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Title: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 18:46:42
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22846846

I will tip if service is good but I always ask if management take the tips...Chinese are cunts for this...if so I tip cash in hand.

Service or food shit...no tip.

And discuss?


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: walcot red on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 18:51:04
I normally tip 10% if the service is good upto 15% if they go all out and really impress. no tip if they can't be arsed.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 19:11:06
I just leave the shrapnel as I don't want it in my wallet. The misses or my daughter usually pick it up and pocket it though.


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Post by: DMR on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 20:39:48
I just leave the shrapnel as I don't want it in my wallet. The misses or my daughter usually pick it up and pocket it though.

Haha pikeys


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: yeo on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 20:42:42
I never go anywhere but if i did it would depend on how drunk I was.


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Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 20:43:04
depends on the service i spose, will normally round up if its no more than a couple of quid,


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Notts red on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 21:12:55
Not a bad idea when on holiday to leave a Good tip on the first couple of night, helps get you served quicker/bigger measures for the rest of the stay  :)


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Post by: Shaw Rosso on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 21:17:15
I thought this was a thread about getting rid of garden waste, furniture, black bags, rubble and all that sort of thing. Well if you have loads to clear out of the shed, garage etc and you are trying and squeeze it into the back of the wife's Corsa, don't bother as I have heard of a fantastic company known as Mates Rates Swindon, get them to do it for you, and they are registered with the environment agency, so no chance of finding the snail ridden paddling pools dumped in some unsuspecting farmers field  ;)


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Notts red on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 21:18:59
I thought this was a thread about getting rid of garden waste, furniture, black bags, rubble and all that sort of thing. Well if you have loads to clear out of the shed, garage etc and you are trying and squeeze it into the back of the wife's Corsa, don't bother as I have heard of a fantastic company known as Mates Rates Swindon, get them to do it for you, and they are registered with the environment agency, so no chance of finding the snail ridden paddling pools dumped in some unsuspecting farmers field  ;)
Do you need to tip them when they've finished?


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 21:23:56
Well funny you should mention that. I heard that some bastards, even after leaving a big back style tv smashed up and filled up with human excrement, don't even get anywhere near clicking the kettle and rolling out the custard creams whereas some striver types have a king size mattress taken away and pay double the asking price, so I heard. Different folks.... Apparently they have a FACEBOOK PAGE http://www.facebook.com/pages/MATES-RATES-Swindon/389470767816519  ;)


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 21:33:38
Always tip 10% or so in restaurants, so long as the service hasn't been abominably shit.


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Post by: Fred Elliot on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 23:16:53
I just leave the shrapnel as I don't want it in my wallet. The misses or my daughter usually pick it up and pocket it though.

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Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, June 15, 2013, 23:33:49
As I work in a pub for just over minimum wage, and tips make up my 'beer money' for the week, anyone who comes in, eats, and doesn't tip annoys me (I don't expect drinkers to tip, the price of booze is already too high, and this isn't the US). I like to think I put the extra effort in to make people's visits as easy/good as possible, not because I'm that snotty fucker who couldn't give a shite and just wants the cash, but because I actually enjoy my work and want to see people having a good meal and a drink in a nice place, enjoying themselves, and wanting to come back again.

Big groups, which you'd think would be a goldmine for tips, are normally pretty stingy. When they've spent 200/300/400 odd quid, and leave something like a £2 tip (which happens VERY regularly), it does rankle. Through no fault of their own, larger groups tend to be more difficult to look after, particularly for a small wait/bar staff, and require an extra level of care and attention, particularly when you've got other things to be doing, so for them to leave no tip, or a tip of 1% is a bit of a fucking pisstake. And it's not just because I've given them shite service or whatever, it's a normal, regular occurrence that happens all over the place.

As I know about the 'other side' of service, I'm always careful when tipping myself. As someone's said, Chinese sit-in restaurants are fuckers for stealing tips, likewise for most 'chain' places if you tip on the plastic. Chain pubs/restaurants are bastards- I always ask if tips are shared, and if the company takes a cut. If both are true, cash goes straight into someone's hand. Probably because I work in the industry and appreciate how much a little extra can take, I always tip a little extra if I think someone's service was particularly good. 10% is a 'normal' tip in the UK (and, conveniently, easy to work out), 15/20% is a 'I've had very good service, thankyou.' tip.

If I go somewhere where they have a 'discretionary' surchage, I will ask for it to be taken off the bill, and pay for what I think they deserve- most of the time it goes straight into the manager's pockets anyway. Some places can take the piss- one of my favourite sushi places in London had a 25% 'discretional' surcharge on the bill.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, June 16, 2013, 00:20:43
So you want paying extra for doing what you should be doing as a matter of course


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, June 16, 2013, 01:58:40
Depends on what part of the world you are in.  Most of Europe and UK include a service charge on the bill and will get at least minimum wage plus tips for doing the job.  In the US a lot of service staff get paid by tips alone.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, June 16, 2013, 08:00:35
I leave 10% normally, save for occasions when service has been slow or rubbish. It riles me when they don't bring change and assume they are going to get to keep it.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, June 16, 2013, 08:23:11
It riles me when they don't bring change and assume they are going to get to keep it.

Yeah, that annoys me too. It's underhand.

So you want paying extra for doing what you should be doing as a matter of course

No, I want a show of appreciation for bending over backwards to please you picky, drunk, boring as fuck, impatient tossers in a shite job with crap pay. If you earnt just over minimum wage per hour, I'm sure you wouldn't decline tips if they were offered.

