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Title: 4,600
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:06:29
According to the Adver that is the number of season tickets sold, pretty good number given the situation we find ourselves in. :smugfu:


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:12:23
According to the Adver that is the number of season tickets sold, pretty good number given the situation we find ourselves in. :smugfu:
Potentially 8 games away from the Championship?


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:16:11
The free finance offer must have made a big difference. good initiative that.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: red sheldon on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:40:56
how many were sold this season????


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:42:50
about 5,600 I believe


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:53:52
4,600 STs equates to about £1.2m.

Interesting!


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:57:35
4,600 STs equates to about £1.2m.

Interesting!

Does that account for kids and other concessions?


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 13:07:37
Does that account for kids and other concessions?

I'd imagine 4,600 falls short of that sum, when concessions are accounted for...we've only got one saleable asset...Foderingham. We're lucky in a sesnse that PdC wont be coming back for any of his old players, with the possible exception of Wes.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 13:22:03
I'd imagine 4,600 falls short of that sum, when concessions are accounted for...we've only got one saleable asset...Foderingham. We're lucky in a sesnse that PdC wont be coming back for any of his old players, with the possible exception of Wes.

Caddis is an asset


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:06:54
I'd imagine 4,600 falls short of that sum, when concessions are accounted for...we've only got one saleable asset...Foderingham. We're lucky in a sesnse that PdC wont be coming back for any of his old players, with the possible exception of Wes.

Nate dog. Arsenal have been watching him for donkey's.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:08:30
I would have thought Storey was sellable and as Wolves were in for Collins so he would be as well.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:12:10
Yeah Storey as well. forgot him, hope he's fit before the end of the season.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:13:09
Yeah Storey as well. forgot him, hope he's fit before the end of the season.

Out of contract...


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: dagrumpymunki on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:22:02
Am I the only one slightly baffled by Reg's crashing segue from season ticket sales to potentially saleable players?


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:23:19
Out of contract...

Under 24... And sure to be offered one anyway.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:23:29
Nate dog. Arsenal have been watching him for donkey's.

Wenger has someone watching every player on the planet, most extensive scouting network in existence apparently.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:24:29
Under 24... And sure to be offered one anyway.

Stop letting the facts get in the way of the misery!


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:31:31
Am I the only one slightly baffled by Reg's crashing segue from season ticket sales to potentially saleable players?

I'd imagine so, Reg being negative is easier to predict than rain.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:37:34
Am I the only one slightly baffled by Reg's crashing segue from season ticket sales to potentially saleable players?

KR hinting that the ST money is being used by the Board to fund the £1.2 mill required to cover the FL guarantee. Reeves suggests it might not be so much...ergo the Board will need a sale (like the Ritchie sale) to make ends meet.

Unfortunately we're not in a position of strength...as shown by all clubs being notified a while back that all players were for sale, and not having any one player besides Wes who's likely to attract a decent fee.

If as DoB suggests the present Board are looking to cut and run...we could be in for another brush with insolvency.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 14:43:02
KR hinting that the ST money is being used by the Board to fund the £1.2 mill required to cover the FL guarantee. Reeves suggests it might not be so much...ergo the Board will need a sale (like the Ritchie sale) to make ends meet.

Unfortunately we're not in a position of strength...as shown by all clubs being notified a while back that all players were for sale, and not having any one player besides Wes who's likely to attract a decent fee.

If as DoB suggests the present Board are looking to cut and run...we could be in for another brush with insolvency.

Oh fuck not again. Doomed, we're doomed!


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 15:17:44
Oh fuck not again. Doomed, we're doomed!

As a  :clap: would you care to paint an alternative picture of events of the last couple of months , and the immediate future. I'd be more than happy to take a positive view...it's just aside from being grateful that an immediate descent into Administration was avoided I can't see one.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 15:37:58
I really fucking hate the phrase "happy clapper". It was bad enough when people used it to describe those who didn't want to "rock the boat" under Diamandis.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: dagrumpymunki on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 18:39:20
Fuck me Reg, have you contracted some terminal illness that you're not telling anyone about?

Explain how a club that a few weeks ago had no significant outstanding liabilities is suddenly haunted by the threat of insolvency.

I'm aware that our income doesn't cover our outgoings, but that puts us in the same boat as all but a handful of clubs in from League 1 upwards. Most of those also have historic debt.

And the season ticket money = the money vested to satisfy the League requirements rumour that someone's plucked out of their arse sounds like the biggest load of cobblers I've heard since the last load of old cobblers based on fuck all evidence that was posted on here.



Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 18:53:58

A few weeks ago we were told, the club was close to Administration and a player had to be sold to see us through to April.

We've heard nothing from the Board about future funding...and been told by a normally reliable source, they're looking to get out already. Why?  


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 19:03:06
Unfortunately, I'm with Reg. All town fans should keep a lot of room in their hearts for pessimism.


Title: Re: Re: Re: 4,600
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 19:05:06
Unfortunately, I'm with Reg. All town fans should keep a lot of room in their hearts for pessimism.
Or all out negativity. It's the future!


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 19:07:38
Or all out negativity. It's the future!

Future, that's a bit optimistic.

Joking aside, the spidey sense is still tingling on this one. Could be early arthritis I suppose.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 19:24:34
Unfortunately, I'm with Reg. All town fans should keep a lot of room in their hearts for pessimism.

I wouldn't say I'm with Reg, but let's just say I have not dismissed his posts as easily since the new lot came in.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 20:10:38
I really fucking hate the phrase "happy clapper".

