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Town turn down Flint offers
           
           


  SWINDON Town are keen to hang on to Aden Flint in the wake of interest from several Football League clubs.

           

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Gone

On holiday?

If Benson is back in the fold, and we're to sign Rooney, then one of Collins or Williams has to go. My money would be on Collins as he'd command some sort of fee.

As far as Flint goes, at least the Board have got a bit of an auction going , so we may be able to get 300K for him.

Aggregate Reg?  :)

'Every player has their price' is the quote!

If the board are holding out for £300k for Caddis, then we would never get £300k for Flint.

I'm not sure you get the gravelty of the situation.

Fredi has posted on this list, his/her latest take on matters, now most of it is fairly obvious interpretation of the scraps of evidence that we have  :sherlock:.....but the stuff about creditors is a worry. I've still got my list somewhere of all the creditors we had teh last time we went into admin...14 sides of dense A4.

Think we paid £200k for Flint, when a non league player...he's clearly improved since then, I'd have thought we'd get 300K if itwent to tribunal.

fredi says...
8:07am Fri 17 May 13

 Ok, enough is enough. I do not know who feeds Sam the persistent misinformation, but I would hope that his editor's recent treatment by Mr Murrall has not scared him into merely becoming the mouthpiece for an unpleasant regime who see bully boy tactics as the best way to excuse their own behaviour and to ensure that the the lies that are told go unquestioned.

So rather than have the fans suffer death by a thousand cuts as a miserable summer of bad news unfolds ( we have suffered enough already this season, on and off the field), let me raise a few uncomfortable truths now so that they can be discussed openly on here, investigated properly by the media and hopefully pursued thoroughly by bodies such as the STFC Trust.

I will start with the players. Aden Flint is for sale. Nathan Thompson is for sale. Wes Foderingham is for sale. Any player with a monetary value is for sale. The club has an agent running round at present trying to offload the high wage earners and secure transfer fees where possible. Interestingly, the players' agents are all dealing direct with the Club's real owner Lee Power - for how long is Jed going to deny he sold the club to Power and Crouch months ago, as correctly reported on local radio ?

Initially I was going to ignore the "introductory fee" Jed secured from Power on the basis it was outside the Club's books, a good bit of business for Jed, fair play to him. But his claim in the truly pathetic answers to the Trust's questions, that all he has got for his hard work and investment is a "headache", will be hard to swallow by most hardworking Town fans. Combined with the "consultancy fees" taken out in the first few weeks, Jed has trousered over £250k, the sort of migraine most of us would put up with. And his "investment"? Still a round number - zero. Waving a piece of paper in front of us at that meeting is hardly proof of anything - the only investment into the club remains Power's £1.2m loan and that is all but spent.

Hence the Club's critical financial state once more. It will not survive the summer without proper investment or the sale of every saleable asset. Trade creditors are being ignored - I know of at least two who are initiating legal proceedings to get what they are owed and another served a winding up order on the Club recently. Perhaps Mr Murrall can explain why it is considered appropriate business practice to pay "consultancy" fees to the directors on taking over, out of club cash flow, in preference to creditors who have been owed money for months ? Simple question, let's have an answer. And once and for all, can we put an end to the myth that the Club will raise more than a million pounds this summer from concerts at the CG ? This is our Board's so called area of expertise, so let's hear their amusing logistics of how this is going to happen in the three months that remain before next season. Any dates set ? Any acts booked ? Any council/police etc permissions sought ? Any advertising booked, tickets for sale ? Do the Board think we are all stupid ?

One person must be exonerated from any blame. KMac has behaved stoically throughout all this and so nearly got the Wembley trip he and the players deserved. He has been properly shafted by this Board and is powerless to affect what goes on. He has no idea which players will be here next season and can make no plans. What is happening preseason ? This is a football club for goodness sake. Does the Board have any strategy going forward ? Would they care to tell us ? And a final question - does everyone understand now what asset stripping is ?”

That sounds less than ideal. I want to not believe a word of it but I'm struggling.

Likewise. Especially the bit about creditors going unpaid.

Now, where did I put my orange hat?

If true why wont he talk to Sam?

So who do we want to believe? Some anonymous poster on thisis or the board that stepped in when no-one else would to rescue STFC from the jaws of administration?

Yeah, me too. Andrew Black you've got a fuck of a lot to answer for.

It's a lot of hassle to type all that, and is well written.

