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Bodin may sue Swindon over Di Canio's treatment
           
           


  SWINDON Town youth team boss Paul Bodin is considering suing the club due to the way he was treated by former manager Paolo Di Canio.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10314911.Bodin_may_sue_Swindon_over_Di_Canio_s_treatment/?ref=rss
           
           
           

I think the real story can be found between the lines of this report

Bodin can fuck right off along with PDC if he decides to sue the club !

Off with stress ? Fuck me anyone would think he had a proper job rather than coaching a youths football team !!!

Strap on a set for fucks sake !

He stepped up to take what was the deciding penalty in the clubs second biggest game ever to win us promotion to the top division.

He certainly had a pair 20 years ago...

Indeed, and its hard to argue that di Canio didn't bully him and was allowed to get away with that by the board. A shit state of affairs, lets hope it can get resolved quickly.

Message for Bodin:

Diddums - you cunt

If only stress worked like that...

No idea whether Bodin is a cunt or not; no idea whether he will  actually follow up his threat.  This reads to me like someone saying 'Get lost di Canio, now you know what it feels like to be fucked over.  Whatever anyone else may be saying, you are not the only one who can say and do stupid things'.

Still think I was wrong?

I think someone has thrown their toys out their pram.

So who wanted Bodin as caretaker manager after a certain someone left?! Would he think about sueing the club then?!

and it doesn't work like that either. Its good to see attitudes still prevail regarding streess

Could it be that he did not either step forward and offer his services or turned it down if he was asked..... In his shoes i would have sought legal advice long before Di Canio left and kept my powder dry.

Hmm, strange one this.
I do find it odd that Paul feels so strongly about his treatment that he is thinking of suing the club.

Perhaps Di Canio's treatment of him affected him so badly. (we obviously know they didn't see eye to eye and Di Canio clearly didn't rate him)
Things like this do affect you mentally and can cause stress and lack of confidence/low self esteem. Maybe he feels this has affected his job and future prospects and as such was overlooked for the managers role when Paolo left?

I don't know, but I would like to hear Bodin's side of the story before I cast judgement on him.

I think this is one subject that we leave well alone,especially the insults.Man up and Pull yourself together along with Grow a pair belong in the the dark ages.None of us know how he's feeling and what he's had to put up with.If our club neglected it's duty of care towards an employee allowing him to be criticised in public,then we should'nt be surprised at a potential employment dispute.I hope Paul Bodin is soon feeling better

I'm dead against this whole litigious mentality that's swept over from the US in the last 20 years or so. That said though, I would say working for Di Canio is probably about as stressful as it gets. It was bad enough as a fan.

I'm pretty sure Paul Bodin doesn't actually want to sue the club. The mistreatment more than likely came from 1 main source, PDC and his merry men. STFC employed PDC, and thus become liable.

Put PDC in the stocks and let Paul throw rotten fruit at him in front of the club shop or something. I hope Paul recovers from the stress he is currently suffering from, I can't imagine it was easy for him working under old Mussolini face.

Didn't see this coming. Did you?

timing seems bizarre to me. He could have gone off whilst Di canio was in charge and would have had damn good reason to. Why he's off now and threatening legal action i dont know?
If you're all mystic meg then feel free to share it

Blimey. Regardless of their intentions this new board must be wondering what the hell they've let themselves in for.

I might sue the club next for all the defeats I've had to suffer over the years. Why not, everyone seems to want a piece at the moment.

FWIW i totally agree arriba. Think Zippy has much more of a case than Di Canio too.

FWIW I heard this a couple of months ago but that Bodins gripe was with Di Canio not the club.

How can he sue the club for something said and/or done by a manager and board that are no longer employed by the club or even have any ties with the new board/club?

You hear a lot of things after they've happened.

I discuss all these things with other people on the forum but do not post it, this can be verified by a lot of people on here.

I post nothing that I am told in private.

It does seem nonsensical - this is the explanation offered in the adver piece


Whatever your view of Jed & chums, it must be immensely frustrating (as it is to the fans) to have all this shit being dredged up from before they were here that they are then tasked with paying off or dealing with.

Yes the jury remains out on some transparency issues etc but fuck me they haven't exactly had the easiest start to life running a football club - and not by their own doing.