Likewise Sonic. Was expecting no less though. Think it's simply used by some to lazily describe those who actually have a bit of hope. I'm sure there's much worse to be used for anyone who dares to be positive.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 20:15:30
As a  :clap: would you care to paint an alternative picture of events of the last couple of months , and the immediate future. I'd be more than happy to take a positive view...it's just aside from being grateful that an immediate descent into Administration was avoided I can't see one.

Not really Reg (think Lumps has had a reasonable go FWIW). I just don't see why you have to continually be such a prophet of doom. I'm sure the feeling is mutual but thank god I haven't got to live with you. If your (half) empty glass philosophy carries through to the rest of your life I'd be suicidal within hours.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 20:22:12
It is a bloody good number sold.....if we do reach the promised land of The Championship then that will double i reckon.

Great effort by Town fans that.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: dogs on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 20:23:32
Not really Reg (think Lumps has had a reasonable go FWIW). I just don't see why you have to continually be such a prophet of doom. I'm sure the feeling is mutual but thank god I haven't got to live with you. If your (half) empty glass philosophy carries through to the rest of your life I'd be suicidal within hours.

I mainly lurk but always wonder if reg actually enjoys the football anymore and is more akin to the flat earth advocates who just want to debate.I never see him commenting on games or on the occasions where we've had some great days recently, but aplenty on anything remotely negative.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 20:28:19
I mainly lurk but always wonder if reg actually enjoys the football anymore and is more akin to the flat earth advocates who just want to debate.I never see him commenting on games or on the occasions where we've had some great days recently, but aplenty on anything remotely negative.

Forum....even the Romans had men who would preach doom and negativity.

Because thats how they saw it....thats how Reg sees it and has the bollox to say it.

Gladly these days the preachers of facts and doom are more readily welcomed.....a lot better than being poisoned by claret or thrown in a pit of poisinous  snakes ::)


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: dogs on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 20:43:33
Forum....even the Romans had men who would preach doom and negativity.

Because thats how they saw it....thats how Reg sees it and has the bollox to say it.

Gladly these days the preachers of facts and doom are more readily welcomed.....a lot better than being poisoned by claret or thrown in a pit of poisinous  snakes ::)

I would disagree in this context, as I doubt reg actually believes in all that he writes. More a defender of doom, even when it's not necessary. Maybe he has Euphobia.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 21:00:07
I would disagree in this context, as I doubt reg actually believes in all that he writes. More a defender of doom, even when it's not necessary. Maybe he has Euphobia.

No one believes all they write....it is a form of answers and questions....many things i write a few moments later my views are totally different.

Everything in life dosn't have to add up...or be the truth....every good forum has people who give the alternative view.

But i grasp what you are getting at :)


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 21:05:01
To be fair, Reg has seen a lot of crap over the years, more than most of us, and we never seem to be very far from a crisis, even the glory years were steeped in mega fuck ups, we've never properly recovered from. Caution is good where we're concerned.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: dogs on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 21:10:30
To be fair, Reg has seen a lot of crap over the years, more than most of us, and we never seem to be very far from a crisis, even the glory years were steeped in mega fuck ups, we've never properly recovered from. Caution is good where we're concerned.

Indeed, but at least enjoy the moments when they do come round. Otherwise, what's the point?


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 21:22:36
After many years  of supporting I still have no answer to that!


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:15:02
Forum....even the Romans had men who would preach doom and negativity.

Because thats how they saw it....thats how Reg sees it and has the bollox to say it.

Gladly these days the preachers of facts and doom are more readily welcomed.....a lot better than being poisoned by claret or thrown in a pit of poisinous  snakes ::)

Cleopatra: I have a poisonous asp.
Mark Anthony: Oh, I wouldn't say that (whilst checking out her arse).


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:20:05
[url]http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm[/url

Season on season rise in recent attendances. Doubt many clubs in our league can say that


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:34:45

Season on season rise in recent attendances. Doubt many clubs in our league can say that

Think you were after this link: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/swit.htm (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/swit.htm)


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:39:57
Think you were after this link: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/swit.htm (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/swit.htm)

That site is a bitch to post links to - no justification for still using frames like that.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:47:25
That site is a bitch to post links to - no justification for still using frames like that.

Yes, I thought frames went out with smileys  :D


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:51:50
From the same site, this caught my eye (see attached)

I always think of town as a second tier club that has fallen on hard times but over the long term we're very much a third tier club.  I guess my incorrect impression of it has to do with when I was born/started following.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:54:51
From the same site, this caught my eye (see attached)

I always think of town as a second tier club that has fallen on hard times but over the long term we're very much a third tier club.  I guess my incorrect impression of it has to do with when I was born/started following.

I think some website worked out where teams had finished throughout their history and created a huge league table.  I think we were about 5th in League One.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 22:56:25
Our average this season is currently 8,546 if anyone is interested so on course for our best since 98/99 when we averaged 8,656.


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 23:03:04
From the same site, this caught my eye (see attached)

I always think of town as a second tier club that has fallen on hard times but over the long term we're very much a third tier club.  I guess my incorrect impression of it has to do with when I was born/started following.

same here, i remember relegation from the championship and thinking ever since then we have been trying to get at the very least where we belong. appears we are which is a bit depressing. impressed with the level of support we have been gaining through these 'tough times'


Title: Re: 4,600
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 00:52:13
I think some website worked out where teams had finished throughout their history and created a huge league table.  I think we were about 5th in League One.

A few years ago I chucked all our league positions since the modern four tier system came in (the scrapping of div 3 north and south or whatever it was), and our average position (both median and mean - we're very average) was about 5th in the third tier. I think it was also the position we'd finished in most times too. We're a bit predictable.