I would ask why is he doing it, but if he does know more why does he not talk to Sam Morshead?

His posts are like the board- an unknown entity.

I want to believe the Board. My gut feeling, however, is that Fredi knows what (s)he's talking about and the intentions of the Board are beginning to seriously worry me. We shall see in the next few weeks, if players are sold off one by one with no replacements brought in, what the real story is.

The most worrying thing is that the alternative to the current Board is almost certainly administration.......

fredi had the perfect opportunity to present evidence of his claims when the trust met with the board.

He chose not to, which speaks volumes.

What if its a she

Yep and Sam pressumably wanted the same from him, again he declined.

Some of what he is saying sounds perfectly believeable but until he backs up his claims with evidence his claims are Dr Chang like pure speculation.

is she fit?

tits & evidence or gtfo?

I thought that Fredi had got in contact with Sam, I could of sworn Sam said Fredi had replied to his email.

Did Fredi get in contact with him then refuse to give proof?

According to Sam, contact was made but no proof was given.

hmmm. Well could be a complete BS'r, or could be he/she didn't want to give himself/herself away.

We'll have to wait and see..

Surely the only problem with revealing your identity would only occur if what they are saying isnt true.They say they got all this info yet dont back it up

Exactly

If what they are saying is true then the board would know the source(s)

Not quite fair, it may be true but not provable. A lot of the stuff he says would be difficult to prove even if it was true.

Makes me wonder why Murrall threatened the Adver with lawyers. Maybe they are worried the Adver will begin to publish this sort of stuff if this person comes forward? Sounds real dodgy to me personally. Also it may be that he/she doesn't want to be threatened with legal action and drop the Adver in it at the same time?

fredi has claimed to have evidence.

They threatened legal for publishing that the ladies manager had met with the chairman.It wasnt true

Ah right that clears that one up then.

He claimed to have evidence of consultancy fees and the company cars both of which Jed has admitted to in all fairness. Not sure about the rest.

He's not only claiming to have evidence but also claiming to have sent it.

Are the press and the trust lying to us?

Can we have a look at what Fredi said last time and 'tick' it off what he said that cme out as I do seem to recall a few things being said and then being admitted by the board.

What Fredi says seems to logical thought out to be just BS that is where I struggle to dis-beleive it, I dont blame Fredi for not exposing himself as if he has got this info then he wont want to run the risk of someone finding out who he is.

I seem to recall Fredi stating in his original post that he/she had an 'interesting job'. There could be a possibility that this 'interesting job' could be at risk if he/she spills the beans. It's highly likely that wherever this information has come from to be obtained by Fredi it was meant to have been confidential (data protection & all that). The question for me is does Fredi value his/her job more than the football club he/she supports.

All of this COULD be true, but then he/she could also just be a scummer on the wind up.

I hope it's the latter to be honest!

I'm on the Trust board...and we've never seen it as far as I know of.

Perhaps he doesn't want to out himself. Even 'off the record'

To be honest even if he is a complete BS'er, Oxford fan or whatever the concerns he posted in the post have been brought up by others elsewhere. I don't think those fears are ground breaking and there are no real accusations this time.

I think all we can do is as he suggest, leave it to the media and other groups to peruse. And cross fingers.

Some maybe true,but my issue is the things like cars and being paid.Watkins took a big wage,the board all had cars.People worrying about Power didnt give a fuck when it was Spencer who did the same thing.Listen this board may be the worst thing that ever happens to us but they seem to be getting alot of shit based on rumours.Players we like will leave this summer due to ridiculous wages they were paid an the new lot will have to deal with that aswell.I am inclined to wait the summer out and see how they deal with it rather than listen to myrterious internet posters.

I've no doubt Fredi does know quite a bit.

Not sure the Winding Up Orders are correct though. Firstly it's the court which issues the order, a creditor will make an application to the court: a Winding Up Petition. Secondly, this gets published in the London Gazette - there hasn't been anything in there as I checked. Thirdly, it must be a sizeable chunk of money as it costs a fair bit to apply for this.

There was an application to strike off the holding company, which I assumed was because it was no longer needed. However, this has been suspended due to an objection received. It could be that Companies House instigated the striking off action (due to accounts not being filed).

I believe Fredi. He-she has thrown enough out there for the adver and trust to investigate. Trouble is one is taken in too easily the other has about as much clout as a 85 year old  grannie swinging her handbag.