The shunning of Bodin by Di canio was well known from when he took over. It started from day 1.
Thought this was well known as i put it on here ages ago and others knew about it. Wasn't a secret. youth players tweets were seen etc. The general feeling on here and in general at the time was that Di canio was in charge so could do what he wanted. Fans didn't really care.

Bodin was humiliated at the pre season photo in 2011 when Di canio said he wasn't welcome in the squad and staff picture when he was waiting in his kit.

Now if he could take that and continue to work at the club for over a season and a half then i do not understand why he is taking the action he is supposed to be doing now. The board at the time would have known about the non relationship between the pair so the issue would have been for them to deal with.

My guess would be that KMAC has also deemed Bodin surplus to requirements seeing as KMAC has much more of an interest in the youth/reserve set up.

Verified on both counts.

I would be amazed if that were the case. KMAC doesn't seem to be the type to make snap judgements. He's only been here a few weeks. Does anyone know how long Zippy's been off?

Yarp, verified.

It's handy being able to keep one's trap shut, you get to hear all sorts of stuff that other people don't  ;)

Possible,infact think you are probably right as nothing else makes sense. Kmac has got youth lads involved in first team squads so could be that he just wants his own man in?
 Bodin may be pissed off about this and now wants to drag up the Di Canio past as a parting shot?

I think scoring the winning penalty at Wembley shows that PB has got pretty big balls thank you very much.

£75,000 is nothing considering the contribution he's made to STFC.  Also the fact he's prepared to sue the club should be an indicator as to how bad it was/is(?).

People involved in football love spilling info, slagging off others and the sounds of their own voices. Stuff people like JJ may keep quiet gets blabbed by others anyway and it gets out.
There is no such thing as secret information etc.

I never ever said anything I had was "secret information" just not for a public forum.

2 weeks.

Maybe they will just pay Bodin up with a golden handshake or something? Kmac can bring his own man in then. Am i right in thinking the only man he has brought in is his assistant Mark Hooper as Digby was a Jed appointment? Either way sometimes it best to start from a clean slate and i'm sure Kmac can do without skeletons from the past holding the club back. Bodin was a legend at STFC but maybe its best he retires and be remembered for that rather than being remembered for the man that sued the club over hurt feelings.

Most of it doesn't come out until it's released by the club and in the press. Certainly not on the forums anyway.

Except for Jason Roberts, of course.

This doesn't help explain the embargo and why it still hasn't been lifted, which is everyones main concern...

I believe the current popular theory is that there is no FL embargo but that the backers are unwilling to put in funds whilst the threat of litigation from multiple disgruntled employees is hanging in the air.

Ah, cheers.

Maybe its a gentle reminder to PDC that STFC could also counter his legal action with there own (or a 3rd party could ??)

You quoted a post i made a month ago to try to prove a point against me.  I never said you were wrong then or now.
The only thing that changed from the 27th feb is that i've gone from saying i would be surprised if it happend to now being surprised. Everything i said still stands.

Now if we're being pedantic then i didn't say you thought you had secret information. Your posts are clearly saying you keep stuff between certain others which points to it being secretive to a point though.

You hear stuff,i hear stuff,Fred bloggs hears stuff. Anything you, me or Fred knows will be out there known by others. There is no doubt about that at all

Fred blogs about stuff? Anybody have a link?

He keeps it to himself and close friends or via personal messages

OK.

To quote the glorious film Hot Fuzz:

"Don't be a twat now."

Disappointed to read some of the anti PB stuff.  Surprised the Adver went public with this information.

I think PB has an important role to play at STFC and the current board should do their utmost to welcome him back to the club and improve the working conditions for him and those around him.

As Nick Watkins said in a recent interview, PDC managed with a hand grenade. NW ended up with the responsibility of clearing up PDC's grenade attacks around the County Ground.

Would have had more sympathy and respect if he had done this whilst PdC was still at the club.

Whether he's doing it now to make it even harder for PdC to get another English club, I don't know.

This all points to an employee that appears to have breached the Obligation of Mutual Trust between the employer and employee through public criticism of the employer and alleged poor treatment of another senior employee.

This is what the ever reliable wikipedia has to say on the subject.

"This concept relates to a new but highly important concept in employment law, and constitutes a term that is implied into all employment contracts. The implied term means that both the employer and employee should behave in such a way as to not undermine the employment relationship.
 
