and got them anyway.



But they were both key parts of a team that won the League 2 title and got to Wembley in the JPT. Not all about how much they were sold for, would argue we got good value out of those signings.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 12:30:12
But they were both key parts of a team that won the League 2 title and got to Wembley in the JPT. Not all about how much they were sold for, would argue we got good value out of those signings.

Quite, Ferry played nearly 150 times for us, featured prominently in two L1 play off teams and an L2 winning side. Indeed the only time he wasn't a regular in his time here (when Prutton ousted him and at the start of PDCs reign) the team struggled .

So I'd say we got our moneys worth.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 13:01:24
But they were both key parts of a team that won the League 2 title and got to Wembley in the JPT. Not all about how much they were sold for, would argue we got good value out of those signings.
I agree. The true value of a player is in how he contributes to a team and not purely in a resale value.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 13:38:47
Reliably informed this is incorrect. Or 'bollocks' if you want the exact phrase.

Well that's encouraging.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 18:00:20
Failed a medical......was it that niggly shoulder or something else?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 18:01:42
Failed a medical......was it that niggly shoulder or something else?
twer his kneecap this time, a new injury.


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 10, 2013, 08:25:36
Wasn't his knee the reason that he was let go by Reading? Or am I dreaming that?


Title: Re: Adver News: Town poised to claim £300,000 Austin cash boost
Post by: Processed Beats on Wednesday, July 10, 2013, 08:27:09
Wasn't his knee the reason that he was let go by Reading? Or am I dreaming that?

I thought he was released for being too small?