If these big creditors exist why doesn't Fredi just name them? I'm sure they'll be only too happy to confirm to the adver that substantial money is owed to them?

i'll guess we'll see when McCrory gets back as to whether fredi's comments are libellous, I reckon he/she works at GCHQ, that would be an interesting job (have i sad that before - who knows? are they watching me?)

Always been worried and concerned since JedCo came in, this does nothing to reduce those fears!

With the creditor issue - I thought the club owed no money when Black handed over the reins?

How much debt could they have realistically have racked up in the short time since then?

I'm no fan of Jed and Co. but if you were a big creditor of the club and wanted payment wouldn't you just inform the Adver the club owes you and try and shame them into paying up - at the very least it would make things uncomfortable for Jed.

I've always thought from day one they were in only in it for what they could squeeze out of the club and I am absolutely certain none of them has the first idea how to run a football club.

I fear it's going to go very bad before we have a chance of getting better

I don't disagree.


It may be stupidly inaccurate shit, but this is what happens when boards go silent bar the odd tweet and the perhaps a director-or-maybe-not linked in profile update.

Thus far they've run it (the club) exactly opposite to the Fitton consortium. We didn't think that was minted at the time, but even given an "anything better than the last lot" backdrop they were open and communicative from day 1.

Totally agree Batch.PR and communication is fucking awful and needs sorting straight away.

For some reason, I'll call it a gut feeling, I'm willing to believe an anonymous internet user over the few statements released by our board. I know unsubstantiated rumour is just that, but for some reason, I get a feeling in my ample stomach that there is some truth behind it all, and we are well and truly screwed. It's a feeling I can't shake, for one reason or another.

Too late, he's already outed himself or has at least narrowed it down to a few individuals. (If the allegations are true)

If you told me something in confidence and nobody else and 2 weeks later that information was available on the net, you'd know exactly who is to blame.

Any idea who the mystery person is then?

No. Why would I?

Fountain of knowledge. I thought maybe our Far-East correspondent may have some dish to dirt!!!

 :hmmm:

Seconded and my stomach is more than ample

who do we think fredi is then if it's narrowed down to a few?

I don't know. It could all be BS anyway .

But to counter for countering sake what if he was one from a group of employees or ex-employees that had access. They'd narrow it down to a few people but not a specific individual to pursue. Actually, you made this point anyway..

This part made me think that maybe Fredi was at the meeting or is part of the groups that were invited, or am I reading to much into the "us"?

thought the same, but he may be using it as in "us" the fan base.

I'm buggered if I know. Can only guess.

If true then it's somebody privvy to sensitive information.

If not then it's somebody privvy to some information and embellishing the rest. It could just be a secretary in earshot of some discussions and who answers the phone.

a lot of what fredi hss come out with are rumours that have been doing the rounds but with embellished details that can't be immediately disproved and seem plausible. I'm not sure I believe anyone really

The Board were quick enough to release a statement following the article with the Ladies team manager.  Let's see how quick they are to come out and dispute the latest accusations?

There's very little doubt in my mind that something is going on and it's not good.  I have nothing to back that up other than the same nagging feeling others seem to have.

Not sure that Crouch joining was a rumour before fredi mentioned it which makes me think he may know bits.

Could even just be a weirdo that hangs out in the car park waiting to see who comes and goes for all we know.

Thought that was tans?

I can think of one large 'creditor' straight away - SBC - they would be owed rent on the ground plus extras agreed in the lease (which has expired)

Would a freedom of information request tell if payment etc is up to date - is that how you find out ?

I don't recall him specifically naming Crouch and he still isn't named as a director is he?

He did give Crouch's initials, a bit too much of a coincidence for me.

Although I have wondered why he'd give his initials and not just name him.

He didnt name Crouch but used his initials if i remember rightly. Im with Lucien here. It may be BS but something deep down makes me feel really uneasy about this board. I dont want us to be in another Diamandis situation again.

Who's Fredi? Anyone on here?  :sherlock:

I'm fredi.

ah yes, someone on here found his LinkedIn from the initials.

Football phil is fredi

So if we sign players and announce dates for the concerts etc does that discredit Frederic.

It's Rodney trotters dad, Freddie the frog :sherlock:

Sure

It must be getting seriously late in the day to announce a series of major concerts for this summer now.

Little mix are available anytime :suicide:

Remember when Fredi posted the stuff about 'SRC' aka Crouch and got it spot on?