Academics now talk of the duty of good faith in the employment relationship. (i.e. both parties should "look out" for each other)
 
It is such an important issue that this implied term can override (in certain circumstances) an express term of the employment contract"

If this is really the case and PB is considering suing the club then I cannot see how he can be welcomed bac kespecially id he goes through with his threat he would be looked on as the blokse that sued STFC and be tarred with that brush during his employment.

Is his contract not up the end of the season, I vaguely remember him threatening to leave to be Lingy's No 2 and the board offered him a contract as he had been working without one.

I think KMAC should be free to appoint his own staff throughout the club if he feels it is right to work with people he knows or knows their reputation

Ultimately the club as employer would have had a duty of care to the employee to ensure that he worked without duress and distress etc. Therefore if PB felt that they failed to adhere to this then potentially he does have a case, however....

Firstly I suppose that we don't know what happened behind the scenes, did he ever formally riase a concern and thus were the club formally aware of the problem and given chance to address as without this it seems odd to go straight to litigation.

Secondly, when was he given the Torquay chance, wasn't this after the appointment of PdC and the incidents mentioned above, again it obviously wasnt so bad if he happliy signed a contract and stayed.

The timing all seems very odd, waiting until PdC left and the board changed, at first glance it appears a little cowardly but to look at it a different way, and put the cat amongst the pigeons...

What if PB knows that the new board actually do have substantial money to settle a claim whilst those who left didn't......

 :D :D

I concur

I often fear giving manager's a free reign to appoint their own staff.  We have been damaged by this a few times at either end of the spectrum.

I.e Dave Byrne acting as Danny Wilson's assistant, didn't work very well.
I think a first team manager should have a say on their immediate staff, assistant, fitness coach, possible scouting network, there needs to be a limit on this.

However, Steve McMahon brought in his own staff and continued to remove other long established staff at STFC in favour of his mates.  

Again PDC pretty much did the same, when he resigned, we had no-one really available to act as a caretaker manager, (it would and should have been PB but due to his Industrial Dispute, this could not be facilitated).

But do we actually know that PB was/is (is he still actually here?) doing a good job, I don't buy into the whol 'we owe him as he was a legend as a player' argument, he should be judged on his own merits, I would also say that KMac has a good judge of what makes a good yoof coach.

My gripe is why this has only come about now. To me it seems like a snap decision because he knows a pay off is the only way to settle and prevent the embargo dragging on.

The only way PB can be judged is by the talent that comes through.  Currently the Thompson brothers?

You've been reading between the lines haven't you ;)

Not sure how PDC could get held accountable for this, provided everyone involved were employees the responsibility lies solely with the employer - preventing things like this from happening and then dealing with them when they do. Unfortunately I can well believe things like this would have been allowed to happen and glossed over.

Guess it could be  factor if PDC sues for constructive dismissal though.

If that is the case then McCrory's legal advice is as good as his spelling. That's a ridiculous tactic. It's the club's responsibility to act and discipline PDC. If they failed to act when he was employed, they'll not be able to bring that rabbit out of the hat now.

Fucking spot on, and so far not one of his youth players have managed to break into and stay in the first eleven.

Nathan Thompson signed pro forms when Byrne was Under 18 manager I believe? No one else has been a first team regular from the youth team in recent years from what I can remember.

Nope. Byrne moved to the first team at the end of November 2007, then was head of player development for the 09/10 season. Thompson signed his first pro contract at the end of the 08/09 season.

I guess Bodin could claim; both Thompsons, Oakley, Storey, Bedwell, Bodin, Waldon and Ferguson.

Was Bodin Under 18 manager at the time? For some reason I don't recall him being in that role for too long.

Yes.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/staffprofilebodin-293985.aspx

Bodin should have just said to Di Canio "get your international caps on the table"

Unfortunately 1 Italian cap is worth more than all the Welsh caps

Which di Canio still didn't get.  One Welsh cap is worth more than no caps for any country.

How many caps did Alex Ferguson win :hmmm:

By George.

Zippy is getting himself into a right Bungle with this one.....looking for the pot of gold at the end of the Rainbow.

WHOOOOOOOOOOO CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS?

End.

Paolo still seems pretty hacked off about it.

/endfo'real