I do appreciate the 'Reservoir Dogs' argument, why do we tip certain people and not others?  I imagine it's a historical thing, i.e. you tip the barber because if you didn't he might slit your throat and dump you in the canal next time you were in.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, June 16, 2013, 12:18:01
US is annoying for Tips, you have to tip them for practically taking a shit.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: nochee on Sunday, June 16, 2013, 13:34:57
Taxi drivers get great tips from me on the way home after a night out. My body has a kind of magnetic force dragging me to my bed resulting in a £10 note being thrown in the general direction of the driver and a slurred "keep the change usually follows it"


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 17, 2013, 09:47:32
I do tip, but I don't like the idea of it. Sometimes the portion sizes not the service will stop me from leaving a tip. One place I went to had a cheesecake dessert for around a fiver. It was the size of a cheese triangle. Utter pisstake.


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Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:00:35
US is annoying for Tips, you have to tip them for practically taking a shit.

The U.S is a completely different model of business though. It's more of the custom to tip more because the prices are cheaper in the first place, it's more part of the staffs wages and the restaurant chain doesn't try to pocket tips themselves.

It actually promotes better Customer Service, something we lack in this country quite badly.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:13:46
The U.S is a completely different model of business though. It's more of the custom to tip more because the prices are cheaper in the first place, it's more part of the staffs wages and the restaurant chain doesn't try to pocket tips themselves.

It actually promotes better Customer Service, something we lack in this country quite badly.
if you think customer service in the UK is bad then don't visit Scandinavia.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:16:53
because the prices are cheaper in the first place,

When was the last time you went?


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Post by: Peter Gibbons on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:46:59
It actually promotes better Customer Service, something we lack in this country quite badly.
No offence, but personally I think this is a classic example of received wisdom. Either that or my idea of good service is at polar opposites to d every one else's. I don't want your recommendations. I don't want to hear about your day, nor do I want to tell you about mine. Fuck the fuck off, bring my food and don't ask me if everything is ok after i've had a few mouthfulls, you fake cunt. Personally i'd rather tip the chef and collect my own food from a serving hatch. And yes, I do always tip the waiter, minimum 10%.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:50:08
Personally i'd rather tip the chef and collect my own food from a serving hatch.

I often agree with this... I left a healthy tip at a restaurant the other day because the food was so good and, in my opinion, under-priced, even though the chap who cooked it won't see any of my tip unless it went into a shared pot.


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:52:16
No offence, but personally I think this is a classic example of received wisdom. Either that or my idea of good service is at polar opposites to d every one else's. I don't want your recommendations. I don't want to hear about your day, nor do I want to tell you about mine. Fuck the fuck off, bring my food and don't ask me if everything is ok after i've had a few mouthfulls, you fake cunt. Personally i'd rather tip the chef and collect my own food from a serving hatch. And yes, I do always tip the waiter, minimum 10%.

YES. There's a bloke who works in my canteen serving coffee and has the most fake overly polite customer service attitude. I fucking hate the cunt.


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Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, June 17, 2013, 10:56:21
I hated that in America and it's becoming more and more pervasive in the UK that it makes my skin crawl at times.


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Post by: 4D on Monday, June 17, 2013, 11:02:44
I've said it on here before, why do some supermarket checkout staff now have to ask you how your day has been, have you had a busy day. Please just give me some more bags, I want to get out of here asap.

Actually, I'm probably just as false by saying " good thanks etc etc" when I should be saying  "shite"


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 17, 2013, 11:12:19
and don't ask me if everything is ok after i've had a few mouthfulls, you fake cunt.

Has anybody ever said no to this question either after a few mouthfuls or after the meal?

I'm the classic rubber spined "yes fine" even if it isn't, but the Mrs is pretty good at complain if its warrented. Its scary and funny when it happens. usually the staff don't know what to do. Some are good at dealing with the complaint though.

On the tip situation, usually yes but if service and/or food has been shit then no. I have a couple of mates who always tip regardless, it winds me up.

Case Study: Swindon briefly had a TGI Friday in Shaw. The food took an hour to arrive, no word on a delay or apology from the waitress. The mates still wanted to tip.



Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 17, 2013, 11:16:26
I am more likely to complain now than when I was younger. You could actually say "I'll tell you what, I'll let you know at the end"


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Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 17, 2013, 11:23:36
If I am faced with somebody trying to make cheesy false conversation with me, I just pretend I can't speak Thai. (Provided it's a Thai, of course)


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: blah blah on Monday, June 17, 2013, 13:47:10
I'm getting to the stage now where the wife & kids get scared if they see me not enjoying a meal. They know I'm going to complain, and get really embarrassed by it. I dont see it like that though - if service is crap or food is badly cooked, I'm sure the manager would want to know about it so he can stop it happening again. If everything gets brushed under the carpet, the business will ultimately fail as people continually wont recommend it and wont go back.

And I've got a few free meals from complaining :-)


Title: Re: Tipping? TEF view
Post by: Arriba on Monday, June 17, 2013, 13:52:46
I find complaining about food pretty pointless. If you send it back the chef will probably wipe his cock on your steak or something anyway. Best to bite the bullet, not tip and just not go back to said establishment.


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Post by: Pete on Monday, June 17, 2013, 14:04:54
I find complaining about food pretty pointless. If you send it back the chef will probably wipe his cock on your steak or something anyway. Best to bite the bullet, not tip and just not go back to said establishment.

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