Very silly to write him off as a troll when he has been proved correct in the past. There may be plenty of wind up merchants out there, butI highly doubt that he is one of them.

Ha would love it if it was you. I know what you are saying about Crouch but a few people knew about him.As for concerts it isnt too late if they have them all agreed already,would imagine they will be announced soon

People may have known about Crouch but it was him who put it out there and made it public knowledge. The majority of Town fans had no idea about him till his comment.

If it is a wind up, then it is a superb one.

Ok. Next week we will announce the concerts we will also get Beckham as manager.So if the concerts are announced because i said first should people assume i am right about Beckham then?

D-Beck to sign as manager and the big name concerts are six back to back nights with his missus reliving her glorious solo career.

You're missing the point - Black was underwriting all that, and then some. The concern, and it seems perfectly reasonable one unfortunately, is that this lot are trousering all that but putting fuck all in. It happens, ask Port Vale.

Can anyone tell me what the fuck Callum Rice does to earn his salary?

Hi guys, been away for a week, what's been happeni....

Oh.

OH.

Imagine he means someone's served a statutory demand.

Lot of women on the blob on here today...

He's worked the cruises, you know. And done a season in Majorca.

Can't let the delicious irony of this go uncredited.

Pics, or GTFOoooh wait.

Is he even an active part of the board still?

And then Fredi counts out the £1.8m good uns in the centre circle and says 'sorry' before our pre-season friendly against Barcelona.

Trying to secure some concerts as there ain't a pot to piss in otherwise(gut feeling based on everything out there)

Nice to see Sonic got a more reasoned answer to my question  ;D In all seriousness, when you say it's been narrowed down considerably, do you have any idea who you think could be a candidate? I'm genuinely interested - ex employee, current employee, it seems to be somebody who close links to the club in some capacity - but who???

I don't know anybody that works at the club. If you're looking for a specific individual(s), you're asking the wrong person. I can only guess that it may, or may not, be a secretary or something.

I would imagine it's somebody with more authority than a sec!! These are pretty strong accusations being made. My gut instinct tells me that everything Fredi has said is true. I really hoped this board would be the real deal & they had my full backing when they first came in (to the point that people thought I was Jed when I joined this forum , such was my defence of him and pleading with people to give him time) but my patience has well and truly run out. I just hope Fredi has the balls to come out and say who he or she is & let the shit hit the fan.

FreddySTFC = fredi

I would imagine someone from the accounts dept who might have been replaced recently...

:no:

Although to originally be labelled jed & now be labelled as the person who is seemingly trying to oust him is quite an achievement. I've come full circle  :D

Something like that I reckon.

Have you been called a cunt yet though?

Fredi=fired

Go on. I know your dying to!!!! :D

Nah

Full baptizement to the TEF should be candid I reckon.

Pretty sure my baptism has already occurred. If not I've done well to get this far!

Fuck off cunt

You're the last person I expected it to come from  :(

Haha what do you mean by that? Do i know you?

Ooh the clue could be in the name  :sherlock:

Hi my name is Freda and I have links with the club. I have met Jed on more than one of my many visits to the county ground and hr has assured me very modestly he is actually a billionaire who is pretending to be not very rich to keep grounded. I know for a fact he has personally spent over £10m on swindon including spent £15.00 of his own money getting a market pen to cross out every reference to Paolo in the club, I.e deli.

his statements are infrequent because he is attending to the 8 children he has. 6 of these children were adopted from extreme poverty in Malawi and the other 2 were saved from an even worse fate in Oxford . Last week he also rescued a kitten who was trapped in Callum Rice's hair.

Gary Hooper is also a wonderful man, having met him I am convinced he can take the club forward. He has kind eyes and will help the county ground host Wembley style concerts hopefully in September. He also has a sister named Alice who has a successful rock band. Here is my season ticket and proof

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soapy tit wank

Law states that a WUP cannot be advertised (via the LG or any form of written or verbal media) for a period of 14 days after the confirmation of service.

A WUP could well have been served but the club dealt with it within the 14 day period, hence it would not show up on any searches of the LG

Just a thought like

But I was referring to Winding Up Orders issued by the court Fred.

Ha ha, no!! It's just I'd never seen you use the word cunt before on this forum  ;D

Stick around, you will soon see how wrong you are

Think you may have missed my sarcasm there Berni  :D